Re: Pentax Mz5-n service manual?

[Alan Chan]

--- alkos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm thinking of making mine a black version ;) - but have no idea how to
> disarm all these dials and switches. 
> 
> Anybody has a service manual / ideas / experience?

Are you sure you want to do that? How are you going to print those tiny letters 
on
the dial?

=
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http://www.pbase.com/wlachan




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RE: 135mm lenses - quality ?

[Alan Chan]

--- Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The one I have is not a bad performer for an el cheapo, but I'm
> looking forward to significantly better performance with the new
> one. Now if I can find one of those 135/1.8 lenses ... ;-)

Good luck. The last A135/1.8 in not-so-good condition was sold at US$1k+ which 
was
way more expensive than what it worth imho. Maybe you should check out this: 
http://www.cameraquest.com/Voigt%20SL.htm#Voigtlander%20125/2.5%20APO-Lanthar
http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigt/v-lens/sl/125sl/index.html

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PAW PESO - Puppy in a Box

[Shel Belinkoff]

http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/pib.html

There's a bit of a back story to this little snap.  I'm sure you can find
it within the photo which was made with a 1937 Leica and collapsible 50mm
Elmar (f3.5) of the same vintage.

Shel 

Re: Cool Macro Photograph

[Jeff Tokayer]

Christian wrote:
- Original Message - 
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

 

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/peso/Amarylis.html
   

That's got to be the best "ultra-closeup-of-a-flower'" shot I've ever seen.
Well done, Bill.
Christian
 

Megapixel.net had this image as their photo of the month
http://www.megapixel.net/html/galleries/covers/images/ann-decamp.jpg
Jeff.

PESO--Untitled

[Peter J. Alling]

Still learning to use the *ist-D.  I'm experimenting with Flash
I wasn't planning to post this since it was taken to learn a bit about 
how the camera handles the AF280T but the image should be self 
explanatory.  This image does warrant a Cute alert.  Maybe a Dog alert.

http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PESO_--_untitled.html
Some technical information.
*ist-D 1/150th sec.  ISO 400
AF280T w/Lumaquest Promax Softbox  TTL
SMC-P 55mm f1.8 @ f11
The image was a bit dark but easily adjusted.
--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke

Re: PAW PESO - Puppy in a Box

[Gonz]

Ok, that is freaky, there must be a story behind that...
rg
Jerome Reyes wrote:
I'm confused... the photo that he his looking at...
isn't that this one from juan's gallery?
http://www.jbuhler.com/html/es00-0026.html
 - jerome

For Sale Friday ( slightly late)

[J. C. O'Connell]

FYI, 

Users and Collectors:

I meant to post this yesterday, better late than never.
I have a bunch of stuff to fit Pentax this week, mostly
K, some screw.

http://jcoconnell.com/JCO_AUCT.HTM


Later, 
JCO


Details:

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Constant Maximum Aperture Wide Zoom Range
   $79.99 
$99.99 
 -
 1d 23h 27m   
 
   Tokina AT-X 35-200mm F3.5-4.5 Zoom Lens K mount
Wide 5.7X Optical Zoom ! Hi Performance AT-X Series
   $59.99 
$79.99 
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 1d 23h 32m   
 
   Sigma 18mm F3.5 ULTRA WIDE ANGLE Lens Pentax K 
Pentax K and KA ( A ) compatible
   $139.99 
$159.99 
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   Vivitar MC 28-85mm F3.5-4.5 Zoom Lens Pentax K   $39.99 
$49.99 
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 1d 23h 42m   
 
   SMC Pentax 80-200mm F4.5 Zoom Lens K mount
Rare "K" series Pentax lens from late 70's
   $56.55 
 2 1d 23h 47m   
 
   Pentax Right Angle Finder Magnifier Refconverter - A 
Top of the Line Finder for Pentax 35mm SLR Cameras
   $81.00 
 2 1d 23h 57m   
 
   Pentax Model ME 35mm SLR Camera & SMC A 50mm F2 lens   $69.99 
$89.99 
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   Pentax SM Bellows, Focus Rail, 135mm Macro lens M42 
Quality Bellows, Rail, & Rodagon 135mm F5.6 MACRO Lens
   $199.99 
$249.99 
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   RMC Tokina 70-210mm F3.5 Zoom Telephoto Lens K mount
FAST & Constant F3.5 Maximum Aperture! Hi Performance
   $79.99 
$99.99 
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   SMC Pentax 18mm F3.5 Lens K mount RARE Wide Angle
Collectable Early "K" Series Lens - Awesome Performance
   $375.00 
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   RMC Tokina 70-210mm F3.5 Zoom Telephoto Lens K mount
FAST & Constant F3.5 Maximum Aperture! Hi Performance
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   J.C. O'Connell   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://jcoconnell.com 

Re: PESO: Cool Macro Photograph

[pnstenquist]

Very nice, Bill. I like the way you framed it. I'm guessing that lily didn't 
grow in Canada . How did you light it?
Paul


> Very nicely done.
> 
> William Robb wrote:
> 
> > http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/peso/Amarylis.html
> >
> > Tech data:
> > Bellows Takumar 100mm f/4 at f/16 mounted to the Bellows A.
> > Pentax istD, 200iso, 8 seconds, NR on.
> > I tweaked the RAW file very slightly, cropped the tiniest bit, applied 
> > a gentle unsharp mask, and resized it for the web.
> >
> > Note: Slightly largish download, 500x750x100kb.
> >
> > William Robb
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
> During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
> and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during 
> peacetime.
>   --P.J. O'Rourke
> 
> 

Re: PAW PESO - Puppy in a Box

[Jerome Reyes]

I'm confused... the photo that he his looking at...
isn't that this one from juan's gallery?

http://www.jbuhler.com/html/es00-0026.html

 - jerome

Re: PAW PESO - Puppy in a Box

[Shel Belinkoff]

Yes ... why are you confused, and about what are you confused?

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: Jerome Reyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
> I'm confused... the photo that he his looking at...
> isn't that this one from juan's gallery?
>
> http://www.jbuhler.com/html/es00-0026.html

Re: PESO baby deer... warning cuteness alert

[Peter J. Alling]

Actually Pre-Ford explorer, the more things change the more they stay 
the same.

William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley"
Subject: Re: PESO baby deer... warning cuteness alert

The reference to Firestone 500s is, we had a lot of failures of that 
tire over here (U.S.) and they ended up recalling and replacing them. 
A _huge_ expense for Firestone...but what could they do? Plenty of 
tread separatons, and accidents.

Ah, the Ford Explorer thing?
William Robb


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke

Re: PESO: Cool Macro Photograph

[Peter J. Alling]

Very nicely done.
William Robb wrote:
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/peso/Amarylis.html
Tech data:
Bellows Takumar 100mm f/4 at f/16 mounted to the Bellows A.
Pentax istD, 200iso, 8 seconds, NR on.
I tweaked the RAW file very slightly, cropped the tiniest bit, applied 
a gentle unsharp mask, and resized it for the web.

Note: Slightly largish download, 500x750x100kb.
William Robb


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke

Re: PESO baby deer... warning cuteness alert

[Peter J. Alling]

At about the same time that the Pinto was known for more or less 
spontaneous combustion, the Firestone 500 radial
tire had gained it's own reputation for, to use a bit of understatement, 
being just a bit sub optimal for safety.  They were
standard equipment on the sportier models of most US car manufactures.  
This was also at the time there seemed to be
a problem with steering column mounted automatic shifter on certain Ford 
products that could shift from neutral into
reverse while the car was idling.  (It was just lucky that the Pinto had 
a floor mounted shifter).

By the way that should have read ".. did you _live_ truly dangerously..."
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: "Peter J. Alling"
Subject: Re: PESO baby deer... warning cuteness alert

But did you truly dangerously, with four Firestone 500 radial tires 
on it.

C'est wha?
William Robb


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke

PAW PESO - Puppy in a Box

[Shel Belinkoff]

http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/pib.html

There's a bit of a back story to this little snap.  I'm sure you can find
it within the photo which was made with a 1937 Leica and collapsible 50mm
Elmar (f3.5) of the same vintage.


Shel 

Re: Fighting Spyware

[Graywolf]

It wasn't a secret, MS bragged about it. They claimed it would help them serve 
you better (with potatoes and gravy, I guess). But it continues, in XP there are 
about a hundred "services" running as default. Many of them can be turned off if 
you know what you are doing, if you don't turning off the wrong ones can lock up 
your computer.

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
---
Steve Sharpe wrote:
At 3:27 PM -0800 1/15/05, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Please be kind enough to elaborate.  I'm just a simple man from a small,
backwater fishing village and don't know of such things.

Back in the late '90s, I think, it was discovered that Internet Explorer 
was secretly recording the web sites that its users visited and then 
sending that information to Microsoft.

Don't have exact references but I definitely remember reading about it 
perhaps five or six years ago.

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Re: Decisions...Decisions...

[Dave Kennedy]

Two different bodies has always been a pain to me when using them to
avoid switching lenses, but I wonder how many amateurs would actually
own 2 dslrs?  I know it would take me quite a while to justify a
second digital body (it seems hard enough to get one).

That's 2 comments suggesting I sell the film. Wow. I would find that
difficult making the jump from film to digital "cold turkey". hmmm


On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:20:33 +1100, Leon Altoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:14:09 -0500, Dave Kennedy wrote:
> snip>
 
> Buy an istD, sell your film bodies save a bit more and buy another istD
> so you don't have to change lenses.  You will have 2 bodies which are
> identical and don't have different operating philosophies and film
> costs will be a thing of the past.  In 5 years time I don't expect to
> be able to project my slides any more as slide projectors get more
> expensive (to buy and repair) and data projectors get cheaper.
> 
> Leon
> 
> http://www.bluering.org.au
> http://www.bluering.org.au/leon
> 
>

Re: Best M42 body?

[Peter J. Alling]

No, nor will a Super Takumar work that way on a Spotmatic F either.  But 
at least you can use it to make
a photograph.

Jens Bladt wrote:
Will aperture stop down/open aperture metering work with a Super Takumar on
the K1000 + M42 adapter?
Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 15. januar 2005 22:02
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Best M42 body?
The Spotmatic F will give you open aperture meeting with Super Multi Coated
or SMC Takumar lenses. That's a big plus over a Spotmatic. It's tough as
nails and said to be almost identical to a K1000, save for the mount. The
only minus is that the meter is always on when the lens cap is off. However,
I never found that to be a problem, as I'm somewhat religious about keeping
a lens cap on my camera when I'm not shooting.
Paul
 

Is there a difference between the SpotF and the earlier Spotties, and the
   

F
 

and , for example, the K1000, KM, KX with standard screens?
Shel
   

[Original Message]
From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Date: 1/15/2005 10:52:38 AM
Subject: Re: Best M42 body?
I've used 'em all, from Fuji and Rich to Mamiya. The all-around best,
hands down, is the Spotmatic F.
On Jan 15, 2005, at 1:00 PM, Don Sanderson wrote:
 

A while back there was mention of some M42
mount bodies with superior viewfinders.
I believe Fujica and Ricoh were among them.
What M42 bodies have you found to be the
best as far as viewfinder/weight/features, etc?
TIA
Don
   

   



 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke

Re: PESO baby deer... warning cuteness alert

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Kenneth Waller"
Subject: Re: PESO baby deer... warning cuteness alert


The Firestone 500 thing preceeded the Explorer thing by around 25 
years. It
was Firestones first attempt at radial ply tires . and they 
were
disasters. They never wore out but they were always having belts 
slip,
sidewall issues etc.
Thanks for the clarification.
William Robb 

Re: Fighting Spyware

[Peter J. Alling]

As a software engineer, the definition we used was that a bug that 
didn't cause the system to crash was always a feature. Just a bit of irony.

Bob W wrote:
Hi,
Saturday, January 15, 2005, 8:32:24 PM, Peter wrote:
 

Spyware takes advantage of documented hooks into the  Browser and OS
that Microsoft designed in for
their own use, (for other's use as well, but I've always thought that
was an afterthought).  A virus usually takes
advantage of an undocumented feature, (usually known as a bug).  Spyware
by the way is not illegal while,
creating and releasing a virus or worm is, at least in US law. 
   

Right, I see what you mean. Well, every operating system contains
hooks of various types, as well un- (or not publically-) documented
features, as well as bugs, and can be hijacked, usually quite easily.
This is not unique to Microsoft. It has always been an essential part
of operating (and other) system design.
Worms and viruses and so on are like weeds. A weed is just plant in
the wrong place. All the techniques that go to making malware are
perfectly legitimate techniques, but in the wrong place.
Incidentally, I disagree with your definition of a bug. I would define
it as a discrepancy between the software and its specification, where
the specification matches the requirements.
 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke

Re: Fighting Spyware

[Graywolf]

In fact they called it a "feature" in Windows 2000 & ME.
The fact is that a lot of the problems with MS software started out as 
"features". The fewer "features"  you OS has the better. They should all be set 
as "off" by default, but they are set "on" so the "idiots" do not have to think. 
See my tag line.

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
---
Steve Sharpe wrote:
That is pretty ironic, since Microsoft was one of the original purveyors 
of spyware.

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Re: PESO: Cool Macro Photograph

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "alkos"
Subject: Re: PESO: Cool Macro Photograph


This is first macro for a few weeks that I find 
more-than-interesting.

Great composition.
Excellent work.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
William Robb 

Re: istD aperture control busted

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Amita Guha"
Subject: istD aperture control busted
.
I suppose this means the camera will be making a trip to Colorado, 
right? Is
there any way we can fix this ourselves, and have any of you seen 
this on
the istD before? Could it be related to cold weather? It was about 
30
degrees Farenheit today/
Probably send it in, though for kicks, put fresh batteries in it and 
try it again.
30ºF isn't cold.

William Robb 

Re: PESO: Cool Macro Photograph

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Jerome Reyes"
Subject: Re: PESO: Cool Macro Photograph


http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/peso/Amarylis.html
Impressive shot, and well worth the effort in my opinion. Nicely 
done.
  - Jerome

Thanks Jerome.
William Robb

Re: PESO: Cool Macro Photograph

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Don Sanderson"
Subject: RE: PESO: Cool Macro Photograph


That's very cool, the comp. and colors are great.
Thanks Don.
William Robb

Re: Cool Macro Photograph

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Christian"

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/peso/Amarylis.html
That's got to be the best "ultra-closeup-of-a-flower'" shot I've 
ever seen.
Well done, Bill.

You are far too kind.
Thank you.
William Robb 

Re: Best M42 body?

[Peter J. Alling]

The only minus is that the meter is always on when the lens cap is off.
Just like the K1000.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Spotmatic F will give you open aperture meeting with Super Multi Coated or 
SMC Takumar lenses. That's a big plus over a Spotmatic. It's tough as nails and 
said to be almost identical to a K1000, save for the mount. The only minus is 
that the meter is always on when the lens cap is off. However, I never found 
that to be a problem, as I'm somewhat religious about keeping a lens cap on my 
camera when I'm not shooting.
Paul
 

Is there a difference between the SpotF and the earlier Spotties, and the F
and , for example, the K1000, KM, KX with standard screens?  

Shel 

   

[Original Message]
From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Date: 1/15/2005 10:52:38 AM
Subject: Re: Best M42 body?
I've used 'em all, from Fuji and Rich to Mamiya. The all-around best, 
hands down, is the Spotmatic F.
On Jan 15, 2005, at 1:00 PM, Don Sanderson wrote:

 

A while back there was mention of some M42
mount bodies with superior viewfinders.
I believe Fujica and Ricoh were among them.
What M42 bodies have you found to be the
best as far as viewfinder/weight/features, etc?
TIA
Don
   

   


 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke

Re: istD aperture control busted

[Herb Chong]

i've shot in much colder weather. batteries are the main limiting factor.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 8:30 PM
Subject: istD aperture control busted


> I suppose this means the camera will be making a trip to Colorado, right?
Is
> there any way we can fix this ourselves, and have any of you seen this on
> the istD before? Could it be related to cold weather? It was about 30
> degrees Farenheit today/

Re: PESO baby deer... warning cuteness alert

[Kenneth Waller]

The Firestone 500 thing preceeded the Explorer thing by around 25 years. It
was Firestones first attempt at radial ply tires . and they were
disasters. They never wore out but they were always having belts slip,
sidewall issues etc.

Kenneth Waller
- Original Message -
From: "Keith Whaley" Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: PESO baby deer... warning cuteness alert


>
>
> William Robb wrote:
>
> >
> > - Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley"
> > Subject: Re: PESO baby deer... warning cuteness alert
> >
> >
> >
> >> The reference to Firestone 500s is, we had a lot of failures of that
> >> tire over here (U.S.) and they ended up recalling and replacing them.
> >> A _huge_ expense for Firestone...but what could they do? Plenty of
> >> tread separatons, and accidents.
> >
> >
> > Ah, the Ford Explorer thing?
>
> Oui!
>
> keith
>
> > William Robb
>

Re: istD aperture control busted

[pnstenquist]

I haven't experienced that on either of my *istD cameras, nor have I heard of 
it. I think you should send it to Colorado. If you start disassembling things, 
you could void your warranty.
Paul


> I took both my new lenses out for testing today, and I finally found out why
> I was having what I thought were metering problems over Christmas: it
> appears that the mechanism on the camera that controls the aperture gets
> stuck and won't close below around f/5.6. When I tried to do DOF preview,
> the aperture wouldn't close at all. We came home and Nate fiddled with the
> camera for a while. We thought he'd fixed it, but I only managed to squeeze
> off about 5 exposures before the problem reappeared. 
> 
> I suppose this means the camera will be making a trip to Colorado, right? Is
> there any way we can fix this ourselves, and have any of you seen this on
> the istD before? Could it be related to cold weather? It was about 30
> degrees Farenheit today/
> 
> Thanks,
> Amita
> 
> 

Re: UK PDML 2005

[ernreed2]

Quoting Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 
> 
> >>> > >> Magdalen College.
> >>> > >
> >>> > >Or even Magdalene College.  Pronounced the same, but spelled
> >differently.
> >>> >
> >>> > Ahh, but is it?
> >>> >
> >>> > In Oxford, it's Mawdlin !
> >>> 
> >>> My contribution: Milngavie.
> >
> >> I'll offer Trottiscliffe
> >
> >and I'll raise you Slaithwaite
> 
> Looks like I'm done. I'll be Foulden.
> 
> 


Now that you Britons have had your fun, how about letting the REST of us know 
the rest of the story.
(Just a reminder -- there were several more in the thread than were quoted 
above.)

Thanks.

ERNR
who thinks she knows how to pronounce "Thames" but otherwise is probably not 
linguistically equipped to visit the UK.

Re: PESO: Friday at a bar

[Jerome Reyes]

Juan,

I can't honestly say that this particular shot did a whole lot for me...
however (!) your email did at least give me the opportunity to peruse
through the rest of your photo galleries. In doing so, I found your photos
(the street photos in particular) quite impressive, and very inspiring in
fact. In short, I'm envious of your eye for good photos and compositions.
Good stuff.

You guys with natural talent for this photo stuff annoy me .

The "essay" on street photography was also a worthy quick read. Thanks
again for sharing.

 - jerome

Re: Cool Macro Photograph

[Christian]

- Original Message - 
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/peso/Amarylis.html
>

That's got to be the best "ultra-closeup-of-a-flower'" shot I've ever seen.
Well done, Bill.

Christian

istD aperture control busted

[Amita Guha]

I took both my new lenses out for testing today, and I finally found out why
I was having what I thought were metering problems over Christmas: it
appears that the mechanism on the camera that controls the aperture gets
stuck and won't close below around f/5.6. When I tried to do DOF preview,
the aperture wouldn't close at all. We came home and Nate fiddled with the
camera for a while. We thought he'd fixed it, but I only managed to squeeze
off about 5 exposures before the problem reappeared. 

I suppose this means the camera will be making a trip to Colorado, right? Is
there any way we can fix this ourselves, and have any of you seen this on
the istD before? Could it be related to cold weather? It was about 30
degrees Farenheit today/

Thanks,
Amita

RE: Best M42 body?

[pnstenquist]

Congratulations. Looks like a pretty camera.
Paul


> Well I took a quick lookie on eekBay and this was listed
> about 45 minutes ago:
> 
> http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/SPF.htm
> 
> The hot-shoe's missing but hopefully it's the same as
> the SPII, I have a parts SPII I can rob it from.
> Comes with 2 lenses which sound decent and the guy
> says he just used it 2 months ago for a photo class.
> Don't much care about the lenses, I have several nice
> ST's and SMCT's to mount on it. ;-)
> At $50.00 I couldn't pass it up.
> Wish me luck!
> And thanks for all the comments.
> 
> Don
> 
> OH, one last question: Do you suppose the cool Lizard
> Skin I've got for an SP will fit this one? 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 6:20 PM
> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Subject: RE: Best M42 body?
> >
> >
> > I've never owned the Singles, but I have looked through the
> > finder. It's hard to say without having all the cameras in front
> > of me, but I think the Spotmatic F is the brightest screwmount
> > finder I''ve ever used. I like the Fuji 801 as well, but it's
> > much harder to find a good one, and it may not be as durable.
> >
> >
> > > Hi Paul, thanks for commenting.
> > > I've always wanted to try the 'F', I'll have a look
> > > around and see what I can find.
> > > They seem a good bit scarcer than the SP and SPII.
> > > I have a Ricoh Singlex-TLS and like it but the finder
> > > is a bit too dim for me.
> > > Have you found the F's finder brighter than the Ricoh?
> > > (if you've tried the Singlex TLS, that is.)
> > >
> > > Don
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 12:51 PM
> > > > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > > > Subject: Re: Best M42 body?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I've used 'em all, from Fuji and Rich to Mamiya. The all-around best,
> > > > hands down, is the Spotmatic F.
> > > > On Jan 15, 2005, at 1:00 PM, Don Sanderson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > A while back there was mention of some M42
> > > > > mount bodies with superior viewfinders.
> > > > > I believe Fujica and Ricoh were among them.
> > > > > What M42 bodies have you found to be the
> > > > > best as far as viewfinder/weight/features, etc?
> > > > >
> > > > > TIA
> > > > > Don
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 

RE: Best M42 body?

[Don Sanderson]

Well I took a quick lookie on eekBay and this was listed
about 45 minutes ago:

http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/SPF.htm

The hot-shoe's missing but hopefully it's the same as
the SPII, I have a parts SPII I can rob it from.
Comes with 2 lenses which sound decent and the guy
says he just used it 2 months ago for a photo class.
Don't much care about the lenses, I have several nice
ST's and SMCT's to mount on it. ;-)
At $50.00 I couldn't pass it up.
Wish me luck!
And thanks for all the comments.

Don

OH, one last question: Do you suppose the cool Lizard
Skin I've got for an SP will fit this one? 


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 6:20 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: RE: Best M42 body?
>
>
> I've never owned the Singles, but I have looked through the
> finder. It's hard to say without having all the cameras in front
> of me, but I think the Spotmatic F is the brightest screwmount
> finder I''ve ever used. I like the Fuji 801 as well, but it's
> much harder to find a good one, and it may not be as durable.
>
>
> > Hi Paul, thanks for commenting.
> > I've always wanted to try the 'F', I'll have a look
> > around and see what I can find.
> > They seem a good bit scarcer than the SP and SPII.
> > I have a Ricoh Singlex-TLS and like it but the finder
> > is a bit too dim for me.
> > Have you found the F's finder brighter than the Ricoh?
> > (if you've tried the Singlex TLS, that is.)
> >
> > Don
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 12:51 PM
> > > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > > Subject: Re: Best M42 body?
> > >
> > >
> > > I've used 'em all, from Fuji and Rich to Mamiya. The all-around best,
> > > hands down, is the Spotmatic F.
> > > On Jan 15, 2005, at 1:00 PM, Don Sanderson wrote:
> > >
> > > > A while back there was mention of some M42
> > > > mount bodies with superior viewfinders.
> > > > I believe Fujica and Ricoh were among them.
> > > > What M42 bodies have you found to be the
> > > > best as far as viewfinder/weight/features, etc?
> > > >
> > > > TIA
> > > > Don
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: PESO: Friday at a bar

[Juan Buhler]

Thanks Shel for looking, in any case.

j

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:59:11 -0800, Shel Belinkoff
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I went back and looked at this a couple of times.  We're just going to have
> to disagree.  For the most part, everything you like about the photo is
> something I dislike.
> 
> Shel
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > On 15/1/05, Shel Belinkoff
> >
> > 
> >
> > >OK, since I find this to be very much less than a good shot, would you
> (or
> > >anyone) be kind enough to explain what makes it good and why you like
> it.
> > >I'd like to keep an open mind on this.
> > >
> >
> > Sure. I like the placement of all the subjects, people, bar, walls,
> > shapes etc. I like the colours, some slightly odd hues etc. I like the
> > expression on the main subject's face - looking for a friend / bartender
> > / whatever, the hands clasped with appropriate blur. I like the slightly
> > tilted angle. It all adds up to a good shot - although in a way it's too
> > good - hence it could easily be used by a stock house. If I had half a
> > dozen extras, lighting kit, a whole bar, and an hour, I could maybe come
> > up with a similar shot (and a few dozen others). It would sit nicely in a
> > picture library, and be used for a feature on credit card fraud in the
> > business pages of a Sunday paper.
> >
> > Instead, Juan popped it off in a few seconds. He da man!
> 
> 


-- 
Juan Buhler
http://www.jbuhler.com
blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog

Re: PESO: Cool Macro Photograph

[Jerome Reyes]

> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/peso/Amarylis.html

Impressive shot, and well worth the effort in my opinion. Nicely done.
   - Jerome

Re: Fighting Spyware

[Steve Sharpe]

At 12:51 AM +0100 1/16/05, Jostein wrote:
From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Please be kind enough to elaborate.  I'm just a simple man from a small,
backwater fishing village and don't know of such things.
Shel
I don't know about original, but several incarnations of Internet 
Explorer has contained a small, poorly documented "feature"; each 
time you use IE to look for "Related" links, a bit of info about 
your browsing activities is sent out to microsoft and a corporation 
called Alexa. Look at this link for more info:

http://www.imilly.com/alexa.htm
Jostein
Here's a few other links found after a few minutes on google:
http://aroundcny.com/technofile/texts/bit083000.html
http://www.pcplus.co.uk/news/default.asp?pagetypeid=2&articleid=5567&subsectionid=360
--
Steve
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
•

RE: Best M42 body?

[pnstenquist]

I've never owned the Singles, but I have looked through the finder. It's hard 
to say without having all the cameras in front of me, but I think the Spotmatic 
F is the brightest screwmount finder I''ve ever used. I like the Fuji 801 as 
well, but it's much harder to find a good one, and it may not be as durable. 


> Hi Paul, thanks for commenting.
> I've always wanted to try the 'F', I'll have a look
> around and see what I can find.
> They seem a good bit scarcer than the SP and SPII.
> I have a Ricoh Singlex-TLS and like it but the finder
> is a bit too dim for me.
> Have you found the F's finder brighter than the Ricoh?
> (if you've tried the Singlex TLS, that is.)
> 
> Don
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 12:51 PM
> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Subject: Re: Best M42 body?
> > 
> > 
> > I've used 'em all, from Fuji and Rich to Mamiya. The all-around best, 
> > hands down, is the Spotmatic F.
> > On Jan 15, 2005, at 1:00 PM, Don Sanderson wrote:
> > 
> > > A while back there was mention of some M42
> > > mount bodies with superior viewfinders.
> > > I believe Fujica and Ricoh were among them.
> > > What M42 bodies have you found to be the
> > > best as far as viewfinder/weight/features, etc?
> > >
> > > TIA
> > > Don
> > >
> > 
> 

Re: PESO: Friday at a bar

[pnstenquist]

I like the lighting and the range of gentle colors. I like the expression on 
the woman's face.  I like the second woman just peeking in from the left. It's 
a moment in time in an interesting place. When I opened it, I found that I was 
interested enough to study it for a minute or two. To me, that means it's a 
good photo. But it's all very subjective.
Paul


> Wow, thanks Cotty!
> 
> Shel: I only posted it to my blog and here because I liked the colors
> of the light and the girl. Technically, the focus could be about 15cm
> farther, and maybe the girl behind the main subject could be more to
> the right. But that's the way it was, and obviously I liked it enough.
> 
> Anyway--no need to try to like it!  If we all liked the same photos
> the world would be even more boring than it already is :-)
> 
> j
> 
> 
> On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:42:31 +, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 15/1/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >OK, since I find this to be very much less than a good shot, would you (or
> > >anyone) be kind enough to explain what makes it good and why you like it.
> > >I'd like to keep an open mind on this.
> > >
> > 
> > Sure. I like the placement of all the subjects, people, bar, walls,
> > shapes etc. I like the colours, some slightly odd hues etc. I like the
> > expression on the main subject's face - looking for a friend / bartender
> > / whatever, the hands clasped with appropriate blur. I like the slightly
> > tilted angle. It all adds up to a good shot - although in a way it's too
> > good - hence it could easily be used by a stock house. If I had half a
> > dozen extras, lighting kit, a whole bar, and an hour, I could maybe come
> > up with a similar shot (and a few dozen others). It would sit nicely in a
> > picture library, and be used for a feature on credit card fraud in the
> > business pages of a Sunday paper.
> > 
> > Instead, Juan popped it off in a few seconds. He da man!
> > 
> > 
> > Cheers,
> >   Cotty
> > 
> > ___/\__
> > ||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
> > ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
> > _
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Juan Buhler
> http://www.jbuhler.com
> blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog
> 

Re: PESO baby deer... warning cuteness alert

[Keith Whaley]

William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley"
Subject: Re: PESO baby deer... warning cuteness alert

The reference to Firestone 500s is, we had a lot of failures of that 
tire over here (U.S.) and they ended up recalling and replacing them. 
A _huge_ expense for Firestone...but what could they do? Plenty of 
tread separatons, and accidents.

Ah, the Ford Explorer thing?
Oui!
keith
William Robb

Re: PESO (heck, maybe PAW?): "Compact Cars"

[Keith Whaley]

Cotty wrote:
On 15/1/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:

I assume Vogue SE is the model, but Tdi?

Vogue Special Equipment and Shel was right, Turbo Diesel Injection
FYI, it originally had air suspension, but has been retro-fitted with
coils, which is the sole reason I bought it.
Mucch, much better, in mmho.
Thanks Keith. It is immaculate underneath. Considering our climate,
that's no easy task!
Oooo! I'd really kinda like to have one of those myself!
I'd trade my Maser Quardaporte for one. If I had one. Maybe... ;^)
keith
Cheers,
  Cotty

Re: PESO: Friday at a bar

[Shel Belinkoff]

I went back and looked at this a couple of times.  We're just going to have
to disagree.  For the most part, everything you like about the photo is
something I dislike. 

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> On 15/1/05, Shel Belinkoff
>
> 
>
> >OK, since I find this to be very much less than a good shot, would you
(or
> >anyone) be kind enough to explain what makes it good and why you like
it. 
> >I'd like to keep an open mind on this.
> >
>
> Sure. I like the placement of all the subjects, people, bar, walls,
> shapes etc. I like the colours, some slightly odd hues etc. I like the
> expression on the main subject's face - looking for a friend / bartender
> / whatever, the hands clasped with appropriate blur. I like the slightly
> tilted angle. It all adds up to a good shot - although in a way it's too
> good - hence it could easily be used by a stock house. If I had half a
> dozen extras, lighting kit, a whole bar, and an hour, I could maybe come
> up with a similar shot (and a few dozen others). It would sit nicely in a
> picture library, and be used for a feature on credit card fraud in the
> business pages of a Sunday paper.
>
> Instead, Juan popped it off in a few seconds. He da man!

Re: PESO: Friday at a bar

[Juan Buhler]

Wow, thanks Cotty!

Shel: I only posted it to my blog and here because I liked the colors
of the light and the girl. Technically, the focus could be about 15cm
farther, and maybe the girl behind the main subject could be more to
the right. But that's the way it was, and obviously I liked it enough.

Anyway--no need to try to like it!  If we all liked the same photos
the world would be even more boring than it already is :-)

j


On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:42:31 +, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 15/1/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> 
> 
> >OK, since I find this to be very much less than a good shot, would you (or
> >anyone) be kind enough to explain what makes it good and why you like it.
> >I'd like to keep an open mind on this.
> >
> 
> Sure. I like the placement of all the subjects, people, bar, walls,
> shapes etc. I like the colours, some slightly odd hues etc. I like the
> expression on the main subject's face - looking for a friend / bartender
> / whatever, the hands clasped with appropriate blur. I like the slightly
> tilted angle. It all adds up to a good shot - although in a way it's too
> good - hence it could easily be used by a stock house. If I had half a
> dozen extras, lighting kit, a whole bar, and an hour, I could maybe come
> up with a similar shot (and a few dozen others). It would sit nicely in a
> picture library, and be used for a feature on credit card fraud in the
> business pages of a Sunday paper.
> 
> Instead, Juan popped it off in a few seconds. He da man!
> 
> 
> Cheers,
>   Cotty
> 
> ___/\__
> ||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
> ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
> _
> 
> 


-- 
Juan Buhler
http://www.jbuhler.com
blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog

RE: PESO: Friday at a bar

[Don Sanderson]

I agree with Cotty, looks like a shot with a specific
theme or message in mind.
She looks nervous or apprehensive by the expression
and restless fingers.
Kind of a "Life's worries too much?" sorta thing.
Very nice capture, I like it a lot.

Don

> -Original Message-
> From: Juan Buhler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 2:40 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: PESO: Friday at a bar
> 
> 
> The beauty of digital--sometimes things work better in color:
> 
> http://www.jbuhler.com/blog/archives/0166.html
> 
> ist D, FA35/2, ISO3200, 1/20 at f2
> 
> BTW, I'm hosting some of my blog images at flickr. There's a way to
> get a direct link to a picture in flickr (which is blessed by them,
> not a hack), so you guys don't have to go through the whole java
> interface they have.
> 
> To do this with your flickr pics, just go to "all resolutions" from
> the image page. You'll get a direct link to the picture there.
> 
> j
> 
> -- 
> Juan Buhler
> http://www.jbuhler.com
> blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog
> 

Re: *istD AF performance (was Re: Sigma 2.8 Zoom lens comments)

[Herb Chong]

tracking and locking are the same thing in most manufacturer's literature.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 6:43 PM
Subject: RE: *istD AF performance (was Re: Sigma 2.8 Zoom lens comments)


> About locking onto something: To me this means focusing on a subject, then
> stay focused at the same subject, even if it moves. No camera that I know
of
> does this. Not even the Canon D1. Cameras loose focus when things move,
but
> may refocus at the same subject after a while. Or it may focus on
something
> else! That's not locking onto a subject, is it? Tracking perhaps, but
> certainly not locking.

Re: Fighting Spyware

[Jostein]

From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Please be kind enough to elaborate.  I'm just a simple man from a 
small,
backwater fishing village and don't know of such things.

Shel
I don't know about original, but several incarnations of Internet 
Explorer has contained a small, poorly documented "feature"; each time 
you use IE to look for "Related" links, a bit of info about your 
browsing activities is sent out to microsoft and a corporation called 
Alexa. Look at this link for more info:

http://www.imilly.com/alexa.htm
Jostein

[Original Message] From: Steve Sharpe

>http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx
That is pretty ironic, since Microsoft was one of the original
purveyors of spyware.

Re: Fighting Spyware

[Steve Sharpe]

At 3:27 PM -0800 1/15/05, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Please be kind enough to elaborate.  I'm just a simple man from a small,
backwater fishing village and don't know of such things.
Back in the late '90s, I think, it was discovered that Internet 
Explorer was secretly recording the web sites that its users visited 
and then sending that information to Microsoft.

Don't have exact references but I definitely remember reading about 
it perhaps five or six years ago.
--

Steve
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
•

RE: PESO: Cool Macro Photograph

[Don Sanderson]

That's very cool, the comp. and colors are great.
Nice one!

Don

> -Original Message-
> From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 5:26 PM
> To: Pentax Discuss
> Subject: PESO: Cool Macro Photograph
> 
> 
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/peso/Amarylis.html
> 
> Tech data:
> Bellows Takumar 100mm f/4 at f/16 mounted to the Bellows A.
> Pentax istD, 200iso, 8 seconds, NR on.
> I tweaked the RAW file very slightly, cropped the tiniest bit, 
> applied a gentle unsharp mask, and resized it for the web.
> 
> Note: Slightly largish download, 500x750x100kb.
> 
> William Robb
> 
> 

RE: Best M42 body?

[Don Sanderson]

Hi Paul, thanks for commenting.
I've always wanted to try the 'F', I'll have a look
around and see what I can find.
They seem a good bit scarcer than the SP and SPII.
I have a Ricoh Singlex-TLS and like it but the finder
is a bit too dim for me.
Have you found the F's finder brighter than the Ricoh?
(if you've tried the Singlex TLS, that is.)

Don

> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 12:51 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: Best M42 body?
> 
> 
> I've used 'em all, from Fuji and Rich to Mamiya. The all-around best, 
> hands down, is the Spotmatic F.
> On Jan 15, 2005, at 1:00 PM, Don Sanderson wrote:
> 
> > A while back there was mention of some M42
> > mount bodies with superior viewfinders.
> > I believe Fujica and Ricoh were among them.
> > What M42 bodies have you found to be the
> > best as far as viewfinder/weight/features, etc?
> >
> > TIA
> > Don
> >
> 

RE: *istD AF performance (was Re: Sigma 2.8 Zoom lens comments)

[Jens Bladt]

I handled one of the very first five Canon D1's, when they first came to
Europe (2001?) at a Canon presentation in Cork, Ireland. It had 45 focus
points. The viewfinder was totally covered with focus points - they lit up
like the neon lights of Las Vegas, when the camera was moved. The focus
changed as fast as I could move the camera. And it took 4-8 frames every
time I pressed the shutter (8 fps). It sounded like a freaking Uzi! Now,
that's fast AF. Pentax never made anything close to that. Comparing this
Canon to the *ist D is like comparing a Saab 9-3 to a Lamborghini Gallardo.
Saab still make very nice cars, even though they are perhaps not the state
of the art. The same goes for the Pentax *ist D, I suppose.

About locking onto something: To me this means focusing on a subject, then
stay focused at the same subject, even if it moves. No camera that I know of
does this. Not even the Canon D1. Cameras loose focus when things move, but
may refocus at the same subject after a while. Or it may focus on something
else! That's not locking onto a subject, is it? Tracking perhaps, but
certainly not locking.

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 16. januar 2005 00:04
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: *istD AF performance (was Re: Sigma 2.8 Zoom lens comments)


the Nikon and Canon cameras can track an object wandering across the FOV
once it has acquired focus once, you don't even have to keep it on the same
sensor. that's part of the reason the Canon 1Ds Mk2 has so many sensors.

Herb...
- Original Message -
From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: *istD AF performance (was Re: Sigma 2.8 Zoom lens comments)


> But _as Jens said_ it is not the same as locking on in weaponry, which
> is an "active" system compared to autofocus.  Not the correct
> terminology, I know, but is the best descriptor I can use.
>
> IAC, I suspect we agree that a system where the photographer decides
> what is to be focused on is best.  If we cannot have a system that will
>   work to maintain focus (no matter where the focus point goes
> afterwards) once the "lock" is enabled, then present systems are the
> best we can hope for.

Re: PESO: Friday at a bar

[Cotty]

On 15/1/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:



>OK, since I find this to be very much less than a good shot, would you (or
>anyone) be kind enough to explain what makes it good and why you like it. 
>I'd like to keep an open mind on this.
>

Sure. I like the placement of all the subjects, people, bar, walls,
shapes etc. I like the colours, some slightly odd hues etc. I like the
expression on the main subject's face - looking for a friend / bartender
/ whatever, the hands clasped with appropriate blur. I like the slightly
tilted angle. It all adds up to a good shot - although in a way it's too
good - hence it could easily be used by a stock house. If I had half a
dozen extras, lighting kit, a whole bar, and an hour, I could maybe come
up with a similar shot (and a few dozen others). It would sit nicely in a
picture library, and be used for a feature on credit card fraud in the
business pages of a Sunday paper.

Instead, Juan popped it off in a few seconds. He da man!





Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_

Re: PESO: Cool Macro Photograph

[alkos]

William Robb, at T=2325.33 :
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/peso/Amarylis.html

In general, I don't like macro photography. There are microscopes for such
things.

This is first macro for a few weeks that I find more-than-interesting.

Great composition.

Excellent work.




cheers
-- 
alkos at tlen pl
http://onephoto.net/portfolio.php3?id_autora=17765

shadow details is pervert's concept

Re: PESO (heck, maybe PAW?): "Compact Cars"

[Cotty]

On 15/1/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:

>> I assume Vogue SE is the model, but Tdi?

Vogue Special Equipment and Shel was right, Turbo Diesel Injection

FYI, it originally had air suspension, but has been retro-fitted with
coils, which is the sole reason I bought it.

Thanks Keith. It is immaculate underneath. Considering our climate,
that's no easy task!




Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_

Re: PESO baby deer... warning cuteness alert

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Keith Whaley"
Subject: Re: PESO baby deer... warning cuteness alert


The reference to Firestone 500s is, we had a lot of failures of 
that tire over here (U.S.) and they ended up recalling and 
replacing them. A _huge_ expense for Firestone...but what could 
they do? Plenty of tread separatons, and accidents.
Ah, the Ford Explorer thing?
William Robb 

Re: Fighting Spyware

[Shel Belinkoff]

Please be kind enough to elaborate.  I'm just a simple man from a small,
backwater fishing village and don't know of such things.

Shel 


> [Original Message] From: Steve Sharpe 


> >http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx
>
> That is pretty ironic, since Microsoft was one of the original 
> purveyors of spyware.

Re: UK PDML 2005

[Cotty]

>>> > >> Magdalen College.
>>> > >
>>> > >Or even Magdalene College.  Pronounced the same, but spelled
>differently.
>>> >
>>> > Ahh, but is it?
>>> >
>>> > In Oxford, it's Mawdlin !
>>> 
>>> My contribution: Milngavie.
>
>> I'll offer Trottiscliffe
>
>and I'll raise you Slaithwaite

Looks like I'm done. I'll be Foulden.






Cheers,
  Cotty


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PESO: Cool Macro Photograph

[William Robb]

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/peso/Amarylis.html
Tech data:
Bellows Takumar 100mm f/4 at f/16 mounted to the Bellows A.
Pentax istD, 200iso, 8 seconds, NR on.
I tweaked the RAW file very slightly, cropped the tiniest bit, 
applied a gentle unsharp mask, and resized it for the web.

Note: Slightly largish download, 500x750x100kb.
William Robb

Re: Decisions...Decisions...

[Leon Altoff]

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:14:09 -0500, Dave Kennedy wrote:

>
>
>Ok, I've got a bit of a dillema here, what would you do? 
>Between Christmas gifts and personal savings, I've got about $1K cdn
>itching to get back into circulation.
>
>What do I do with it? 
>Currently I have: 
>PZ-1, MZ-10 bodies.
>28-70/4 FA
>70-210/4.5-5.6 F-SMC
>50/1.7F
>28-200 FA
>105/2.8 Kiron Macro
>400/5.6 Sigma APO
>1.7x AF Teleconvertor
>Manfrotto Tripod. 
>
>5) Forget gear, buy more film. 

Forget film and buy more gear.  When you get the istD you won't use
film any more.

Buy an istD, sell your film bodies save a bit more and buy another istD
so you don't have to change lenses.  You will have 2 bodies which are
identical and don't have different operating philosophies and film
costs will be a thing of the past.  In 5 years time I don't expect to
be able to project my slides any more as slide projectors get more
expensive (to buy and repair) and data projectors get cheaper.


 Leon

http://www.bluering.org.au
http://www.bluering.org.au/leon

Re: PESO (heck, maybe PAW?): "Compact Cars"

[Bob W]

Hi,

Saturday, January 15, 2005, 10:18:52 PM, Keith wrote:

> Splendid condition for 10 years old, I must say!
> Now, you must decipher "Tdi and Vogue SE..." for us.
> I assume Vogue SE is the model, but Tdi?

Vogue means it's for brainless models and fashionistas. Tdi means they
think it's to die for!



-- 
Cheers,
 Bob

Re: PESO (heck, maybe PAW?): "Compact Cars"

[Shel Belinkoff]

Turbo Diesel Injected

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: Keith Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
> Splendid condition for 10 years old, I must say!
> Now, you must decipher "Tdi and Vogue SE..." for us.
> I assume Vogue SE is the model, but Tdi?

Re: Fighting Spyware

[Bob W]

Hi,

> IMHO, that definition is meaningless to end users and of very little
> practical use when building commercial software. Instead, it can be used as
> an opportunity for developers and QA teams to dodge responsibility for using
> their brains during design and testing.

it's not a definition that's intended for end users, who tend to say
"it doesn't work". It's a useful definition for developers because it
tells us what to fix:

- operator error: rtfm
- documentation does not match the code: fix the documentation
- code does not match the spec: fix the code
- spec does not match the requirements: fix the spec
- new or changed requirements: fix the requirements

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob

Re: PESO: Friday at a bar

[Shel Belinkoff]

OK, since I find this to be very much less than a good shot, would you (or
anyone) be kind enough to explain what makes it good and why you like it. 
I'd like to keep an open mind on this.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> >http://www.jbuhler.com/blog/archives/0166.html
>
> If I didn't know any better I'd say this was a set up for a stock shot. I
> mean this in a complimentary way. Good shot!

Re: *istD AF performance (was Re: Sigma 2.8 Zoom lens comments)

[Herb Chong]

the Nikon and Canon cameras can track an object wandering across the FOV
once it has acquired focus once, you don't even have to keep it on the same
sensor. that's part of the reason the Canon 1Ds Mk2 has so many sensors.

Herb...
- Original Message - 
From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: *istD AF performance (was Re: Sigma 2.8 Zoom lens comments)


> But _as Jens said_ it is not the same as locking on in weaponry, which
> is an "active" system compared to autofocus.  Not the correct
> terminology, I know, but is the best descriptor I can use.
>
> IAC, I suspect we agree that a system where the photographer decides
> what is to be focused on is best.  If we cannot have a system that will
>   work to maintain focus (no matter where the focus point goes
> afterwards) once the "lock" is enabled, then present systems are the
> best we can hope for.

Re: Fighting Spyware

[Steve Sharpe]

At 8:37 PM -0800 1/14/05, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Over on the Adobe forum a few people had some good things to say about the
new Microsoft anti-spyware program now in Beta release.  I have not played
with the program yet and can't make any recommendations.  I was thinking
the gang here should be aware of it and everyone should make their own
decisions.  If anyone's had experience with the program, this might be the
time to voice your comments.  Here's the site where you can DL the program
for free:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx
That is pretty ironic, since Microsoft was one of the original 
purveyors of spyware.
--
Steve
•

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: UK PDML 2005

[Bob W]

Hi,

>> > >> Magdalen College.
>> > >
>> > >Or even Magdalene College.  Pronounced the same, but spelled differently.
>> >
>> > Ahh, but is it?
>> >
>> > In Oxford, it's Mawdlin !
>> 
>> My contribution: Milngavie.

> I'll offer Trottiscliffe

and I'll raise you Slaithwaite

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob

RE: Best M42 body?

[J. C. O'Connell]

I prefer the non_F finders even though they are a tad less
bright. They make up for it in contrast so they are just
as easy to focus as the "F" due to the better contrast
To each his own.  There is one thing I like about the "F"
though, the meter switch doesn't have any effect on the mirror
so if it gets dirty it doesn't cause a problem like the
earlier bodies do...
JCO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 5:40 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: RE: Best M42 body?


I prefer my Spotmatic F viewfinder to that of my Spotmatic. It's
noticeably brighter. Paul


> The other minus is the viewfinder in the SP and SPII and SL are all 
> superior to the SPF. For some reason they changed the design and there

> are more reflections bouncing around in the SPF finder than all the 
> earlier spots JCO
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 4:13 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: Best M42 body?
> 
> 
> Ahh ... so it's not the viewfinder but the spot's need to be stopped 
> down in order to meter that's the issue.  OK, fair enuf.
> 
> Shel
> 
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > The Spotmatic F will give you open aperture meeting with Super Multi

> > Coated or SMC Takumar lenses. That's a big plus over a Spotmatic. 
> > It's tough as nails and said to be almost identical to a K1000, save

> > for the mount. The only minus is that the meter is always on when 
> > the lens cap is off.
> 

Re: PESO: Friday at a bar

[Cotty]

On 15/1/05, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed:

>The beauty of digital--sometimes things work better in color:
>
>http://www.jbuhler.com/blog/archives/0166.html

If I didn't know any better I'd say this was a set up for a stock shot. I
mean this in a complimentary way. Good shot!




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Best M42 body?

[D. Glenn Arthur Jr.]

Don Sanderson asked:
> A while back there was mention of some M42
> mount bodies with superior viewfinders.
> I believe Fujica and Ricoh were among them.
> What M42 bodies have you found to be the
> best as far as viewfinder/weight/features, etc?

I remain partial to the Pentax S3 (aka H3) for how it fits
my hands (it's not the lightest, but it's a very _comfortable_
weight for me), how I like the viewfinder, and how it feels to 
operate.  But I can't say it wins on "features" ...

It's got speeds from 1 - 1/1000 + B, but it's also got a T
setting, which I find handy once in a while.  It has both
X and FP flash sockets.  It doesn't have DOF preview, but
it doesn't need it because that feature is already one the 
lenses (just thumb the "manual/auto" switch over the manual
to check DOF).  It does have automatic diaphragm (which 
most people would probably forget to list as a feature).
What it lacks are a flash shoe (cold shoe available as a
clip-on) and a meter (also available as a clip-on, IIRC).

*cough* I'm sure that an H3 being my first Pentax hasn't 
the slightest thing to do with my liking it so much. *cough*
(But really, it's a _sweet_ little camera.)

-- Glenn

RE: Best M42 body?

[pnstenquist]

I prefer my Spotmatic F viewfinder to that of my Spotmatic. It's noticeably 
brighter.
Paul


> The other minus is the viewfinder in the SP and SPII and SL
> are all superior to the SPF. For some reason they changed the
> design and there are more reflections bouncing around in
> the SPF finder than all the earlier spots
> JCO
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 4:13 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: Best M42 body?
> 
> 
> Ahh ... so it's not the viewfinder but the spot's need to be stopped
> down in order to meter that's the issue.  OK, fair enuf.
> 
> Shel 
> 
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > The Spotmatic F will give you open aperture meeting with
> > Super Multi Coated or SMC Takumar lenses. That's a big 
> > plus over a Spotmatic. It's tough as nails and said to be almost 
> > identical to a K1000, save for the mount. The only minus is 
> > that the meter is always on when the lens cap is off.
> 

RE: Best M42 body?

[J. C. O'Connell]

The other minus is the viewfinder in the SP and SPII and SL
are all superior to the SPF. For some reason they changed the
design and there are more reflections bouncing around in
the SPF finder than all the earlier spots
JCO

-Original Message-
From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 4:13 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Best M42 body?


Ahh ... so it's not the viewfinder but the spot's need to be stopped
down in order to meter that's the issue.  OK, fair enuf.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> The Spotmatic F will give you open aperture meeting with
> Super Multi Coated or SMC Takumar lenses. That's a big 
> plus over a Spotmatic. It's tough as nails and said to be almost 
> identical to a K1000, save for the mount. The only minus is 
> that the meter is always on when the lens cap is off.

Re: PESO baby deer... warning cuteness alert

[Keith Whaley]

William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: "Peter J. Alling"
Subject: Re: PESO baby deer... warning cuteness alert

But did you truly dangerously, with four Firestone 500 radial tires on 
it.

C'est wha?
William Robb
Okay...
Insert "live" after 'truly.'
The reference to Firestone 500s is, we had a lot of failures of that 
tire over here (U.S.) and they ended up recalling and replacing them. A 
_huge_ expense for Firestone...but what could they do? Plenty of tread 
separatons, and accidents.

keith

Re: Fighting Spyware

[Keith Whaley]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Keith Whaley mused:
Bob W wrote:
Hi,
[...]
decisions.  If anyone's had experience with the program, this might be the
time to voice your comments.  Here's the site where you can DL the program
for free:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx

I decided to fight spyware, trojans and viruses from another angle. 
Bought a Mac.

iHubris

More like iCheckmate!
keith whaley

Thus _perfectly_ illustrating the iHubris description.
Ahhh. You think so? Thanks!
keith

Re: PESO (heck, maybe PAW?): "Compact Cars"

[Keith Whaley]

Splendid condition for 10 years old, I must say!
Now, you must decipher "Tdi and Vogue SE..." for us.
I assume Vogue SE is the model, but Tdi?
keith
Cotty wrote:
On 14/1/05, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed:

On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 12:40:19PM -0500, Graywolf wrote:
Anybody here aware that all SUV's are not large.

Yep.   We used to park the Range Rover in compact car slots
all the time, quite legally.  It's tall, but not otherwise
large - in fact it's significantly shorter than many cars.

Hey, take a look at this ;-)
http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare2.html
Had it about 6 weeks - just on 10 years old. It's a Tdi Vogue SE auto
with airbags and aircon, sunroof, electric leather seats with memory,
and.only 78,000 miles from new. It was a dream buy. My 4th Rangey
since 1984. Anyone wanna buy a UK 94 Cherokee 4.0 ?
Cheers,
  Cotty

Re: PESO baby deer... warning cuteness alert

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Peter J. Alling"
Subject: Re: PESO baby deer... warning cuteness alert


But did you truly dangerously, with four Firestone 500 radial tires on it.
C'est wha?
William Robb 

Re: photo printing rant

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "wendy beard"
Subject: photo printing rant


Apparently they wanted her to use the kiosk to print her own out. She was 
not impressed and informed me that they had one of those kiosks in the 
Loblaws store where she worked and the paper was "crap" and so were the 
prints.
I have to agree with her assessment of these kodak photokiosks. I did the 
same exercise just over a year ago with three other one-hour-photo places 
close to where I live or worked (the best had turned out to be a Photolab 
in Loblaws over the river in Quebec) and the photo kiosk was one of the 
things I tried out.
I think Kodak is doing itself a tremendous disservice at the moment. We have 
three machines out on the sales floor, two send work to the photo lab, one 
sends work to a built in dye sub.
The problem is, the head ends on them are identical enough that there is no 
real differentiation to what the customer is getting until the end of the 
process.
I would like to see the dye sub process go away. It is expensive, the 
quality is very questionable, the prints have the esthetic qualities of a 
three days dead gopher on the side of the road, and they will often fade as 
fast as that dead gopher gets his bones picked over.

Wow, that was a colourful metaphor.
But I digress, as always.
Anyway, it is possible that the Wal-Mart has a terminal that sends to the 
lab, but it looks the same as the kiosk.
One thing with the Noritsu labs, they are most comfortable working with sRGB 
files, so get used to that colourspace.

William Robb

RE: PESO: Friday at a bar

[Shel Belinkoff]

Hi, Juan ... 

This isn't a very good or interesting photo other for the slightly
intriguing color cast from the lights in the bar.  There's no story - just
a woman sitting at the bar staring off somewhere, no interaction of people
with one another or with the photographer.  The composition is, at best,
mediocre. Frankly, I think it's poor, but I'm sure others will find it to
be to their liking..  The face behind the subjects's face adds nothing to
the photo, and, imo, is a strong distraction and poor compositional
element.  The face at the left edge of the frame does little to add
anything to the picture.

It's quite possible that the greater DOF provided by the istd is a
detriment to what may have been a nice little "bar portrait," adding too
many recognizable distractions to the image.  A softer blur of the
background elements, without losing them completely,  might enhance the
scene.  The somewhat askew angle is nice for this shot, adding some dynamic
to what could have been an other wise very staid photo.  I think this is
certainly one situation in whch a skewed perspective works - but not enuf,
imo, to move this photo from the mundane to the marvelous.  You've done
lots of work that's a lot better.

Shel 


> From: Juan Buhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> The beauty of digital--sometimes things work better in color:
>
> http://www.jbuhler.com/blog/archives/0166.html
>
> ist D, FA35/2, ISO3200, 1/20 at f2

Re: Fighting Spyware

[johnf]

Keith Whaley mused:
> 
> 
> 
> Bob W wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > [...]
> > 
> >>>decisions.  If anyone's had experience with the program, this might be the
> >>>time to voice your comments.  Here's the site where you can DL the program
> >>>for free:
> >>>
> >>>http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx
> 
> >>I decided to fight spyware, trojans and viruses from another angle. 
> >>Bought a Mac.
> 
> > iHubris
> 
> More like iCheckmate!
> 
> keith whaley


Thus _perfectly_ illustrating the iHubris description.

Re: UK PDML 2005

[johnf]

Kostas Kavoussanakis mused:
> 
> On Sat, 15 Jan 2005, Cotty wrote:
> 
> > On 15/1/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:
> >
> > >> Magdalen College.
> > >
> > >Or even Magdalene College.  Pronounced the same, but spelled differently.
> >
> > Ahh, but is it?
> >
> > In Oxford, it's Mawdlin !
> 
> My contribution: Milngavie.

I'll offer Trottiscliffe

Re: UK PDML 2005

[johnf]

Cotty mused:
> 
> On 15/1/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >> Try this:
> >> 
> >> Magdalen College.
> >
> >Or even Magdalene College.  Pronounced the same, but spelled differently.
> 
> Ahh, but is it?
> 
> In Oxford, it's Mawdlin !

I'm well aware of that.

It's a common vanity to believe that "the other place" pronounces the
similar-looking name differently.  It just doesn't happen to be true.

Re: Fighting Spyware

[Tim Sherburne]

On 1/15/05 13:19, Bob W wrote:

> Right, I see what you mean. Well, every operating system contains
> hooks of various types, as well un- (or not publically-) documented
> features, as well as bugs, and can be hijacked, usually quite easily.
> This is not unique to Microsoft. It has always been an essential part
> of operating (and other) system design.

The trouble with Windows is that its "hooks" offer the weakest security out
of commonly compared OSs (Linux and Mac being the other two). Microsoft has
publicized many security enhancing initiatives, but they've done little to
actually follow through. It's lip service. Their products are still rife
with documented and undocumented, intentional and unintentional flaws.

> ...

> Incidentally, I disagree with your definition of a bug. I would define
> it as a discrepancy between the software and its specification, where
> the specification matches the requirements.

I agree somewhat: This is a very strict and narrow definition of a bug.
After twelve years of creating commercial software for a living, I didn't
run across this definition until I went to a Product Management seminar!

IMHO, that definition is meaningless to end users and of very little
practical use when building commercial software. Instead, it can be used as
an opportunity for developers and QA teams to dodge responsibility for using
their brains during design and testing.

Tim

RE: Best M42 body?

[Shel Belinkoff]

Open aperture - no. Stop down - yes.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Will aperture stop down/open aperture metering work with a Super Takumar
on
> the K1000 + M42 adapter?

RE: Best M42 body?

[Jens Bladt]

Will aperture stop down/open aperture metering work with a Super Takumar on
the K1000 + M42 adapter?

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 15. januar 2005 22:02
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Best M42 body?


The Spotmatic F will give you open aperture meeting with Super Multi Coated
or SMC Takumar lenses. That's a big plus over a Spotmatic. It's tough as
nails and said to be almost identical to a K1000, save for the mount. The
only minus is that the meter is always on when the lens cap is off. However,
I never found that to be a problem, as I'm somewhat religious about keeping
a lens cap on my camera when I'm not shooting.
Paul


> Is there a difference between the SpotF and the earlier Spotties, and the
F
> and , for example, the K1000, KM, KX with standard screens?
>
> Shel
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Date: 1/15/2005 10:52:38 AM
> > Subject: Re: Best M42 body?
> >
> > I've used 'em all, from Fuji and Rich to Mamiya. The all-around best,
> > hands down, is the Spotmatic F.
> > On Jan 15, 2005, at 1:00 PM, Don Sanderson wrote:
> >
> > > A while back there was mention of some M42
> > > mount bodies with superior viewfinders.
> > > I believe Fujica and Ricoh were among them.
> > > What M42 bodies have you found to be the
> > > best as far as viewfinder/weight/features, etc?
> > >
> > > TIA
> > > Don
> > >
>
>

Re: photo printing rant

[pnstenquist]

I don't think you can expect to get good prints from mass marekters. Yeah, 
there are exceptions. If you go to Bill Robb's store, I'm sure you can get a 
nice print. But by and large, it isn't going to work. What's the problem with 
your printer? I can make prints on my Epson 2200 that are the equal of any pro 
lab in town. 
Paul


> Photo finishing here is just getting worse!
> I had just prepared an 8x10 for an agility friend. It was a photo I had 
> taken in September of "Jake", a Belgian Tervuren. Only a month later, the 
> dog died.
> It was important to me that I made the best print I could. I have been 
> having problems recently with my Epson 2000P so decided to try a few local 
> photo printing places. Up until the end of last year I had been using an 
> independent lab downtown with good results. They have since been taken over 
> by a local chain and the last lot of prints I took there all had some sort 
> of staining on the edge of the paper. I have tried Blacks but they alway 
> make prints too contrasty and too saturated. Which brings me to Photolab in 
> Loblaws' stores. My daughter works there part time so I gave her a CD to 
> take in and print off for me to see what sort of a job they did. She called 
> me from work to tell me they'd run out of paper to print 8x10s and hadn't 
> had any in since last week! Then she asked if she should take the file over 
> to Walmart in her break. I said OK,  try it out, if it's not much good then 
> I haven't wasted too much money. She rang back again in a strop "Walmart 
> are being stupid" she said. (don't you just love teenagers :-) ). 
> Apparently they wanted her to use the kiosk to print her own out. She was 
> not impressed and informed me that they had one of those kiosks in the 
> Loblaws store where she worked and the paper was "crap" and so were the 
> prints.
> I have to agree with her assessment of these kodak photokiosks. I did the 
> same exercise just over a year ago with three other one-hour-photo places 
> close to where I live or worked (the best had turned out to be a Photolab 
> in Loblaws over the river in Quebec) and the photo kiosk was one of the 
> things I tried out.
> 
> I don't consider myself picky but this printing is driving me insane!
> 
> 
> Wendy Beard,
> Ottawa, Canada
> http://www.beard-redfern.com 
> 
> 

Re: Fighting Spyware

[Bob W]

Hi,

Saturday, January 15, 2005, 8:32:24 PM, Peter wrote:

> Spyware takes advantage of documented hooks into the  Browser and OS
> that Microsoft designed in for
> their own use, (for other's use as well, but I've always thought that
> was an afterthought).  A virus usually takes
> advantage of an undocumented feature, (usually known as a bug).  Spyware
> by the way is not illegal while,
> creating and releasing a virus or worm is, at least in US law. 

Right, I see what you mean. Well, every operating system contains
hooks of various types, as well un- (or not publically-) documented
features, as well as bugs, and can be hijacked, usually quite easily.
This is not unique to Microsoft. It has always been an essential part
of operating (and other) system design.

Worms and viruses and so on are like weeds. A weed is just plant in
the wrong place. All the techniques that go to making malware are
perfectly legitimate techniques, but in the wrong place.

Incidentally, I disagree with your definition of a bug. I would define
it as a discrepancy between the software and its specification, where
the specification matches the requirements.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob

Re: Best M42 body?

[Shel Belinkoff]

Ahh ... so it's not the viewfinder but the spot's need to be stopped down
in order to meter that's the issue.  OK, fair enuf.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> The Spotmatic F will give you open aperture meeting with 
> Super Multi Coated or SMC Takumar lenses. That's a big 
> plus over a Spotmatic. It's tough as nails and said to be almost 
> identical to a K1000, save for the mount. The only minus is 
> that the meter is always on when the lens cap is off.

photo printing rant

[wendy beard]

Photo finishing here is just getting worse!
I had just prepared an 8x10 for an agility friend. It was a photo I had 
taken in September of "Jake", a Belgian Tervuren. Only a month later, the 
dog died.
It was important to me that I made the best print I could. I have been 
having problems recently with my Epson 2000P so decided to try a few local 
photo printing places. Up until the end of last year I had been using an 
independent lab downtown with good results. They have since been taken over 
by a local chain and the last lot of prints I took there all had some sort 
of staining on the edge of the paper. I have tried Blacks but they alway 
make prints too contrasty and too saturated. Which brings me to Photolab in 
Loblaws' stores. My daughter works there part time so I gave her a CD to 
take in and print off for me to see what sort of a job they did. She called 
me from work to tell me they'd run out of paper to print 8x10s and hadn't 
had any in since last week! Then she asked if she should take the file over 
to Walmart in her break. I said OK,  try it out, if it's not much good then 
I haven't wasted too much money. She rang back again in a strop "Walmart 
are being stupid" she said. (don't you just love teenagers :-) ). 
Apparently they wanted her to use the kiosk to print her own out. She was 
not impressed and informed me that they had one of those kiosks in the 
Loblaws store where she worked and the paper was "crap" and so were the prints.
I have to agree with her assessment of these kodak photokiosks. I did the 
same exercise just over a year ago with three other one-hour-photo places 
close to where I live or worked (the best had turned out to be a Photolab 
in Loblaws over the river in Quebec) and the photo kiosk was one of the 
things I tried out.

I don't consider myself picky but this printing is driving me insane!
Wendy Beard,
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.beard-redfern.com 

Re: Best M42 body?

[pnstenquist]

The Spotmatic F will give you open aperture meeting with Super Multi Coated or 
SMC Takumar lenses. That's a big plus over a Spotmatic. It's tough as nails and 
said to be almost identical to a K1000, save for the mount. The only minus is 
that the meter is always on when the lens cap is off. However, I never found 
that to be a problem, as I'm somewhat religious about keeping a lens cap on my 
camera when I'm not shooting.
Paul


> Is there a difference between the SpotF and the earlier Spotties, and the F
> and , for example, the K1000, KM, KX with standard screens?  
> 
> Shel 
> 
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Date: 1/15/2005 10:52:38 AM
> > Subject: Re: Best M42 body?
> >
> > I've used 'em all, from Fuji and Rich to Mamiya. The all-around best, 
> > hands down, is the Spotmatic F.
> > On Jan 15, 2005, at 1:00 PM, Don Sanderson wrote:
> >
> > > A while back there was mention of some M42
> > > mount bodies with superior viewfinders.
> > > I believe Fujica and Ricoh were among them.
> > > What M42 bodies have you found to be the
> > > best as far as viewfinder/weight/features, etc?
> > >
> > > TIA
> > > Don
> > >
> 
> 

Re: PESO: Friday at a bar

[Juan Buhler]

By her or by the other pretty girl who was with me? :-)

No, I was sitting at the bar for a while, sipping a martini and taking
pictures, sometimes with an off-camera flash. Nobody seemed to care,
beyond a sideways glance.

Thanks Paul,

j

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:52:08 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Pretty Girl. Nice pic. Did you get caught?
> Paul
> 
> 
> > The beauty of digital--sometimes things work better in color:
> >
> > http://www.jbuhler.com/blog/archives/0166.html
> >
> > ist D, FA35/2, ISO3200, 1/20 at f2
> >
> > BTW, I'm hosting some of my blog images at flickr. There's a way to
> > get a direct link to a picture in flickr (which is blessed by them,
> > not a hack), so you guys don't have to go through the whole java
> > interface they have.
> >
> > To do this with your flickr pics, just go to "all resolutions" from
> > the image page. You'll get a direct link to the picture there.
> >
> > j
> >
> > --
> > Juan Buhler
> > http://www.jbuhler.com
> > blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog
> >
> 
> 


-- 
Juan Buhler
http://www.jbuhler.com
blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog

Re: PESO: Friday at a bar

[pnstenquist]

Pretty Girl. Nice pic. Did you get caught?
Paul


> The beauty of digital--sometimes things work better in color:
> 
> http://www.jbuhler.com/blog/archives/0166.html
> 
> ist D, FA35/2, ISO3200, 1/20 at f2
> 
> BTW, I'm hosting some of my blog images at flickr. There's a way to
> get a direct link to a picture in flickr (which is blessed by them,
> not a hack), so you guys don't have to go through the whole java
> interface they have.
> 
> To do this with your flickr pics, just go to "all resolutions" from
> the image page. You'll get a direct link to the picture there.
> 
> j
> 
> -- 
> Juan Buhler
> http://www.jbuhler.com
> blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog
> 

PESO: Friday at a bar

[Juan Buhler]

The beauty of digital--sometimes things work better in color:

http://www.jbuhler.com/blog/archives/0166.html

ist D, FA35/2, ISO3200, 1/20 at f2

BTW, I'm hosting some of my blog images at flickr. There's a way to
get a direct link to a picture in flickr (which is blessed by them,
not a hack), so you guys don't have to go through the whole java
interface they have.

To do this with your flickr pics, just go to "all resolutions" from
the image page. You'll get a direct link to the picture there.

j

-- 
Juan Buhler
http://www.jbuhler.com
blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog

Pentax Mz5-n service manual?

[alkos]

I'm thinking of making mine a black version ;) - but have no idea how to
disarm all these dials and switches. 

Anybody has a service manual / ideas / experience?


cheers
-- 
alkos at tlen pl
http://onephoto.net/portfolio.php3?id_autora=17765

shadow details is pervert's concept

Re: PESO baby deer... warning cuteness alert

[Graywolf]

Hum...? No need to worry unless you stop in the fast lane of the freeway out in 
the middle of nowhere with no lights and use an old rag for a gas cap.

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
---
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/14/2005 7:28:57 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ya gotta watch it, though.  If you tap it in the back too hard, it'll
catch fire and possibly blow up...


-frank
=
Showing your age, frank. :-)  Some young folks might not get that one. (For 
those who don't, think Ralph Nader.)

I used to own a fire red (Ford) Pinto. I drove nervously (checking for tail 
gatters) for years.

Marnie aka Doe  (Which actually wasn't a bad way to drive -- it's always good 
to watch out for the other idiots.)



--
No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.12 - Release Date: 1/14/2005

Re: Fighting Spyware

[Peter J. Alling]

Spyware takes advantage of documented hooks into the  Browser and OS 
that Microsoft designed in for
their own use, (for other's use as well, but I've always thought that 
was an afterthought).  A virus usually takes
advantage of an undocumented feature, (usually known as a bug).  Spyware 
by the way is not illegal while,
creating and releasing a virus or worm is, at least in US law. 

Bob W wrote:
Hi,
Saturday, January 15, 2005, 2:40:00 PM, Peter wrote:
 

Sadly Spyware is made possible by design, which is a bit different from
Computer Viruses which are made possible
by accident.
   

I don't understand what you mean. Could you explain, please?
 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke

RE: 135mm lenses - quality ?

[Jens Bladt]

Hello Godfrey, DagT and all
I just shot this (of my son) with the K 2.5/135mm at f.2.5 (bounced flash):
http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p10798763.html

With any luck, some sellers and bidders won't know the difference between
the K and the Takumar version.
I paid appr. 100 USD for mine wich is perhaps a little too much. But I've
seen them sell for considerably more, though.

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: DagT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 15. januar 2005 20:05
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: 135mm lenses - quality ?


Good luck, it took me about ten years looking in smaller forums and
shops for one at a decent price.  Ebay is too popular to let you be
that lucky :-)

DagT

På 15. jan. 2005 kl. 15.51 skrev Godfrey DiGiorgi:

> Thanks y'all.
>
> The one I have is not a bad performer for an el cheapo, but I'm
> looking forward to significantly better performance with the new
> one. Now if I can find one of those 135/1.8 lenses ... ;-)
>
> Godfrey
>
>
>
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Re: Keepin' track of pics

[Bob W]

Hi,

Saturday, January 15, 2005, 6:49:14 PM, Paul wrote:

> Hey! Why haven't we seen the naked belly dancers??? 

find out first if they're women or men...

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob

Re: Fighting Spyware

[Bob W]

Hi,

Saturday, January 15, 2005, 2:40:00 PM, Peter wrote:

> Sadly Spyware is made possible by design, which is a bit different from
> Computer Viruses which are made possible
> by accident.

I don't understand what you mean. Could you explain, please?

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob

Re: Best M42 body?

[Keith Whaley]

Paul Stenquist wrote:
I've used 'em all, from Fuji and Rich to Mamiya. The all-around best, 
hands down, is the Spotmatic F.
Precisely why I keep mine.
My Spotty F is almost brand new, and it's kept high and dry, 24/7.
I haven't taken it out for a walk in some time. Maybe this will prompt me...
Nevertheless, I agree with you 100%.
keith whaley
On Jan 15, 2005, at 1:00 PM, Don Sanderson wrote:
A while back there was mention of some M42
mount bodies with superior viewfinders.
I believe Fujica and Ricoh were among them.
What M42 bodies have you found to be the
best as far as viewfinder/weight/features, etc?
TIA
Don

Re: Fighting Spyware

[Bob W]

Hi,

>>
>>
> Shows to go you that the whole M$ thing is a cash cow.

in what way? I didn't have to pay for the download. I have a lot of
useful MS software on my machine which they give away, I didn't have
to pay for XP, which was pre-installed on this machine.

I'm not pro- or anti- any of the mainstream OSes - I've used far too
many different operating systems on different machines to be anything
other than pragmatic about them. The companies that supply them are as
bad or as good as each other, but I do think they should get praise where
it's due.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob

Re: 135mm lenses - quality ?

[DagT]

Good luck, it took me about ten years looking in smaller forums and 
shops for one at a decent price.  Ebay is too popular to let you be 
that lucky :-)

DagT
På 15. jan. 2005 kl. 15.51 skrev Godfrey DiGiorgi:
Thanks y'all.
The one I have is not a bad performer for an el cheapo, but I'm
looking forward to significantly better performance with the new
one. Now if I can find one of those 135/1.8 lenses ... ;-)
Godfrey

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