Re: Another damn traitor!
Graywolf wrote: I just did a BIN on a used Oylmpus C-5050. That makes me a double traitor. Buying a digi-tal, and buying a foreign brand. I have wanted one of these since they were anounced but had to wait until I could get it for pocket change. Hey, I am buying a camera that is only 3-4 years old, not 50+, but I guess that is the same thing in digital. Oh well! I was strongly tempted t'ward one of those myself -- but instead chose the Pentax Optio 550 because it *was* a Pentax (so, PUG-legal) and could go in my pocket. However, it did impress me as a cool camera, and I hope you have lots of fun with it. Maybe you'll share PESOs or PAWs now? ERNR
Re: PESO -- Night Lights
Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_nightlights.html Equipment: Pentax *ist-D SMC/Pentax 43mm Ltd. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. Mesa thinking you were trying to capture light sources of as many different color temperatures as was possible... Mesa thinking you did quite well... Boris (I am clumsy, Binks) ;-) Probably won't make a difference, but I don't think I've ever mentioned here how very, very much I *HATE* Jar-Jar Binks. Absolutely loathe, despise, abhor, can't stand 'im. Why did you pick him, Boris? I'm sure you're more the Yoda type -- deep, arcane wisdom -- you ARE a professional computer guy, aren't you? ERNR
Re: PESO - kite festival stuff
Cotty wrote: On 3/7/05, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: A small selection from this weekend's fun. You might have to f11 the page to get all of some of them on screen. My apologies. http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/529253/display/3459221 http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/529253/display/3459188 (scary) http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/529253/display/3459180 http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/529253/display/3459171 Nice pics Mike. What does f11 do?? Thanks to all responders. F11 on Netscape toggles the content part of the screen as big as possible by eliminating all toolbars, etc., except those absolutely neccessary. I think it is the same for most browsers. On PCs 8- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO - kite festival stuff
Shel Belinkoff wrote: LOL Cool! We have a kite festival here, as well, with very similar kites. http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/kite_watch.html I've got one like that! But not so good What's F11? Toggles between full screen browser pane content and normal view. Although I follow the regs for fotocommunity.com and have very few toolbars, etc. on my own screen, I still find that my pictures can occasionally be larger than the pane. Which is a pain. Shel [Original Message] From: mike wilson You might have to f11 the page to get all of some of them on screen. My apologies. http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/529253/display/3459221 http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/529253/display/3459188 (scary) http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/529253/display/3459180 http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/529253/display/3459171
Re: PESO -- Night Lights
Eleanor, I picked Jar Jar simply because of the way he speaks. I often make funny mistakes in English, so one can say my English is somewhat clumsy... Sometime ago I was called Mr Data... If that is of any help... I actually like ST (TNG) more than SW... -- Boris
Re: PESO - kite festival stuff
Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! A small selection from this weekend's fun. You might have to f11 the page to get all of some of them on screen. My apologies. http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/529253/display/3459221 http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/529253/display/3459188 (scary) http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/529253/display/3459180 http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/529253/display/3459171 Gee, Mike this is pretty darn convincing of you know what ;-)... Well, me and my wife are still pondering our plans for this vacation... Personally I like the Octopus shot the best. 8-) I saw it happening and had to run about 100yards with full Red Cross first aider kit to get into a suitable place and range. Got three shots and the batteries died. The new, charged batteries wouldn't fire the Optio up. My shooting for the day finished.
Re: To Herb Chong et al
This is one the fellow on the list who is saving quotes should save. Well said and very true. Shel [Original Message] From: Mark Cassino Hi Boris - I have not been following the 'stinkin filters thread, but I'll jump in here anyhow :-0 I sell a fair number of photos, both as individual prints and for publication, and I also do the occasional art fair and stint on the sales floor in gallery co-ops, so I've had a chance to see what goes into people's decision making process when buying photos or other art work. To be frank, the general merits of the piece, the subtle aspects and nuance of design and composition, are more or less secondary in most purchase decision. Subject is one of the primary drivers. For individual print sales, people look at the subject matter first, then colors, size, how it integrates with other decorative objects, and somewhere down the list - the overall quality of the piece. Color is important - people walk up to photos and paintings holding paint chips from their newly redecorated bedrooms, and look for decorations that match them - size is important, and only somewhere down the line does quality and impact of the work come into play. I've seen many situations where people stop to admire a particular work, return to it often, but don't buy it because it just won't work in their homes. So, except when the for the rare connoisseur or collector comes into play, I don't think sales of individual pieces means a lot in terms of the pure quality of the work. You can learn more by watching people's reactions to photos, than by what they buy. Publication photo editors are more sophisticated, but again are driven by objectives other than just the quality of the work. Size constraints, aspect ratio, blank space available to have text laid over it, how the piece integrates into the overall layout and design of the article are all factors that drive the selection decision. People who are laying out publications are probably more driven by those issues than just the quality of the individual piece - for them, the photos that they buy are the building blocks of a larger work that they are constructing. And in all cases - don't forget price. Both individuals and photo editors are working within budgets, and will juggle their purchases to try to stay on target. And, of course, the trite and the hackneyed have tremendous marketability - even more than the innovative and sublime. So at the end of they day, I don't think sales really tell you much. I also participate in juried shows and I do think that they provide a good sense of what a particular individual thinks about your work. Getting in, getting an award, getting a sense of the competitive field and the qualifications of the juror are all useful. But it has its limit. I've talked with jurors who tell me that they are concerned with 'building a coherent exhibit, so - like the photo editor - they may be looking for pieces that work together and that may be mean that really spectacular pieces get set aside, because they don't work with the balance of the whole show. And with jurors and judges, individual quirks and biases come into play. You may have a juror who is not a photographer and will judge work totally differently than a photographer, for example. So, the juried shows and competitions offer more valuable feedback, IMO, than just sales, but you are looking at a fairly narrow bit of feedback (the opinion of the judge or juror.) Personally - what really matters is your own feeling about the image. People bring their own biases and experiences to a photo and that affects how they react to it. Last year I sold a landscape to someone who had a couple of family members die at the very place I chose for my photo. For them it was a very moving image, but in a context totally different than what I intended when I created it. IMO - If you can look at a photo for a year and still like it, if you can articulate what the photo means and how it expresses that, if you can understand how the design elements in the image work, then it's probably a good photo. If other people don't 'get' it - you are hanging in the wrong crowd. If people see something there that you don't intend (or don;t even see) - don't let it go to your head. Ultimately, the validation (and harsh criticism!) has to come from within - I don't think its something that others can impart, no matter how much stuff they buy, medals they award, or insults they hurl. My two cents! - MCC - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 12:43 AM Subject: To Herb Chong et al Hi! Herb, I followed the no
Re: Any free online course/tutorials about Photoshop (and co.) ?
Thanks to all. Seems I have couple things to read for my holidays ;) 2005/7/4, Albano Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Lots of great tutorials and actions here: http://www.shanzcan.com/photoshopahol.html Regards Albano --- Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks a lot Cotty - brilliant! Jens Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 2. juli 2005 12:59 Til: pentax list Emne: Re: Any free online course/tutorials about Photoshop (and co.) ? On 2/7/05, Thibouille, discombobulated, unleashed: Dunno much about Photoshop except resizing and such but would really like to learn how to get my photos even better... En Francais: http://www.escrappers.com/fr_photoshop.html Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ Albano Garcia Photography Graphic Design http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar http://www.flaneur.albanogarcia.com.ar __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- -- Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX and KR-10x ...
Re: AA v Proprietory Batteries
On 3/7/05, Graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed: Been looking at some older diggies on eBay. Just noticed that if you buy an older camera that uses proprietory batteries you get the same capacity as came with the camera when it was new, if you can find new batteries at all. There are examples of third party after-market batteries with higher capacities around, Graywolf, but your point is taken. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: AA v Proprietory Batteries
Also, specific batteries tends to be quite more expensive, especially from original brands. I know in facts manufacturers use different names for the same batteries so there ar some compatibilities like NP120-DLI7 and so on. But a new DLI7 from Pentax comes at about 60euros here ! I got an NP120 (DLI7 compatible) from unknown brand (just wanted a litttle backup) for... 6 euros shipping included. GO figure... AA rules :) 2005/7/4, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 3/7/05, Graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed: Been looking at some older diggies on eBay. Just noticed that if you buy an older camera that uses proprietory batteries you get the same capacity as came with the camera when it was new, if you can find new batteries at all. There are examples of third party after-market batteries with higher capacities around, Graywolf, but your point is taken. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- -- Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX and KR-10x ...
RE: AA v Proprietory Batteries
Hi Graywolf oddly, some of my older Metz flashes do not like the newest 2200-2500ma batteries but do only run with older 1500-1700ma types. greetings Markus -Original Message- From: Graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 3:22 AM To: Pentax Discussion Malling List Subject: AA v Proprietory Batteries Been looking at some older diggies on eBay. Just noticed that if you buy an older camera that uses proprietory batteries you get the same capacity as came with the camera when it was new, if you can find new batteries at all. If it uses AA batteries you can get the latest 2500ma batteries instead of the 850ma ones that came with the camera. Looks like Pentax did the right thing again. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 7/1/2005
Re: PESO - kite festival stuff
On 4/7/05, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: Nice pics Mike. What does f11 do?? Thanks to all responders. F11 on Netscape toggles the content part of the screen as big as possible by eliminating all toolbars, etc., except those absolutely neccessary. I think it is the same for most browsers. Oh! I use Safari on a Mac. F11 on OS X toggles all open windows to the edge of the screen so that the desktop is suddenly cleared. Another press brings them back. On PCs 8- Commiserations! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO - kite festival stuff
On 4/7/05, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: I still find that my pictures can occasionally be larger than the pane. Which is a pain. I run 1024X768. If a pic is physically larger than the screen, I just drag it from the browser window to the desktop, then double-click on it and it opens in Preview (Mac OS X) and can be seen in entirety without scrolling. HTH Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO - Last Glimmer
On 3/7/05, Bruce Dayton, discombobulated, unleashed: I was looking around for it, but I think someone got there before me grin. It would have been nice to have several days to scout around for the best locations for sunset shooting, but we just had to take a guess and chose this one. Is this area far from a road? Does on have to take a guided tour or is it possible to roam? Obviously it's a national park with relevant codes of conduct, but generally speaking, are restrictions severe, or is it more laid back? BTW, lovely shot Bruce. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO -- Bear. Comments/suggestions appreciated.
- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 6:35 AM Subject: Re: PESO -- Bear. Comments/suggestions appreciated. Hi! Hey All A picture taken i Copenhagen Zoo http://www.fotokritik.dk/kritik.html?pic=160448 Comments/suggestions appreciated. Pentax *istDS, SMC 100-300, Handheld, ISO 200, 1/250 sec @ f/8, no filter used. no afterprocessing other than resizing. Jorn, here is the quote from the above web page: Metering Mode: Mønster -- looks a bit funny to me... Its a danish site, Mønster means multi-segment :-) But this bear is no monster, he/she is rather poor trapped fellow... Yep, its taken in a zoo. In Denmark we don't have bears this size living wild. In south of Denmark we have racoons living wild. /Jorn -- Jeg beskyttes af den gratis SPAMfighter til privatbrugere. Den har indtil videre sparet mig for at fÃ¥ 966 spam-mails. Betalende brugere fÃ¥r ikke denne besked i deres e-mails. Hent gratis SPAMfighter her: www.spamfighter.dk
Re: Re: PESO - kite festival stuff
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/07/04 Mon AM 08:00:22 GMT To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - kite festival stuff On 4/7/05, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: I still find that my pictures can occasionally be larger than the pane. Which is a pain. I run 1024X768. If a pic is physically larger than the screen, I just drag it from the browser window to the desktop, then double-click on it and it opens in Preview (Mac OS X) and can be seen in entirety without scrolling. I run the same size. Resizing pictures to 72dpi, with whatever long measurement fits the screen is ok. But it seems that something else happens when I upload to fotocommunity.com - I know the site automatically readjusts the image if it exceeds the allowed parameters. No doubt, it's something I am doing and one day my brain will work it out. Today, due to the excess sun over the weekend, it's making crazy frog noises all the time and I just want to sleep until it stops. mike - Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/
Information needed about 2 old Tamron lenses
Both lenses are old design with built-in hood and switch manual/automatic aperture (which provides a free DOF preview when not in your camera ;o). * 85-210mm f/4.5 macro (1:3) takes 55mm filters. * 135mm f/2.8 takes 55mm filters. I can send pictures if it helps identification. -- Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX and KR-10x ...
RE: Another damn traitor!
I have been looking at the C-8080 Wide Zoom. It's getting outstanding reviews for image quality. Maybe I'll get it cheap in a couple of years :-) I'm quite happy with my *ist D though. And sstill impressed with my F 70-210mm: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/23452893/ Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
OT - UK TV prog
Weds evening BBC 2 'The World's Most Photographed' http://tinyurl.com/an7r9 Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: To Herb Chong et al
Hi Mark This was by far the best contribution to this theme for me, very well written! thanks Markus -Original Message- From: Mark Cassino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 7:04 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: To Herb Chong et al Hi Boris - I have not been following the 'stinkin filters thread, but I'll jump in here anyhow :-0 I sell a fair number of photos, both as individual prints and for My two cents! - MCC
Re: Re: PESO - kite festival stuff
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/07/04 Mon AM 07:57:42 GMT To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - kite festival stuff On 4/7/05, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: Nice pics Mike. What does f11 do?? Thanks to all responders. F11 on Netscape toggles the content part of the screen as big as possible by eliminating all toolbars, etc., except those absolutely neccessary. I think it is the same for most browsers. Oh! I use Safari on a Mac. F11 on OS X toggles all open windows to the edge of the screen so that the desktop is suddenly cleared. Another press brings them back. On PCs 8- Commiserations! Indeed. It works well to enlarge the screen but, when you toggle to make it smaller, it brings _all_ the toolbars back. 8-(( Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ - Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/
Re: AA v Proprietory Batteries
Graywolf wrote on 04.07.05 3:22: Been looking at some older diggies on eBay. Just noticed that if you buy an older camera that uses proprietory batteries you get the same capacity as came with the camera when it was new, if you can find new batteries at all. If it uses AA batteries you can get the latest 2500ma batteries instead of the 850ma ones that came with the camera. Looks like Pentax did the right thing again. As long as batteries are from popular equipment there is no need to worry, there will always be a choice from independent manufacturers, often with much higher capacity and at the price of four NiMH AAs. Propriety batteries are mainly Li-Ion - they can be stored for a very long time not loosing its charge unlike NiMH. And charging partially discharged Li-Ions doesn't have any impact on batteries' capacity (althought NiMHs have very minimised memory effect). And of course they are much easier to change, especially in quick action... Of course AAs have their pluses too - especially they are much more easy available than propriety batteries which you can buy only in a few specialised shops or on eBay. -- Best regards Sylwester Pietrzyk
Re: AA v Proprietory Batteries
This is weird. So they don't like high capacity NiMH but like low capacity NiMH? What models are these, for the record ? 2005/7/4, Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Graywolf oddly, some of my older Metz flashes do not like the newest 2200-2500ma batteries but do only run with older 1500-1700ma types. greetings Markus -Original Message- From: Graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 3:22 AM To: Pentax Discussion Malling List Subject: AA v Proprietory Batteries Been looking at some older diggies on eBay. Just noticed that if you buy an older camera that uses proprietory batteries you get the same capacity as came with the camera when it was new, if you can find new batteries at all. If it uses AA batteries you can get the latest 2500ma batteries instead of the 850ma ones that came with the camera. Looks like Pentax did the right thing again. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 7/1/2005 -- -- Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX and KR-10x ...
Re: PESO: Lap Dog
Paul Stenquist wrote: This one is more my style: A pretty girl with a dog in her lap. The funny thing about this is that the dog doesn't belong to the girl. He was tied up next to the bench and just decided he'd rather sit in her lap. Smart dog. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3509533size=lg More evidence that most pets, not just cats, choose the human they prefer to be around... Good catch. Looks like one happy dog, in spite of having his ears bent over and standing in for a reading desk! g keith
Re: fixing an A 50mm f1.4
K.Takeshita wrote: On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 05:54:09, Frank Wajer wrote; BTW. I will never ever touch an A, F or FA zoom lens, that must be a nightmare. Hi, [...] I am attaching a sample pic of light axis aligned up acceptably. http://ca.geocities.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/LensAlignment.html Not a good photo, but you get an idea :-). Cheers, Ken Hi Ken, I find this a broken link. Any idea why? keith whaley
Re: Another damn traitor!
Jens Bladt wrote: I have been looking at the C-8080 Wide Zoom. It's getting outstanding reviews for image quality. Maybe I'll get it cheap in a couple of years :-) I'm quite happy with my *ist D though. And sstill impressed with my F 70-210mm: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/23452893/ Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt Hi Jens, Good performance out of that *istD stage shot! Even at ISO 800, a clean image. I too fit the traitor moniker, I'm afraid! I just bought a C-8080, for US$ 469. I had long wanted a *istD or Ds, but they remained too far out of my budget. When I found this online store offering new-in-box C-8080s for that price, I couldn't turn it down. I haven't had time over the last 2 days or so to prove it out, and am slowly setting up the menu items. I am impressed with the quality of everything, the positioning of the various buttons. I am particularly impressed with the electronic viewfinder. From everything I'd read in the past, I was prepared to be too critical of it and not like it. To the contrary, it's very clear and easy to see the full window, WITH my glasses on! Hallelujah! Even the icons and characters are large enough for my aging eyes! keith whaley
Re: GESO: Copenhagen Jazz Festival 2005
Hi Boris. That's Mads Vinding. He's a (quite3 famous) bass player (Contra Bass) :-) Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 4. juli 2005 06:56 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: GESO: Copenhagen Jazz Festival 2005 Hi! The festival started last Friday, July 1st. Yesterday I got a lot of bad shot because I forgot to use shutter priority. That the reason for the BW photogs. Today I remembered. Speeds slower than 1/320s is not fast enough. Plese notice that the SMC-F 4-5.6/70-210mm is a nice, sharp lens. The M 4/200m is not to bad either. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/536773/show/ Looks to me you did enjoy the music, Jens. Some quality stuff there... I like the most the last (I think) photo, where the guy is half smiling and playing this instrument, whose name I don't know in English. Looks like huge guitar standing on the floor... Boris
Re: fixing an A 50mm f1.4
Link works well here. 2005/7/4, keithw [EMAIL PROTECTED]: K.Takeshita wrote: On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 05:54:09, Frank Wajer wrote; BTW. I will never ever touch an A, F or FA zoom lens, that must be a nightmare. Hi, [...] I am attaching a sample pic of light axis aligned up acceptably. http://ca.geocities.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/LensAlignment.html Not a good photo, but you get an idea :-). Cheers, Ken Hi Ken, I find this a broken link. Any idea why? keith whaley -- -- Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX and KR-10x ...
Re: Another damn traitor!
Graywolf wrote: I just did a BIN on a used Oylmpus C-5050. That makes me a double traitor. Buying a digi-tal, and buying a foreign brand. At the next GFM, you will be given a fair trial by a jury of your peers (if we can find 12 grumpy guys) and then suitable sentence shall be carried out. Please be reminded that the penalty for going digital is being chained to your computer desk for several hours a day for all of eternity. Any and all digital pictures you submit to the PUG, PAWs, PESOs etc can and will be used against you. Tom (Chief Justice of the Superior Cybercourt) Reese
Re: To Herb Chong et al
in the totality of all the pictures you have ever taken, of the ones that you or anyone else thought were worth selling, were they generally better than the ones that didn't? Herb - Original Message - From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 1:03 AM Subject: Re: To Herb Chong et al And, of course, the trite and the hackneyed have tremendous marketability - even more than the innovative and sublime. So at the end of they day, I don't think sales really tell you much.
Re: fixing an A 50mm f1.4
On 7/04/05 5:41 AM, keithw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am attaching a sample pic of light axis aligned up acceptably. http://ca.geocities.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/LensAlignment.html Not a good photo, but you get an idea :-). Cheers, Ken Hi Ken, I find this a broken link. Any idea why? keith whaley Sorry about that. Should be OK now. Ken
RE: Another damn traitor!
Congratulations. A very nice bargain, I'd say. I susspect it sells for appr. twice that amount in Denmark. Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: keithw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 4. juli 2005 12:11 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Another damn traitor! Jens Bladt wrote: I have been looking at the C-8080 Wide Zoom. It's getting outstanding reviews for image quality. Maybe I'll get it cheap in a couple of years :-) I'm quite happy with my *ist D though. And sstill impressed with my F 70-210mm: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/23452893/ Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt Hi Jens, Good performance out of that *istD stage shot! Even at ISO 800, a clean image. I too fit the traitor moniker, I'm afraid! I just bought a C-8080, for US$ 469. I had long wanted a *istD or Ds, but they remained too far out of my budget. When I found this online store offering new-in-box C-8080s for that price, I couldn't turn it down. I haven't had time over the last 2 days or so to prove it out, and am slowly setting up the menu items. I am impressed with the quality of everything, the positioning of the various buttons. I am particularly impressed with the electronic viewfinder. From everything I'd read in the past, I was prepared to be too critical of it and not like it. To the contrary, it's very clear and easy to see the full window, WITH my glasses on! Hallelujah! Even the icons and characters are large enough for my aging eyes! keith whaley
Re: Paw: Eric invades my flower shot
Boris said Dave, I think you misplaced a focus point. On my monitor, which is mere 17 :-), it looks like the leave on the upper right corner are in focus, there is slightly out. I don't think you were after leaves really... And somehow, perhaps also because of the above, the wings of the bee are not seen, which to me takes much away from the shot... I have to ask why you called that bee Eric? Or did I miss something out? Boris I noticed that lef to Boris, but is was definitly focusing on the flower. Maybe as i was hand holding it might explain thet. Not sure. I dont remember the exact settings, but i know i was using a lowish shutter speed which would have an impact on wings. Monty Phython did a skit involving Eric the half a bee. Thats were that comes from. Thanks for the comments Dave
Re: GESO: More Dragonflies
Nice Herb. I especially like number three. On Jul 3, 2005, at 11:53 PM, Herb Chong wrote: sometimes, you go with the herd because that's what everyone else is doing, and sometimes you go with the herd because there isn't anything else to do. i went to take pictures of birds and they all decided to stay away from me, so here are some dragonflies too. all taken with Pentax *istD with A* 400/2.8 and 1.7X AF extender and a Sigma EF-500 DG Super in high speed synch mode. DOF is essentially zero shooting wide open at the minimum focusing distance of about 4m. i chose to use ISO 200 for these shots instead of my usual 800 for this type of work because of lower noise. they were mostly staying still as i was shooting and i thought it was worth the risk of vibration or motion blur. http://users.bestweb.net/~hchong/Seasonal/ Herb
Re: To Herb Chong et al
as far as i am concerned that generically describes a photo that will sell. all i have seen in the last couple of days is a few people who are insecure about their photography and have chips on their shoulders about it show fuzzy thinking or lack of any. the great artists never compromised their vision nor their passion about their art and their work was considered great anyway which meant that people eventually wanted to buy it. working photographers who regularly sell their work know that what they think they can sell and what they like to do have met and are mostly the same thing. it also is the case that those images that they think will sell are the ones that are better than the ones they don't think they can sell in terms of composition, exposure, and originality. Herb - Original Message - From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 1:03 AM Subject: Re: To Herb Chong et al IMO - If you can look at a photo for a year and still like it, if you can articulate what the photo means and how it expresses that, if you can understand how the design elements in the image work, then it's probably a good photo. If other people don't 'get' it - you are hanging in the wrong crowd. If people see something there that you don't intend (or don;t even see) - don't let it go to your head. Ultimately, the validation (and harsh criticism!) has to come from within - I don't think its something that others can impart, no matter how much stuff they buy, medals they award, or insults they hurl.
Re: OT: Epson 890 in Mac OS 10.4-- Print Center/ Dialog box can't be found...
On Jul 3, 2005, at 5:01 PM, Sid Barras wrote: I no longer seem to have access to the printer during printing. I recall that in earlier versions of OS X, that in system preferences there was a control panel called print center that functioned like the epson print monitor of OS 9. I needed to stop a photo I was printing because I had set up the wrong page size, and the printer was spraying ink all over where there was no paper during the process. But try as I might, there was no way to stop it, because there was no print center or epson print monitor to call up. Hi Sid: I'm not familiar with the Epson 890, but I think the procedure should be similar to my Epson 925 and 2200. As Paul noted, the utility formerly known as Print Center is not (no longer?) in System Preferences but in Applications - Utilities - Printer Setup Utility. When you open it, it shows you a list of printers you have configured. You double-click on a printer and it'll open a window showing the jobs in the queue for that printer. From there, you can start/stop the print jobs, delete them, etc. Since this is a separate application from the setup utility, I keep the queue applications that I frequently use in the dock or make an alias of it and put it somewhere convenient, like the desktop. That way, I can launch the print queue directly without opening the Printer Setup Utility first. --jc
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
it speaks of value of using this as a criterion of value. mishka On 7/3/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cheap consumer junk far outsells anything else. especially here, in us. That speaks more to cultural values than it does to any other qualifer. William Robb
Re: PDML Bergen Brygge, Norway (was RE: GESO: Aker Brygge, Oslo, Norway)
Quoting mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: According to Slartibartfast, the Bits were not Twiddly, but Fiddly...:-) OK. Shame on me. As punishment for your ignorance you will do duty at the oars of the PDML boat all the way through the FiddlyBits of Hardanger from Odda to Fusa, while the rest of us sample the local production of cider and fruits. :-) Cheers, Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
- Original Message - From: Mishka Subject: Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters! it speaks of value of using this as a criterion of value. Values are values. You can judge em if you like, but not with much validity. William Robb
Re: PESO: Lap Dog
- Original Message - From: keithw Subject: Re: PESO: Lap Dog http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3509533size=lg More evidence that most pets, not just cats, choose the human they prefer to be around... Some are just affection sluts too. Leica is one of those. She'll go to anyone for affection, and then look back at me to make sure I am watching. If she gets to be too much of a tart, I just hand the leash to whomever she has velcroed herself to and walk away. This usually cures her for a while William Robb
Re: PESO - Last Glimmer
- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: PESO - Last Glimmer Is this area far from a road? Does on have to take a guided tour or is it possible to roam? Obviously it's a national park with relevant codes of conduct, but generally speaking, are restrictions severe, or is it more laid back? Arches is pretty laid back. I was accosted by a ranger the last time I was there for wandering too far off the path. We had a pleasant conversation, I told him what to watch out for (some stuff just shouldn't be trampled on) and he pretty much told me to have fun and carry on. If you are going to hike off path, be aware it is a desert, it gets bloody hot, and you will need a lot of water if you plan to stay ambulatory. Take some time to learn about the local ecosystem so you don't kill anything that has taken a couple of millenia to grow, and have fun. The best time of day to photograph is just around sunrise, before too many tourists are out, but at any time of the day or night, there are opportunities for some very nice photography. The last time we were in the area, we took a drive up to Dead Horse Point not far from Arches. I decided to take a side road back, I think it was the Shaeffer Basin Trail, and got myself into a world of difficulty, as my vehicle wasn't up to the task of navigating the road. I ended up putting a huge dent in the oil pan of my little Nissan Axxess AWD, which didn't bother it at all, though oil changes were noticably smaller volume afer that (like about 200ml). This also started the search for a bigger truck, culminating in the purchase of my Titan $WD last year. After we got back to a real road, my wife said that if I was going to keep doing shit like this, we needed a bigger truck. The entire South Utah area, right from Moab to Zion is pretty incredible for scenery. Leave the rocks there, they aren't as red when you get them home. William Robb
LINK: Was DIY *ist DS remote cable shutter
Here is the link to Rob's answer and pictures to his remote. http://www.mail-archive.com/pentax-discuss@pdml.net/msg256824.html Dave Asked by me and answered by Rob Studdert a little while ago, as well. Do an archive search for this thread: Why the istD wired remote is so large or harebrained sch [eme] The part in brackets got truncated, I'm just including it for clarity. I'd leave it out of the search. It occurs to me that only firing some of the time might not be the fault of your remote, but be related to how the camera options are set. In certain circumstances it seems the shutter will only fired if the AF is locked on to something. Sorry I can't be more specific, this is a behavior that catches me unaware, every now and then. At 4:09 PM +0200 7/3/05, Michel Carrère-Gée wrote: Joaquim Carvalho a écrit : Anyone knows how? I tried and I'm confused, it only fires some of the t imes. Same as *istD (Canon) My (french) page: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/krg/trucs/telecommandes.htm -- Alan P. Hayes Meaning and Form: Writing, Editing and Document Design Pittsfield, Massachusetts Photographs at http://www.ahayesphoto.com/americandead/index.htm
My first attemt at street shooting
As previously announced ;-) here is my first street shots! I have been talking about street shooting here at PDML before. I have been attracted to the idea, but something has been holding me back. There is something about sticking a lens into somebody's face. I can't help thinking about it as something slightly similar to a forced entry. I know this is stupid, most street shooting is a mutual thing. You interact with the object. But never the less, the object is an object. Pardon my sexual references here, it is the best way I am able to explain myself. Anyway:Now at last Saturday, I managed to get out there and do it! Here it, a slightly edited version of this day, 15 shots. Most of them snaps, some candid, and some street shots with social contact, and some with the photographer interacting with them, while shooting them. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fototim/ At first I was very shy, lurking around, picturing people's backs. After a while I was feeling more comfortable. One of the pictures I do like; the cuddling couple. The girl/woman first rejected, and then she said ok. You can picture my dog, and then lifted it up. They are both looking into the camera, giving me a kind of curious look. Comments, ideas, reflections, feedback, and good/bad advices are highly appreciated. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian.) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
Lunch time PUG Commnets
Hi Gang I have some time today at my lunch break so I thought some Pug comments would be in order. The Pug comments seem to have fallen by the wayside for a bit, so Ill comment on some of my favorites. I like them all, but these stand out a bit more for me. Decent to Saturn by Thomas Cakalic I love the swirls the pollen make in the water. The geometry of them is great. Captured the seperation between rings very well. You could have had a contest. I never would have quessed what that was. Home for the Holodays by Frank Theriault Nicely exposed (and focused) and the background is pleasing. The faces tell the story. Nice one, Frank. /^ by Dag Thrane I love the soft pastel feel to this shot. Nice background and light. Busy Bumblebee by Martin Albrecht I like the flower colours and the bee has good detail. Nice and sharp. Close encounter of the Feline Kind by Boris Liberman I like the framing and pose of the cat. Having the cat on one side and a nice OOF background on the other works well for this shot. (Plus owning 3 of my own help tovbg) Close the Doors by Gerald Lewis I love the lines in this shot. How the doors are not all sitting one way. Nice Well thats it for my lunch time Pug comments. Good job again folks and one day Ill get my s**t together and make a deadline or two.vbg Keep up the good work. Dave Brooks
RE: My first attemt at street shooting
Hi Tim, I only had a chance to look at the thumbnails and one or two larger pics. It's nice to see how you progressed from shyness, photographing people from behind, to making strong contact. A good first step. Now, get closer. Use a shorter prime lens for the work, and move in a little more. The cuddling couple is a nice shot, but you were too far away. Coming in closer with a lens in the 85mm range (+/-) might have given you a really super shot and allowed some context as well. More later - gotta run ;-)) Keep it up! Shel [Original Message] From: Tim Øsleby Here it, a slightly edited version of this day, 15 shots. Most of them snaps, some candid, and some street shots with social contact, and some with the photographer interacting with them, while shooting them. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fototim/ At first I was very shy, lurking around, picturing people's backs. After a while I was feeling more comfortable. One of the pictures I do like; the cuddling couple. The girl/woman first rejected, and then she said ok. You can picture my dog, and then lifted it up. They are both looking into the camera, giving me a kind of curious look. Comments, ideas, reflections, feedback, and good/bad advices are highly appreciated.
Re: My first attemt at street shooting
Some nice ones ther Tim. I like the hugging corner and the accordian player. You do realize the next step in street photography is going through Madonna's garbage eh. LOL, just kidding.:-) Dave As previously announced ;-) here is my first street shots! http://www.flickr.com/photos/fototim/ Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian.) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
Re: PESO - Contrasts
Great shot Bruce. I love how you use the available landscape as a frame. Nice contrast between the reds and the blues. Good shadow detai to. Dave 4th picture from the Southern Utah trip. Near/far, red/blue, desert/snow - several ways to look at this. Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, handheld ISO 400, 1/1000 sec @ f/11 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0271.htm Comments welcome -- Best regards, Bruce
F 70-210mm 4.0-5.6
I'm feeling happy. This morning I got the F 70-210mm 4.0-5.6 zoom I bought on Ebay and did some preliminary tests. It is very very good: - even wide open at 210mm it clearly outperforms the *ist CCD - it focuses fast!
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
no kidding? :) mishka On 7/4/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Values are values.
Re: GESO: Copenhagen Jazz Festival 2005
Hi! Hi Boris. That's Mads Vinding. He's a (quite3 famous) bass player (Contra Bass) :-) Yep, it is contrabass (one word) in my mother's tongue too. But I was afraid that I would have my another Jar Jar moment... Boris (C) Plasticity ;-)
Re: F 70-210mm 4.0-5.6
Obviously you didn't try it in dim light, then it has a very hard time with focus lock. But other than that it's a lovely lens. Joaquim Carvalho wrote: I'm feeling happy. This morning I got the F 70-210mm 4.0-5.6 zoom I bought on Ebay and did some preliminary tests. It is very very good: - even wide open at 210mm it clearly outperforms the *ist CCD - it focuses fast! -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: PDML Bergen Brygge, Norway (was RE: GESO: Aker Brygge, Oslo, Norway)
Jostein wrote: Quoting mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: According to Slartibartfast, the Bits were not Twiddly, but Fiddly...:-) OK. Shame on me. As punishment for your ignorance you will do duty at the oars of the PDML boat all the way through the FiddlyBits of Hardanger from Odda to Fusa, while the rest of us sample the local production of cider and fruits. :-) That will probably do both of us a lot of good. 8-)
Re: fixing an A 50mm f1.4
K.Takeshita wrote: On 7/04/05 5:41 AM, keithw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am attaching a sample pic of light axis aligned up acceptably. http://ca.geocities.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/LensAlignment.html Not a good photo, but you get an idea :-). Cheers, Ken Hi Ken, I find this a broken link. Any idea why? keith whaley Sorry about that. Should be OK now. Ken Super! Opened right up... Thanks. keith whaley
GESO: Mishka and Knarf at the Beer Garden
Mishka, Nate and I caught up with Frank last night at the Bohemian Beer Garden in Queens last night. A couple of pix were out of focus, but I tried to save them with Focus Magic. http://sunny16.smugmug.com/gallery/635576 Amita
Re: GESO: Mishka and Knarf at the Beer Garden
Hi! Mishka, Nate and I caught up with Frank last night at the Bohemian Beer Garden in Queens last night. A couple of pix were out of focus, but I tried to save them with Focus Magic. http://sunny16.smugmug.com/gallery/635576 Mishka raising a pint is kind of cool... One can really see that the only think man can do, is attach himself to a pint ;-). Boris
Re: Another damn traitor!
PAW's? PESO's? Umm... Actually I do not have the get up and get started to do pretty pictures. Personal snapshots, stuff for my website, and maybe some ebay stuff is probably going to be about it. Besides, I have a whole website out there, I do not have to post just one photo now and then grin. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- E.R.N. Reed wrote: Graywolf wrote: I just did a BIN on a used Oylmpus C-5050. That makes me a double traitor. Buying a digi-tal, and buying a foreign brand. I have wanted one of these since they were anounced but had to wait until I could get it for pocket change. Hey, I am buying a camera that is only 3-4 years old, not 50+, but I guess that is the same thing in digital. Oh well! I was strongly tempted t'ward one of those myself -- but instead chose the Pentax Optio 550 because it *was* a Pentax (so, PUG-legal) and could go in my pocket. However, it did impress me as a cool camera, and I hope you have lots of fun with it. Maybe you'll share PESOs or PAWs now? ERNR -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/38 - Release Date: 7/4/2005
Re: Another damn traitor!
Actually, Tom, I only want a digital so I can use it to catch you guys in embarrassing situations at GFM and publish the photos to the list grin. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Tom Reese wrote: Graywolf wrote: I just did a BIN on a used Oylmpus C-5050. That makes me a double traitor. Buying a digi-tal, and buying a foreign brand. At the next GFM, you will be given a fair trial by a jury of your peers (if we can find 12 grumpy guys) and then suitable sentence shall be carried out. Please be reminded that the penalty for going digital is being chained to your computer desk for several hours a day for all of eternity. Any and all digital pictures you submit to the PUG, PAWs, PESOs etc can and will be used against you. Tom (Chief Justice of the Superior Cybercourt) Reese -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/38 - Release Date: 7/4/2005
Re: GESO: Mishka and Knarf at the Beer Garden
Mishka, Nate and I caught up with Frank last night at the Bohemian Beer Garden in Queens last night. A couple of pix were out of focus, but I tried to save them with Focus Magic. http://sunny16.smugmug.com/gallery/635576 Amita All these years i had suspisions of Frank owning funny hats and pink shirts. Now we have proof.vbg I like the beer shot of Mishka. Dave
RE: LINK: Was DIY *ist DS remote cable shutter
I just put up something similar on my website if it's of any help to anyone. http://www.sunny16.net/cable-release-istD.htm Amita -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Here is the link to Rob's answer and pictures to his remote. http://www.mail-archive.com/pentax-discuss@pdml.net/msg256824.html Dave Asked by me and answered by Rob Studdert a little while ago, as well. Do an archive search for this thread: Why the istD wired remote is so large or harebrained sch [eme] The part in brackets got truncated, I'm just including it for clarity. I'd leave it out of the search. It occurs to me that only firing some of the time might not be the fault of your remote, but be related to how the camera options are set. In certain circumstances it seems the shutter will only fired if the AF is locked on to something. Sorry I can't be more specific, this is a behavior that catches me unaware, every now and then. At 4:09 PM +0200 7/3/05, Michel Carrère-Gée wrote: Joaquim Carvalho a écrit : Anyone knows how? I tried and I'm confused, it only fires some of the t imes. Same as *istD (Canon) My (french) page: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/krg/trucs/telecommandes.htm -- Alan P. Hayes Meaning and Form: Writing, Editing and Document Design Pittsfield, Massachusetts Photographs at http://www.ahayesphoto.com/americandead/index.htm
Re: My first attemt at street shooting
You are moving in the right direction. I is hard to photograph strangers for most of us. It does get more comfortable if you do it often. Except for the dirt on the planter and the cardboard box (I guess photoshop could fix those) I like the one of the accordian player sitting (a strong center of interest and enough background to put it into context). graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Tim Øsleby wrote: As previously announced ;-) here is my first street shots! I have been talking about street shooting here at PDML before. I have been attracted to the idea, but something has been holding me back. There is something about sticking a lens into somebody's face. I can't help thinking about it as something slightly similar to a forced entry. I know this is stupid, most street shooting is a mutual thing. You interact with the object. But never the less, the object is an object. Pardon my sexual references here, it is the best way I am able to explain myself. Anyway:Now at last Saturday, I managed to get out there and do it! Here it, a slightly edited version of this day, 15 shots. Most of them snaps, some candid, and some street shots with social contact, and some with the photographer interacting with them, while shooting them. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fototim/ At first I was very shy, lurking around, picturing people's backs. After a while I was feeling more comfortable. One of the pictures I do like; the cuddling couple. The girl/woman first rejected, and then she said ok. You can picture my dog, and then lifted it up. They are both looking into the camera, giving me a kind of curious look. Comments, ideas, reflections, feedback, and good/bad advices are highly appreciated. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian.) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/38 - Release Date: 7/4/2005
RE: My first attemt at street shooting
Forgot to mention, used a Sigma 18-50/2,8. The cuddling couple the picture you refer to is 50mm, the accordion player is 29mm. Never the less, you are right Shel. The hugging policewoman is one example of a picture that definitely would have been improved by moving a lot closer. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian.) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 4. juli 2005 18:26 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: My first attemt at street shooting Hi Tim, I only had a chance to look at the thumbnails and one or two larger pics. It's nice to see how you progressed from shyness, photographing people from behind, to making strong contact. A good first step. Now, get closer. Use a shorter prime lens for the work, and move in a little more. The cuddling couple is a nice shot, but you were too far away. Coming in closer with a lens in the 85mm range (+/-) might have given you a really super shot and allowed some context as well. More later - gotta run ;-)) Keep it up! Shel [Original Message] From: Tim Øsleby Here it, a slightly edited version of this day, 15 shots. Most of them snaps, some candid, and some street shots with social contact, and some with the photographer interacting with them, while shooting them. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fototim/ At first I was very shy, lurking around, picturing people's backs. After a while I was feeling more comfortable. One of the pictures I do like; the cuddling couple. The girl/woman first rejected, and then she said ok. You can picture my dog, and then lifted it up. They are both looking into the camera, giving me a kind of curious look. Comments, ideas, reflections, feedback, and good/bad advices are highly appreciated.
Re: GESO: Mishka and Knarf at the Beer Garden
i guess, my head shows a nice bo-keh :) nice shots, amita! best, mishka On 7/4/05, Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mishka, Nate and I caught up with Frank last night at the Bohemian Beer Garden in Queens last night. A couple of pix were out of focus, but I tried to save them with Focus Magic. http://sunny16.smugmug.com/gallery/635576 Amita
Re: F 70-210mm 4.0-5.6
Obviously you didn't try it in dim light, then it has a very hard time with focus lock. But other than that it's a lovely lens. Joaquim Carvalho wrote: I'm feeling happy. This morning I got the F 70-210mm 4.0-5.6 zoom I bought on Ebay and did some preliminary tests. It is very very good: - even wide open at 210mm it clearly outperforms the *ist CCD - it focuses fast! -- Every lens on the D focuses poorly in low light. It is the camera, not the lenses. Congratulations on getting this lens. I use it too. It is indeed quite good wide open at the long end. Now if someone would just test it systematically against the DA 50-200. Joe
Re: GESO: Mishka and Knarf at the Beer Garden
Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mishka, Nate and I caught up with Frank last night at the Bohemian Beer Garden in Queens last night. A couple of pix were out of focus, but I tried to save them with Focus Magic. http://sunny16.smugmug.com/gallery/635576 Whatever lead you to believe that a shot of Frank *ought* to be in focus? -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
RE: To Herb Chong et al
Hi, I give up on this thread. You really don't get it. You're so far away from understanding why people object to what you've said that nothing any of us write is going to help you. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 July 2005 12:53 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: To Herb Chong et al as far as i am concerned that generically describes a photo that will sell. all i have seen in the last couple of days is a few people who are insecure about their photography and have chips on their shoulders about it show fuzzy thinking or lack of any. the great artists never compromised their vision nor their passion about their art and their work was considered great anyway which meant that people eventually wanted to buy it. working photographers who regularly sell their work know that what they think they can sell and what they like to do have met and are mostly the same thing. it also is the case that those images that they think will sell are the ones that are better than the ones they don't think they can sell in terms of composition, exposure, and originality. Herb - Original Message - From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 1:03 AM Subject: Re: To Herb Chong et al IMO - If you can look at a photo for a year and still like it, if you can articulate what the photo means and how it expresses that, if you can understand how the design elements in the image work, then it's probably a good photo. If other people don't 'get' it - you are hanging in the wrong crowd. If people see something there that you don't intend (or don;t even see) - don't let it go to your head. Ultimately, the validation (and harsh criticism!) has to come from within - I don't think its something that others can impart, no matter how much stuff they buy, medals they award, or insults they hurl.
Re: PESO - Last Glimmer
Re: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0308.htm Very nice, Bruce. I am trying to figure out if the foreground adds or detracts. Joe
Re: PESO: subject interaction
Boris, Joaquim, thank you for your thoughts. Yes, the leaves really look weird, something I hadn't seen when taking the shots. I was thinking of cropping very much away from around the woman in focus, yet that would have been different pictures. Is it that what you meant by close-up stealth shot, Joaquim, or should I try to get closer to the lady without being noticed? The scan still has lots of reserve, so if you like I can post a center crop. Actually, she's the wife of the man who organizes this searies of concerts every year, so I'll most probably see her next sunday. Thank you, pancho
Re: PESO - Last Glimmer
Wheatfield wrote: Arches is pretty laid backIf you are going to hike off path, be aware it is a desert, it gets bloody hot, and you will need a lot of water if you plan to stay ambulatory. Take some time to learn about the local ecosystem so you don't kill anything that has taken a couple of millenia to grow, and have fun. The local ecosystem. Do watch out for the squirrels and other fauna. When we last camped there (1988, I believe), a fox came into our camp during the day (while we were away) and made off with my wife's bar of Pears Soap. But it is the squirrels that are truly diabolical. We made the mistake of leaving out a new, never opened jar of peanut butter. It was a glass jar with a plastic lid. We came back to find the lid off and the contents about 1/4 eaten. There were tooth marks all around the rim of the lid. The squirrels had worked so long and systematically at getting into the jar that they had actually unscrewed the lid. If you see one of these squirrels, treat it as you would a grizzly bear at Yellowstone. Joe
Re: PESO: Lap Dog
Really funny, I just re-watched the photo before I was going to close the window and then I noticed something that I kind of felt but didn't realize until that moment: girl and dog have nearly the same look on their faces, especially the eyebrows and the mouth - strangers but soulmates? pancho Paul Stenquist wrote: This one is more my style: A pretty girl with a dog in her lap. The funny thing about this is that the dog doesn't belong to the girl. He was tied up next to the bench and just decided he'd rather sit in her lap. Smart dog. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3509533size=lg
PUG's Up
Thanks, Adelheid. Joe
Re: My first attemt at street shooting
I loved 1089 ... the gal with the flower in her horn ... Jerry in Houston
Re: Another damn traitor!
Graywolf wrote: Actually, Tom, I only want a digital so I can use it to catch you guys in embarrassing situations at GFM and publish the photos to the list Oh NO! Not another PDML paparazzi. I'm going to need a disguise next year. I think I'll pretend I'm a drunken Canadian. There are enough of those that I could get lost in the crowd. Tom (good idea eh?) Reese
Re: F 70-210mm 4.0-5.6
The 43ltd isn't so bad, it is a fast prime however. The 20-35 FA is much better as well, also a stop faster. Based on my experience with Canon Products they don't do much better in dim light with slow lenses either, oh if only we all could afford f2.8 and faster glass... Joseph Tainter wrote: Obviously you didn't try it in dim light, then it has a very hard time with focus lock. But other than that it's a lovely lens. Joaquim Carvalho wrote: I'm feeling happy. This morning I got the F 70-210mm 4.0-5.6 zoom I bought on Ebay and did some preliminary tests. It is very very good: - even wide open at 210mm it clearly outperforms the *ist CCD - it focuses fast! -- Every lens on the D focuses poorly in low light. It is the camera, not the lenses. Congratulations on getting this lens. I use it too. It is indeed quite good wide open at the long end. Now if someone would just test it systematically against the DA 50-200. Joe -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Owner in Exif data
Hey All I have heard that in some DSLR's it's possible to put owner in the camera so it shows in exif data. Is that possible to do on a Pentax *ist DS or a Pentax *ist D ? /Jorn -- Jeg beskyttes af den gratis SPAMfighter til privatbrugere. Den har indtil videre sparet mig for at få 1009 spam-mails. Betalende brugere får ikke denne besked i deres e-mails. Hent gratis SPAMfighter her: www.spamfighter.dk
Re: GESO: Mishka and Knarf at the Beer Garden
The beer is in focus. That's what's important! Rick --- Mishka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i guess, my head shows a nice bo-keh :) nice shots, amita! best, mishka On 7/4/05, Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mishka, Nate and I caught up with Frank last night at the Bohemian Beer Garden in Queens last night. A couple of pix were out of focus, but I tried to save them with Focus Magic. http://sunny16.smugmug.com/gallery/635576 Amita __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Double exposures with *istD: part 1
Some may recall that I made a very successful in-camera double-exposure of a moon into a mountainous landscape a couple of months back. In retrospect, it seems that more luck than knowledge was involved. By a factor of ten, at least. A recent adventure with a poppy demonstrated that luck doesn't help much in the long run. :-) Today i did a series of double-exposures, similar to the one of the poppy, but under more controlled conditions. One part-exposure in focus (IF), and one part out of focus (OOF). I varied the relative exposures of each part between -0 and -2 stops. http://www.oksne.net/tests/dbls/index.html The lens was FA 100/2.8 macro. The IF exposures were done at f/32, the OOF at f/2.8. White balance was set to auto, and ISO at 200. I worked with a tripod this time. The raw conversion is done with the QuickProof function of PhaseOne C1 Raw v3.6, and no attempts were made to change any parameters from the camera. The background is dark grey to the eye, and the light was clear blue evening sky. There are a few conclusions and at least a few oddities. One conclusion is that the multi-exposure function in *istD does not recalculate exposure based on the number of part-exposures involved. Cameras like the Z-1/Z-1p subtracted a certain EV value to each exposure based on the total number. The *istD, however, does not. The EXIF data recorded are only from the last part-exposure. One oddity is the IF: -1 OOF: -2 picture, that has a colour balance noticeably different from all the others, even though the whitebalance reports to the same number as do all the other shots. Light was almost constant during my session, too, so this one beats me... This test is probably only scratching the surface of a big issue. Maybe it's easier to control it in Photoshop after all...:-) Jostein
*istDS Zoom 90WR remote
I've just discovered the wonders of using the remote control from the Pentax 90WR with the *istDS. No more running from the 2 second self-timer. No more waiting uncomfortably for the 12 second count down from the self-timer. Three second count down is sufficient to allow me to hide the control from sight, or I can just trip the shutter. Now if only I don't lose this little guy. A happy Pentax user, Pat in SF
Your Favorite Pentax Camera
Hi Gang ... Another Pentax list member and I were talking and comparing what gear we now have. Over the years we've known one another a lot of cameras and lenses have passed through our hands. While looking at my list I began thinking which, of all my cameras, past and present, is my favorite. Surprisingly, it became something off a toss-up between the KM and the MAX, with the KM coming out just a little ahead of the MAX. I like its heft, its utter simplicity (toss the battery and you end up with an SLR version of a Leica M3), uncluttered viewfinder, DOFF preview, and ... gee, that's all it's got, which is another reason why it's so enjoyable to use ;-)) So, what's your favorite Pentax - even if it's one that you don't use or use very much. Shel
Re: Your Favorite Pentax Camera
Z1P. I have a *ist DS but i like my Z1P better. /jorn - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 11:13 PM Subject: Your Favorite Pentax Camera Hi Gang ... Another Pentax list member and I were talking and comparing what gear we now have. Over the years we've known one another a lot of cameras and lenses have passed through our hands. While looking at my list I began thinking which, of all my cameras, past and present, is my favorite. Surprisingly, it became something off a toss-up between the KM and the MAX, with the KM coming out just a little ahead of the MAX. I like its heft, its utter simplicity (toss the battery and you end up with an SLR version of a Leica M3), uncluttered viewfinder, DOFF preview, and ... gee, that's all it's got, which is another reason why it's so enjoyable to use ;-)) So, what's your favorite Pentax - even if it's one that you don't use or use very much. Shel -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 01-07-2005 -- Jeg beskyttes af den gratis SPAMfighter til privatbrugere. Den har indtil videre sparet mig for at få 1015 spam-mails. Betalende brugere får ikke denne besked i deres e-mails. Hent gratis SPAMfighter her: www.spamfighter.dk
Re: Your Favorite Pentax Camera
On Mon, 4 Jul 2005, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Surprisingly, it became something off a toss-up between the KM and the MAX, with the KM coming out just a little ahead of the MAX. MAX??? Kostas (not enough cameras, too new a Z-1p to participate)
Re: My first attemt at street shooting
On 4/7/05, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: Here it, a slightly edited version of this day, 15 shots. Most of them snaps, some candid, and some street shots with social contact, and some with the photographer interacting with them, while shooting them. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fototim/ Good work Tim. best for me is 1103. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Your Favorite Pentax Camera
LX På 4. jul. 2005 kl. 23.13 skrev Shel Belinkoff: Hi Gang ... Another Pentax list member and I were talking and comparing what gear we now have. Over the years we've known one another a lot of cameras and lenses have passed through our hands. While looking at my list I began thinking which, of all my cameras, past and present, is my favorite. Surprisingly, it became something off a toss-up between the KM and the MAX, with the KM coming out just a little ahead of the MAX. I like its heft, its utter simplicity (toss the battery and you end up with an SLR version of a Leica M3), uncluttered viewfinder, DOFF preview, and ... gee, that's all it's got, which is another reason why it's so enjoyable to use ;-)) So, what's your favorite Pentax - even if it's one that you don't use or use very much. Shel
Re: My first attemt at street shooting
On 4/7/05, Jerry in Houston, discombobulated, unleashed: I loved 1089 ... the gal with the flower in her horn Flowers always give me the horn.. (with apologies to Derek and Clive) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Double exposures with *istD: part 1
At 01:48 PM 04/07/2005 , Jostein wrote: This test is probably only scratching the surface of a big issue. Maybe it's easier to control it in Photoshop after all...:-) I don't get it. Other than the challenge what is the point of double exposure in digital? Two images and an image editing program give so much more control. All of what Jostein did can be done by duping the background layer and blurring. The result can be interactively adjusted with amount of blur Opacity and many other controls. Powell
Re: Your Favorite Pentax Camera
MX - spell checker was celebrating the July 4th holiday ;-)) Shel [Original Message] From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Date: 7/4/2005 2:23:49 PM Subject: Re: Your Favorite Pentax Camera On Mon, 4 Jul 2005, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Surprisingly, it became something off a toss-up between the KM and the MAX, with the KM coming out just a little ahead of the MAX. MAX??? Kostas (not enough cameras, too new a Z-1p to participate)
RE: Your Favorite Pentax Camera
Shel Belinkoff wrote: So, what's your favorite Pentax - even if it's one that you don't use or use very much. LX. Malcolm
Re: Your Favorite Pentax Camera
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Your Favorite Pentax Camera So, what's your favorite Pentax - even if it's one that you don't use or use very much. 6x7. William Robb
Re: Another damn traitor!
- Original Message - From: Tom Reese Subject: Re: Another damn traitor! Graywolf wrote: Actually, Tom, I only want a digital so I can use it to catch you guys in embarrassing situations at GFM and publish the photos to the list Oh NO! Not another PDML paparazzi. I'm going to need a disguise next year. I think I'll pretend I'm a drunken Canadian. There are enough of those that I could get lost in the crowd. I'll make sure to get really, stinkingly, offensively drunk at the next one. We'll see how well Mr. Civilized Reese fits in. Start practising your projectile vomiting now Tom. You'll need some proficiency in this area. W..W
Re: Double exposures with *istD: part 1
- Original Message - From: Jostein Subject: Double exposures with *istD: part 1 Today i did a series of double-exposures, similar to the one of the poppy, but under more controlled conditions. One part-exposure in focus (IF), and one part out of focus (OOF). I varied the relative exposures of each part between -0 and -2 stops. Remember when doing this sort of picture that with the secondary exposure, the focus needs to be closer, not farther as compared to the first one. William Robb
Re: Double exposures with *istD: part 1
- Original Message - From: Powell Hargrave Subject: Re: Double exposures with *istD: part 1 At 01:48 PM 04/07/2005 , Jostein wrote: This test is probably only scratching the surface of a big issue. Maybe it's easier to control it in Photoshop after all...:-) I don't get it. Other than the challenge what is the point of double exposure in digital? I would find doing what you described as a Photoshop manipulation much more challenging than a very simple double exposure technique. William Robb
Happy Fireworks Day.
Happy Birthday You'all William Robb
Re: PESO - Last Glimmer
Sounds great, thanks Bill. I've always wanted to gowho hasn't? Is Arches near Monument Valley? I have this thing for John Ford On 4/7/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: Arches is pretty laid back. I was accosted by a ranger the last time I was there for wandering too far off the path. We had a pleasant conversation, I told him what to watch out for (some stuff just shouldn't be trampled on) and he pretty much told me to have fun and carry on. If you are going to hike off path, be aware it is a desert, it gets bloody hot, and you will need a lot of water if you plan to stay ambulatory. Take some time to learn about the local ecosystem so you don't kill anything that has taken a couple of millenia to grow, and have fun. The best time of day to photograph is just around sunrise, before too many tourists are out, but at any time of the day or night, there are opportunities for some very nice photography. The last time we were in the area, we took a drive up to Dead Horse Point not far from Arches. I decided to take a side road back, I think it was the Shaeffer Basin Trail, and got myself into a world of difficulty, as my vehicle wasn't up to the task of navigating the road. I ended up putting a huge dent in the oil pan of my little Nissan Axxess AWD, which didn't bother it at all, though oil changes were noticably smaller volume afer that (like about 200ml). This also started the search for a bigger truck, culminating in the purchase of my Titan $WD last year. After we got back to a real road, my wife said that if I was going to keep doing shit like this, we needed a bigger truck. The entire South Utah area, right from Moab to Zion is pretty incredible for scenery. Leave the rocks there, they aren't as red when you get them home. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: Your Favorite Pentax Camera
Still love the ME Super for it's quiet. MX, and now the LX, are very close seconds. The ist-D is wonderful, but a whole different class of beast. Don -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 4:13 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Your Favorite Pentax Camera Hi Gang ... Another Pentax list member and I were talking and comparing what gear we now have. Over the years we've known one another a lot of cameras and lenses have passed through our hands. While looking at my list I began thinking which, of all my cameras, past and present, is my favorite. Surprisingly, it became something off a toss-up between the KM and the MAX, with the KM coming out just a little ahead of the MAX. I like its heft, its utter simplicity (toss the battery and you end up with an SLR version of a Leica M3), uncluttered viewfinder, DOFF preview, and ... gee, that's all it's got, which is another reason why it's so enjoyable to use ;-)) So, what's your favorite Pentax - even if it's one that you don't use or use very much. Shel
Re: Your Favorite Pentax Camera
In no particular order: Spotmatic F LX *istD 6x7 On Jul 4, 2005, at 5:13 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi Gang ... Another Pentax list member and I were talking and comparing what gear we now have. Over the years we've known one another a lot of cameras and lenses have passed through our hands. While looking at my list I began thinking which, of all my cameras, past and present, is my favorite. Surprisingly, it became something off a toss-up between the KM and the MAX, with the KM coming out just a little ahead of the MAX. I like its heft, its utter simplicity (toss the battery and you end up with an SLR version of a Leica M3), uncluttered viewfinder, DOFF preview, and ... gee, that's all it's got, which is another reason why it's so enjoyable to use ;-)) So, what's your favorite Pentax - even if it's one that you don't use or use very much. Shel
Re: PESO - Last Glimmer
- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: PESO - Last Glimmer Sounds great, thanks Bill. I've always wanted to gowho hasn't? Is Arches near Monument Valley? I have this thing for John Ford It's a couple of hours north of Monument Valley, with lots of cool stuff in between. A really good car trip starts at Moab, goes south to Monument Valley, then meanders around the Utah Arizona border, making sure to take in theValley of the Gods, Moki Dugway, Natural Bridges, the Escalante area, Waterpocket Fold, over to Kodachrome and Bryce Canyon via the Glen Canyon, and then heading into the mountains to chill out for a while. Hole in the Rock and Devils Canyon (I think that's what it's called) are in the same area as well, and certainly worthy of exploring. Leave yourself a month, at least, and take a high clearance 4WD vehicle. William Robb
Re: Your Favorite Pentax Camera
On 4/7/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed: So, what's your favorite Pentax - even if it's one that you don't use or use very much. It's a close thing between the 1D and the MX, but as well as my favourite Pentax, the MX is also my favourite camera. The MX, for me, embodies everything about photography that I hold dear. The 1D is simply the same thing in digital. But I will be buried with the MX ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: My first attemt at street shooting
I like the gal with the horn as well. I also like the girl and the dog and the couple on the porch. Tighter would have been better on that last one. One general comment would be to frame lower on group shots. Don't center the heads. Good first effort. Keep shooting. Paul On Jul 4, 2005, at 5:25 PM, Cotty wrote: On 4/7/05, Jerry in Houston, discombobulated, unleashed: I loved 1089 ... the gal with the flower in her horn Flowers always give me the horn.. (with apologies to Derek and Clive) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO - Last Glimmer
On 4/7/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: A really good car trip starts at Moab, goes south to Monument Valley, then meanders around the Utah Arizona border, making sure to take in theValley of the Gods, Moki Dugway, Natural Bridges, the Escalante area, Waterpocket Fold, over to Kodachrome and Bryce Canyon via the Glen Canyon, and then heading into the mountains to chill out for a while. Hole in the Rock and Devils Canyon (I think that's what it's called) are in the same area as well, and certainly worthy of exploring. Leave yourself a month, at least, and take a high clearance 4WD vehicle. Rock and roll!!! It would have to be either a LR 90 (NAS): http://www.roverworld.com/chris_hinkle.htm or a CJ-5: http://4wheeldrive.about.com/library/uc/ucgraphics/Jeep.jpg I'd lean towards the Jeep for sheer power, but the Landy's coil springs are not to be sniffed at for axle articulation over the rocks. I'm going to save your itinerary for the day I actually make that trip, ta Bill Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Happy Fireworks Day.
On 4/7/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: Happy Birthday You'all Yeah, I'll second that. But for heaven's sake leave the damn stars alone. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Another damn traitor!
Wheatfield Willie tried to threaten me when he wrote: I'll make sure to get really, stinkingly, offensively drunk at the next one. We'll see how well Mr. Civilized Reese fits in. Start practising your projectile vomiting now Tom. You'll need some proficiency in this area. You're on Robb. Vodka, cranberry juice and Hormel Chili at 2 paces. Just remember that there aren't any showers there. Tom Reese
