UnPentax Write-up

2008-02-15 Thread Tim Bray
You gotta have a pocket cam and, well, I'm not crazy on Pentax's.  I
just got a Ricoh GX100, which I think appeals to an aesthetic that's
sort-of-similar to Pentaxians'.  Anyhow, here's a first-impressions
piece (warning: contains pictures of one cat and two flowers):
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2008/02/14/Ricoh-GX100

 -T

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Re: Oh, the temptation...

2008-02-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Feb 14, 2008, at 9:18 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 The current crop of digital sensors aren't able to capture the full
 resolution that the best prime lenses are capable of.  That kind of
 levels Primes and Zooms as far as resolution is concerned.  ..


LOL ...

On the one hand there are people saying that digital sensors aren't  
capable of obtaining the full resolution of today's best lenses.

On the other hand there are people saying that today's lenses aren't  
capable of delivering the kind of resolution that today's sensors  
demand of them.

Meanwhile, ninety percent of the people complaining about lens  
performance and image quality refuse to use a tripod.

It's a mixed up, messed up, dazed and confuzed world, eh?

Godfrey


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Re: Oh, the temptation...

2008-02-15 Thread P. J. Alling
The 200mm prime should be quite a bit lighter. 

Cotty wrote:
 DA*200/2.8.
 

 Forgive my ignorance (and it is great), but why would anyone want a
 prime lens at this length when a 70 or 80 - 200 2.8 zoom is available
 (assuming of course optical performance of the zoom matches up to the prime) ?

 I can understand a 300 or 400 at 2.8, but not a 200.


   


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Re: Oh, the temptation...

2008-02-15 Thread AlunFoto
Hmmm...
Which hand would be the more sinister, I wonder?
:-)

Jostein
(who's signing off today for 10 days of winter mid-term holidays and
to keep an appointment with a certain Mouse.)


2008/2/15, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 LOL ...

 On the one hand there are people saying that digital sensors aren't
 capable of obtaining the full resolution of today's best lenses.

 On the other hand there are people saying that today's lenses aren't
 capable of delivering the kind of resolution that today's sensors
 demand of them.

 Meanwhile, ninety percent of the people complaining about lens
 performance and image quality refuse to use a tripod.

 It's a mixed up, messed up, dazed and confuzed world, eh?

 Godfrey


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Re: Published!

2008-02-15 Thread AlunFoto
Great news Peter!
Congrats!
Well deserved too. :-)

Best,
Jostein

2008/2/15, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Well I got a front page in a small distribution monthly, (printed on
 newsprint but what the heck), for this

 http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20%20presentingtheflag2.html

 No money, just a photo credit, but hey it's the front page.

 Same monthly is giving me a second front page next month for an ad hoc
 product shot.  Not particularly artistic but once again its a Front Page.

 (If I could only get someone to pay me for this stuff life would be sweet).

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Re: Published!

2008-02-15 Thread Cotty
On 15/02/08, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

Well I got a front page in a small distribution monthly, (printed on 
newsprint but what the heck), for this

http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20%
20presentingtheflag2.html

No money, just a photo credit, but hey it's the front page.


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Re: Oh, the temptation...

2008-02-15 Thread mike wilson

 
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 Subject: Re: Oh, the temptation...
 
 
 On Feb 14, 2008, at 7:13 AM, AlunFoto wrote:
 
  2008/2/14, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  angel on the left shoulderYou know you want to.../angel on the  
  left shoulder
 
  Left shoulder... Is that the feathery one or the pointy one?
 
 
 Left in Latin is Sinister. 

Exactly.


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Re: Oh, the temptation...

2008-02-15 Thread Carlos Royo
AlunFoto escribió:
 The lure of the K20D.
 And the DA*200/2.8.
 
 Saw them both today, at Pentax Norway.
 
 Oh well...
 

I understand you, Jostein. Right now, the temptation for me is a K10D at 
the present low prices. I keep telling myself that the *ist DS I have 
now is enough for my modest photographic needs, and that I should save 
for lenses, not camera bodies, but the K10D is very tempting for its 
additional features.

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Re: Oh, the temptation...

2008-02-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
The prime should be quite a bit better than the zoom, particularly  
wide open. Fewer compromises. It might also be more compact.
Paul
On Feb 14, 2008, at 7:18 AM, Cotty wrote:

 DA*200/2.8.

 Forgive my ignorance (and it is great), but why would anyone want a
 prime lens at this length when a 70 or 80 - 200 2.8 zoom is available
 (assuming of course optical performance of the zoom matches up to  
 the prime) ?

 I can understand a 300 or 400 at 2.8, but not a 200.


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Re: PESO - Swinging

2008-02-15 Thread Scott Loveless
Bob W wrote:
 it builds on and extends a line of artistic descent from Fragonard and
 Watteau, through Renoir and Winslow Homer all the way to Gerry and the
 Pacemakers. Congratulations - you are living proof of Wittgenstein's
 theory of art as family resemblance.

Thanks.  I think.  While I most definitely am the product of a 
descent, I'll have to disagree with your intentional butchering of 
art.  LOL.  You made my day, Bob.

 
 Bob 
 
 I've been staring at this one for a while, and I'm still not 
 sure if I 
 like it.  So I thought I'd let the collective make up my mind for
 me. 
 ;) 
 http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/MeganAndMolly/photo#515
 4404518927952050

 Holga, some cheap Eastern Bloc film that won't lay flat, f8 @ 
 1/60 (give 
 or take).

 Thanks!
 
 


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Re: UnPentax Write-up

2008-02-15 Thread David Savage
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Tim Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You gotta have a pocket cam

I beg to differ...

Cheers,

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Re: Published!

2008-02-15 Thread David Savage
Excellent.

Cheers,

Dave

On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:49 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well I got a front page in a small distribution monthly, (printed on
  newsprint but what the heck), for this

  
 http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20%20presentingtheflag2.html

  No money, just a photo credit, but hey it's the front page.

  Same monthly is giving me a second front page next month for an ad hoc
  product shot.  Not particularly artistic but once again its a Front Page.

  (If I could only get someone to pay me for this stuff life would be sweet).

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Re: PESO: Street Race

2008-02-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Jack. Yep, the passenger gives away my dirty little secret:-).  
In truth, the cars are cruising at about 30 mph. It's only their  
relative position and the 1/10th of a second shutter speed that  
create the impression of speed.
Paul
On Feb 14, 2008, at 8:41 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

 Nice action! I get the feeling the 'orange' passenger either doesn't
 care who wins the race or it's a foregone conclusion.
 His demeanor does reduce the 'excitement' factor. ;)

 Jack
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 Processing some more of my old dream cruise pics for a project I'm
 working on. This one caught my eye.
 FA 50/1.4 on *istD. f2.8, 1/10th second.
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6948169size=lg

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Re: Published!

2008-02-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nice shot. I recall being impressed when I saw it here a while back.  
Congratulations. You should check around and see if they pay some of  
their contributing photographers. Most pubs do, but many will try to  
stiff you if they can.
Paul
On Feb 15, 2008, at 5:21 AM, David Savage wrote:

 Excellent.

 Cheers,

 Dave

 On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:49 PM, P. J. Alling  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well I got a front page in a small distribution monthly, (printed on
  newsprint but what the heck), for this

  http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20% 
 20presentingtheflag2.html

  No money, just a photo credit, but hey it's the front page.

  Same monthly is giving me a second front page next month for an  
 ad hoc
  product shot.  Not particularly artistic but once again its a  
 Front Page.

  (If I could only get someone to pay me for this stuff life would  
 be sweet).

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Re: Oh, the temptation...

2008-02-15 Thread AlunFoto
:-)

Jostein

2008/2/14, Toralf Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Toralf Lund wrote:
  AlunFoto wrote:
 
  2008/2/14, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 
 
  angel on the left shoulderYou know you want to.../angel on the left 
  shoulder
 
 
  Left shoulder... Is that the feathery one or the pointy one?
 
 
  Hmm... Hard to tell...
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIxWB_R7Ucc
 
 And

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJowl_UxjN4

 ;-)

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Re: Oh, the temptation...

2008-02-15 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
Same here...but I am more tempted maybe by the K200D since I prefer its size (I 
would loose the 2 wheel options though).

However, if the K20D reviews are really good in the IQ side, I could even 
consider it, although I am a bit disappointed by its non-improved AF.

Regards,
Jaume

- Mensaje original 
De: Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Enviado: viernes, 15 de febrero, 2008 10:48:02
Asunto: Re: Oh, the temptation...

AlunFoto 
escribió:
 
The 
lure 
of 
the 
K20D.
 
And 
the 
DA*200/2.8.
 
 
Saw 
them 
both 
today, 
at 
Pentax 
Norway.
 
 
Oh 
well...
 

I 
understand 
you, 
Jostein. 
Right 
now, 
the 
temptation 
for 
me 
is 
a 
K10D 
at 
the 
present 
low 
prices. 
I 
keep 
telling 
myself 
that 
the 
*ist 
DS 
I 
have 
now 
is 
enough 
for 
my 
modest 
photographic 
needs, 
and 
that 
I 
should 
save 
for 
lenses, 
not 
camera 
bodies, 
but 
the 
K10D 
is 
very 
tempting 
for 
its 
additional 
features.

Carlos

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Re: Oh, the temptation...

2008-02-15 Thread P. J. Alling
Yahoo has much to answer for...

Jaume Lahuerta wrote:
 Same here...but I am more tempted maybe by the K200D since I prefer its size 
 (I would loose the 2 wheel options though).

 However, if the K20D reviews are really good in the IQ side, I could even 
 consider it, although I am a bit disappointed by its non-improved AF.

 Regards,
 Jaume

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 De: Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Enviado: viernes, 15 de febrero, 2008 10:48:02
 Asunto: Re: Oh, the temptation...

 AlunFoto 
 escribió:
   
 The 
 lure 
 of 
 the 
 K20D.
   
 And 
 the 
 DA*200/2.8.
   
 
 Saw 
 them 
 both 
 today, 
 at 
 Pentax 
 Norway.
   
 
 Oh 
 well...
   

 I 
 understand 
 you, 
 Jostein. 
 Right 
 now, 
 the 
 temptation 
 for 
 me 
 is 
 a 
 K10D 
 at 
 the 
 present 
 low 
 prices. 
 I 
 keep 
 telling 
 myself 
 that 
 the 
 *ist 
 DS 
 I 
 have 
 now 
 is 
 enough 
 for 
 my 
 modest 
 photographic 
 needs, 
 and 
 that 
 I 
 should 
 save 
 for 
 lenses, 
 not 
 camera 
 bodies, 
 but 
 the 
 K10D 
 is 
 very 
 tempting 
 for 
 its 
 additional 
 features.

 Carlos

   


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Re: Published!

2008-02-15 Thread P. J. Alling
I get the feeling that their budget is non existent for such things.  
But I'll ask for a rate sheet..

Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Nice shot. I recall being impressed when I saw it here a while back.  
 Congratulations. You should check around and see if they pay some of  
 their contributing photographers. Most pubs do, but many will try to  
 stiff you if they can.
 Paul
 On Feb 15, 2008, at 5:21 AM, David Savage wrote:

   
 Excellent.

 Cheers,

 Dave

 On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:49 PM, P. J. Alling  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Well I got a front page in a small distribution monthly, (printed on
  newsprint but what the heck), for this

  http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20% 
 20presentingtheflag2.html

  No money, just a photo credit, but hey it's the front page.

  Same monthly is giving me a second front page next month for an  
 ad hoc
  product shot.  Not particularly artistic but once again its a  
 Front Page.

  (If I could only get someone to pay me for this stuff life would  
 be sweet).
   
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Re: Oh, the temptation...

2008-02-15 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 I remember translating the tale of Mucius Scaevola, a left handed  
 soldier in the Roman army, who distinguished himself by taking  
 advantage of his opposite handed-ness to protect his commander in  
 unusual circumstances way back when in Latin IV classes.

They must have some dangerous Latin IV classes back then!
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Re: Published!

2008-02-15 Thread Bob Sullivan
Congrats Peter!
The shot still gives me the willies...
Like the gathering of a coven of witches.
Don't tell the participants.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 11:49 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well I got a front page in a small distribution monthly, (printed on
 newsprint but what the heck), for this

 http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20%20presentingtheflag2.html

 No money, just a photo credit, but hey it's the front page.

 Same monthly is giving me a second front page next month for an ad hoc
 product shot.  Not particularly artistic but once again its a Front Page.

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Re: UnPentax Write-up

2008-02-15 Thread P. J. Alling
The *ist-D with 40mm lens is a pocket cam.  If you have big enough 
pockets.  (Hell the Kodak Medalist is a pocket cam if you humongous 
pockets).

David Savage wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Tim Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 You gotta have a pocket cam
 

 I beg to differ...

 Cheers,

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Re: Published!

2008-02-15 Thread P. J. Alling
It's all very civic minded.  The participants each say a snippet about 
how the flag represents freedom and responsibility, all very uplifting, 
in a 19th century sort of way.  The visuals are actually meant to be awe 
inspiring the words are actually a bit mundane.

Bob Sullivan wrote:
 Congrats Peter!
 The shot still gives me the willies...
 Like the gathering of a coven of witches.
 Don't tell the participants.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 11:49 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Well I got a front page in a small distribution monthly, (printed on
 newsprint but what the heck), for this

 http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20%20presentingtheflag2.html

 No money, just a photo credit, but hey it's the front page.

 Same monthly is giving me a second front page next month for an ad hoc
 product shot.  Not particularly artistic but once again its a Front Page.

 (If I could only get someone to pay me for this stuff life would be sweet).

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Re: Published!

2008-02-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Congratulations!

G

On Feb 14, 2008, at 9:49 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 Well I got a front page in a small distribution monthly, (printed on
 newsprint but what the heck), for this

 http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20% 
 20presentingtheflag2.html

 No money, just a photo credit, but hey it's the front page.

 Same monthly is giving me a second front page next month for an ad hoc
 product shot.  Not particularly artistic but once again its a Front  
 Page.

 (If I could only get someone to pay me for this stuff life would be  
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Re: Published!

2008-02-15 Thread Jack Davis
The selfless permission of allowing their use is your reward. I know,
maudlin, but true. 
I get it, Peter. In the beginning..blah..blah, but the generosity
factor does tend to morph into a chipping away of your sense of photo
worth. If you should start setting firm 'realistic' prices, you'll
likely and surprisingly, find it won't offend the buyer. Trepidation
for doing so is universal.

Jack
--- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well I got a front page in a small distribution monthly, (printed on 
 newsprint but what the heck), for this
 

http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20%20presentingtheflag2.html
 
 No money, just a photo credit, but hey it's the front page.
 
 Same monthly is giving me a second front page next month for an ad
 hoc 
 product shot.  Not particularly artistic but once again its a Front
 Page.
 
 (If I could only get someone to pay me for this stuff life would be
 sweet).
 
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Re: Oh, the temptation...

2008-02-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
When I had my Canon gear, I had the 100/2, 70-200/4L and the 300/4L  
IS lenses. I found myself preferring the primes most of the time, and  
it wasn't because of the image quality or focal length. The prime  
lenses just let me work the way I want to. I had the 200/2.8L in my  
sights ...

Godfrey


On Feb 14, 2008, at 4:18 AM, Cotty wrote:

 DA*200/2.8.

 Forgive my ignorance (and it is great), but why would anyone want a
 prime lens at this length when a 70 or 80 - 200 2.8 zoom is available
 (assuming of course optical performance of the zoom matches up to  
 the prime) ?

 I can understand a 300 or 400 at 2.8, but not a 200.

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Re: Published!

2008-02-15 Thread P. J. Alling
The sad thing Jack is that I was once the Photo Editor for a small 
newspaper.  I had a bigger budget, ( we had a bigger staff, and we were 
a weekly), than the publication my shot is appearing in.  The local 
quality rag doesn't even use outside photographers unless they write 
for them as well.  The Daily or as I like to think of them the No 
Quality Rag, well I'm not even sure I'd want to get published there, it 
couldn't do my reputation any good.

Jack Davis wrote:
 The selfless permission of allowing their use is your reward. I know,
 maudlin, but true. 
 I get it, Peter. In the beginning..blah..blah, but the generosity
 factor does tend to morph into a chipping away of your sense of photo
 worth. If you should start setting firm 'realistic' prices, you'll
 likely and surprisingly, find it won't offend the buyer. Trepidation
 for doing so is universal.

 Jack
 --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 Well I got a front page in a small distribution monthly, (printed on 
 newsprint but what the heck), for this


 
 http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20%20presentingtheflag2.html
   
 No money, just a photo credit, but hey it's the front page.

 Same monthly is giving me a second front page next month for an ad
 hoc 
 product shot.  Not particularly artistic but once again its a Front
 Page.

 (If I could only get someone to pay me for this stuff life would be
 sweet).

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BH Shipped me a K10D with Firmware Version 1.00

2008-02-15 Thread Mark Erickson
All,

So I decided to purchase an end of life K10D before they're all gone. It
arrived, and it has Firmware Version 1.00 on it! Looks like I got a
beginning of life item. I suppose I could just flash V1.3 from the Pentax
website, but what about hardware manufacturing defects corrected as Pentax
debugged the production line, etc. ?

Any advice from the paranoid out there? 

I posted the same question over at DPReview, so we'll see what the paranoid
over there say

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Re: BH Shipped me a K10D with Firmware Version 1.00

2008-02-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The 'paranoid' on DPReview have already responded.

In-box configurations are very expensive to change. A firmware rev  
change is an in-box configuration change. All K10Ds ship with v1.0  
firmware other than the special edition GP units.

Improvements to manufacturing processes do not imply an in-box  
configuration change.

G

On Feb 15, 2008, at 8:52 AM, Mark Erickson wrote:

 So I decided to purchase an end of life K10D before they're all  
 gone. It
 arrived, and it has Firmware Version 1.00 on it! Looks like I got a
 beginning of life item. I suppose I could just flash V1.3 from  
 the Pentax
 website, but what about hardware manufacturing defects corrected as  
 Pentax
 debugged the production line, etc. ?

 Any advice from the paranoid out there?

 I posted the same question over at DPReview, so we'll see what the  
 paranoid
 over there say


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Re: BH Shipped me a K10D with Firmware Version 1.00

2008-02-15 Thread Dario Bonazza
Yes, I forgot the GP, as reported by Godfrey. That's the only exception, I 
believe.
Dario

- Original Message - 
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: BH Shipped me a K10D with Firmware Version 1.00


 The 'paranoid' on DPReview have already responded.

 In-box configurations are very expensive to change. A firmware rev
 change is an in-box configuration change. All K10Ds ship with v1.0
 firmware other than the special edition GP units.

 Improvements to manufacturing processes do not imply an in-box
 configuration change.

 G

 On Feb 15, 2008, at 8:52 AM, Mark Erickson wrote:

 So I decided to purchase an end of life K10D before they're all
 gone. It
 arrived, and it has Firmware Version 1.00 on it! Looks like I got a
 beginning of life item. I suppose I could just flash V1.3 from
 the Pentax
 website, but what about hardware manufacturing defects corrected as
 Pentax
 debugged the production line, etc. ?

 Any advice from the paranoid out there?

 I posted the same question over at DPReview, so we'll see what the
 paranoid
 over there say


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Re: BH Shipped me a K10D with Firmware Version 1.00

2008-02-15 Thread P. J. Alling
You don't need to check DP review I'll Channel them for you...  You're 
Doomed!  You can pay the man on your way out.

Mark Erickson wrote:
 All,

 So I decided to purchase an end of life K10D before they're all gone. It
 arrived, and it has Firmware Version 1.00 on it! Looks like I got a
 beginning of life item. I suppose I could just flash V1.3 from the Pentax
 website, but what about hardware manufacturing defects corrected as Pentax
 debugged the production line, etc. ?

 Any advice from the paranoid out there? 

 I posted the same question over at DPReview, so we'll see what the paranoid
 over there say

 --Mark


   


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Re: BH Shipped me a K10D with Firmware Version 1.00

2008-02-15 Thread Dario Bonazza
Mark,

AFAIK, all K10D's and all other Pentax cameras are manufactured with their 
respective 1.00 firmware through their whole production and none of them has 
got a newer release. All firmware releases higher than 1.00 must be loaded 
by the user.
So you have no clue for telling it's an early camera.

Dario

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Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 5:52 PM
Subject: BH Shipped me a K10D with Firmware Version 1.00


 All,

 So I decided to purchase an end of life K10D before they're all gone. It
 arrived, and it has Firmware Version 1.00 on it! Looks like I got a
 beginning of life item. I suppose I could just flash V1.3 from the 
 Pentax
 website, but what about hardware manufacturing defects corrected as Pentax
 debugged the production line, etc. ?

 Any advice from the paranoid out there?

 I posted the same question over at DPReview, so we'll see what the 
 paranoid
 over there say

 --Mark


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Re: BH Shipped me a K10D with Firmware Version 1.00

2008-02-15 Thread pnstenquist
Since BH is a very high volume seller, I would be surprised if it's an early 
production run camera.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Mark,
 
 AFAIK, all K10D's and all other Pentax cameras are manufactured with their 
 respective 1.00 firmware through their whole production and none of them has 
 got a newer release. All firmware releases higher than 1.00 must be loaded 
 by the user.
 So you have no clue for telling it's an early camera.
 
 Dario
 
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 From: Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PDML pdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 5:52 PM
 Subject: BH Shipped me a K10D with Firmware Version 1.00
 
 
  All,
 
  So I decided to purchase an end of life K10D before they're all gone. It
  arrived, and it has Firmware Version 1.00 on it! Looks like I got a
  beginning of life item. I suppose I could just flash V1.3 from the 
  Pentax
  website, but what about hardware manufacturing defects corrected as Pentax
  debugged the production line, etc. ?
 
  Any advice from the paranoid out there?
 
  I posted the same question over at DPReview, so we'll see what the 
  paranoid
  over there say
 
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Re: UnPentax Write-up

2008-02-15 Thread Steve Desjardins
Agreed.  I think this is the best use of the 40, especially when you
have an FA 50.  Doesn't quite work on the K10D, however, at least not
with my pockets.

Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
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 P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/15/2008 8:53 AM 
The *ist-D with 40mm lens is a pocket cam.  If you have big enough 
pockets.  (Hell the Kodak Medalist is a pocket cam if you humongous 
pockets).

David Savage wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Tim Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
   
 You gotta have a pocket cam
 

 I beg to differ...

 Cheers,

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Re: BH Shipped me a K10D with Firmware Version 1.00

2008-02-15 Thread pnstenquist
I bought a K10D the first week it was available, and it's been fine. 

 -- Original message --
From: Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 All,
 
 So I decided to purchase an end of life K10D before they're all gone. It
 arrived, and it has Firmware Version 1.00 on it! Looks like I got a
 beginning of life item. I suppose I could just flash V1.3 from the Pentax
 website, but what about hardware manufacturing defects corrected as Pentax
 debugged the production line, etc. ?
 
 Any advice from the paranoid out there? 
 
 I posted the same question over at DPReview, so we'll see what the paranoid
 over there say
 
 --Mark
 
 
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Re: BH Shipped me a K10D with Firmware Version 1.00

2008-02-15 Thread Carlos Royo
Dario Bonazza escribió:
 Mark,
 
 AFAIK, all K10D's and all other Pentax cameras are manufactured with their 
 respective 1.00 firmware through their whole production and none of them has 
 got a newer release. All firmware releases higher than 1.00 must be loaded 
 by the user.
 So you have no clue for telling it's an early camera.
 

If he opens a file shot with the camera with Photo ME (can be downloaded 
from www.photome.de), the program will show in the exif information the 
manufaturing date of the camera, at least it does with the photos shot 
with my DS.

Carlos

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Re: PESO:Siena (warning more feline imagery)

2008-02-15 Thread P. J. Alling
And the snake got into my keyboard.
\
P. J. Alling wrote:
 I like the crop, you may have been forced to make it but it adders interest.

 Alastair Robertson wrote:
   
  A proper cat pic this time - our second new kitten Siena -
 http://kiwibiologist.zenfolio.com/p410086235/?photo=436485011 -
 another SPCA rescue

 The panorama format was actually forced on me as she was under the bed
 and everything above the frame was obscured by bed clothes so I
 cropped this out. I like the way it turned out.

 Alastair

   
 


   


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Re: BH Shipped me a K10D with Firmware Version 1.00

2008-02-15 Thread Dario Bonazza
True, looks like my K10D GP was manufactured 2007-07-04.
Thanks Carlos!
Dario

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Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: BH Shipped me a K10D with Firmware Version 1.00


Dario Bonazza escribió:
 Mark,

 AFAIK, all K10D's and all other Pentax cameras are manufactured with their
 respective 1.00 firmware through their whole production and none of them 
 has
 got a newer release. All firmware releases higher than 1.00 must be loaded
 by the user.
 So you have no clue for telling it's an early camera.


If he opens a file shot with the camera with Photo ME (can be downloaded
from www.photome.de), the program will show in the exif information the
manufaturing date of the camera, at least it does with the photos shot
with my DS.

Carlos

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Re: Interview with Tim Hetherington

2008-02-15 Thread Derby Chang
Bob W wrote:
 He is the photographer who has won this year's World Press Photo
 Award. It includes a photo essay from Afghanistan:

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7240590.stm

 --
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Excellent. I hadn't seen the photo essay before. It really puts the 
winning shot in context.


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Re: Interview with Tim Hetherington

2008-02-15 Thread pnstenquist
Amazing journalism. Thanks for sharing it.
Paul
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 He is the photographer who has won this year's World Press Photo
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Interview with Tim Hetherington

2008-02-15 Thread Bob W
He is the photographer who has won this year's World Press Photo
Award. It includes a photo essay from Afghanistan:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7240590.stm

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OT - Bojidar Nikonovich?

2008-02-15 Thread Cotty
Sorry if this is brain fade time - I may have asked this question here before.

Can anyone recommend a web site (maybe like Boz's Pentax site) that
defines old and new Nikon/Nikkor offerings - particularly what will and
will not work on modern Nikon DSLR cameras? I would like to hunt for a
present for someone, a wide prime and need a starting point.

Many thanks.


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Re: OT - Bojidar Nikonovich?

2008-02-15 Thread Bong Manayon
Try this  http://www.nikonians.org/nikon/slr-lens.html

On Sat, Feb 16, 2008 at 7:20 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry if this is brain fade time - I may have asked this question here before.

  Can anyone recommend a web site (maybe like Boz's Pentax site) that
  defines old and new Nikon/Nikkor offerings - particularly what will and
  will not work on modern Nikon DSLR cameras? I would like to hunt for a
  present for someone, a wide prime and need a starting point.

  Many thanks.


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Re: OT - Bojidar Nikonovich?

2008-02-15 Thread Derby Chang
Cotty wrote:
 Sorry if this is brain fade time - I may have asked this question here before.

 Can anyone recommend a web site (maybe like Boz's Pentax site) that
 defines old and new Nikon/Nikkor offerings - particularly what will and
 will not work on modern Nikon DSLR cameras? I would like to hunt for a
 present for someone, a wide prime and need a starting point.

 Many thanks.


   

This one is pretty good (I remember him from my LX days)
http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/nikon/nikkoresources/AFNikkor/index.htm

For compatibility
http://www.nikonians.org/nikon/slr-lens.html

D

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Re: OT - Bojidar Nikonovich?

2008-02-15 Thread David Savage
At 08:51 AM 16/02/2008, Cotty wrote:
On 15/02/08, Peter Fairweather, discombobulated, unleashed:

 Three is always the great Nobel prizewinner himself!!
 
 http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/compatibility-lens.htm

Actually that's not bad.

But I still don't want to Help Ken Rockwell ;-)


I don't think anyone can... 


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Re: OT - Bojidar Nikonovich?

2008-02-15 Thread Cotty
On 16/02/08, Bong Manayon, discombobulated, unleashed:

Try this  http://www.nikonians.org/nikon/slr-lens.html

Perfect.

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Re: OT - Bojidar Nikonovich?

2008-02-15 Thread Cotty
On 16/02/08, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed:


This one is pretty good (I remember him from my LX days)
http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/nikon/nikkoresources/
AFNikkor/index.htm

For compatibility
http://www.nikonians.org/nikon/slr-lens.html

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Re: OT - Bojidar Nikonovich?

2008-02-15 Thread Cotty
On 15/02/08, Peter Fairweather, discombobulated, unleashed:

Three is always the great Nobel prizewinner himself!!

http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/compatibility-lens.htm

Actually that's not bad.

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Re: OT - Bojidar Nikonovich?

2008-02-15 Thread Peter Fairweather
Three is always the great Nobel prizewinner himself!!

http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/compatibility-lens.htm

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Breakthrough

2008-02-15 Thread Derby Chang
What do you guys think about this photoessay (and little accompanying 
behind the scenes) in the NYT?

http://aphotoeditor.com/2008/02/12/ny-times-magazine-oscars-photo-essay/

Julie Christie is still kinda hot, isn't she?

D

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PESO: Remersdael by night

2008-02-15 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Remersdael is located in the northeasternmost part of Belgium, a stone's
through from the Dutch border and only a few kilometers from the German
border. 

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/11841105

Fro all apparence, a very remote, quiet and peaceful spot NOT!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voeren

As always, your comments and suggestions... :-)

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Ok, I feel dumb (was BH Shipped me a K10D with Firmware Version 1.00)

2008-02-15 Thread Mark Erickson
Thanks guys.  I put 1.3 on the camera, did some basic brick wall tests, and
everything looks fine.

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Voigtländer Nokton 58mm f1.4 SLII

2008-02-15 Thread Jim King
For Bill Robb, here are a few test shots I made with this lens on my  
K10D this week.  It was really frigid outside so I didn't take as may  
as I would have liked to.  (I know, you Canadians aren't bothered by  
the cold like us mere mortals...)

http://www.pbase.com/jamesk8752/cv_58sl2

Looks pretty good to me - in brick wall tests (not posted) it seems to  
have better corners and less light fall-off wide open than the Pentax  
A50/1.4.  It's a beautifully made lens, a joy to use, but a lot bigger  
and heavier than the Pentax.

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Re: Breakthrough

2008-02-15 Thread John Coyle
Really like the photos and the accompanying commentary, but the intro text is 
badly written, IMO.  The pics certainly 
make a change from the usual red carpet grabs, or the heavily controlled 
publicity agent's output!  Interesting that you 
can't see all of the subject's face in some of them.


John Coyle
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Subject: Breakthrough


 What do you guys think about this photoessay (and little accompanying
 behind the scenes) in the NYT?

 http://aphotoeditor.com/2008/02/12/ny-times-magazine-oscars-photo-essay/

 Julie Christie is still kinda hot, isn't she?

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PESO: ...fastest acceptance into PPG ever (for me anyway)

2008-02-15 Thread Bong Manayon
The last time I had anything accepted in the Pentax Photo Gallery was
October last year; I submitted something like 6 sceneries and 3 got
accepted.  Since then I've submitted a couple of sunsets and sunrise
but they were declined.  Last Saturday (Feb 9), I took these and
submitted it later the day, it was approved by the following
Wednesday.

http://www.bong.uni.cc/peso/2008-09a.htm

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Re: PESO: ...fastest acceptance into PPG ever (for me anyway)

2008-02-15 Thread pnstenquist
And well they should be. Good work!
Paul
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 The last time I had anything accepted in the Pentax Photo Gallery was
 October last year; I submitted something like 6 sceneries and 3 got
 accepted.  Since then I've submitted a couple of sunsets and sunrise
 but they were declined.  Last Saturday (Feb 9), I took these and
 submitted it later the day, it was approved by the following
 Wednesday.
 
 http://www.bong.uni.cc/peso/2008-09a.htm
 
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Re: PESO: ...fastest acceptance into PPG ever (for me anyway)

2008-02-15 Thread Tim Bray
That's lovely.  -T

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Re: PESO: ...fastest acceptance into PPG ever (for me anyway)

2008-02-15 Thread Derby Chang
Bong Manayon wrote:
 The last time I had anything accepted in the Pentax Photo Gallery was
 October last year; I submitted something like 6 sceneries and 3 got
 accepted.  Since then I've submitted a couple of sunsets and sunrise
 but they were declined.  Last Saturday (Feb 9), I took these and
 submitted it later the day, it was approved by the following
 Wednesday.

 http://www.bong.uni.cc/peso/2008-09a.htm

   
Lovely. Nice catchlights in the eyes.

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Re: Stupid Windows Question

2008-02-15 Thread Mat Maessen
On 2/13/08, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thinking out loud time, would there be an advantage to having, for example,
 all the background services running on one CPU, and then having big
 applications like Photoshop running on the other one?

There are actually disadvantages to this approach, in that the
operating system is usually much better about delegating resources
than you could ever be. Remember also that any halfway recent version
of Photoshop is multiple-processor aware, and will run faster if it
has the resources of two processors to use.

That being said, on the servers that I admin (Sun Solaris). I can do
this. It's usually only done to keep a particular application from
swamping the box during periods of heavy load. If you do it wrong,
you end up bringing a lot of expensive hardware to its knees with
trivial tasks.

I can't answer the affinity question for Windows unfortunately.

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Re: BH Shipped me a K10D with Firmware Version 1.00

2008-02-15 Thread arcee

On Fri, 2008-02-15 at 19:00 +0100, Dario Bonazza wrote:
 Mark,
 
 AFAIK, all K10D's and all other Pentax cameras are manufactured with their 
 respective 1.00 firmware through their whole production and none of them has 
 got a newer release. All firmware releases higher than 1.00 must be loaded 
 by the user.
 So you have no clue for telling it's an early camera.
The serial number of the unit would hint as to the relative production
time. I don't think that the versions of Photo Browser and Photo Lab are
even the most current.


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Re: Breakthrough

2008-02-15 Thread Brendan MacRae
Those portraits are really bad. 

-Brendan

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 What do you guys think about this photoessay (and
 little accompanying 
 behind the scenes) in the NYT?
 

http://aphotoeditor.com/2008/02/12/ny-times-magazine-oscars-photo-essay/
 
 Julie Christie is still kinda hot, isn't she?
 
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Re: OT - Bojidar Nikonovich?

2008-02-15 Thread P. J. Alling
Looks like useful information.  Broken clock syndrome.

Peter Fairweather wrote:
 Three is always the great Nobel prizewinner himself!!

 http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/compatibility-lens.htm

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Re: PESO: ...fastest acceptance into PPG ever (for me anyway)

2008-02-15 Thread Jack Davis
They made a good choice. FTR, I gave it a yes.
I, also, just had a couple accepted this past week and in a relatively
brief time. One accepted a couple weeks ago must have taken three
weeks. Holiday back-up possibly.(?)

Jack
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 The last time I had anything accepted in the Pentax Photo Gallery was
 October last year; I submitted something like 6 sceneries and 3 got
 accepted.  Since then I've submitted a couple of sunsets and sunrise
 but they were declined.  Last Saturday (Feb 9), I took these and
 submitted it later the day, it was approved by the following
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 http://www.bong.uni.cc/peso/2008-09a.htm
 
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Re: Remersdael by night

2008-02-15 Thread Christine Aguila
Ralf:  That's lovely.  I really love your work.  Cheers, Christine


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Subject: PESO: Remersdael by night


Remersdael is located in the northeasternmost part of Belgium, a stone's
through from the Dutch border and only a few kilometers from the German
border.

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/11841105

Fro all apparence, a very remote, quiet and peaceful spot NOT!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voeren

As always, your comments and suggestions... :-)

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Re: ...fastest acceptance into PPG ever (for me anyway)

2008-02-15 Thread Christine Aguila
Congrats, Bong, and the portraits are lovely.  Cheers, Christine


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 The last time I had anything accepted in the Pentax Photo Gallery was
 October last year; I submitted something like 6 sceneries and 3 got
 accepted.  Since then I've submitted a couple of sunsets and sunrise
 but they were declined.  Last Saturday (Feb 9), I took these and
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 http://www.bong.uni.cc/peso/2008-09a.htm

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Re: PESO - Swinging (with a Brownie Surprise)

2008-02-15 Thread Christine Aguila
Thanks for the links, Scott.  Cheers, Christine


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 Christine Aguila wrote:
 Scott: I was just reading an article in Photolife about toy cameras. 
 Then
 you posted your really sweet photo Swinging.  Then I read Peter's post 
 about
 the Brownie Camera.  Then I had a flash from the past  was pretty sure I
 had a Brownie.  Then I started digging around in messy closets in the 
 house.
 Then I found the following:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6951593size=lg

 Then--I opened the camera (took me a while to figure that out).  Then I
 found this:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6951597size=lg

 I do know I didn't shoot that film.  Looks like the camera takes 127 
 film.
 Do you think I can still buy film for this camera?  I'll be out-and-about
 with errands tomorrow.  Do ya think I'll be stopping at the camera shop?

 I'd do a few Google searches for places that specialize in processing
 expired film.  There are a few threads at photo.net about this sort of
 thing.

 As far as I know, Efke R100 (BW) is about the only film still available
 in 127.  BH and Freestyle both carry it.  About $5/roll.

 http://www.freestylephoto.biz/sc_prod.php?cat_id=pid=101827

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Re: PESO - Swinging (with a Brownie Surprise)

2008-02-15 Thread Christine Aguila
Thanks for the links, Peter.  Cheers, Christine


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Subject: Re: PESO - Swinging (with a Brownie Surprise)


 Film for Classics carries 127 film but it ain't cheap.

 http://www.filmforclassics.com/html/printable_order_form.htm

 The frugal photographer carries only color film for a bit less

 http://www.frugalphotographer.com/cat127.htm

 I think BH photo has it as well, but I haven't looked there in ages.
 I don't have a 127 camera that's special enough to pay a minimum of $7
 plus processing for 8 shots, (maybe if I had a baby Rollie but my
 Bakelite brownie isn't that great).  It's funny but now it's less
 expensive to shoot 120 than 127.


 Christine Aguila wrote:
 Scott: I was just reading an article in Photolife about toy cameras. 
 Then
 you posted your really sweet photo Swinging.  Then I read Peter's post 
 about
 the Brownie Camera.  Then I had a flash from the past  was pretty sure I
 had a Brownie.  Then I started digging around in messy closets in the 
 house.
 Then I found the following:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6951593size=lg

 Then--I opened the camera (took me a while to figure that out).  Then I
 found this:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6951597size=lg

 I do know I didn't shoot that film.  Looks like the camera takes 127 
 film.
 Do you think I can still buy film for this camera?  I'll be out-and-about
 with errands tomorrow.  Do ya think I'll be stopping at the camera shop?

 Cheers,  Christine



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 I've been staring at this one for a while, and I'm still not sure if I
 like it.  So I thought I'd let the collective make up my mind for me.
 ;)
 http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/MeganAndMolly/photo#5154404518927952050

 Holga, some cheap Eastern Bloc film that won't lay flat, f8 @ 1/60 (give
 or take).

 Thanks!

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Re: OT - Bojidar Nikonovich?

2008-02-15 Thread Derby Chang
Adam Maas wrote:
 On 2/15/08, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Cotty wrote:
   Sorry if this is brain fade time - I may have asked this question here 
 before.
  
   Can anyone recommend a web site (maybe like Boz's Pentax site) that
   defines old and new Nikon/Nikkor offerings - particularly what will and
   will not work on modern Nikon DSLR cameras? I would like to hunt for a
   present for someone, a wide prime and need a starting point.
  
   Many thanks.
  
  
  


 This one is pretty good (I remember him from my LX days)
  
 http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/nikon/nikkoresources/AFNikkor/index.htm

  For compatibility

 http://www.nikonians.org/nikon/slr-lens.html


 D
 

 The MIR site is the reference I normally use. Its better for the
 bodies than the lenses, but has lots of lens info too.

 As a general rule, the consumer Nikon DSLR's only meter with AF lenses
 and only mount AI and later lenses (or lenses with a factory AI
 conversion ring). The D200/D300 and the pro bodies also meter with AI
 and later lenses. There are a few exceptions to the AF-only rule (The
 new PC-E lenses, the 85 Micro PC, the 3 AI-P lenses and the new
 Voightlander SLII lenses, which are all manual focus but will meter
 with all Nikon DSLR's). But for wide primes, you've really just got
 the 20/2.8 and 24/2.8 AF or AF-D's (the slow 28's aren't all that
 great, although the AF-D version is at least competent, the 28/1.4 is
 rare and very expensive).

   


I love the simplicity of the K-mount.

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Re: OT - Bojidar Nikonovich?

2008-02-15 Thread Adam Maas
On 2/15/08, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Cotty wrote:
   Sorry if this is brain fade time - I may have asked this question here 
 before.
  
   Can anyone recommend a web site (maybe like Boz's Pentax site) that
   defines old and new Nikon/Nikkor offerings - particularly what will and
   will not work on modern Nikon DSLR cameras? I would like to hunt for a
   present for someone, a wide prime and need a starting point.
  
   Many thanks.
  
  
  


 This one is pretty good (I remember him from my LX days)
  
 http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/nikon/nikkoresources/AFNikkor/index.htm

  For compatibility

 http://www.nikonians.org/nikon/slr-lens.html


 D

The MIR site is the reference I normally use. Its better for the
bodies than the lenses, but has lots of lens info too.

As a general rule, the consumer Nikon DSLR's only meter with AF lenses
and only mount AI and later lenses (or lenses with a factory AI
conversion ring). The D200/D300 and the pro bodies also meter with AI
and later lenses. There are a few exceptions to the AF-only rule (The
new PC-E lenses, the 85 Micro PC, the 3 AI-P lenses and the new
Voightlander SLII lenses, which are all manual focus but will meter
with all Nikon DSLR's). But for wide primes, you've really just got
the 20/2.8 and 24/2.8 AF or AF-D's (the slow 28's aren't all that
great, although the AF-D version is at least competent, the 28/1.4 is
rare and very expensive).

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Explorations of the City Around Us.

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Re: PESO: ...fastest acceptance into PPG ever (for me anyway)

2008-02-15 Thread David Savage
A worthy entry to the gallery.

I had a shot very quickly accepted this week also (my Pinnacles PESO)
I submitted it Tuesday evening  it was approved by Thursday evening.

Certainly a record for me.

Cheers,

Dave

On Sat, Feb 16, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Bong Manayon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The last time I had anything accepted in the Pentax Photo Gallery was
  October last year; I submitted something like 6 sceneries and 3 got
  accepted.  Since then I've submitted a couple of sunsets and sunrise
  but they were declined.  Last Saturday (Feb 9), I took these and
  submitted it later the day, it was approved by the following
  Wednesday.

  http://www.bong.uni.cc/peso/2008-09a.htm

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RE: PESO: ...fastest acceptance into PPG ever (for me anyway)

2008-02-15 Thread Bob W
They are beautiful pictures - they wouldn't look out of place in a set
of Steve McCurry's portraits in my opinion.

Bob 

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 Subject: PESO: ...fastest acceptance into PPG ever (for me anyway)
 
 The last time I had anything accepted in the Pentax Photo Gallery
was
 October last year; I submitted something like 6 sceneries and 3 got
 accepted.  Since then I've submitted a couple of sunsets and sunrise
 but they were declined.  Last Saturday (Feb 9), I took these and
 submitted it later the day, it was approved by the following
 Wednesday.
 
 http://www.bong.uni.cc/peso/2008-09a.htm
 
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