PESO: Propeller

2008-05-13 Thread Tim Bray
With amusing visual clutter.  Blog context:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2008/05/13/Propeller

Just the picture:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2008/05/13/-big/PS080657.jpg

Mmm K20 .  -T

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Re: K20D Hot Pixels

2008-05-13 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/05/12 Mon PM 07:21:36 GMT
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 Subject: Re: Re: K20D Hot Pixels
 
 Zombie pixels

So they are only brain dead?  Do they attack live pixels?

 
 On 5/11/08, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   The problem that DPReview is having is that they have recieved a couple 
   of cameras which have
mobile dead pixels.
 
 
  Interesting.  So they are, in fact, not dead.  There is some other reason 
  for the misbehaviour.  I do wonder what it could be.
 
 
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RE: Can you identify this bush for me?

2008-05-13 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/05/12 Mon PM 08:37:19 GMT
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 Subject: RE: Can you identify this bush for me?
 
 Happy to help.
 
 By coincidence I came across this picture, which is similar to but
 better than mine, a few minutes ago:
 http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/33454,arts,landscape-views,5
 
 It is captioned as ragwort, but I'm sure that can't be right. I've
 certainly never seen ragwort growing in such quantities - it's quite a
 dangerous plant, although very nice to look at. 
 
 Bob

By photographic law oilseed fields only have single trees, on the skyline.  
Must be something else.

 
  
  Yes that is definitely the stuff I saw in the cultivated fields.
  
  Thanks again, Bob.
  
  Dan M
  
  On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   The mystery bush is gorse (ulex). I'm surprised no-one 
  could identify
it - it's very common.
  
Perhaps the yellow stuff in the fields was oilseed rape. 
  Did it look
like this:
http://www.web-options.com/Byway/content/_6215853_large.html
  
Bob
 
 
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Re: PESO: Propeller

2008-05-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Very cool image!

G

On May 13, 2008, at 1:22 AM, Tim Bray wrote:

 With amusing visual clutter.  Blog context:
 http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2008/05/13/Propeller

 Just the picture:
 http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2008/05/13/-big/PS080657.jpg


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Re: Can you identify this bush for me?

2008-05-13 Thread AlunFoto
2008/5/13 mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/33454,arts,landscape-views,5

 By photographic law oilseed fields only have single trees, on the skyline.  
 Must be something else.

This is just the pictorialist edition.

Jostein


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OT: That was money well spent

2008-05-13 Thread David Savage
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1901656/OGC-unveils-new-logo-to-red-faces.html

Cheers,

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Re: PESO: Speed

2008-05-13 Thread AlunFoto
Is that an OGC?

Jostein


2008/5/6 David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 G'day All,

 The boss treated us to an afternoon of go karting today  I took this
 on the way back from the track (~80kb)

 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2034/2470123863_bb14afec4e_o.jpg

 K20D, DA* 16-50mm f2.8 @ 50mm, 1/4 @ f9.0, ISO 100.

 Any  all comments welcome.

 Cheers,

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Re: PESO: Speed

2008-05-13 Thread David Savage
HAR!

Cheers,

Dave

2008/5/13 AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Is that an OGC?

  Jostein


  2008/5/6 David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


  G'day All,
  
   The boss treated us to an afternoon of go karting today  I took this
   on the way back from the track (~80kb)
  
   http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2034/2470123863_bb14afec4e_o.jpg
  
   K20D, DA* 16-50mm f2.8 @ 50mm, 1/4 @ f9.0, ISO 100.
  
   Any  all comments welcome.
  
   Cheers,
  
   Dave

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Re: OT: That was money well spent

2008-05-13 Thread Brian Walters
They’re going to get more column inches than they could ever have
expected.

Yes - that's pretty obvious.



Cheers

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On Tue, 13 May 2008 18:12:48 +0800, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1901656/OGC-unveils-new-logo-to-red-faces.html
 
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Re: K10D Repair Estimate

2008-05-13 Thread David J Brooks
My 2 year warranty runs out in Dec, so i'm hoping my snag gets fixed
before then.:-)

But yes, ouch thats a bit.

Luckely all of the D2H problems were under warranty, but if they were
not, it would have cost around $1600 in total for the fixes.

Dave

On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 6:39 AM, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Stiff, indeed.
  2 years warranty in Europe has something good.

  This could act as a wrning for those europeans wanting to buy cheaper
  in the US. Pentax will honor the one year waranty AFAIK, but one year
  only of course.

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Re: OT: That was money well spent

2008-05-13 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1901656/OGC-
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...a firm grip...

YMMD

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Re: K10D Repair Estimate

2008-05-13 Thread Thibouille
Stiff, indeed.
2 years warranty in Europe has something good.

This could act as a wrning for those europeans wanting to buy cheaper
in the US. Pentax will honor the one year waranty AFAIK, but one year
only of course.

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Re: OT: That was money well spent

2008-05-13 Thread Mark Roberts
David Savage wrote:
 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1901656/OGC-unveils-new-logo-to-red-faces.html

There's some thing funny about that logo...

...I just quite can't put my finger on it.


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PESO - Lucky on the Main Street Bus

2008-05-13 Thread frank theriault
Lucky and his human, out on the town:

http://tinyurl.com/4jjd5c

http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SCg3xfBRq1I/CAQ/FMmUGX68M3M/s1600-h/may_12_08+003.jpg

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OT: Signs of the Times

2008-05-13 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Another unusual sign from my recent trip to Ireland, advising the
public to avoid angry persons:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7248647

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Re: K10D Repair Estimate

2008-05-13 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: David J Brooks
Subject: Re: K10D Repair Estimate


 My 2 year warranty runs out in Dec, so i'm hoping my snag gets fixed
 before then.:-)


I don't know how it works elsewhere, but my understanding under Canadian 
consumer law is that an 
unresolved warranty issue that goes out of the warranty time limit still must 
be dealt with 
under warranty.

William Robb 


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Re: Screwdriver

2008-05-13 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Ken Waller 
Subject: Re: Screwdriver



 
 So to clarify -- you didn't get screwed?

 No Ann, it appears he bolted.

 Terrible behavior for such a stud, eh?

 Oh nuts.

 Nothing but torque, torque, torque...

 Okay, now we need another thread.

 I think you've hit the nail on the head there.

 But he's been stripped of all credibility.

 I knew the drill when I made the first pun

 Well, we'll just chuck this entire thread.

Yes, it is getting boring.

 I'm going hone.

 You are too sharp for me.

 I have to admit its been a grind for me.

 I thought it would whet your appetite for more.

 We'd better stop or sparks will fly.

 What? You'll lose your temper?

 I was going to tap myself and join in, but I think my contribution would 
 be
 too plane.
 
 Oh, just steel yourself  go ahead.

Easy for you to say. Are you sure he has the mettle for it?

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OT: Enablement Gone Wild -- a Gigapixel Camera

2008-05-13 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
You call that a camera?  That's not a camera,  THIS is a camera:

http://www.gigapxl.org/gallery.htm

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Re: PESO 2008 - 80, 81 - GDG

2008-05-13 Thread Fernando
I like a lot The Lonely Life 2, at first I thought it was some
selective color photo (yikes) but then I see that is just some low
saturation (right?). Anyway, nice.

On 5/13/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At the theatre for the Bette Davis Film Festival ...

   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/80-lonely_life.jpg
   The Lonely Life - Stanford Theater 2008
   ISO 1600 @ f/2.8 @ 1/4 second

   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/81-lonely_life2.jpg
   The Lonely Life 2 - Stanford Theater 2008
   ISO 1600 @ f/2.8 @ 1/2 second

 Both made with the Panasonic L1 fitted with Olympus ZD 25mm f/2.8 lens.

 Comments and critique always appreciated.

 enjoy
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Re: PESO - Lucky on the Main Street Bus

2008-05-13 Thread Jack Davis
Lucky seems to be reassuring his human that all is OK. Good one!
Very nice conversion.

Jack


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 Subject: PESO - Lucky on the Main Street Bus
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 Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2008, 5:25 AM
 Lucky and his human, out on the town:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/4jjd5c
 
 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SCg3xfBRq1I/CAQ/FMmUGX68M3M/s1600-h/may_12_08+003.jpg
 
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PESO 2008 - 80, 81 - GDG

2008-05-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
At the theatre for the Bette Davis Film Festival ...

   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/80-lonely_life.jpg
   The Lonely Life - Stanford Theater 2008
   ISO 1600 @ f/2.8 @ 1/4 second

   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/81-lonely_life2.jpg
   The Lonely Life 2 - Stanford Theater 2008
   ISO 1600 @ f/2.8 @ 1/2 second

Both made with the Panasonic L1 fitted with Olympus ZD 25mm f/2.8 lens.

Comments and critique always appreciated.

enjoy
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PESO 2008 - 80, 81 - GDG

2008-05-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
At the theatre for the Bette Davis Film Festival ...

   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/80-lonely_life.jpg
   The Lonely Life - Stanford Theater 2008
   ISO 1600 @ f/2.8 @ 1/4 second

   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/81-lonely_life2.jpg
   The Lonely Life 2 - Stanford Theater 2008
   ISO 1600 @ f/2.8 @ 1/2 second

Both made with the Panasonic L1 fitted with Olympus ZD 25mm f/2.8 lens.

Comments and critique always appreciated.

enjoy
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Re: K20D Hot Pixels

2008-05-13 Thread P. J. Alling
Funny,

Here's what bugs me about this entire discussion.  It's been suspected 
that Nikon, Canon, Sony and Olympus all so some kind of pre-processing 
to their RAW files.  So in other words RAW for them isn't really raw.  
It's just possible that all CMOS chips exhibit this kind of behavior, in 
fact most implementations of CCD chips may as well, especially if most 
manufacturers are applying some sort preprocessing before presenting the 
RAW data.  The fact is only two testing sites observed this, one who's 
results are highly suspect as they fly in the face of everyone else's 
impressions,  and another who IMHO doesn't really know how to do an 
unbiased test.   Most other testers didn't and even gave the K20D kudos 
for it's fine resolution, and high ISO performance.  The only people who 
should be inconvenienced by this would seem to me to be amateur 
astro-photographers, and they should probably be using glass plates 
anyway if they care about not getting spurious data.

Gonz wrote:
 Zombie pixels

 On 5/11/08, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
  
   From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
 The problem that DPReview is having is that they have recieved a couple of 
 cameras which have
   
   mobile dead pixels.


 Interesting.  So they are, in fact, not dead.  There is some other reason 
 for the misbehaviour.  I do wonder what it could be.


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Re: PESO - Skatepunks

2008-05-13 Thread P. J. Alling
He's a bit big don't you think someone would notice, (his parents surely...)

Paul Sorenson wrote:
 A little judicious cutting  pasting and he could be made to disappear...

 -p

 Cotty wrote:
   
 On 12/5/08, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

 
 Okay, they aren't really punks, but I couldn't call it what I wanted
 to, being that this is a family list:  skatef**ks:

 http://tinyurl.com/3j7wxb

 http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SCg6APBRq4I/CAo/l-KsDMr8Btc/
 s1600-h/may_12_08+005.jpg

 Comments welcome.
   
 That's a lovely shot Frank but oh boy, if youth on right was not there,
 it would be a great one ;-)

 


   


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Re: PESO: Propeller

2008-05-13 Thread Boris Liberman
It would fit very nicely with the cover of a sci fi book.

Nicely done.

Boris


Tim Bray wrote:
 With amusing visual clutter.  Blog context:
 http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2008/05/13/Propeller
 
 Just the picture:
 http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2008/05/13/-big/PS080657.jpg
 
 Mmm K20 .  -T
 


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Re: PESO -- Chick's Drive Inn

2008-05-13 Thread David J Brooks
I like thi sshot.

Good exposure and colour and cluttered in a good way, if that makes sense.

Dave

On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 6:29 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A shot from inside a local, (relatively at least), seafood shack.
  Chick's has a great location, right across the road from the West Haven
  beach.  They do a land office business in over priced greasy fried
  fish.  They sell a lot of 'Dogs' too.

  http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/PESO%20--%20chicksdriveinn.html

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Re: PESO: Wedding Tango

2008-05-13 Thread David J Brooks
A great shot, none the less. Thye look like they are enjoying
themselves, dispite the weather.

Ours was Who's sorry now.:-)

Dave

On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Not a perfect image, but...

  
 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2008/fiona_wedding/content/IMGP8431_large.html

  My daughter had scheduled (last August!) an outdoor wedding for the
  only day in the week on which it rained ALL DAY.  We had a roof for
  the reception, but no walls.

  For the first dance she and her hubby danced to Tom Lehrer's
  Masochism Tango.  It was great.

   -Charles

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Re: K10D Repair Estimate

2008-05-13 Thread David J Brooks
Not the case with my 1987 Chevy 4x4, i'm afraid.:-)

But.

I hope this does not take the rest of the year. I would like to try
and use the K10D and 60-250, when it arrives for my horse shows.



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   My 2 year warranty runs out in Dec, so i'm hoping my snag gets fixed
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Re: PESO - Lucky on the Main Street Bus

2008-05-13 Thread David J Brooks
Looks like you forgot to ask some one permission.LOL

Good shot and conversion Frank

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 Lucky and his human, out on the town:

  http://tinyurl.com/4jjd5c

  
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Re: PESO - Skatepunks

2008-05-13 Thread David J Brooks
One of the better ones Frank.

The bill board sign really works her.

Dave

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 Okay, they aren't really punks, but I couldn't call it what I wanted
  to, being that this is a family list:  skatef**ks:

  http://tinyurl.com/3j7wxb

  
 http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SCg6APBRq4I/CAo/l-KsDMr8Btc/s1600-h/may_12_08+005.jpg

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Re: PESO - Skatepunks

2008-05-13 Thread Paul Sorenson
He's just be Hoffa-ized...to an unknown destination   ;}

-p

P. J. Alling wrote:
 He's a bit big don't you think someone would notice, (his parents surely...)
 
 Paul Sorenson wrote:
 A little judicious cutting  pasting and he could be made to disappear...

 -p

 Cotty wrote:
   
 On 12/5/08, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

 
 Okay, they aren't really punks, but I couldn't call it what I wanted
 to, being that this is a family list:  skatef**ks:

 http://tinyurl.com/3j7wxb

 http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SCg6APBRq4I/CAo/l-KsDMr8Btc/
 s1600-h/may_12_08+005.jpg

 Comments welcome.
   
 That's a lovely shot Frank but oh boy, if youth on right was not there,
 it would be a great one ;-)

 

   
 
 


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PESO: On the Road in Ireland

2008-05-13 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
As is the case in Montana and Hawaii, cattle seem to have the right of
way on roads in Ireland.

From my recent trip to Ireland and Northern Ireland, a traffic jam on
a highway near Birr:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7248607
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another for annsan

2008-05-13 Thread Brendan MacRae
I was headed over to Death Valley this last weekend
for a magazine shoot when I saw this one and had to
stop. Just on the north side of Bishop, CA on old Hwy
395:


http://www.primelensphoto.com/Blow_Out!/large-1.html

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Re: OT: That was money well spent

2008-05-13 Thread P. J. Alling
Having worked for a corporation that spend 10's of thousands of dollars 
for a new logo that ended up looking like a Nike® swoosh,  I don't feel 
their pain.  ROTFLMAO  :-D  

David Savage wrote:
 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1901656/OGC-unveils-new-logo-to-red-faces.html

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Re: OT: That was money well spent

2008-05-13 Thread ann sanfedele
Mark Roberts wrote:

David Savage wrote:
  

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1901656/OGC-unveils-new-logo-to-red-faces.html



There's some thing funny about that logo...

...I just quite can't put my finger on it.


  

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Re: OT: That was money well spent

2008-05-13 Thread P. J. Alling
You've got to hand it to the British press...

Brian Walters wrote:
 They’re going to get more column inches than they could ever have
 expected.

 Yes - that's pretty obvious.



 Cheers

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Re: PESO - Lucky on the Main Street Bus

2008-05-13 Thread P. J. Alling
Nice rendering, I don't think they'll let dogs on buses around here.  
Which pretty much means dogs will always have cars.

frank theriault wrote:
 Lucky and his human, out on the town:

 http://tinyurl.com/4jjd5c

 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SCg3xfBRq1I/CAQ/FMmUGX68M3M/s1600-h/may_12_08+003.jpg

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Re: another for annsan

2008-05-13 Thread P. J. Alling
Sort of off topic but do you think that Homer works there?

Brendan MacRae wrote:
 I was headed over to Death Valley this last weekend
 for a magazine shoot when I saw this one and had to
 stop. Just on the north side of Bishop, CA on old Hwy
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 http://www.primelensphoto.com/Blow_Out!/large-1.html

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Re: OT: That was money well spent

2008-05-13 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 12:38 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Having worked for a corporation that spend 10's of thousands of dollars
  for a new logo that ended up looking like a Nike(R) swoosh,  I don't feel
  their pain.  ROTFLMAO  :-D

You were with CGI?

I know their logo is very swoosh-like.

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Re: PESO -- Chick's Drive Inn

2008-05-13 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 6:29 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A shot from inside a local, (relatively at least), seafood shack.
  Chick's has a great location, right across the road from the West Haven
  beach.  They do a land office business in over priced greasy fried
  fish.  They sell a lot of 'Dogs' too.

  http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/PESO%20--%20chicksdriveinn.html

  Equipment:  Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax 17mm f4.0 Fisheye

  Notes:  Defished using an old version of PTLens Perspective corrected
  slightly.  (Canon Digital Rebel extra, not included where prohibited by
  law).

I like this.  Makes me feel like I'm right there - wonderful photo!

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Microsoft and Hoya Pentax join forces.

2008-05-13 Thread Adam Maas
http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/microsoft_and_hoya_pentax_join_forces/

Does this mean the K30D will bluescreen?

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Re: PESO 2008 - 80, 81 - GDG

2008-05-13 Thread John Graves
Godfrey,

I don't know why, but I got sense of spatial disorientation on #1, 
almost Escherist.  I think it is the way the backs are brighter than the 
seats.   Having said all that, I think #1 is more interesting than #2.

Nice pictures

John G

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 At the theatre for the Bette Davis Film Festival ...

http://homepage.mac.com/godders/80-lonely_life.jpg
The Lonely Life - Stanford Theater 2008
ISO 1600 @ f/2.8 @ 1/4 second

http://homepage.mac.com/godders/81-lonely_life2.jpg
The Lonely Life 2 - Stanford Theater 2008
ISO 1600 @ f/2.8 @ 1/2 second

 Both made with the Panasonic L1 fitted with Olympus ZD 25mm f/2.8 lens.

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 enjoy
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Re: K20D Hot Pixels

2008-05-13 Thread Bob Sullivan
Personally, I put it to the particle vs wave nature of light.
Sometimes an extra photon or two falls into a sensor's bucket... sometimes none.
It's all just the quantum mechanics effects.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 10:50 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Funny,

 Here's what bugs me about this entire discussion.  It's been suspected
 that Nikon, Canon, Sony and Olympus all so some kind of pre-processing
 to their RAW files.  So in other words RAW for them isn't really raw.
 It's just possible that all CMOS chips exhibit this kind of behavior, in
 fact most implementations of CCD chips may as well, especially if most
 manufacturers are applying some sort preprocessing before presenting the
 RAW data.  The fact is only two testing sites observed this, one who's
 results are highly suspect as they fly in the face of everyone else's
 impressions,  and another who IMHO doesn't really know how to do an
 unbiased test.   Most other testers didn't and even gave the K20D kudos
 for it's fine resolution, and high ISO performance.  The only people who
 should be inconvenienced by this would seem to me to be amateur
 astro-photographers, and they should probably be using glass plates
 anyway if they care about not getting spurious data.

 Gonz wrote:
  Zombie pixels
 
  On 5/11/08, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  The problem that DPReview is having is that they have recieved a couple 
  of cameras which have
 
mobile dead pixels.
 
 
  Interesting.  So they are, in fact, not dead.  There is some other reason 
  for the misbehaviour.  I do wonder what it could be.
 
 
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Re: PESO: On the Road in Ireland

2008-05-13 Thread Bob Sullivan
Error - server is unavailable on these Dan.  Regards,  Bob S.

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As is the case in Montana and Hawaii, cattle seem to have the right of
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 From my recent trip to Ireland and Northern Ireland, a traffic jam on
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Re: Microsoft and Hoya Pentax join forces.

2008-05-13 Thread Bruce Walker
Adam Maas wrote:
 http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/microsoft_and_hoya_pentax_join_forces/

 Does this mean the K30D will bluescreen?
   

Yes.  In addition, it will arrive quite a few years after promised, 
stripped of most of the hoped-for new features. It will also be slower 
than the K20D and none of the existing lenses will fit it.

However it will be painted in bright primary colours and have the 
ability to appear semi-translucent when you adjust a large dial on the back.

And the on/off button will have been re-labeled Start.

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Re: Can you identify this bush for me?

2008-05-13 Thread drew
mike wilson wrote:

 
 By photographic law oilseed fields only have single trees, on the skyline.  
 Must be something else.
 

How about a lone man on the skyline...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rileyelf/2464453249/

:-)
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Re: Microsoft and Hoya Pentax join forces.

2008-05-13 Thread John Whittingham
On Tue, 13 May 2008 14:46:37 -0400, Bruce Walker wrote
 Adam Maas wrote:
  
http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/microsoft_and_hoya_pe
ntax_join_forces/
 
  Does this mean the K30D will bluescreen?
 
 
 Yes.  In addition, it will arrive quite a few years after promised, 
 stripped of most of the hoped-for new features. It will also be 
 slower than the K20D and none of the existing lenses will fit it.
 
 However it will be painted in bright primary colours and have the 
 ability to appear semi-translucent when you adjust a large dial on 
 the back.
 
 And the on/off button will have been re-labeled Start.
 
 -bmw

You'll also have to switch the camera off and back on again every time you 
alter something in the settings menu 8)

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Re: Microsoft and Hoya Pentax join forces.

2008-05-13 Thread Matthew Hunt
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  You'll also have to switch the camera off and back on again every time you
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Re: Microsoft and Hoya Pentax join forces.

2008-05-13 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Adam Maas
Subject: Microsoft and Hoya Pentax join forces.


 http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/microsoft_and_hoya_pentax_join_forces/

 Does this mean the K30D will bluescreen?

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Re: Microsoft and Hoya Pentax join forces.

2008-05-13 Thread drew
Matthew Hunt wrote:
 On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 2:52 PM, John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  You'll also have to switch the camera off and back on again every time you
  alter something in the settings menu 8)
 
 And when you buy a new lens, you'll get a message that says, The
 camera has detected new hardware, and it will ask you to insert a CD
 with drivers.
 
Then phone Pentax customer support in Japan for an authorization code 
because they fear you might be using the camera without a license
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Re: Microsoft and Hoya Pentax join forces.

2008-05-13 Thread John Whittingham
On Tue, 13 May 2008 20:00:05 +0100, drew wrote
 Matthew Hunt wrote:
  On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 2:52 PM, John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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   You'll also have to switch the camera off and back on again every time 
you
   alter something in the settings menu 8)
  
  And when you buy a new lens, you'll get a message that says, The
  camera has detected new hardware, and it will ask you to insert a CD
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 Then phone Pentax customer support in Japan for an authorization 
 code because they fear you might be using the camera without a license
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Then the lens police will come knocking every time it performs an illegal 
operation.

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Re: Microsoft and Hoya Pentax join forces.

2008-05-13 Thread drew
John Whittingham wrote:
 On Tue, 13 May 2008 20:00:05 +0100, drew wrote
 Matthew Hunt wrote:
 On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 2:52 PM, John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  You'll also have to switch the camera off and back on again every time 
 you
  alter something in the settings menu 8)
 And when you buy a new lens, you'll get a message that says, The
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 with drivers.

 Then phone Pentax customer support in Japan for an authorization 
 code because they fear you might be using the camera without a license
 Drew
 
 Then the lens police will come knocking every time it performs an illegal 
 operation.
 
 John

and Microsoft/hoya will claim ownership of all images created with their 
products because you didn't see the clause in the license agreement...

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Re: Microsoft and Hoya Pentax join forces.

2008-05-13 Thread Bruce Walker
John Whittingham wrote:
 On Tue, 13 May 2008 20:00:05 +0100, drew wrote
   
 Then phone Pentax customer support in Japan for an authorization 
 code because they fear you might be using the camera without a license
 Drew
 

 Then the lens police will come knocking every time it performs an illegal 
 operation.
   

The shutter release will stick if you focus on any scene that has ever 
been photographed and printed before.

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Re: Microsoft and Hoya Pentax join forces.

2008-05-13 Thread Mark Roberts
Adam Maas wrote:
 http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/microsoft_and_hoya_pentax_join_forces/

Any guesses as to which Pentax patents Microsoft is interested in?
Here's mine: The horizontally-sliding lens design of the Altoids tin 
Optio cameras.

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Re: Microsoft and Hoya Pentax join forces.

2008-05-13 Thread John Whittingham
On Tue, 13 May 2008 15:10:18 -0400, Bruce Walker wrote
 John Whittingham wrote:
  On Tue, 13 May 2008 20:00:05 +0100, drew wrote

  Then phone Pentax customer support in Japan for an authorization 
  code because they fear you might be using the camera without a 
license
  Drew
  
 
  Then the lens police will come knocking every time it performs an illegal 
  operation.
 
 
 The shutter release will stick if you focus on any scene that has 
 ever been photographed and printed before.
 
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Every time you format your memory card it will ask...Are you sure? 
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Re: PESO 2008 - 80, 81 - GDG

2008-05-13 Thread Charles Robinson
On May 13, 2008, at 9:46, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 At the theatre for the Bette Davis Film Festival ...

   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/80-lonely_life.jpg
   The Lonely Life - Stanford Theater 2008
   ISO 1600 @ f/2.8 @ 1/4 second

   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/81-lonely_life2.jpg
   The Lonely Life 2 - Stanford Theater 2008
   ISO 1600 @ f/2.8 @ 1/2 second


Neither of them really work for me.  Maybe one reason is that I see  
people sitting with each other (thus negating the lonely part of the  
titles).

Other than that... nope, well there really isn't anything which  
catches my eye this time.  :-(

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Re: Microsoft and Hoya Pentax join forces.

2008-05-13 Thread John Whittingham
On Tue, 13 May 2008 15:10:18 -0400, Bruce Walker wrote
 John Whittingham wrote:
  On Tue, 13 May 2008 20:00:05 +0100, drew wrote

  Then phone Pentax customer support in Japan for an authorization 
  code because they fear you might be using the camera without a 
license
  Drew
  
 
  Then the lens police will come knocking every time it performs an illegal 
  operation.
 
 
 The shutter release will stick if you focus on any scene that has 
 ever been photographed and printed before.
 
 -bmw


At least once a year the camera will fail to power up and you'll have to 
start it from a bootable SD card.

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Re: PESO 2008 - 80, 81 - GDG

2008-05-13 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At the theatre for the Bette Davis Film Festival ...

http://homepage.mac.com/godders/80-lonely_life.jpg
The Lonely Life - Stanford Theater 2008
ISO 1600 @ f/2.8 @ 1/4 second

http://homepage.mac.com/godders/81-lonely_life2.jpg
The Lonely Life 2 - Stanford Theater 2008
ISO 1600 @ f/2.8 @ 1/2 second

  Both made with the Panasonic L1 fitted with Olympus ZD 25mm f/2.8 lens.

  Comments and critique always appreciated.


I like the first better than the second.  It feels more intimate,
almost voyeuristic.

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Re: Microsoft and Hoya Pentax join forces.

2008-05-13 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/microsoft_and_hoya_pentax_join_forces/

  Does this mean the K30D will bluescreen?

But according to Dave Brook's rumour posted from DPreview yesterday,
Pentax is heading into oblivion.

Why would MS be interested in a sinking company?

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Re: Microsoft and Hoya Pentax join forces.

2008-05-13 Thread Steve Desjardins
It means that Pentax Technical support will now tell you absolutely true
things that are totally useless in solving your problem.
 
I really want the Cotty Reply to this one.

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Does this mean the K30D will bluescreen?

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Re: Microsoft and Hoya Pentax join forces.

2008-05-13 Thread Steve Desjardins
Or maybe the IS algorithms so when you get mad and start shaking your
monitor.

 Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/13/08 1:46 PM 
http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/microsoft_and_hoya_pentax_join_forces/

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Re: Microsoft and Hoya Pentax join forces.

2008-05-13 Thread John Whittingham
On Tue, 13 May 2008 16:00:36 -0400, Steve Desjardins wrote
 Or maybe the IS algorithms so when you get mad and start shaking your
 monitor.
 
  Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/13/08 1:46 PM 
 
http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/microsoft_and_hoya_pe
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 Does this mean the K30D will bluescreen?

They'll change the menu appearance and structure every couple of years until 
it's completely FUBAR

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Re: Microsoft and Hoya Pentax join forces.

2008-05-13 Thread Adam Maas
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 3:53 PM, frank theriault
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 On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/microsoft_and_hoya_pentax_join_forces/
  
Does this mean the K30D will bluescreen?

  But according to Dave Brook's rumour posted from DPreview yesterday,
  Pentax is heading into oblivion.

  Why would MS be interested in a sinking company?

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Re: another for annsan

2008-05-13 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Brendan MacRae
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 I was headed over to Death Valley this last weekend
  for a magazine shoot when I saw this one and had to
  stop. Just on the north side of Bishop, CA on old Hwy
  395:

Har!

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Re: PESO: Propeller

2008-05-13 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It would fit very nicely with the cover of a sci fi book.

I think Boris is right, there's a book cover in there somewhere.

Cool pic!

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Re: PESO - Lucky on the Main Street Bus

2008-05-13 Thread Ken Waller
And here I thought Lucky was a 3 legged, tail less, one eyed dog!

His owner doesn't look too happy with you taking his shot.

Kenneth Waller
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From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PESO - Lucky on the Main Street Bus


 Lucky and his human, out on the town:

 http://tinyurl.com/4jjd5c

 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SCg3xfBRq1I/CAQ/FMmUGX68M3M/s1600-h/may_12_08+003.jpg

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Re: OT: Sign of the times

2008-05-13 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 10:33 PM, Daniel J. Matyola
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 Here is an interesting sign I found in Dublin 2 weeks ago.  It seems
  every business needs to diversify these days:

  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7248584


Har!

A comment on athletes and their command of the language perhaps?

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Re: another for annsan

2008-05-13 Thread Rebekah
gee, let's go get some tires honey...lol!

that's a funny shot :)


rg2

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   stop. Just on the north side of Bishop, CA on old Hwy
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 Har!

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Re: PESO 2008 - 80, 81 - GDG

2008-05-13 Thread Ken Waller
Different  nice - I like them both.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PESO 2008 - 80, 81 - GDG


 At the theatre for the Bette Davis Film Festival ...

   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/80-lonely_life.jpg
   The Lonely Life - Stanford Theater 2008
   ISO 1600 @ f/2.8 @ 1/4 second

   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/81-lonely_life2.jpg
   The Lonely Life 2 - Stanford Theater 2008
   ISO 1600 @ f/2.8 @ 1/2 second

 Both made with the Panasonic L1 fitted with Olympus ZD 25mm f/2.8 lens.

 Comments and critique always appreciated.

 enjoy
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Re: June PUG is 11th Anniversary Gallery!

2008-05-13 Thread Rebekah
yeah, I'm at a loss.  call me dumb.  huh?

rg2

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Re: Question: Has digital photography improved your skills?

2008-05-13 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just curious that's all, I'll be getting a digital soon too. If you can't
  beat em, join em, lol. The wife blew off
  87 snaps yesterday at a school event yesterday, she is in hog heaven. I
  guess the point I am trying to get across
  is if you have the ability to fire 20 shots at the same subject, are you
  going to take the same amount of set-up
  time for f/stop, exposure, background, composition, etc. as you would with
  film?


Hey, Steve,

Nice to see you again!  How's it going?

I think digital has allowed me to shoot more good shots, because I'm
not so inhibited as I used to be - I can experiment a bit more and
generally shoot at will, capturing things I'd have never wasted film
on before.  Turns out that some of those shots aren't so bad after
all.

That being said, I think my best film shots were better than my best
digital shots, and maybe that's because I was inhibited and took more
care with each shot, film being a relatively precious resource.

I'd say overall, I think digital has improved my shooting. audible
gasp from crowd

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Re: Screwdriver

2008-05-13 Thread Ken Waller
- Original Message - 
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Screwdriver



 So to clarify -- you didn't get screwed?

 No Ann, it appears he bolted.

 Terrible behavior for such a stud, eh?

 Oh nuts.

 Nothing but torque, torque, torque...

 Okay, now we need another thread.

 I think you've hit the nail on the head there.

 But he's been stripped of all credibility.

 I knew the drill when I made the first pun

 Well, we'll just chuck this entire thread.

Yes, it is getting boring.

 I'm going hone.

 You are too sharp for me.

 I have to admit its been a grind for me.

 I thought it would whet your appetite for more.

 We'd better stop or sparks will fly.

 What? You'll lose your temper?

 I was going to tap myself and join in, but I think my contribution would
 be
 too plane.

 Oh, just steel yourself  go ahead.

 Easy for you to say. Are you sure he has the mettle for it?

No. maybe he should take a durability test.

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PESO: Descanso Bay Shoreline

2008-05-13 Thread John Poirier
Hi.  I did some lens comparisons the other day and had very impressive
results with a K 85-210/4.5.  At f/11 it outperformed all my other zooms
(including the very fine A 70-210) and equalled all my primes excepting the
K 135/2.5 And Vivitar Series 1 200/3.0

The lens is a monster with poor close-focusing ability, originally purchased
cheap as a lark and as an interesting piece of Pentax history.  After the
fact I learned that it was reputed to be the equal of Pentax prime lenses, a
remarkable acchievement in a mid-seventies zoom.

I've decided to add it to my digital kit, at least for a while. This is an
early result:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2418/2489818271_b720c8cedf_b.jpg

Cheers

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Re: PESO: On the Road in Ireland

2008-05-13 Thread Doug Franklin
Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 As is the case in Montana and Hawaii, cattle seem to have the right of
 way on roads in Ireland.

The law may not be written that way, but I sure don't want to hit three 
quarters of a ton of potroast-on-the-hoof in a car! :-)

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Re: Descanso Bay Shoreline

2008-05-13 Thread Steve Larson
nice shot John. I remember that lens as being a real performer.

Steve

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From: John Poirier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: PESO: Descanso Bay Shoreline


 Hi.  I did some lens comparisons the other day and had very impressive
 results with a K 85-210/4.5.  At f/11 it outperformed all my other zooms
 (including the very fine A 70-210) and equalled all my primes excepting 
 the
 K 135/2.5 And Vivitar Series 1 200/3.0

 The lens is a monster with poor close-focusing ability, originally 
 purchased
 cheap as a lark and as an interesting piece of Pentax history.  After the
 fact I learned that it was reputed to be the equal of Pentax prime lenses, 
 a
 remarkable acchievement in a mid-seventies zoom.

 I've decided to add it to my digital kit, at least for a while. This is an
 early result:

 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2418/2489818271_b720c8cedf_b.jpg

 Cheers

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Re: Question: Has digital photography improved your skills?

2008-05-13 Thread AlunFoto
Steve,

Digital has not improved my skill. However it has improved my results.
From 2000-2003 I took about 100 rolls of film each year. Then I went digital.
In 2004 I made about 3500 shots, so I didn't change my habits one bit
the first year.
2005 and 2006 saw a slight increase, probably towards 4000 shots a
year (most of the archive is on a disk offline at the moment).
2007 was met with K10D, and saw another increase to about 5000. This
year I'm way behind schedule, though.

Most of the increase can probably be ascribed to playing with mosaics
(aka two-dimensional stitching). I sometimes take 20-30 tile-shots for
one assembly.

So how come digital improves results? Well.. I think it's because I
came from positive film. I was used to thinking in five stops of tonal
range. Digital is so much more forgiving, and thereby increase the
number of keepers in the captured material.

Best,
Jostein

2008/5/10 Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Just curious that's all, I'll be getting a digital soon too. If you can't
 beat em, join em, lol. The wife blew off
 87 snaps yesterday at a school event yesterday, she is in hog heaven. I
 guess the point I am trying to get across
 is if you have the ability to fire 20 shots at the same subject, are you
 going to take the same amount of set-up
 time for f/stop, exposure, background, composition, etc. as you would with
 film?

 Steve


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Re: Question: Has digital photography improved your skills?

2008-05-13 Thread Steve Larson
Interesting, thanks Jostein

Steve


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 Steve,

 Digital has not improved my skill. However it has improved my results.
From 2000-2003 I took about 100 rolls of film each year. Then I went 
digital.
 In 2004 I made about 3500 shots, so I didn't change my habits one bit
 the first year.
 2005 and 2006 saw a slight increase, probably towards 4000 shots a
 year (most of the archive is on a disk offline at the moment).
 2007 was met with K10D, and saw another increase to about 5000. This
 year I'm way behind schedule, though.

 Most of the increase can probably be ascribed to playing with mosaics
 (aka two-dimensional stitching). I sometimes take 20-30 tile-shots for
 one assembly.

 So how come digital improves results? Well.. I think it's because I
 came from positive film. I was used to thinking in five stops of tonal
 range. Digital is so much more forgiving, and thereby increase the
 number of keepers in the captured material.

 Best,
 Jostein

 2008/5/10 Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Just curious that's all, I'll be getting a digital soon too. If you can't
 beat em, join em, lol. The wife blew off
 87 snaps yesterday at a school event yesterday, she is in hog heaven. I
 guess the point I am trying to get across
 is if you have the ability to fire 20 shots at the same subject, are you
 going to take the same amount of set-up
 time for f/stop, exposure, background, composition, etc. as you would 
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Re: another for annsan

2008-05-13 Thread ann sanfedele

Brendan MacRae wrote:

I was headed over to Death Valley this last weekend
for a magazine shoot when I saw this one and had to
stop. Just on the north side of Bishop, CA on old Hwy
395:

http://www.primelensphoto.com/Blow_Out!/large-1.html

-Brendan


  

Ann replies:

Chuckle chuckle :):)

Bishop is  fertile field for sign shots

see also this one I got a couple of years ago.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/3456699_tUREu/1/294852785_tMruk/Large

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Re: Microsoft and Hoya Pentax join forces.

2008-05-13 Thread Cotty
On 13/5/08, Steve Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed:

I really want the Cotty Reply to this one.

What a loada bollocks!

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Re: PESO: Southern Cross

2008-05-13 Thread Charles Robinson
On May 12, 2008, at 7:27, David Savage wrote:

 G'day All,

 Took this a few months ago but have just this weekend got around
 retouching it (~160kb)

 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2119/2481946623_1e672bebcc_o.jpg
 http://flickr.com/photos/disavage/2481946623/


I like the quality of the light in this one.  It must be very much in  
the middle of nowhere (ie, not near any cities!) for you to be able to  
leave the shutter open for this long and not completely blow out the  
exposure.  Even at that, it looks like the foreground is actually  
UNDEREXPOSED still!

So - when you do a 970 second shot, do you just lock the shutter open  
and walk away for the 16 minutes it takes?


 K10D, DA* 16-50mm f2.8 @ 16mm, 969 seconds @ f4, ISO 100, slight
 amount of reflected red gelled flash, lots of spotting in PS.


How do you determine how much flash is enough to mix with the long  
exposure - trial and error?  Sounds like a long night of  
experimentation (or years of practice so you can just know when you  
do it now).

  -Charles

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Re: Microsoft and Hoya Pentax join forces.

2008-05-13 Thread Steve Desjardins
I don't know about that.  The idea of the Windows boot-up sequence on my
LCD for about a minute or so when I switch on my K5000D has a certain
familiar and comforting cham to it . . .


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 Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/13/08 6:36 PM 
On 13/5/08, Steve Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed:

I really want the Cotty Reply to this one.

What a loada bollocks!

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Re: Microsoft and Hoya Pentax join forces.

2008-05-13 Thread Bruce Walker
Steve Desjardins wrote:
 I don't know about that.  The idea of the Windows boot-up sequence on my
 LCD for about a minute or so when I switch on my K5000D has a certain
 familiar and comforting cham to it . . .
   

Except ... you have a once-in-a-lifetime shot lined up and focused, and 
as you start to press the shutter you get a pop-up on the LCD that says,

Critical firmware updates are available.

  Click OK to download and install
  updates or click Cancel to reboot.



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Re: PESO - Lucky on the Main Street Bus

2008-05-13 Thread pnstenquist
Nice esposure and rendering. Good shot. But I have to agree with Ken. I think 
we're fortunate to still count you among the walking and talking:-). You are a 
brave man.
Paul
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From: Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 And here I thought Lucky was a 3 legged, tail less, one eyed dog!
 
 His owner doesn't look too happy with you taking his shot.
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: PESO - Lucky on the Main Street Bus
 
 
  Lucky and his human, out on the town:
 
  http://tinyurl.com/4jjd5c
 
  
 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SCg3xfBRq1I/CAQ/FMmUGX68M3M/s1600-h/
 may_12_08+003.jpg
 
  Comments always welcome.
 
  cheers,
  frank
 
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Re: PESO 2008 - 80, 81 - GDG

2008-05-13 Thread pnstenquist
Certainly among the best of your recent posts. Well done.
Paul
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From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 At the theatre for the Bette Davis Film Festival ...
 
http://homepage.mac.com/godders/80-lonely_life.jpg
The Lonely Life - Stanford Theater 2008
ISO 1600 @ f/2.8 @ 1/4 second
 
http://homepage.mac.com/godders/81-lonely_life2.jpg
The Lonely Life 2 - Stanford Theater 2008
ISO 1600 @ f/2.8 @ 1/2 second
 
 Both made with the Panasonic L1 fitted with Olympus ZD 25mm f/2.8 lens.
 
 Comments and critique always appreciated.
 
 enjoy
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Re: Microsoft and Hoya Pentax join forces.

2008-05-13 Thread Rebekah
Every time you format your memory card it will ask...Are you sure?
Really?.

Maybe it will be every time you try to grab that perfect shot - you
know, the one you can't believe you're actually holding your camera
for..Are you sure?  Press 'Yes' to continue

Any guesses as to which Pentax patents Microsoft is interested in?
Here's mine: The horizontally-sliding lens design of the Altoids tin
Optio cameras.


Sounds like a good guess.  My hubby has one of those - it's REALLY
cool.I thought a couple of other folks had that technology tho

rg2

On 5/13/08, Bruce Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Steve Desjardins wrote:
  I don't know about that.  The idea of the Windows boot-up sequence on my
  LCD for about a minute or so when I switch on my K5000D has a certain
  familiar and comforting cham to it . . .
 

 Except ... you have a once-in-a-lifetime shot lined up and focused, and
 as you start to press the shutter you get a pop-up on the LCD that says,

Critical firmware updates are available.

  Click OK to download and install
  updates or click Cancel to reboot.



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GFM ticket

2008-05-13 Thread Rebekah
Hey guys,

Due a rather abrupt change in employment, I will not be attending GFM
this year.  Does anyone want to buy my ticket from me?

rg2

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Re: GFM ticket

2008-05-13 Thread Bob Sullivan
Sorry to hear that...Regards,  Bob S.

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 Due a rather abrupt change in employment, I will not be attending GFM
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RE: GFM ticket

2008-05-13 Thread patti walters

Are they participant or guest?






 Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 21:16:16 -0400
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 Hey guys,
 
 Due a rather abrupt change in employment, I will not be attending GFM
 this year.  Does anyone want to buy my ticket from me?
 
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Re: GFM ticket

2008-05-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
Hi Rebekah,
If no one bites, Grandfather Mountain will refund your purchase  
price. They have a waiting list. Been there, done that. Too many times.
Paul
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Re: Microsoft and Hoya Pentax join forces.

2008-05-13 Thread P. J. Alling
I hope that's the worst thing that happens...

Adam Maas wrote:
 http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/microsoft_and_hoya_pentax_join_forces/

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PESO: Connection

2008-05-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7257638

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PESO: friends

2008-05-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7257643size=lg

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Re: another for annsan

2008-05-13 Thread ann sanfedele
P. J. Alling wrote:

Sort of off topic but do you think that Homer works there?


I wondered about that myself
ann


Brendan MacRae wrote:
  

I was headed over to Death Valley this last weekend
for a magazine shoot when I saw this one and had to
stop. Just on the north side of Bishop, CA on old Hwy
395:


http://www.primelensphoto.com/Blow_Out!/large-1.html

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Re: OT: Can you identify this bush for me?

2008-05-13 Thread ann sanfedele
Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

No, this is not a Monty Python routine.

  

Oh - then I guess it isn't W

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Re: Screwdriver

2008-05-13 Thread John Celio
 So to clarify -- you didn't get screwed?

 No Ann, it appears he bolted.

 Terrible behavior for such a stud, eh?

 Oh nuts.

 Nothing but torque, torque, torque...

 Okay, now we need another thread.

 I think you've hit the nail on the head there.

 But he's been stripped of all credibility.

 I knew the drill when I made the first pun

 Well, we'll just chuck this entire thread.

Yes, it is getting boring.

 I'm going hone.

 You are too sharp for me.

 I have to admit its been a grind for me.

 I thought it would whet your appetite for more.

 We'd better stop or sparks will fly.

 What? You'll lose your temper?

 I was going to tap myself and join in, but I think my contribution 
 would
 be
 too plane.

 Oh, just steel yourself  go ahead.

 Easy for you to say. Are you sure he has the mettle for it?

 No. maybe he should take a durability test.

What, don't you zinc I can handle it?  Your lack of faith makes me sulfur 
with a leaden heart.

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Re: PESO: Connection

2008-05-13 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
excellent!!

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Re: PESO 2008 - 80, 81 - GDG

2008-05-13 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
too dark too my eyes, or screen, who knows. it is trippy in terms of
weird perspective, and i like that.

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Re: another for annsan

2008-05-13 Thread Brendan MacRae
Ha!

Good one. I wonder if they do Cardinals too?

-Brendan
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 Brendan MacRae wrote:
 
 I was headed over to Death Valley this last weekend
 for a magazine shoot when I saw this one and had to
 stop. Just on the north side of Bishop, CA on old
 Hwy
 395:
 

http://www.primelensphoto.com/Blow_Out!/large-1.html
 
 -Brendan
 
 
   
 
 Ann replies:
 
 Chuckle chuckle :):)
 
 Bishop is  fertile field for sign shots
 
 see also this one I got a couple of years ago.
 

http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/3456699_tUREu/1/294852785_tMruk/Large
 
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Re: K10D Repair Estimate

2008-05-13 Thread Joseph Tainter
Paul wrote:

I received a repair estimate from Pentax Colorado for my K10D. I had
told them that it backfocused severely with two DA* lenses, both of
which work fine with my K20D.

Paul, I assume you must send in the lenses as well?

Maybe Pentax is just practicing backward incompatibility for their 
eventual merger with Microsoft.

Joe

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Nostalgia as a Conversation Starter

2008-05-13 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.
This afternoon I got a call from the lab where I dropped off the 
film from the wedding I shot recently, saying my proofs were ready.
The trip to the lab and back took rather longer than I'd expected,
because after one of the people there (uh, manager maybe?  different
last name than the owner) got into a major, enthusiastic geeking-out
session with me after she mistook my Program Plus for a K1000 from
the back (I had set it down while looking at negs).

She'd recently dusted off her long-idle K1000 to shoot HIE in,
having read that her Canon wouldn't be good for IR, and rediscovered
what a nice and rugged little camera it was.  I told her about this
mailing list.

The cameras I'm most likely to get comments on when I carry them
are the K-series, all the more so when I do carry a K1000 and 
somebody notices the model number as well as the shape.  All because
so many people have fond memories of their old K1000, whatever 
they're shooting now.  I wonder what body, if any, will play the
same role fifteen years from now, when most folks old student
camera will have been something else.

Now I have to remember to take an S3 with me the next time I go in,
after having described what a pleasure the mechanism on those is.
And some of my EIR shots.  Come to think of it, I should show her
the K2 as well.

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