Re: June PUG is up!

2008-06-11 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi All:  This is a very lovely PUG.  I send big congrats to all the 
submitters.  The photos are just terrific!!!  Big Cheers, Christine


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Subject: June PUG is up!


 Finally.  Sorry I'm so late on this one.  I'll try to make it up to all
 of you.  See it here:  http://pug.komkon.org/

 July's theme is Sports and Action.  Submit photos here:
 http://pdmlpug.org/?p=35

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Re: My New Cap

2008-06-11 Thread Cotty
On 10/6/08, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:

When we were in Rochester, NY last month, I bought
this nifty new cap at the George Eastman House:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7392338

It's very accurate:  It precisely matches my official
Kodak 18% grey card.  Furthermore, my own head is 18%
grey, and 82% skin.

I looked for one for Cotty, but they didn't have any
that said 1.8% Grey.

Cute.


You're a marked man Womer ;)

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Re: My New Cap

2008-06-11 Thread Cotty
On 10/6/08, Ken Waller, discombobulated, unleashed:

I understand Cotty has an 11 head.

One more inch  it would be a foot.

It depends on the weather, as a rule.

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Re: SDM technology lenses

2008-06-11 Thread Cotty
On 10/6/08, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:

JCOHOWEVER/JCO, the EOS-1d mII N with (non-IS) 70-200/2.8 weighs 
roughly 5.6lbs (2.54kg).  Just to confirm Adam's statement, my P645 with 
A200/4 weighs 4lbs 11oz (2.12kg).  So yeah, your camera is freaking heavy.

JCONO ITS NOT YOU FREAKASAURUS MY GOD GET IT RIGHT/JCO




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Re: SDM technology lenses

2008-06-11 Thread Cotty
On 10/6/08, gldnbearz, discombobulated, unleashed:

I spent a stint in high school where there was a Video Club complete
with full size VHS camcorders (remember those?), spare batteries (3
x8 x1.5), extension cables, mike pacs, etc where we did tapings of
newsworthy events around campus.  I learned that I didn't have the
height  size necessary for that line of work.  Maybe if I kept at it,
I might have.

Like I said, if the shoe fits.

The cost to me is a chiro visit once a month and realistically looking
at maybe another ten years tops at it. I'm trying to downsize soon.

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Re: NO NO NO

2008-06-11 Thread AlunFoto
Time for rehab?!?

confused,
Jostein

2008/6/11 William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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Re: Flash contact pins

2008-06-11 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/06/10 Tue PM 08:32:41 GMT
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 Subject: Flash contact pins
 
 The mailman has enabled me.
 A flash and a sync cable and some other flash stuff.
 Everything is working fine. But I do have a problem.

Two.  You need to tell us what flash and cable...

Try slipping a thin piece of plastic into the shoe, under all the pins.  IIRC, 
you can buy dummy shoes, made of plastic with no contacts, to deal with this 
problem.

 
 When mounted in my old flash bracket, the flash refuses to communicate
 with the camera. Nothing wrong with the cable.
 I think the problem is that the flash bracket is shortening the contacts.
 Does that sound like a good theory? And if so, what contacts do I need
 to isolate to get what I want? One more while I'm at it. Any
 suggestions on how to isolate it. My best idea so far is to drill some
 holes in the contact.
 
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RE: SDM technology lenses

2008-06-11 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/06/10 Tue PM 09:25:57 GMT
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 Subject: RE: SDM technology  lenses
 
 Who'll be the first to review this one?
 
 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-4-5kg-Single-Bick-Anvil/dp/B000MTNJIO/r
 ef=wl_itt_dp?ie=UTF8coliid=I51ZQYZ28Z0E2colid=WC7E8MODN8EJ
 
 Bob 

4.5Kg?  Used by fairies to make thimbles.

Landrover/1DMkIII anvils need to be _at least_ one order of magnitude bigger.

 
  
  Not compared to your anvil collection, anyway...
  
  --- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   
   Au contraire mon frere. The 1D series with a 70-200
   2.8 balances
   beautifully and is not heavy at all.
   
 
 
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Re: Flash contact pins

2008-06-11 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/06/11 Wed AM 12:28:50 GMT
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 Subject: Re: Flash contact pins
 
 Yep. I've tried that, mainly to test my theory. The theory sticks, but
 the tape don't :-)
 I think I need a more permanent solution. One that doesn't involve
 taping the flash or the bracket every time I mount it. That's why I've
 been thinking about drilling holes in the bracket to ensure the pins
 don't make contact with the metall.
 What do you think, does this sound like a good solution?
 
 MaritimTim

No.  This is:
http://www.hama.co.uk/portal/searchSelectedProduct*NO/articleId*3976/action*2563/searchMode*1/bySearch*shoe

 
 2008/6/10 Axel Belinfante [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  When mounted in my old flash bracket, the flash refuses to communicate
  with the camera. Nothing wrong with the cable.
  I think the problem is that the flash bracket is shortening the contacts.
  Does that sound like a good theory? And if so, what contacts do I need
  to isolate to get what I want? One more while I'm at it. Any
  suggestions on how to isolate it. My best idea so far is to drill some
  holes in the contact.
 
  assuming that the cable is directly connected to the flash,
  i.e. the contacts in the bracket do not matter,
  how about gluing some layers of isolating sticky tape (scotch tape)
  into the bracket where the contacts will be?
 
  Axel.
 
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Re: Flash contact pins

2008-06-11 Thread Tim Øsleby
2008/6/11 mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/06/11 Wed AM 12:28:50 GMT
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 Subject: Re: Flash contact pins

 Yep. I've tried that, mainly to test my theory. The theory sticks, but
 the tape don't :-)
 I think I need a more permanent solution. One that doesn't involve
 taping the flash or the bracket every time I mount it. That's why I've
 been thinking about drilling holes in the bracket to ensure the pins
 don't make contact with the metall.
 What do you think, does this sound like a good solution?

 MaritimTim

 No.  This is:
 http://www.hama.co.uk/portal/searchSelectedProduct*NO/articleId*3976/action*2563/searchMode*1/bySearch*shoe

That looks like a very permanent solution. Except that it won't fit my
bracket, unless I glue it on top of the original foot.

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Re: Flash contact pins

2008-06-11 Thread Tim Øsleby
2008/6/11 William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 - Original Message -
 From: Tim Øsleby
 Subject: Re: Flash contact pins


 Yep. I've tried that, mainly to test my theory. The theory sticks, but
 the tape don't :-)
 I think I need a more permanent solution. One that doesn't involve
 taping the flash or the bracket every time I mount it. That's why I've
 been thinking about drilling holes in the bracket to ensure the pins
 don't make contact with the metall.
 What do you think, does this sound like a good solution?

 Clear nail polish is a good solution..
 Coloured nail polish might be a better solution because you'll be able to see 
 when it wears
 off

 William Robb


Thats definately worth a try.

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Re: Flash contact pins

2008-06-11 Thread Tim Øsleby
Pentax 540 with the original Pentax sync cable

MaritimTim

2008/6/11 Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 what flash? what cable?

 Could be reversed polarity.


 On Jun 10, 2008, at 4:32 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote:

 The mailman has enabled me.
 A flash and a sync cable and some other flash stuff.
 Everything is working fine. But I do have a problem.

 When mounted in my old flash bracket, the flash refuses to communicate
 with the camera. Nothing wrong with the cable.
 I think the problem is that the flash bracket is shortening the
 contacts.
 Does that sound like a good theory? And if so, what contacts do I need
 to isolate to get what I want? One more while I'm at it. Any
 suggestions on how to isolate it. My best idea so far is to drill some
 holes in the contact.

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Re: NO NO NO

2008-06-11 Thread Tim Øsleby
Rehab will just make you more confuced..

MaritimTim

2008/6/11 AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Time for rehab?!?

 confused,
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Re: Flash contact pins

2008-06-11 Thread James
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:28:50 +0200, Tim ÃÜsleby wrote:

Yep. I've tried that, mainly to test my theory. The theory sticks, but
the tape don't :-)
I think I need a more permanent solution. One that doesn't involve
taping the flash or the bracket every time I mount it. That's why I've
been thinking about drilling holes in the bracket to ensure the pins
don't make contact with the metall.
What do you think, does this sound like a good solution?

MaritimTim

I don't think it would be good at all. The pins will drop into the holes and 
the flash may get stuck.
If however you then fill the holes with  some form of glue, that would work

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Re: Flash contact pins

2008-06-11 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/06/11 Wed AM 07:45:18 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Flash contact pins
 
 2008/6/11 mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 
  From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2008/06/11 Wed AM 12:28:50 GMT
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Subject: Re: Flash contact pins
 
  Yep. I've tried that, mainly to test my theory. The theory sticks, but
  the tape don't :-)
  I think I need a more permanent solution. One that doesn't involve
  taping the flash or the bracket every time I mount it. That's why I've
  been thinking about drilling holes in the bracket to ensure the pins
  don't make contact with the metall.
  What do you think, does this sound like a good solution?
 
  MaritimTim
 
  No.  This is:
  http://www.hama.co.uk/portal/searchSelectedProduct*NO/articleId*3976/action*2563/searchMode*1/bySearch*shoe
 
 That looks like a very permanent solution. Except that it won't fit my
 bracket, unless I glue it on top of the original foot.

It's not clear from the pictures but I think that it has ridges on to fit into 
a normal flash shoe as well as a screw hole.  If this one does not, there are 
others available (not, apparently, from Hama) that do.


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OT: An Engineer's Guide to Cats

2008-06-11 Thread Brian Walters
Hi all

Being a (former) engineer, I found this amusing.

Knowing that many (some?) PDMLers are owned by cats, maybe there's a
chuckle or two to be had here ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHXBL6bzAR4




Cheers

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Re: Flash contact pins

2008-06-11 Thread Tim Øsleby
I doupht it would fit if there are no ridges. Because there are no
screwholes in the original shoe.
But I like the idea of a shoe with ridges.
I'll try the nail polish trick first, as a ad hoc solution. And look
for a shoe with ridges as the long term solution.

MaritimTim

2008/6/11 mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/06/11 Wed AM 07:45:18 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Flash contact pins

 2008/6/11 mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 
  From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2008/06/11 Wed AM 12:28:50 GMT
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Subject: Re: Flash contact pins
 
  Yep. I've tried that, mainly to test my theory. The theory sticks, but
  the tape don't :-)
  I think I need a more permanent solution. One that doesn't involve
  taping the flash or the bracket every time I mount it. That's why I've
  been thinking about drilling holes in the bracket to ensure the pins
  don't make contact with the metall.
  What do you think, does this sound like a good solution?
 
  MaritimTim
 
  No.  This is:
  http://www.hama.co.uk/portal/searchSelectedProduct*NO/articleId*3976/action*2563/searchMode*1/bySearch*shoe
 
 That looks like a very permanent solution. Except that it won't fit my
 bracket, unless I glue it on top of the original foot.

 It's not clear from the pictures but I think that it has ridges on to fit 
 into a normal flash shoe as well as a screw hole.  If this one does not, 
 there are others available (not, apparently, from Hama) that do.


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Re: OT: An Engineer's Guide to Cats

2008-06-11 Thread David Savage
LOL

I discovered that one a few weeks ago  have watched it at least twice
a week since.

The yodelling gets me every time :-)

Cheers,

Dave

2008/6/11 Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi all

 Being a (former) engineer, I found this amusing.

 Knowing that many (some?) PDMLers are owned by cats, maybe there's a
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 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHXBL6bzAR4

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Re: NO NO NO

2008-06-11 Thread AlunFoto
2008/6/11 Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Rehab will just make you more confuced..

 MaritimTim

Hmmm...

I'd think defused would be closer to the mark... :-)

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Re: Really OT: Vest Pocket Autographic

2008-06-11 Thread Derby Chang
Scott Loveless wrote:
 Derby Chang wrote:
   
 Holga be-damned. This is where it's at.

 I was helping my friend tidying up her late parents' house. She gave me 
 her Dad's Kodak Vest Pocket Autographic and gifted it to me. Such an 
 ergonomically enticing little package.

 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_06/08_06_vpk/index.htm

 I need to get some anti-newton glass to do the scans justice.

 D

 
 OK.  I'm jealous.  Very nice photos there, Derby.  Was that Fomapan you 
 shot with it?  Has the film base improved?  I gave up on that stuff a 
 couple years ago because it curls something awful.  Granted, your 
 options are limited when it comes to 127.

   

Thanks to everyone who commented. Not to much artistry in those shots I 
admit, but I really love that feeling of history.

Scott, you are right, not a lot of choice in 127. It was EFKE, made by a 
brave Croatian company, apparently the only source in the world. And 
yes, it curls like buggery too.

There are a few other places I've seen that sell 127 spliced from 120. 
But the backing paper is all wrong (no film counter on the VPK). I 
wonder if I can get EFKE in 120 to see how it performs with more modern 
optics.

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K20D and K200D cashback in the UK

2008-06-11 Thread Rob Brigham
http://www.pentax.co.uk/_uk/photo/cashback.php

£100 on K20D and £50 on K200D from 11th June to the end of August.

Shame I bought mine already...

Rob

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Re: NO NO NO

2008-06-11 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:33 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dave

Polo

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Re: My New Cap

2008-06-11 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 When we were in Rochester, NY last month, I bought
 this nifty new cap at the George Eastman House:

Neat hat.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7392338

 It's very accurate:  It precisely matches my official
 Kodak 18% grey card.  Furthermore, my own head is 18%
 grey, and 82% skin.

 I looked for one for Cotty, but they didn't have any
 that said 1.8% Grey.

Don't for get the rain and fog factors

Dave

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Re: OT: An Engineer's Guide to Cats

2008-06-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/6/08, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:

Hi all

Being a (former) engineer, I found this amusing.

Knowing that many (some?) PDMLers are owned by cats, maybe there's a
chuckle or two to be had here ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHXBL6bzAR4


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Re: Flash contact pins

2008-06-11 Thread Doug Franklin
mike wilson wrote:

 A flash and a sync cable and some other flash stuff.
 Everything is working fine. But I do have a problem.
 
 Two.  You need to tell us what flash and cable...
 
 Try slipping a thin piece of plastic into the shoe, under all the pins.  
 IIRC, you can buy dummy shoes, made of plastic with no contacts, to deal 
 with this problem.

I have the same problem with a cheap off-camera-flash bracket.  I just 
take a sheet of paper and fold it over to about four thicknesses and 
slip that between the foot of the flash and the bottom of the shoe on 
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Re: OT: An Engineer's Guide to Cats

2008-06-11 Thread Brian Walters
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:10:26 +0800, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
 LOL
 
 I discovered that one a few weeks ago  have watched it at least twice
 a week since.
 
 The yodelling gets me every time :-)




Yes, but measuring the aspect ratio is inspired.




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  Hi all
 
  Being a (former) engineer, I found this amusing.
 
  Knowing that many (some?) PDMLers are owned by cats, maybe there's a
  chuckle or two to be had here ...
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHXBL6bzAR4
 

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Re: NO NO NO

2008-06-11 Thread Brian Walters
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:37:24 +0800, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
 At 11:33 AM 11/06/2008, William Robb wrote:
 Dave
 
 
 YES,YES, YES.
 
 Bill 
 


All together now, just smile and back slowly towards the nearest exit.

The padded van and men in white coats will be here shortly.





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Re: NO NO NO

2008-06-11 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:37:24 +0800, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 said:
 At 11:33 AM 11/06/2008, William Robb wrote:
 Dave


 YES,YES, YES.

 Bill



 All together now, just smile and back slowly towards the nearest exit.

 The padded van and men in white coats will be here shortly.


I love this list...

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Re: Flash contact pins

2008-06-11 Thread Tim Øsleby
Tried gaffer tape. The pins perforated it.

MaritimTim

2008/6/11 Peter Loveday [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Try slipping a thin piece of plastic into the shoe, under all the pins.
 IIRC, you can buy dummy shoes, made of plastic with no contacts, to
 deal with this problem.

 I have the same problem with a cheap off-camera-flash bracket.  I just
 take a sheet of paper and fold it over to about four thicknesses and
 slip that between the foot of the flash and the bottom of the shoe on
 the bracket.

 I've had the same issue with hotshoes on umbrella swivels... I find a piece
 of Gaffer Tape stays on okay for me.

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Re: K20D and K200D cashback in the UK

2008-06-11 Thread P. J. Alling
There's been a $100 rebate on the K20D for a while now, several weeks at 
least IIRC.

Rob Brigham wrote:
 http://www.pentax.co.uk/_uk/photo/cashback.php

 £100 on K20D and £50 on K200D from 11th June to the end of August.

 Shame I bought mine already...

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Re: NO NO NO

2008-06-11 Thread P. J. Alling
Scott Loveless wrote:
 frank theriault wrote:
   
 On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:37:24 +0800, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 said:
   
 At 11:33 AM 11/06/2008, William Robb wrote:
 
 Dave
   
 YES,YES, YES.

 Bill

 
 All together now, just smile and back slowly towards the nearest exit.

 The padded van and men in white coats will be here shortly.

   
 I love this list...

 cheers,
 frank


 
 It's the thread about nothing.  Just like every other thread.  ;)
   
Not about nothing, surely.

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Re: NO NO NO

2008-06-11 Thread Scott Loveless
frank theriault wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:37:24 +0800, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 said:
 At 11:33 AM 11/06/2008, William Robb wrote:
 Dave

 YES,YES, YES.

 Bill


 All together now, just smile and back slowly towards the nearest exit.

 The padded van and men in white coats will be here shortly.

 
 I love this list...
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
 
It's the thread about nothing.  Just like every other thread.  ;)

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Re: Really OT: Vest Pocket Autographic

2008-06-11 Thread Scott Loveless
Derby Chang wrote:
 There are a few other places I've seen that sell 127 spliced from 120. 
 But the backing paper is all wrong (no film counter on the VPK). I 
 wonder if I can get EFKE in 120 to see how it performs with more modern 
 optics.

Yes, you can.  It's available from Freestyle and BH, among several 
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Re: Flash contact pins

2008-06-11 Thread Peter Loveday
 Try slipping a thin piece of plastic into the shoe, under all the pins. 
 IIRC, you can buy dummy shoes, made of plastic with no contacts, to 
 deal with this problem.

 I have the same problem with a cheap off-camera-flash bracket.  I just
 take a sheet of paper and fold it over to about four thicknesses and
 slip that between the foot of the flash and the bottom of the shoe on
 the bracket.

I've had the same issue with hotshoes on umbrella swivels... I find a piece 
of Gaffer Tape stays on okay for me.

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Re: K20D and K200D cashback in the UK

2008-06-11 Thread mike wilson
This is £100.  First time I've seen a rebate on Pentax gear in the UK.  But the 
UK price is ~£799 for the body plus 18-55.  Rebate does not apply to body only.
 
 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/06/11 Wed PM 01:03:33 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: K20D and K200D cashback in the UK
 
 There's been a $100 rebate on the K20D for a while now, several weeks at 
 least IIRC.
 
 Rob Brigham wrote:
  http://www.pentax.co.uk/_uk/photo/cashback.php
 
  £100 on K20D and £50 on K200D from 11th June to the end of August.
 
  Shame I bought mine already...
 
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Re: K20D and K200D cashback in the UK

2008-06-11 Thread P. J. Alling
The lowest reputable dealer's Body only price in the US is Buydig.com 
at 1089.00 USD which is about 555.00 GBP.  The $100 is off that. 

mike wilson wrote:
 This is £100.  First time I've seen a rebate on Pentax gear in the UK.  But 
 the UK price is ~£799 for the body plus 18-55.  Rebate does not apply to body 
 only.
   
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 There's been a $100 rebate on the K20D for a while now, several weeks at 
 least IIRC.

 Rob Brigham wrote:
 
 http://www.pentax.co.uk/_uk/photo/cashback.php

 £100 on K20D and £50 on K200D from 11th June to the end of August.

 Shame I bought mine already...

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Re: K20D and K200D cashback in the UK

2008-06-11 Thread P. J. Alling
Yea, I know, you guys are still getting screwed...

P. J. Alling wrote:
 The lowest reputable dealer's Body only price in the US is Buydig.com 
 at 1089.00 USD which is about 555.00 GBP.  The $100 is off that. 

 mike wilson wrote:
   
 This is £100.  First time I've seen a rebate on Pentax gear in the UK.  But 
 the UK price is ~£799 for the body plus 18-55.  Rebate does not apply to 
 body only.
   
 
 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/06/11 Wed PM 01:03:33 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: K20D and K200D cashback in the UK

 There's been a $100 rebate on the K20D for a while now, several weeks at 
 least IIRC.

 Rob Brigham wrote:
 
   
 http://www.pentax.co.uk/_uk/photo/cashback.php

 £100 on K20D and £50 on K200D from 11th June to the end of August.

 Shame I bought mine already...

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OT - paintings

2008-06-11 Thread Scott Loveless
Hey, gang.  Several years ago Christie and I purchased a painting from 
an antique dealer in St. Louis.  It wasn't very expensive and neither of 
us know jack about paintings, but we liked it.  It's been hanging over 
the sofa ever since.  Anyway, would those of you with an eye for this 
sort of thing take a quick look and tell me what you think?  The name at 
the bottom is Bene` if it's too hard to see.

http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/Paintings/photo?authkey=E3lck7Uhzo0#5210627485032516322

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Re: OT - paintings

2008-06-11 Thread pnstenquist
An artist by the name of Albert Bene worked in San Francisco in the early part 
of the 20th century. I've only seen one of his paintings. It wasn't really in 
the style of this piece, but it was so different in subject matter that it 
would be hard to say for certain that it wasn't by the same artist, based only 
on a web image. Your painting could very well be early 20th century based on 
the impressionist rendering of the scene and what appears to be a liberal 
application of paint. Again, it's hard to see much on a web image. Is there a 
date on the piece?
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hey, gang.  Several years ago Christie and I purchased a painting from 
 an antique dealer in St. Louis.  It wasn't very expensive and neither of 
 us know jack about paintings, but we liked it.  It's been hanging over 
 the sofa ever since.  Anyway, would those of you with an eye for this 
 sort of thing take a quick look and tell me what you think?  The name at 
 the bottom is Bene` if it's too hard to see.
 
 http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/Paintings/photo?authkey=E3lck7Uhzo0#5210
 627485032516322
 
 Much appreciated.
 
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Re: OT - paintings

2008-06-11 Thread Scott Loveless
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 An artist by the name of Albert Bene worked in San Francisco in the
 early part of the 20th century. I've only seen one of his paintings.
 It wasn't really in the style of this piece, but it was so different
 in subject matter that it would be hard to say for certain that it
 wasn't by the same artist, based only on a web image. Your painting
 could very well be early 20th century based on the impressionist
 rendering of the scene and what appears to be a liberal application
 of paint. Again, it's hard to see much on a web image. Is there a
 date on the piece? Paul 

Thanks, Paul.  I've not been able to find a date on it.  There is a 
backing attached to the frame which I've never removed.  So who knows 
what's on the back of the canvas?

To my uneducated eye it looks as if quite a bit of the paint was applied 
with a knife, if that helps at all.

 
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Re: K20D and K200D cashback in the UK

2008-06-11 Thread mike wilson
Not really.  When the time comes for me to buy a new camera (currently 
anticipated to be in the 2020s) I will buy it from somewhere that gives me a 
far better combination of value and service than anywhere in the UK is likely 
to provide.
 
 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/06/11 Wed PM 01:25:50 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: K20D and K200D cashback in the UK
 
 Yea, I know, you guys are still getting screwed...
 
 P. J. Alling wrote:
  The lowest reputable dealer's Body only price in the US is Buydig.com 
  at 1089.00 USD which is about 555.00 GBP.  The $100 is off that. 
 
  mike wilson wrote:

  This is £100.  First time I've seen a rebate on Pentax gear in the UK.  
  But the UK price is ~£799 for the body plus 18-55.  Rebate does not apply 
  to body only.

  
  From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2008/06/11 Wed PM 01:03:33 GMT
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Subject: Re: K20D and K200D cashback in the UK
 
  There's been a $100 rebate on the K20D for a while now, several weeks at 
  least IIRC.
 
  Rob Brigham wrote:
  

  http://www.pentax.co.uk/_uk/photo/cashback.php
 
  £100 on K20D and £50 on K200D from 11th June to the end of August.
 
  Shame I bought mine already...
 
  Rob
 


  
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Re: OT - paintings

2008-06-11 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey, gang.  Several years ago Christie and I purchased a painting from
 an antique dealer in St. Louis.  It wasn't very expensive and neither of
 us know jack about paintings, but we liked it.  It's been hanging over
 the sofa ever since.  Anyway, would those of you with an eye for this
 sort of thing take a quick look and tell me what you think?  The name at
 the bottom is Bene` if it's too hard to see.

 http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/Paintings/photo?authkey=E3lck7Uhzo0#5210627485032516322

 Much appreciated.

I appreciate poker playing dogs, clowns with big eyes and velvet
renditions of Elvis.

Yours is of a genre that I'm not familiar with.

Sorry.

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Re: OT - paintings

2008-06-11 Thread Scott Loveless
frank theriault wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey, gang.  Several years ago Christie and I purchased a painting from
 an antique dealer in St. Louis.  It wasn't very expensive and neither of
 us know jack about paintings, but we liked it.  It's been hanging over
 the sofa ever since.  Anyway, would those of you with an eye for this
 sort of thing take a quick look and tell me what you think?  The name at
 the bottom is Bene` if it's too hard to see.

 http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/Paintings/photo?authkey=E3lck7Uhzo0#5210627485032516322

 Much appreciated.
 
 I appreciate poker playing dogs, clowns with big eyes and velvet
 renditions of Elvis.
 
 Yours is of a genre that I'm not familiar with.
 
 Sorry.
 
I could tilt it.  Would that help?  :)


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Re: OT - paintings

2008-06-11 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I could tilt it.  Would that help?  :)


Possibly.  A bit more blur might work, too.

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The Eys is Katz ;-)

2008-06-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

The focusing screen arrived. Sans yet another round of outrageous postal 
taxes, I've installed it right away. Actually it was fairly simple and 
even clumsy me could do it. Now I can properly focus the A 50/1.2 at 
f1.2 and get predictably sharp pictures. I really think that the idea of 
no lines whatsoever in the frame was good. It feels oddly convenient.

And to my utter pleasure I can monitor the AF performance now.

Long live PDML!

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Re: SDM technology lenses

2008-06-11 Thread gldnbearz
Hi Adam,

On 6/9/08, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The Buffer is small enough that it can be a real issue even when not
 shooting in continuous advance. I know I had issues with that with
 both the K100D and the *istD.

Can you give some examples of situations when you ran into this?  Most
of the time, I am doing static stuff, family, friends, those sorts of
events.  Lot more use during trips, etc.

 I found the DS to have the
 best ergonomics overall (the grip on the D is too shallow, the K10D is
 about midway between the two and the K100D was a almost as nice a
 handful, but not as solid).

Thanks for confirming the ergonomics.  Can you give your comments on
the view finder differences btwn the DS (prism) and K100D (mirror -
which the K200D also has)?

Pats

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Re: SDM technology lenses

2008-06-11 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:07 PM, gldnbearz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Adam,

 On 6/9/08, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The Buffer is small enough that it can be a real issue even when not
 shooting in continuous advance. I know I had issues with that with
 both the K100D and the *istD.

 Can you give some examples of situations when you ran into this?  Most
 of the time, I am doing static stuff, family, friends, those sorts of
 events.  Lot more use during trips, etc.

The big problem for me was when I'd shoot a few closely spaced shots.
I shoot on the street a lot (architecture, cityscapes and cars
mostly), and would easily hit the buffer limit if something popped up
right after I'd taken a couple shots. Same thing when bracketing, had
to wait for the camera to write out the buffer before taking the next
set of bracketed shots. I found this endlessly frustrating with the
K100D (and the *istD, which offered a slightly larger buffer, but way
slower writes).


 I found the DS to have the
 best ergonomics overall (the grip on the D is too shallow, the K10D is
 about midway between the two and the K100D was a almost as nice a
 handful, but not as solid).

 Thanks for confirming the ergonomics.  Can you give your comments on
 the view finder differences btwn the DS (prism) and K100D (mirror -
 which the K200D also has)?

 Pats


The mirror finder is smaller, noticeably dimmer and somewhat harder to
determine critical focus with. I could live with the mirror when using
fastish zooms, but with slow lenses or fast primes it was an issue
(too dim with the slow lenses, not able to determine critical focus
with the fast ones).

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Re: FPS

2008-06-11 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:45 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yep, machine gun away, then wade through the Chaff to get to the single
 germ of wheat.  Hell I don't have enough time to examine all the shots I
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Bracketing?

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Re: The Eys is Katz ;-)

2008-06-11 Thread Bong Manayon
Congratulations Boris!  Did you say somewhere you got it with the Optibrite?

Bong

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 The focusing screen arrived. Sans yet another round of outrageous postal
 taxes, I've installed it right away. Actually it was fairly simple and
 even clumsy me could do it. Now I can properly focus the A 50/1.2 at
 f1.2 and get predictably sharp pictures. I really think that the idea of
 no lines whatsoever in the frame was good. It feels oddly convenient.

 And to my utter pleasure I can monitor the AF performance now.

 Long live PDML!

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Re: The Eys is Katz ;-)

2008-06-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Yes indeed. It has no marks but optibrite treatment. I did not notice 
any adverse effect on the exposure but it is getting late here and 
naturally I need to do much more shooting with the screen to draw a 
meaningful conclusion.

Boris



Bong Manayon wrote:
 Congratulations Boris!  Did you say somewhere you got it with the Optibrite?
 
 Bong
 
 On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:00 AM, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!

 The focusing screen arrived. Sans yet another round of outrageous postal
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Re: FPS

2008-06-11 Thread David Savage
2008/6/12 frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:45 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yep, machine gun away, then wade through the Chaff to get to the single
 germ of wheat.  Hell I don't have enough time to examine all the shots I
 take now when I bracket.

 Bracketing?

It's a landscape thing.

Cheers,

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Re: FPS

2008-06-11 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:55 PM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It's a landscape thing.

Oh...

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Re: OT: Welcome back, Marnie

2008-06-11 Thread ann sanfedele


Marnie!
I've hardly been here either - just a quick scroll through the subject 
lines found that post that you were back  -

MIssed ya

ann

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Good to see you posting again,  young lady.
Paul

=
Hey, thanks, Paul, Boris, Bob, Dave, and  that other guy. :-)

I took a trip, and since then been working on condo  getting it ready to sell.

Still lot more to do on that. Been very busy,  but starting to see light at 
the end of the tunnel.

Missed ya' guys  too.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: Flash Forward 2007

2008-06-11 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This weekend I was reading some photography books at a local bookstore
 and I found this project that publishes some of work of emerging
 photographers from Canada, US and UK. Some nice portraiture, some
 intriguing shots; for those who like to look at this kind of
 photographs should be enjoyable.

 The website has the book in pdf to download for free:
 http://www.magentafoundation.org/en/projects/flash_forward/2007/FF07-preview.pdf



 Project link: http://www.magentafoundation.org/en/projects/flash_forward/2007/



Wow, great stuff!!

Thanks for posting it.  I'll keep my eyes open, but if you ever find
out when the exhibition is, let us know the details.

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RE: FPS

2008-06-11 Thread Bob W
 
 2008/6/12 frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:45 PM, P. J. Alling 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Yep, machine gun away, then wade through the Chaff to get 
 to the single
  germ of wheat.  Hell I don't have enough time to examine 
 all the shots I
  take now when I bracket.
 
  Bracketing?
 
 It's a landscape thing.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Dave :-)
 

you need 60 fps with +/- 3 stops autobracketing in 1/3 stop increments
to catch the subtle nuances of the changing light.

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Re: Flash contact pins

2008-06-11 Thread Tim Øsleby
Nail polish does not work. At least none in my household. Tried three
different types. Two coloured with flakes, and one clear.

MaritimTim

2008/6/11 Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Tried gaffer tape. The pins perforated it.

 MaritimTim

 2008/6/11 Peter Loveday [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Try slipping a thin piece of plastic into the shoe, under all the pins.
 IIRC, you can buy dummy shoes, made of plastic with no contacts, to
 deal with this problem.

 I have the same problem with a cheap off-camera-flash bracket.  I just
 take a sheet of paper and fold it over to about four thicknesses and
 slip that between the foot of the flash and the bottom of the shoe on
 the bracket.

 I've had the same issue with hotshoes on umbrella swivels... I find a piece
 of Gaffer Tape stays on okay for me.

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Re: OT - paintings

2008-06-11 Thread ann sanfedele
Scott - check out this web site

http://tinyurl.com/3nfbze

sorry...
ann



Scott Loveless wrote:

frank theriault wrote:
  

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hey, gang.  Several years ago Christie and I purchased a painting from
an antique dealer in St. Louis.  It wasn't very expensive and neither of
us know jack about paintings, but we liked it.  It's been hanging over
the sofa ever since.  Anyway, would those of you with an eye for this
sort of thing take a quick look and tell me what you think?  The name at
the bottom is Bene` if it's too hard to see.

http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/Paintings/photo?authkey=E3lck7Uhzo0#5210627485032516322

Much appreciated.
  

I appreciate poker playing dogs, clowns with big eyes and velvet
renditions of Elvis.

Yours is of a genre that I'm not familiar with.

Sorry.



I could tilt it.  Would that help?  :)


  




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Re: PESO - White Tulips

2008-06-11 Thread ann sanfedele
frank theriault wrote:

Okay, they were yellow to begin with, but they converted so nicely to
BW, I couldn't resist.

Yellow DOES convert to bw nicely -- better than actual white...
this is a lovely shot... I'm glad you converted it to BW

ann


http://tinyurl.com/3of69b

http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SEkuTTxPHYI/CPE/k5K4-v9W8T0/s1600-h/jun_6_08+003.jpg

Comments always welcome.

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GESO - A stroll around the theatre district

2008-06-11 Thread Doug Brewer
Quick gallery of our afternoon in NYC Sunday

http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=262

enjoy

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Re: GESO - A stroll around the theatre district

2008-06-11 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Quick gallery of our afternoon in NYC Sunday

 http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=262

 enjoy

Nice tilt on a few of those...

:-)

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Re: GESO - A stroll around the theatre district

2008-06-11 Thread Christine Aguila
Doug:  Those are really excellent pictures.  Compelling subjects wonderfully 
composed.  Cheers, Christine


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 http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=262

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Re: Flash Forward 2007

2008-06-11 Thread Fernando
You are welcome Frank; I'll keep you posted;

BTW I read in the Toronto flickr group that a bunch of photographers
is having an exhibit @  Passion (formerly Saigon Sister), 774 Yonge St
south of Bloor (I don't know if that close to where you live but I saw
you once posted a shot of the Rosedale subway station, so you might be
close, I guess ;-)  )

PS: No idea what kind of photography they shoot (I believe Adam knows
some of them)

On 6/11/08, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  This weekend I was reading some photography books at a local bookstore
  and I found this project that publishes some of work of emerging
  photographers from Canada, US and UK. Some nice portraiture, some
  intriguing shots; for those who like to look at this kind of
  photographs should be enjoyable.
 
  The website has the book in pdf to download for free:
  http://www.magentafoundation.org/en/projects/flash_forward/2007/FF07-preview.pdf
 
 
 
  Project link: 
  http://www.magentafoundation.org/en/projects/flash_forward/2007/
 
 

 Wow, great stuff!!

 Thanks for posting it.  I'll keep my eyes open, but if you ever find
 out when the exhibition is, let us know the details.

 cheers,
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Re: GESO - A stroll around the theatre district

2008-06-11 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Quick gallery of our afternoon in NYC Sunday

 http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=262

 enjoy

But seriously, they're all good, but this is my fave:

http://www.drivingtheflies.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/dontlooknow.jpg

Great stuff, Doug!  (as usual)

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Re: GESO - A stroll around the theatre district

2008-06-11 Thread pnstenquist
Cool. I see the Times Square subway station has been upgraded since I left 
town. And there's a new Helen Hayes theater. I believe the original was torn 
down.
Paul
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Re: Flash Forward 2007

2008-06-11 Thread Fernando
Sorry, forgot to add the exhibit is on Thursday from 7pm 'til midnight

On 6/11/08, Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You are welcome Frank; I'll keep you posted;

 BTW I read in the Toronto flickr group that a bunch of photographers
 is having an exhibit @  Passion (formerly Saigon Sister), 774 Yonge St
 south of Bloor (I don't know if that close to where you live but I saw
 you once posted a shot of the Rosedale subway station, so you might be
 close, I guess ;-)  )

 PS: No idea what kind of photography they shoot (I believe Adam knows
 some of them)

 On 6/11/08, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   This weekend I was reading some photography books at a local bookstore
   and I found this project that publishes some of work of emerging
   photographers from Canada, US and UK. Some nice portraiture, some
   intriguing shots; for those who like to look at this kind of
   photographs should be enjoyable.
  
   The website has the book in pdf to download for free:
   http://www.magentafoundation.org/en/projects/flash_forward/2007/FF07-preview.pdf
  
  
  
   Project link: 
   http://www.magentafoundation.org/en/projects/flash_forward/2007/
  
  
 
  Wow, great stuff!!
 
  Thanks for posting it.  I'll keep my eyes open, but if you ever find
  out when the exhibition is, let us know the details.
 
  cheers,
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Re: GESO - A stroll around the theatre district

2008-06-11 Thread Fernando
What Frank said *2

On 6/11/08, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Quick gallery of our afternoon in NYC Sunday
 
  http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=262
 
  enjoy

 But seriously, they're all good, but this is my fave:

 http://www.drivingtheflies.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/dontlooknow.jpg

 Great stuff, Doug!  (as usual)

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PESO - Easy Decision?

2008-06-11 Thread frank theriault
I don't know why, but I like this one:

http://tinyurl.com/5n6a62

http://www.drivingtheflies.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/dontlooknow.jpg

Let me know what you think.

Thanks!

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Re: PESO - Easy Decision?

2008-06-11 Thread Scott Loveless
frank theriault wrote:
 I don't know why, but I like this one:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/5n6a62
 
 http://www.drivingtheflies.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/dontlooknow.jpg
 
 Let me know what you think.
 
I think Doug might be a little peeved.  That's what I think.


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Re: PESO - Easy Decision?

2008-06-11 Thread Jack Davis
I think it's the Hitchcock background and tilt.

Jack


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 I don't know why, but I like this one:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/5n6a62
 
 http://www.drivingtheflies.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/dontlooknow.jpg
 
 Let me know what you think.
 
 Thanks!
 
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Re: Flash Forward 2007

2008-06-11 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You are welcome Frank; I'll keep you posted;

 BTW I read in the Toronto flickr group that a bunch of photographers
 is having an exhibit @  Passion (formerly Saigon Sister), 774 Yonge St
 south of Bloor (I don't know if that close to where you live but I saw
 you once posted a shot of the Rosedale subway station, so you might be
 close, I guess ;-)  )

 PS: No idea what kind of photography they shoot (I believe Adam knows
 some of them)

Hey, Fernando,

I live at Yonge and Eglinton (used to live near Rosedale Subway about
a year ago), so I'd be very close to 774 Yonge by either subway or
bike.

Actually I think I saw a call for submissions for that place,
advertised on Craigslist or some such place.  I'd have considered
replying, but money is a bit tight these days (when isn't it?) and I
can't afford to be printing and framing stuff right now - that is if
they accepted anything.

;-)

Anyway, I might just check that out.

We should get a TOPDML thing going soon, now that the good weather's
here.  Dave, Adam, you out there?

:-)

cheers,
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PESO - Easy Decision - with the right URL this time

2008-06-11 Thread frank theriault
Apologies to the Listmeister!

http://tinyurl.com/5wm7ms

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Re: K20D and K200D cashback in the UK

2008-06-11 Thread Mark Roberts
P. J. Alling wrote:
 There's been a $100 rebate on the K20D for a while now, several weeks at 
 least IIRC.

Yes, I believe it started two days after I got my K20d...
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Re: PESO - Easy Decision?

2008-06-11 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think it's the Hitchcock background and tilt.

Another photographer did a very similar take on this one recently...

Seriously, Jack, I accidentally posted a pic of Doug Brewer's - send
him your kudos!

I was in the middle of posting, looked at Doug's GESO, commented on
one of his (using a cut and paste), then inadvertantly used his url
for my post.

Oops!

Apologies to all.

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Re: PESO - Easy Decision?

2008-06-11 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think Doug might be a little peeved.  That's what I think.

What makes you think Doug didn't steal my pic?

The guy's blurry and it's tilted...

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Re: PESO - Easy Decision?

2008-06-11 Thread Doug Brewer

On Jun 11, 2008, at 5:18 PM, frank theriault wrote:

 On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Scott Loveless  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think Doug might be a little peeved.  That's what I think.

 What makes you think Doug didn't steal my pic?

 The guy's blurry and it's tilted...

heh. I had to do a quick shot on this. He had been talking on his  
phone while I was approaching, and he was looking like he'd walk  
away, so I shot without bringing the camera to my eye. Good thing,  
because he bolted right after.

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Re: PESO - Easy Decision?

2008-06-11 Thread ann sanfedele
frank theriault wrote:

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

I think it's the Hitchcock background and tilt.



Another photographer did a very similar take on this one recently...

Seriously, Jack, I accidentally posted a pic of Doug Brewer's - send
him your kudos!

I was in the middle of posting, looked at Doug's GESO, commented on
one of his (using a cut and paste), then inadvertantly used his url
for my post.

Oops!

Apologies to all.
  

cheers,
frank

  


  


Well I liked both his and yours...
But I'm sorry that Doug was actually in NY and didn't even call me - 
sniffle sniffle!

I could have pointed him to much nicer parts of town than Times 
Square... one of two places
I can't bear to go but for different reasons. (the other being the 
obvious - ground zero)...  

cheers too
ann (I love NY, I hate NY, I love NY, I hate NY)



  




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Re: PESO - Easy Decision?

2008-06-11 Thread Jack Davis
I didn't really get the title, but I assigned that to your indecision as to why 
you liked it. You didn't actually say that you shot it.
Just trying to help. G

Jack


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 From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: PESO - Easy Decision?
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 Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 2:17 PM
 On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Jack Davis
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I think it's the Hitchcock background and tilt.
 
 Another photographer did a very similar take on this one
 recently...
 
 Seriously, Jack, I accidentally posted a pic of Doug
 Brewer's - send
 him your kudos!
 
 I was in the middle of posting, looked at Doug's GESO,
 commented on
 one of his (using a cut and paste), then inadvertantly used
 his url
 for my post.
 
 Oops!
 
 Apologies to all.
 
 cheers,
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Re: PESO - Easy Decision?

2008-06-11 Thread pnstenquist
I'm confused. As usual. But I like both Frank and Doug's pics. The guy in the 
clutches is a super grab. The exit/ no exit pic is superb. Great rendering. But 
I'd clone out the grim reaper exiting stage left. I think. But that's probably 
just me being anal.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I think it's the Hitchcock background and tilt.
 
 Another photographer did a very similar take on this one recently...
 
 Seriously, Jack, I accidentally posted a pic of Doug Brewer's - send
 him your kudos!
 
 I was in the middle of posting, looked at Doug's GESO, commented on
 one of his (using a cut and paste), then inadvertantly used his url
 for my post.
 
 Oops!
 
 Apologies to all.
 
 cheers,
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PESO 2008 - 87 - GDG

2008-06-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Made this photo while visiting San Francisco on Saturday for a photo  
workshop.

   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/87-cups.jpg
   Cups - This Cafe Life 2008
   Olympus E-1 + ZD 35mm f/3.5 Macro
   ISO 400 @ f/3.5 @ 1/2500 sec

Comments and critique always appreciated.

enjoy
Godfrey

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Re: PESO 2008 - 87 - GDG

2008-06-11 Thread Mike Hamilton
On 11-Jun-08, at 5:18 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 Made this photo while visiting San Francisco on Saturday for a photo
 workshop.

   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/87-cups.jpg
   Cups - This Cafe Life 2008
   Olympus E-1 + ZD 35mm f/3.5 Macro
   ISO 400 @ f/3.5 @ 1/2500 sec

 Comments and critique always appreciated.


Godfrey-
   I really like the strong shapes and contrast.  It bothers me  
slightly that the shelves are slanted - that's one thing I'd adjust.

Nice work.

Mike

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Re: PESO 2008 - 87 - GDG

2008-06-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Jun 11, 2008, at 4:27 PM, Mike Hamilton wrote:

 On 11-Jun-08, at 5:18 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 Made this photo while visiting San Francisco on Saturday for a photo
 workshop.

   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/87-cups.jpg
   Cups - This Cafe Life 2008
   Olympus E-1 + ZD 35mm f/3.5 Macro
   ISO 400 @ f/3.5 @ 1/2500 sec

 Comments and critique always appreciated.


 Godfrey-
I really like the strong shapes and contrast.  It bothers me
 slightly that the shelves are slanted - that's one thing I'd adjust.

 Nice work.

Thanks Mike!

One shelf is straight and level ... the others bend relative to that  
one. I used a bit of rotation and compromised ... I didn't want to go  
into warping the perspectives, as I kind of like the slightly off  
nature of the whole.

If I'd had a tripod, I would have used a level of course. ;-)

Godfrey

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RE: OT - paintings

2008-06-11 Thread Anthony Farr
Geza Bene was the only painter of the likely period that I could find
through Google, as well.  And yet his work was mostly a sort of soft-core
cubism.  If there was an impressionist period to his work there's no
evidence of it on the web.  Anne's link is to a copying studio where you can
order replicas, but this doesn't mean that Scott's picture is a replica, but
I have to say that the fillet inside the gilt frame seems modern.

The scene looks like Nice, particularly the style of the market stalls, the
way they recede into the alleyway from the open square, and the prominence
of the flower stalls.  
http://bp1.blogger.com/_dJKxqNUVibE/RqMLQbHjfjI/BIM/yBvyZJatT0I/s160
0-h/0715077topNICE+MARKET.JPG

http://bp0.blogger.com/_oNq86DbmNvo/RqOVJ3u8tKI/ARM/laBwPHZCc_0/s160
0-h/Nice-Markets-01.JPG

Geza Bene was Hungarian, he could have traveled but that fact does stretch
the odds a little.

Bene also means good, as in benefit, so it could be part of an obscured
title.  There must also be a multitude of undiscovered Benes.  Scott's
idea to lift the backing paper seems good to me.

Regards,
Anthony Farr

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 sanfedele
 Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2008 5:26 AM
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 Subject: Re: OT - paintings
 
 Scott - check out this web site
 
 http://tinyurl.com/3nfbze
 
 sorry...
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Re: OT - paintings

2008-06-11 Thread pnstenquist
No need to be sorry. That work is all cubist. Definitely not the style of 
Scott's painting.
Oayk
 -- Original message --
From: ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Scott - check out this web site
 
 http://tinyurl.com/3nfbze
 
 sorry...
 ann
 
 
 
 Scott Loveless wrote:
 
 frank theriault wrote:
   
 
 On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Hey, gang.  Several years ago Christie and I purchased a painting from
 an antique dealer in St. Louis.  It wasn't very expensive and neither of
 us know jack about paintings, but we liked it.  It's been hanging over
 the sofa ever since.  Anyway, would those of you with an eye for this
 sort of thing take a quick look and tell me what you think?  The name at
 the bottom is Bene` if it's too hard to see.
 
 http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/Paintings/photo?authkey=E3lck7Uhzo0#5
 210627485032516322
 
 Much appreciated.
   
 
 I appreciate poker playing dogs, clowns with big eyes and velvet
 renditions of Elvis.
 
 Yours is of a genre that I'm not familiar with.
 
 Sorry.
 
 
 
 I could tilt it.  Would that help?  :)
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
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RE: PESO 2008 - 87 - GDG

2008-06-11 Thread Anthony Farr
I like these graphical vignettes that you do.  The only things I'd change
are to level up on the middle shelf rather than the top shelf, and to get
further back with a longer lens so there'd be less divergence between the
shelves.

Keep them coming, I always enjoy your work.

Regards,
Anthony Farr

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 Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2008 9:18 AM
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 Subject: PESO 2008 - 87 - GDG
 
 Made this photo while visiting San Francisco on Saturday for a photo
 workshop.
 
http://homepage.mac.com/godders/87-cups.jpg
Cups - This Cafe Life 2008
Olympus E-1 + ZD 35mm f/3.5 Macro
ISO 400 @ f/3.5 @ 1/2500 sec
 
 Comments and critique always appreciated.
 
 enjoy
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Re: Flash contact pins

2008-06-11 Thread Peter Loveday
 Tried gaffer tape. The pins perforated it.

Hmm right.  Works for me, but perhaps your hotshoes are a tighter fit.

Some hotshoe (well, coldshoe really) adapters actually have a channel right 
down the centre to avoid any contact at all.  The shoe is still gripped on 
the edges.

Like the shoe on this:  http://tinyurl.com/6rlkuc

You could probably file/dremel a similar channel.  I guess this might be a 
little less sturdy / more likely to break the flash.  hard to say.

- Peter


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RE: GESO - A stroll around the theatre district

2008-06-11 Thread Anthony Farr
http://www.drivingtheflies.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/sayah.jpg

I love how this looks like a beached yacht, including its mast and rigging
(the lightpole and diagonal ray of light on the wall behind.

Well seen.

Regards,
Anthony Farr

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 Quick gallery of our afternoon in NYC Sunday
 
 http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=262
 
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RE: GESO: Club 77

2008-06-11 Thread Anthony Farr
Bob, Derby,

I saw the same effect that Bob describes, but it only happens the first time
you fade to a new page, in the moment before the next picture loads.  You
are seeing the old picture fading out over the grey background of the new
page.  When I repeated the process, this time with the next picture
pre-loaded in the cache, the effect wasn't there because the old picture
faded straight into the new one.

I reckon you are seeing a phenomenon similar to pre-flashing where the
shadow tones are lifted by the empty exposure of the grey field.

Regards,
Anthony Farr

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 Derby,
 Take the 4th shot in as an example - girl in striped dress with
 squeeze-box looking down.
 I only get gross details in the hair toward the front of her face.
 As the picture fades, I can see the shape of her head and the hair farther
back.
 The details in the BW image seem to emerge as the intensity is turned
down.
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 3:49 AM, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks Bob, Fernando, Christine.
 
  Bob, I'm curious about what you are seeing. Are the pics too bright and
  the details clipped on your monitor?
 
  regs
  Derby
 
 
 
 
  Bob Sullivan wrote:
  Derby,
  I especially like some ob the color shots, especially with the strong
  colors and blur.
  I am always troubled by the fad on your gallery BW photos.
  I see a lot more detail in the faces and hair as the photo fades out
  than I do in the static presentation.
  I don't know why that is, but think the shots would be improved by
  these details.
  Maybe it's just my latop and the north light over my shoulder...
  Regards,  Bob S.
 
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  Haven't posted much lately, but I have been enjoying reading the list,
  espesh the GFM stuff.
 
  Last night at Club 77, near Kings Cross.
 
  http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_06/08_06_club77/index.htm
 
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Re: PESO - Easy Decision?

2008-06-11 Thread Jack Davis
Frank, I think this image was posted a year or two back? Is it another 
plagiarism job or did you actually take this one. :;:;)))

Jack


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 I'm confused. As usual. But I like both Frank and
 Doug's pics. The guy in the clutches is a super grab.
 The exit/ no exit pic is superb. Great rendering. But
 I'd clone out the grim reaper exiting stage left. I
 think. But that's probably just me being anal.
 Paul
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  On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Jack Davis
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I think it's the Hitchcock background and
 tilt.
  
  Another photographer did a very similar take on this
 one recently...
  
  Seriously, Jack, I accidentally posted a pic of Doug
 Brewer's - send
  him your kudos!
  
  I was in the middle of posting, looked at Doug's
 GESO, commented on
  one of his (using a cut and paste), then inadvertantly
 used his url
  for my post.
  
  Oops!
  
  Apologies to all.
  
  cheers,
  frank
  
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PESO: Kimberly

2008-06-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
Another pic from my model portfolio shoot. I'll post a small gallery  
of the selects some time soon. But I like this one.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7397098


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Re: OT - paintings

2008-06-11 Thread ann sanfedele
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No need to be sorry. That work is all cubist. Definitely not the style of 
Scott's painting.
Oayk

Well it is a copy shop -- that's what I was thinking...  Scott said he 
didn't pay much for it.
read anthony's post... he knows more about Bene - but just because the 
stuff at that one site was cubist doesn't
mean they couldn't have been originally painted by the same person...

I didn't pursue it farther... but Anthony wrote a very good post about 
the guy

ann

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Scott - check out this web site

http://tinyurl.com/3nfbze

sorry...
ann



Scott Loveless wrote:



frank theriault wrote:
 

  

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   



Hey, gang.  Several years ago Christie and I purchased a painting from
an antique dealer in St. Louis.  It wasn't very expensive and neither of
us know jack about paintings, but we liked it.  It's been hanging over
the sofa ever since.  Anyway, would those of you with an eye for this
sort of thing take a quick look and tell me what you think?  The name at
the bottom is Bene` if it's too hard to see.

http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/Paintings/photo?authkey=E3lck7Uhzo0#5
  

210627485032516322


Much appreciated.
 

  

I appreciate poker playing dogs, clowns with big eyes and velvet
renditions of Elvis.

Yours is of a genre that I'm not familiar with.

Sorry.

   



I could tilt it.  Would that help?  :)


 

  


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Re: PESO: Kimberly

2008-06-11 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul,
Why does she always look kind of peeved?
Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: PESO: Kimberly

2008-06-11 Thread David Savage
Nice photo, but after having looked through some of the others, I'd 
say that she needs to learn a few more expressions.

Cheers,

Dave

At 10:47 AM 12/06/2008, Paul Stenquist wrote:
Another pic from my model portfolio shoot. I'll post a small gallery
of the selects some time soon. But I like this one.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7397098


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Re: PESO - Easy Decision - with the right URL this time

2008-06-11 Thread P. J. Alling
Amusing, especially as the No Exit is a simple revolving door, how do 
they enforce that, big men with clubs?

frank theriault wrote:
 Apologies to the Listmeister!

 http://tinyurl.com/5wm7ms

 http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SE_Ef-4_-uI/CRU/XLNS1bzdBuY/s1600-h/jun_11_08+002.jpg

 Comments welcome (assuming I haven't been booted off the list for plagerism!)

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