Re: [OT] Leica M8 Field Test

2008-06-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/6/08, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed:

* The 1:1 finder is something you have to try to know how freeing it is. 
It allows you to have both eyes open, framelines floating in space. When 
focusing is critical, or in low-light and the rangefinder image is a bit 
dim, I close my right eye, but otherwise, it's look and shoot

Thanks Derby.

If shooting street, then I frequently set ISO to 800, aperture to f8,
and hyperfocus, so no focus required before shooting.

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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-14 Thread Cotty
On 13/6/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:


 http://homepage.mac.com/cottycam/PhotoAlbum8.html


Very nice.  I've got the same view outside my study window as your Hamilton 
shot.  And as Derby said, nice crisp shots.  Glad you had a nice trip. 
Cheers, Christine 

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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-14 Thread Henk Terhell
I like Tom in particular.

Henk

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 6 grabs from NY and NJ recently.
 
 http://homepage.mac.com/cottycam/PhotoAlbum8.html
 
 
 

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WTB: DA 18-55 in Oz

2008-06-14 Thread Peter Loveday
Geetings!

Anyone in Oz got a DA 18-55 kit lens they'd like to get rid of?  I'm looking 
to put together a kit for my old *istD to give to a friend, and would prefer 
to hold on to my 16-45.

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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-14 Thread Carlos Royo


Henk Terhell escribió:
 I like Tom in particular.
 
 Henk
 

I second Henk's comment. It's a very nice photo.

Carlos

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Re: Its official

2008-06-14 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 8:27 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If the K200D is a pro camera does that make the K20D and uber pro camera?

Might be.

I -was-going to post this over at the other forum, but i did not want
to cause undue panic, in this heat.:-)

Dave

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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-14 Thread David J Brooks
Arg.

Great photos, and the camera seems to be very good.

Just cannot justify a $3000 purchase these days.

Dave

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Re: Its official

2008-06-14 Thread David Savage
2008/6/14 David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 8:27 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If the K200D is a pro camera does that make the K20D and uber pro camera?

 Might be.

 I -was-going to post this over at the other forum, but i did not want
 to cause undue panic, in this heat.:-)

It's winter here.

Post away...

:-)

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Re: Its official

2008-06-14 Thread mike wilson
Looks more like an acronym for Photography Review Online to me
 
 From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/06/13 Fri PM 10:00:05 GMT
 To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Its official
 
 Pentax is a pro camera.
 
 
 UPCOMING PRO REVIEWS:
  Pentax K200D, Olympus E-420, Olympus E-520, Olympus Stylus 1030 SW,
  Sigma DP1, Olympus Stylus 1020, Sony Cybershot DSC-W150, Casio Exilim
  EX-S10, Samsung NV40, and more!
 
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Re: Re: GESO: Anne

2008-06-14 Thread mike wilson

 
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 Once you've figured (out) why a picture didn't work, don't repeat that 
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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nice pics. Love the Jersey City wires. Is the stoplight pic on the  
street leading up to the Holland Tunnel?
Paul
On Jun 14, 2008, at 6:52 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Arg.

 Great photos, and the camera seems to be very good.

 Just cannot justify a $3000 purchase these days.

 Dave

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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-14 Thread Mat Maessen
On 6/14/08, Henk Terhell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I like Tom in particular.
...
   http://homepage.mac.com/cottycam/PhotoAlbum8.html

I like the Tom shot as well. Though I find myself wanting a bit more
midtone contrast in both of the BW shots. Maybe a bit of curves?

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OT: My Saturday Project

2008-06-14 Thread David Savage
G'day All,

One for those who like to tinker. This is what I did for the second
part of today:

in bits
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3052/2577064933_9f3a7b0433_o.jpg

Assembled
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3156/2577065957_5b5336094c_o.jpg

In operation
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3192/2577898920_9f3a579fd6_o.jpg

A handy addition for those who like to use off camera flash I reckon.

Cheers,

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Re: OT: My Saturday Project

2008-06-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nice work. You could market that.
Paul
On Jun 14, 2008, at 10:29 AM, David Savage wrote:

 G'day All,

 One for those who like to tinker. This is what I did for the second
 part of today:

 in bits
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3052/2577064933_9f3a7b0433_o.jpg

 Assembled
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3156/2577065957_5b5336094c_o.jpg

 In operation
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3192/2577898920_9f3a579fd6_o.jpg

 A handy addition for those who like to use off camera flash I reckon.

 Cheers,

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Re: OT: My Saturday Project

2008-06-14 Thread Jack Davis
Nice! I paid $8.00 USD for the same sort of thing. 
Looks like yours would last a lot longer.

Jack


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 Date: Saturday, June 14, 2008, 7:29 AM
 G'day All,
 
 One for those who like to tinker. This is what I did for
 the second
 part of today:
 
 in bits
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3052/2577064933_9f3a7b0433_o.jpg
 
 Assembled
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3156/2577065957_5b5336094c_o.jpg
 
 In operation
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3192/2577898920_9f3a579fd6_o.jpg
 
 A handy addition for those who like to use off camera flash
 I reckon.
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: OT: My Saturday Project

2008-06-14 Thread P. J. Alling
He could never compete on price with the extruded plastic ones from China...

Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Nice work. You could market that.
 Paul
 On Jun 14, 2008, at 10:29 AM, David Savage wrote:

   
 G'day All,

 One for those who like to tinker. This is what I did for the second
 part of today:

 in bits
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3052/2577064933_9f3a7b0433_o.jpg

 Assembled
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3156/2577065957_5b5336094c_o.jpg

 In operation
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3192/2577898920_9f3a579fd6_o.jpg

 A handy addition for those who like to use off camera flash I reckon.

 Cheers,

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Re: PESO: Suburban Star Gazing

2008-06-14 Thread David Savage
2008/6/14 frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 12:35 PM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 G'day All,

 One from this evening/morning (~65kb)

 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3024/2575077353_003a795c3e_o.jpg

 K20D, DA 10-17mm FE @ 11mm, 225 seconds @ f4, ISO 100.


 Is that 225 seconds?  I guess it would be.  No wonder the person's a
 bit blurry!  ;-)

I always look like that :-)

 Lovely shot - beautiful sky colour.  Terrific composition.

Thanks mate.

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Re: PESO: Suburban Star Gazing

2008-06-14 Thread David Savage
Cheers Paul.

Dave

2008/6/14  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Nice composition. Works for me.
 Paul
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 G'day All,

 One from this evening/morning (~65kb)

 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3024/2575077353_003a795c3e_o.jpg

 K20D, DA 10-17mm FE @ 11mm, 225 seconds @ f4, ISO 100.

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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-14 Thread Doug Brewer

On Jun 13, 2008, at 6:21 PM, Cotty wrote:

 6 grabs from NY and NJ recently.

 http://homepage.mac.com/cottycam/PhotoAlbum8.html

Nice job, Steve. I especially like the Jersey city shot. I likes me  
some wires.

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Re: PESO: Suburban Star Gazing

2008-06-14 Thread David Savage
2008/6/14 Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Jun 13, 2008, at 11:35, David Savage wrote:
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3024/2575077353_003a795c3e_o.jpg

 K20D, DA 10-17mm FE @ 11mm, 225 seconds @ f4, ISO 100.

 That's a lovely shade of violet in the sky.  I like it.

Thanks Charles.

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Re: Memory Card Problem.

2008-06-14 Thread wendy beard
That's a bugger.

On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 11:30 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A short while ago I bough a few cheap and cheerful 8GB cards.

 Today at the dog show, I was shooting a series of pictures using the K20 and 
 the 540 FGZ flash
 when the camera stopped working, and I got a memory card error, specifically 
 that the camera
 couldn't write the file, and that it had been lost.
 And it was.
 Lost, that is.


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Re: PESO: Suburban Star Gazing

2008-06-14 Thread David Savage
2008/6/14 Beaker [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Nice lighting, and a lovely color to the sky.
 A black sky would have been even better from a astronomical point of
 view-
 but that would put you out in the middle of nowhere. Can't have
 everything, I guess.

Yeah, I shot a couple with a black sky, but they lacked the foreground details.

 One of the local astro clubs observes from a park about 25 miles west
 of Baltimore, MD.
 Its light dome is affectionally known as the 'Baltimore Nebula

Har!

Thanks for looking.

Cheers,

Dave


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 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3024/2575077353_003a795c3e_o.jpg
 K20D, DA 10-17mm FE @ 11mm, 225 seconds @ f4, ISO 100.

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Re: PESO: Suburban Star Gazing

2008-06-14 Thread P. J. Alling
In that case I believe that Frank is looking for models...

David Savage wrote:
 2008/6/14 frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
 On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 12:35 PM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 G'day All,

 One from this evening/morning (~65kb)

 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3024/2575077353_003a795c3e_o.jpg

 K20D, DA 10-17mm FE @ 11mm, 225 seconds @ f4, ISO 100.

   
 Is that 225 seconds?  I guess it would be.  No wonder the person's a
 bit blurry!  ;-)
 

 I always look like that :-)

   
 Lovely shot - beautiful sky colour.  Terrific composition.
 

 Thanks mate.

 Cheers,

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Re: Suburban Star Gazing

2008-06-14 Thread David Savage
2008/6/14 Christine  Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Lovely, Dave.  I especially like that little highlight atop the person's
 head.  Sky is a beautiful color.  Cheers, Christine


Thanks Christine.

Give me a few years and the little highlight wil be a blinding glare ;-)

Cheers,


Dave


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 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3024/2575077353_003a795c3e_o.jpg
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Re: Memory Card Problem.

2008-06-14 Thread Rick Womer
I recently bought a 2GB Lexar card for $24, which is
what it used to cost me to buy and process 2 rolls of
slide film.

There seems little point in buying cheapo memory
cards.

Rick


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 A short while ago I bough a few cheap and cheerful
 8GB cards.
 
 Today at the dog show, I was shooting a series of
 pictures using the K20 and the 540 FGZ flash 
 when the camera stopped working, and I got a memory
 card error, specifically that the camera 
 couldn't write the file, and that it had been lost.
 And it was.
 Lost, that is.
 
 
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Re: OT: My Saturday Project

2008-06-14 Thread David Savage
If I had access to that kind of plastic manufacturing machinery I
would have made it out of plastic.

However this was more of an exercise in getting away from the computer
for an afternoon, as well as making a useful piece of gear.

Cheers,

Dave


2008/6/15 P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 He could never compete on price with the extruded plastic ones from China...

 Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Nice work. You could market that.
 Paul
 On Jun 14, 2008, at 10:29 AM, David Savage wrote:
 in bits
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3052/2577064933_9f3a7b0433_o.jpg
 Assembled
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3156/2577065957_5b5336094c_o.jpg
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 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3192/2577898920_9f3a579fd6_o.jpg

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Re: Its official

2008-06-14 Thread John Francis

Stop trying to confuse people with facts.  After all, this is PDML!

On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 12:08:06PM +, mike wilson wrote:
 Looks more like an acronym for Photography Review Online to me
  
  From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2008/06/13 Fri PM 10:00:05 GMT
  To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net
  Subject: Its official
  
  Pentax is a pro camera.
  
  
  UPCOMING PRO REVIEWS:
   Pentax K200D, Olympus E-420, Olympus E-520, Olympus Stylus 1030 SW,
   Sigma DP1, Olympus Stylus 1020, Sony Cybershot DSC-W150, Casio Exilim
   EX-S10, Samsung NV40, and more!
  
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  Quote from the recent Newsletter from Photographyreview, i received today.
  
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It's not what you pay for the equipment it's how you use it.

2008-06-14 Thread P. J. Alling
I got this from The Online Photographer, it's a running e-bay auction, 
but I doubt that anyone will complain and if they do then tough.

http://tinyurl.com/4rxn5p

I was going to try to work this into a MasterCard riff but simaly just 
fails me...

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K20D raw format support

2008-06-14 Thread AlunFoto
Gang,

The K20D has been with us for a couple of months. Now I'm curious
which raw file converters support its PEF files.

Any experiences?

Best,
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Re: Its official

2008-06-14 Thread mike wilson
Sorry.  Won't happen again.
 
 From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/06/14 Sat PM 05:55:28 GMT
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 Subject: Re: Its official
 
 
 Stop trying to confuse people with facts.  After all, this is PDML!
 
 On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 12:08:06PM +, mike wilson wrote:
  Looks more like an acronym for Photography Review Online to me
   
   From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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   Pentax is a pro camera.
   
   
   UPCOMING PRO REVIEWS:
Pentax K200D, Olympus E-420, Olympus E-520, Olympus Stylus 1030 SW,
Sigma DP1, Olympus Stylus 1020, Sony Cybershot DSC-W150, Casio Exilim
EX-S10, Samsung NV40, and more!
   
  Back to the Top[12]
   
   Quote from the recent Newsletter from Photographyreview, i received today.
   
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Re: It's not what you pay for the equipment it's how you use it.

2008-06-14 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/06/14 Sat PM 07:53:54 GMT
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 Subject: It's not what you pay for the equipment it's how you use it.
 
 I got this from The Online Photographer, it's a running e-bay auction, 
 but I doubt that anyone will complain and if they do then tough.
 
 http://tinyurl.com/4rxn5p
 
 I was going to try to work this into a MasterCard riff but simaly just 
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Item location Hong Kong?


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Re: K20D raw format support

2008-06-14 Thread P. J. Alling
Silky Pix after that I don't know...

AlunFoto wrote:
 Gang,

 The K20D has been with us for a couple of months. Now I'm curious
 which raw file converters support its PEF files.

 Any experiences?

 Best,
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Re: It's not what you pay for the equipment it's how you use it.

2008-06-14 Thread P. J. Alling
mike wilson wrote:
 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/06/14 Sat PM 07:53:54 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: It's not what you pay for the equipment it's how you use it.

 I got this from The Online Photographer, it's a running e-bay auction, 
 but I doubt that anyone will complain and if they do then tough.

 http://tinyurl.com/4rxn5p

 I was going to try to work this into a MasterCard riff but simaly just 
 fails me...
 

 Item location Hong Kong?
   
Hey, I don't make the news I just report it...

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K20D hot pixel firmware being developped

2008-06-14 Thread Thibouille
Don't think it was montionned before

http://www.imaging-resource.com/NEWS/1212174178.html

So it is official it seems.

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Re: K20D raw format support

2008-06-14 Thread AlunFoto
Ok, I guess I should start by adding the ones I know.

- LightZone: Yes
- Photoshop:  Yes
- SilkyPix: Yes
- RawTherapee: Yes
- ThumbsPlus: No

I assume that what goes for PhotoShop goes for Lightroom as well?

How about:
- Aperture?
- DxO?
- Bibble?
- FotoStation?
- Anything else worth mentioning?

Jostein

2008/6/14 P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Silky Pix after that I don't know...

 AlunFoto wrote:
 Gang,

 The K20D has been with us for a couple of months. Now I'm curious
 which raw file converters support its PEF files.

 Any experiences?

 Best,
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Re: K20D raw format support

2008-06-14 Thread Mark Roberts
AlunFoto wrote:
 Ok, I guess I should start by adding the ones I know.
 
 - LightZone: Yes
 - Photoshop:  Yes
 - SilkyPix: Yes
 - RawTherapee: Yes
 - ThumbsPlus: No
 
 I assume that what goes for PhotoShop goes for Lightroom as well?

Lightroom is working with K20D files for me.

 How about:
 - Aperture?

Just added, I believe.
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/application_updates/digitalcamerarawcompatibilityupdate21.html

 - DxO?
 - Bibble?
 - FotoStation?
 - Anything else worth mentioning?

Don't know about those. Of course, as long as Adobe DNG Converter works 
with K20D files (it does) all of those programs will work.


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RE: It's not what you pay for the equipment it's how you use it.

2008-06-14 Thread Bob W
  
  I got this from The Online Photographer, it's a running 
 e-bay auction, 
  but I doubt that anyone will complain and if they do then tough.
  
  http://tinyurl.com/4rxn5p
  
  I was going to try to work this into a MasterCard riff but 
 simaly just 
  fails me...
 
 Item location Hong Kong?
 

Google 'leica m5 prototype'. It's been up for sale before, apparently
the same people. 

On the photo.net thread about it someone wrote in Jan Calling this
the M5 prototype is a bit misleading[...]. This was a prototype for
A METERED M camera - but it appears in most of the history books dated
as an early 60's concept camera (note the external selenium meter),
long before there was even an M4, let alone plans for an M5 per se.


It doesn't look remotely like an M5, so I tend to agree with the
above.

The seller has a website here: http://arsenalphoto.com/ge/lmeng.asp.
They say they have a lot of stuff which was formerly property of the
Leitz Factory Museum, but to me it all smells strongly of fish. My
recommendation is that you keep your credit card in your wallet, but
send me 10% of the BIN price for my valuable advice. 

Bob


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Re: OT - eBay knocked down a peg

2008-06-14 Thread Leon Altoff
I haven't bought any equipment from e-bay for ages.

My first step when looking for equipment is KEH for a price check.  Then 
I check e-bay and I set my limit at what KEH charges.  Everything I have 
wanted has gone for more than KEH prices for longer than 3 months so I 
bought from KEH.

I really must get around to selling some more things on e-bay though.

  Leon

http://www.bluering.org.au
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 Quote:
 Australians should be questioning whether eBay is really looking
 after their best interests,
 Of course e-bay isn't looking out for their best interests, it's looking
 out for it's own.  If it servers the best interests of anyone else it's
 good if not bad and e-bay will lose market share.  Changes that have
 made it more and more difficult for the little guy to work with e-bay
 have caused me to care less and less about what they offer...
 
 I have 8 feedbacks from Sellers since i joined. Thats how much i use eek bay.
 
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Re: K20D raw format support

2008-06-14 Thread AlunFoto
I just made a little GoogleDocs spreadsheet to gather this info:

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pecuhsM9jAKO6f2laoptJbg

IIRC, I've done the same exercise for other camera models, but that
spreadsheet lives on another computer which I will not have access to
until Monday afternoon. Could be interesting to have a condensed
overview.

Jostein

2008/6/14 Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 AlunFoto wrote:
 Ok, I guess I should start by adding the ones I know.

 - LightZone: Yes
 - Photoshop:  Yes
 - SilkyPix: Yes
 - RawTherapee: Yes
 - ThumbsPlus: No

 I assume that what goes for PhotoShop goes for Lightroom as well?

 Lightroom is working with K20D files for me.

 How about:
 - Aperture?

 Just added, I believe.
 http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/application_updates/digitalcamerarawcompatibilityupdate21.html

 - DxO?
 - Bibble?
 - FotoStation?
 - Anything else worth mentioning?

 Don't know about those. Of course, as long as Adobe DNG Converter works
 with K20D files (it does) all of those programs will work.


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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-14 Thread Cotty


 I like Tom in particular.
 
 Henk
 

I second Henk's comment. It's a very nice photo.

Carlos


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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/6/08, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

Just cannot justify a $3000 purchase these days.

Dave, more like $1500 to $1800. Still a lot.

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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/6/08, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

Nice pics. Love the Jersey City wires. Is the stoplight pic on the  
street leading up to the Holland Tunnel?

You da man! Indeed it is. Our friend Keith lives fairly close, opposite
a park. I liked Jersey City.

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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/6/08, Mat Maessen, discombobulated, unleashed:

I like the Tom shot as well. Though I find myself wanting a bit more
midtone contrast in both of the BW shots. Maybe a bit of curves?

Thanks Matt. I had it more contrasty with curves but found that Tom was
losing his, ahh structural integrity, and I decided I liked seeing him
stand out from the background. Not a problem in colour of course

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Re: OT GESO: The Voice - Renee Gayer

2008-06-14 Thread Derby Chang
I do believe you are right. Much improved

D



Christine Aguila wrote:
 Derby:  I absolutely love 02.htm, the light, composition, pose--all 
 beautiful.  Don't change anything!  (IMO ;-))

 I have a thought about 10.htm:  What about a squareish crop?  Crop the left 
 side of the frame to exclude completely the woman on the far right for sure, 
 then maybe continue the crop to only, say, half of the woman with the 
 microphone.  I think this might bring more attention to the man, who is 
 wonderfully outlined by the light.  He's actually the most interesting part 
 of the frame.  Just a thought. Overall, very nice concert shots.   Cheers, 
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 My friend put me on the door when she got the support slot for Renee
 Gayer. Photographically a little restricted because I couldn't move
 closer; the Basement is a dinner and show place, with the diners up the
 front. But the music was fantastic. Gorgeous harmonies. Renee is such a
 commanding stage personality.

 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_06/08_06_renee/index.htm

 R-D1, on ISO800 giving me speeds of around 1/30 with the lens wide open

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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/6/08, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed:


Nice job, Steve. I especially like the Jersey city shot. I likes me  
some wires.

Cheers Doug. The wires really captured my attention as it's not
something you see in the UK. Sure you see wires, but in the USA it seems
that any old Joe can come along and add to the bird's nest without
recourse to what's gone in before. I found this entanglement more easy
on the eye than some of the disasters floating around up there

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GESO: Bridezilla and send-off for Holiday

2008-06-14 Thread Derby Chang

The gorgeous kids had a stonking show last night to send off their lead 
singer, Holiday. She's a part of the Global Youth Leadership conference 
at the UN

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_06/08_06_bridezilla/index.htm

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Re: Memory Card Problem.

2008-06-14 Thread pnstenquist
I bought a Sandisk Extreme III 8 gig SDHC or $79 with a $30 rebate. Works great 
so far through about 2000 frames. I'll probably get another.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I recently bought a 2GB Lexar card for $24, which is
 what it used to cost me to buy and process 2 rolls of
 slide film.
 
 There seems little point in buying cheapo memory
 cards.
 
 Rick
 
 
 --- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  A short while ago I bough a few cheap and cheerful
  8GB cards.
  
  Today at the dog show, I was shooting a series of
  pictures using the K20 and the 540 FGZ flash 
  when the camera stopped working, and I got a memory
  card error, specifically that the camera 
  couldn't write the file, and that it had been lost.
  And it was.
  Lost, that is.
  
  
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Re: K20D raw format support

2008-06-14 Thread pnstenquist
Macintosh I-Photo. How weird is that?
Paul
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 Silky Pix after that I don't know...
 
 AlunFoto wrote:
  Gang,
 
  The K20D has been with us for a couple of months. Now I'm curious
  which raw file converters support its PEF files.
 
  Any experiences?
 
  Best,
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Re: K20D raw format support

2008-06-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
As soon as Apple incorporates RAW processing support into the  
CoreImage frameworks, it is a system shared library so any  
application that uses the framework gets it automatically.

They added the K20D recently, now Aperture, iPhoto and Preview all  
have access to process the RAW files.

Godfrey

On Jun 14, 2008, at 3:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Macintosh I-Photo. How weird is that?
 Paul
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 Silky Pix after that I don't know...

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 Gang,

 The K20D has been with us for a couple of months. Now I'm curious
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 Any experiences?

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Re: K20D raw format support

2008-06-14 Thread AlunFoto
Thanks Godfrey.
GoogleDoc updated.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pecuhsM9jAKO6f2laoptJbg

Jostein


2008/6/15 Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 As soon as Apple incorporates RAW processing support into the
 CoreImage frameworks, it is a system shared library so any
 application that uses the framework gets it automatically.

 They added the K20D recently, now Aperture, iPhoto and Preview all
 have access to process the RAW files.

 Godfrey

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 Macintosh I-Photo. How weird is that?
 Paul
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 Silky Pix after that I don't know...

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Re: Memory Card Problem.

2008-06-14 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: pnstenquistSubject: Re: Memory Card Problem.


I bought a Sandisk Extreme III 8 gig SDHC or $79 with a $30 rebate. Works 
great so far through about 2000 frames. I'll probably get another.

I bought a couple of those yesterday on my way home.

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Another interesting copyright issue

2008-06-14 Thread John Francis

http://www1.villagevoice.com/news/0824,artist-fan-clash-online,464898,2.html


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Re: Another interesting copyright issue

2008-06-14 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: John Francis
Subject: Another interesting copyright issue



and an interesting link about police harrassing photographers
http://www1.villagevoice.com/news/0824,464895,464895,2.html

William Robb

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FS: Friday (er, a day late...)

2008-06-14 Thread Walter Hamler
I have a DA 50~200 if anyone would be interested at a good price.
email me off list at  whamler  at  cfl.rr.com.
I would prefer US sales but if you are elsewhere talk to me.

Walt

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Berlin??? (2d query)

2008-06-14 Thread Rick Womer
12 days from now I plan to be in Berlin, wandering and
shooting.

I would appreciate any advice.

I would love to meet a fellow PDMLer.

Rick



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Re: K20D raw format support

2008-06-14 Thread Fernando
Capture One, version 4

On 6/14/08, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Gang,

 The K20D has been with us for a couple of months. Now I'm curious
 which raw file converters support its PEF files.

 Any experiences?

 Best,
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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-14 Thread pnstenquist
I like Jersey City as well. It was pretty much all ghetto when I lived in NY 17 
years ago. It's come a long way. But all of the New York area is gentrifying. 
Some people don't like that, because they get squeezed out. But it's the way of 
the world.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On 14/6/08, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Nice pics. Love the Jersey City wires. Is the stoplight pic on the  
 street leading up to the Holland Tunnel?
 
 You da man! Indeed it is. Our friend Keith lives fairly close, opposite
 a park. I liked Jersey City.
 
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Re: Memory Card Problem.

2008-06-14 Thread pnstenquist
Good move. In truth, I've had better luck with this card than the Extreme III 2 
gig cards. No wiggling necessary to get the card reader to lock onto it. I'm 
happy.
Paul
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From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: pnstenquistSubject: Re: Memory Card Problem.
 
 
 I bought a Sandisk Extreme III 8 gig SDHC or $79 with a $30 rebate. Works 
 great so far through about 2000 frames. I'll probably get another.
 
 I bought a couple of those yesterday on my way home.
 
 William Robb 
 
 
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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-14 Thread Sandy Harris
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 14/6/08, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

Just cannot justify a $3000 purchase these days.

 Dave, more like $1500 to $1800. Still a lot.

First item on Cameraquest's price list, used RD-1 described
as mint, $1800.

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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-14 Thread Ken Waller
Those above ground wires are causing a lot of grief these days in Michigan 
as well as other areas hit with high winds. We were hit with a pretty good 
thunderstorm last Sunday  there are still thousands without power.

BTW I grew up in Bayonne, just south of Jersey City  didn't think the above 
ground wires were all that romantic.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

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From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1


 On 14/6/08, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed:


Nice job, Steve. I especially like the Jersey city shot. I likes me
some wires.

 Cheers Doug. The wires really captured my attention as it's not
 something you see in the UK. Sure you see wires, but in the USA it seems
 that any old Joe can come along and add to the bird's nest without
 recourse to what's gone in before. I found this entanglement more easy
 on the eye than some of the disasters floating around up there

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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-14 Thread Ken Waller
In the mid 60's Jersey City was definitely a great place to be from!

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1


I like Jersey City as well. It was pretty much all ghetto when I lived in 
NY 17 years ago. It's come a long way. But all of the New York area is 
gentrifying. Some people don't like that, because they get squeezed out. 
But it's the way of the world.
 Paul
 -- Original message --
 From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On 14/6/08, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

 Nice pics. Love the Jersey City wires. Is the stoplight pic on the
 street leading up to the Holland Tunnel?

 You da man! Indeed it is. Our friend Keith lives fairly close, opposite
 a park. I liked Jersey City.

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 Cheers,
   Cotty


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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-14 Thread P. J. Alling
Sandy Harris wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 On 14/6/08, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

 
 Just cannot justify a $3000 purchase these days.
   
 Dave, more like $1500 to $1800. Still a lot.

 
 First item on Cameraquest's price list, used RD-1 described
 as mint, $1800.
   
Still a bit more than I'd want to pay for a camera of it's 
capabilities.  (Plus my supply of Leica lenses is limited...)

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Re: K20D hot pixel firmware being developped

2008-06-14 Thread P. J. Alling
Good by the time I buy one the problem will be all fixed.

Thibouille wrote:
 Don't think it was montionned before

 http://www.imaging-resource.com/NEWS/1212174178.html

 So it is official it seems.

   


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Re: Memory Card Problem.

2008-06-14 Thread Bob Sullivan
I just saw my first problem with an 8 GB card.  Couldn't write/read
from it.  More later.  Bob S.

On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 6:51 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 From: pnstenquistSubject: Re: Memory Card Problem.


I bought a Sandisk Extreme III 8 gig SDHC or $79 with a $30 rebate. Works
great so far through about 2000 frames. I'll probably get another.

 I bought a couple of those yesterday on my way home.

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Katz Eye question

2008-06-14 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

I seem to have a problem/issue/strange thing with the K-E screen that I 
bought. It says (as I asked for it) that it has the optibrite treatment 
and all such. Now, if I mount that DA 21/3.2 I see that the bottom half 
circle in the center of the screen is slightly dark. If I mount FAJ 
18-35/4.0-5.6 that bottom half becomes seriously dark. I can still use 
it somewhat for manual focusing but I am more concerned that like this 
it really intervenes with AF and AE.

I am shooting wearing glasses all the time. What have I done wrong?

When installing the screen I did not hear the clicking sound when I was 
locking the filter in place, but I felt that I was closing something 
very tightly.

Also I noticed that the red light for the center AF point is just a bit 
lower that the center of the split screen circle...

Concerned.

Boris

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Re: Six NYC pics on R-D1

2008-06-14 Thread Bob Sullivan
Thomas Edison's labs were in New Jersey.
They are proud of their electric wires!
(That was a nice picture - also liked the tanker truck vs veritcal
building ribs, very graphic.)
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 5:02 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 14/6/08, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed:


Nice job, Steve. I especially like the Jersey city shot. I likes me
some wires.

 Cheers Doug. The wires really captured my attention as it's not
 something you see in the UK. Sure you see wires, but in the USA it seems
 that any old Joe can come along and add to the bird's nest without
 recourse to what's gone in before. I found this entanglement more easy
 on the eye than some of the disasters floating around up there

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PESO: Reminiscing

2008-06-14 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
I know that I have been quiet from this list for quite a while.  There 
are many reasons that have kept me from my PDML family.  Those that know 
me can see that...  Anyhow,

 I was sitting here, recalling some of my travels - I have not made a 
trip in quite a while - and this brought me back to my last travel to 
Roatan, Honduras.

While visiting one of my websites, 
http://roatan2003.homestead.com/index.html, I looked at some of my photos.

I thought about submitting them for your perusal...

http://groups.msn.com/MyRugbyPictures/peso.msnw?action=ShowPhotoPhotoID=81
is a shot I took as a typical landscape during my visit to Roatan, Honduras.

Also there is:
http://groups.msn.com/MyRugbyPictures/peso.msnw?action=ShowPhotoPhotoID=82
as a shot of our almost daily gathering at Mono Loco.  This day had a 
daily special of caparinhas, which I figured out I ended up visiting 
more often than any of the others of our squad.

Finally there is:
http://groups.msn.com/MyRugbyPictures/peso.msnw?action=ShowPhotoPhotoID=83
This was a shot as we headed back from 'paradise' to home.  I have 
alwayss liked this shot since it brought back memories of this trip.


I think that as photographers we tend to associate shots with events, 
time and memories.  I almost need to have others look at my shots since 
it is hard to disassociate myself from the photo.

Maybe I can spend more time on the list now,

César

P.S.  I really missed being at NPW at GFMtn this year...

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PESO: Kenosha Harbor Light

2008-06-14 Thread Bob Sullivan
Here's a shot from sunset today up in Wisconsin.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7410100size=lg

K20D with F70-210/4-5.6 1/200th @ f7.1 and ISO 200, zoomed to 70mm

The 8GB memory card acted funky for a bit, but I was almost out of battery.
I'll be testing it more tomorrow.

Regards, Bob S.

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