Re: Sensor cleaning

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Walters"
Subject: Re: Sensor cleaning



>
> I know the experts claim that using canned air is dangerous but, is
> there any documented evidence of sensor damage from using it?
>


I asked this very thing on neuroticforums and got spanked for my troubles, but 
a couple of 
people did have anecdotal stories.

I did find a cached version of the 60-250mm thread that got pulled though, just 
to spite 
them


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RE: a couple of small announcements ...

[Bob W]

Congratulations - I remember you posting the photos, which are very
impressive.

Bob 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi
> Sent: 24 July 2008 06:00
> To: SeePhoto Talk; DUG; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PDML 
> List; PAW Picture-A-Week project
> Subject: a couple of small announcements ...
> 
> I discovered this evening that a good number of photos of classic  
> California police badges I made for a client two years ago have been

> incorporated into a book by James C. Casey called "Badges of 
> America's  
> Finest: A Pictorial Guide to the Badges of American Lawmen and Price

> Guide". The book is available from Amazon.com:
> 
>  an/dp/193243951X/ 
>  >
> 
> AND I was given attributions for all of the photos I took.
> It wasn't part of the shoot contract, but sure made my evening  
> happier. :-)
> 
> You might remember these from when I posted them in Summer 2006:
> 
>http://homepage.mac.com/godders/police-badge-01/
>http://homepage.mac.com/godders/police-badge-02/
> 
> I be smilin' !
> 
> yippee,
> Godfrey
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Re: Sensor cleaning

[Brian Walters]

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:24:18 -0600, "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> So, am I the only person in the world who routinely does sensor cleaning
> with canned air?


Well, I don't use it routinely but I have used it on occasions.  The DS
is still functioning.

I know the experts claim that using canned air is dangerous but, is
there any documented evidence of sensor damage from using it?



Cheers

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Re: Sensor cleaning

[David Savage]

2008/7/24 William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi"
> Subject: Re: Sensor cleaning
>>
>>> So, am I the only person in the world who routinely does sensor
>>> cleaning with canned air?
>>> Please, no lectures.
>>
>> Likely yes. Everyone else who's done that has shortly thereafter sent
>> their camera in for an overhaul. ;-)
>
> Hmmm. Five years and three DSLRs later, I have yet to have a problem.


I dunno, 3 cameras in 5 years is a pretty high rate of attrition.


Oh you mean...errnever mind.

Carry on.

Cheers,

Dave


P.S.

I just use a blower bulb. I've yet to need to physically wipe the sensor.

But when I do I have my Pentax lolly pop thingy ready.

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Re: a couple of small announcements ...

[Brian Walters]

Congratulations, Godfrey

I don't recall seeing the badges previously but I enjoyed looking at
them now.  Were they photographed with a flash fitted with some sort of
diffuser or maybe using a light tent?  I'm interested because I plan to
photograph my wife's pottery and minimising reflections from the glossy
surfaces is a bit of a problem.  I could make up a light test but if
there's something simpler that works..



Cheers

Brian

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On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:59:52 -0700, "Godfrey DiGiorgi"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> I discovered this evening that a good number of photos of classic  
> California police badges I made for a client two years ago have been  
> incorporated into a book by James C. Casey called "Badges of America's  
> Finest: A Pictorial Guide to the Badges of American Lawmen and Price  
> Guide". The book is available from Amazon.com:
> 
>   
>  >
> 
> AND I was given attributions for all of the photos I took.
> It wasn't part of the shoot contract, but sure made my evening  
> happier. :-)
> 
> You might remember these from when I posted them in Summer 2006:
> 
>http://homepage.mac.com/godders/police-badge-01/
>http://homepage.mac.com/godders/police-badge-02/
> 
> I be smilin' !
> 
> yippee,
> Godfrey
> 
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Re: Sensor cleaning

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" 
Subject: Re: Sensor cleaning



> 
>> So, am I the only person in the world who routinely does sensor  
>> cleaning with canned air?
>> Please, no lectures.
> 
> Likely yes. Everyone else who's done that has shortly thereafter sent  
> their camera in for an overhaul. ;-)

Hmmm. Five years and three DSLRs later, I have yet to have a problem.

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Re: Sensor cleaning

[Scott Loveless]

William Robb wrote:
> So, am I the only person in the world who routinely does sensor cleaning with 
> canned air?
> Please, no lectures.
> 
> William Robb
> 
Steel wool and liberal amounts of cutting oil work for me.  Or are we 
still talking about cameras?

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Re: Sensor cleaning

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Jul 23, 2008, at 10:24 PM, William Robb wrote:

> So, am I the only person in the world who routinely does sensor  
> cleaning with canned air?
> Please, no lectures.

Likely yes. Everyone else who's done that has shortly thereafter sent  
their camera in for an overhaul. ;-)

G

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Sensor cleaning

[William Robb]

So, am I the only person in the world who routinely does sensor cleaning with 
canned air?
Please, no lectures.

William Robb

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Re: a couple of small announcements ...

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 7/23/2008 10:00:26 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I discovered this evening  that a good number of photos of classic  
California police badges I  made for a client two years ago have been  
incorporated into a book by  James C. Casey called "Badges of America's  
Finest: A Pictorial Guide  to the Badges of American Lawmen and Price  
Guide". The book is  available from  Amazon.com:



AND I was given attributions for all of the photos I took.
It  wasn't part of the shoot contract, but sure made my evening  
happier.  :-)

You might remember these from when I posted them in Summer  2006:

http://homepage.mac.com/godders/police-badge-01/
http://homepage.mac.com/godders/police-badge-02/

I be smilin'  !

yippee,
Godfrey

=
Congrats, Godfrey. I do  remember them, and that's neat.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: PESO: Yummm

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 7/23/2008 2:56:45 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Freshly backed Zucchini  bread. (still warm)

Jack

Comments welcome.

K10D, DA 15~45,  f/8, 1/180 W/on board flash (1145 pixels  wide)

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a couple of small announcements ...

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I discovered this evening that a good number of photos of classic  
California police badges I made for a client two years ago have been  
incorporated into a book by James C. Casey called "Badges of America's  
Finest: A Pictorial Guide to the Badges of American Lawmen and Price  
Guide". The book is available from Amazon.com:



AND I was given attributions for all of the photos I took.
It wasn't part of the shoot contract, but sure made my evening  
happier. :-)

You might remember these from when I posted them in Summer 2006:

   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/police-badge-01/
   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/police-badge-02/

I be smilin' !

yippee,
Godfrey

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Re: GESO: She

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 7/21/2008 5:01:28 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That's her name..."She"  (short  "e")

http://www.bong.uni.cc/geso/2008-02.htm

Bong


Very  pretty girl, very nice photograph(s).

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OT: Blurb QC issues?

[David Savage]

Given Marks high praise of the quality of his Blurb published book, my
positive response from what I had seen & the fact that others were
thinking of using them too, I'm posting this FYI.

A local photographer I know had an exhibition in this years Foto Freo
"Photographic Festival". As part of his exibition he had 1 13x11"
hardcover sample printed by Blurb on display featuring all the photos
that made up the exhibit plus some extra shots (mostly B&W but some
colour). Those interested could order a copy of the book, when he
received enough orders he would order a run. I was impressed by both
the exhibition & the quality of the book, so I ordered one.

Fast forward 5 weeks & the first order arrives. No good. All kinds of
colour shift anomilies (mostly cyan). After much to-ing & fro-ing
Blurb agreed to re print them.  Well the reprints were just as bad, if
not worse. For those interested he has some samples & his side of the
story on the Blurb forum:



Now I have another book that was made through Blurb (8x10 softcover) &
the quality is outstanding. But the images in that book were almost
all colour, so maybe it's just a problem with monochrome images. Or
maybe it's a common problem that isn't as noticeable in colour photos.
I don't know.

What I find most surprising was that Blurb said they couldn't see the problem!!!

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: Peso Cut wheat

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 7/23/2008 2:38:20 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7595076

Another in the  series. Machine cuts and binds wheat sheaves,

K10D, 16-45 LR adjusted to  B&W.

Dave

===
That is really, really nice Dave.  I'd like it better if the machine wasn't 
so close to the left edge, and maybe if  it all had a harder "edge" to it 
(sharpened). But love the horses and the way  the beaten down grass frames them.

Marnie aka that Doe  Person

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Re: I found me a dead alien

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In a message dated 7/21/2008 11:59:36 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
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Just a funny--my husband  named it.  Not a peso--just what I call a "giggle 
post."  Cheers,  Christine

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7587859  


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Re: I found me a dead alien

[ann sanfedele]

frank theriault wrote:

>On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Christine  Aguila
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>Just a funny--my husband named it.  Not a peso--just what I call a "giggle
>>post."  Cheers, Christine
>>
>>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7587859
>>
>>
>
>You may think it a "giggle post", but I think it may be a much
>stronger image than you imagine it to be.  As someone else said,
>there's a definite "Arbus-like" quality to this one.
>
>Terrific shot!
>
>cheers,
>frank
>
>  
>
Yes, that was my feeling too, Frank... and Christine, I like it much 
better than many of the shots you consider
your serious stuff... It has life,  and it inspires questions as to what 
really is going on... all great ingredients of
photojournalistic style photography...  

Your sense of balance and timing are just right -  I only suggested BW 
as a way of honing in on that ... but
it is quite good as it is.

ann


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Re: PESO: What is the middle Object?

[ann sanfedele]

ET, Call home

ann

Walter Hamler wrote:

>I shot this back in June 1978. It is a close conjunction of Saturn and
>Mars. I shot 5 frames and one frame had the object shown here between
>the two planets. I believe it is a meteor caught just as it was
>entering the atmosphere. The exposure was maybe 2 seconds on B&W Tech
>Pan film.
>
>Walt
>
>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/Saturn-and-Marsweb.jpg
>
>  
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Perhaps Cotty prefers Salsa on his hat.

[P. J. Alling]

I don't know if anyone saw this or posted it but I was looking for 
something else entirely and stumbled across this.  Perhaps Cotty will 
have a filling meal in the relatively near future...



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Re: PESO: What is the middle Object?

[William Robb]

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From: "Cotty"
Subject: Re: PESO: What is the middle Object?



> At last night's 2008 SONY RADIO ACADEMY AWARDS held at Grosvenor House
> in London Oxfordshire's newest radio station JACK fm was recognized as
> one of the best sounding radio stations in the country.
>
> At the evening, considered UK radio's equivalent of the Academy awards,
> JACK fm was awarded the industry's coveted Silver Station Imaging
> Award.  The judging panel praised JACK fm's imaging (the bits between
> the songs) for displaying "Great writing, conveying a huge number of
> idea's, always fresh yet always on-brief and highly talkable, just what
> you need when you're new on the dial". They also paid special tribute to
> the voice of Jack Fm, renowned Blake's 7 star Paul Darrow, describing
> his casting as 'inspired'.

We have a JACK fm station here. I wouldn't have thought of their programming as 
inspired, though 
the Bill & Woody morning show can be hilarious from time to time.

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Re: Two external HD's or stay with CD's

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Roberts"
Subject: Re: Two external HD's or stay with CD's



>
> The reason I'm slowly putting everything on DVD as well is for off-site
> storage - in case of fire or, particularly, lightning. A direct
> lightning strike could easily fry both hard drives, making backup kind
> of moot :) This might not be an issue for some people but, Pittsburgh is
> right on the edge of the Appalachians and we get some wicked
> thunderstorms here. And I'm not confident enough in the abilities of
> surge protection gear.

This is why my Drobo is unplugged unless I am actively backing up to it, and if 
there is any 
hint of an electrical storm I unplug the power bar that supplies my computer.

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Re: Mostly tilt and somewhat shift

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Boris Liberman"
Subject: Mostly tilt and somewhat shift


> Hi!
>
> The idea of controlling DOF with the lens tilt starts to tickle my
> fancy... It turns out that Pentax only has shift lens (28/3.5 in K
> mount) and there are some 3rd party lenses. Any thoughts, ideas, etc
> on the matter would be greatly appreciated. Currently I am thinking in
> more theoretical terms, however it could become quite practical.

Unless you want to move to a view camera, Canon probably has the best bet for 
small format T/S 
lenses.
This is if they haven't dropped them from their line.

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Re: GESO: She

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Bong Manayon" 
Subject: Re: GESO: She


> Is that contagious?


No, it's genetic.

William Robb



>> Doesn't look awkward to /me/, but I've got a /horrible/ case of "white
>> man's disease" (no rhythm).  Actually, that gallery makes me wish I was
>> 20 years younger and living in the SW Pacific. :-)



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Re: My First Wedding

[George Sinos]

Here you go Frank - this is advice for someone shooting their first
wedding, especially shooting for a friend.



I'm not thinking you need the technical info - there's a lot of
"shooting a wedding" info included.

GS


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Re: GESO: She

[David Savage]

Nah.

It's genetic

:-)

Cheers,

Dave

2008/7/24 Bong Manayon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Is that contagious?
>
> :-D
>
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Doug Franklin
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Bong Manayon wrote:
>>> My own personal favorite is this one: 
>>> http://www.bong.uni.cc/geso/2008-02a.htm
>>>
>>> Except I realized that to a non-Filipino, her pose looks awkward (she
>>> was actually doing the movements of a dance associated with the wrap).
>>
>> Doesn't look awkward to /me/, but I've got a /horrible/ case of "white
>> man's disease" (no rhythm).  Actually, that gallery makes me wish I was
>> 20 years younger and living in the SW Pacific. :-)

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Re: GESO: She

[Bong Manayon]

Is that contagious?

:-D

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Doug Franklin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bong Manayon wrote:
>> My own personal favorite is this one: 
>> http://www.bong.uni.cc/geso/2008-02a.htm
>>
>> Except I realized that to a non-Filipino, her pose looks awkward (she
>> was actually doing the movements of a dance associated with the wrap).
>
> Doesn't look awkward to /me/, but I've got a /horrible/ case of "white
> man's disease" (no rhythm).  Actually, that gallery makes me wish I was
> 20 years younger and living in the SW Pacific. :-)
>
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> DougF (KG4LMZ)
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Re: PESO: Yummm

[Jack Davis]

Me either, Brendan. A good size sliver was my dinner this evening.
Since I'm still recuperating from surgery, I'm hung up at home with not a lot 
to do. ;(
Thanks for comments.

Jack


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> From: Brendan MacRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: PESO: Yummm
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 6:29 PM
> Now that makes me hungry. Few things I like better
> than warm zucchini bread.
> 
> -Brendan
> --- Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Freshly backed Zucchini bread. (still warm)
> > 
> > Jack
> > 
> > Comments welcome.
> > 
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Re: My First Wedding

[Bong Manayon]

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:31 AM, frank theriault
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Shooting my first wedding, that is.
>
>
> Second (and most importantly):  What should I charge.
>
Hmmm.  There's this anecdote about a woman going through counseling
with a priest/pastor/counselor who gave this words of wisdom: "young
lady if you're going to marry someone for money, all I can say is that
you'll be rich but miserable."  The woman shot back, "I'm miserable
anyway, I might as well be rich."

Moral of the story--if you're happy with your friend and would gladly
go out of your way to do things for him/her, charge low--even free if
they're "worth" it!  If you would rather not deal with them or will be
unhappy with the arrangements, charge high.  Now if they really want
you and bite the high price, at least you'll be rich.

Bong :-)
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Re: PESO - Same Book, Different Opinions

[Bong Manayon]

Nice catch!  Even the reflection of the woman on the door adds an
interesting element to the photo.

Bong

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 9:06 PM, frank theriault
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Haven't been able to be on-list since Friday.  I'm back on the road
> (messengering) three days a week for the rest of the summer and I'm
> really enjoying it, but it means I'm not online very much during the
> week.
>
> Anyway, here's a fun shot I got on the subway on the weekend:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6yshca
>
> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SIciojMHq3I/CtM/gNHmN48Rv7w/s1600-h/july_23_08+003.jpg
>
> Hope you enjoy!
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: PESO - Same Book, Different Opinions

[Steve Desjardins]

I like the juxtaposition of the word "God" in the book title and the
dog, which is "God" spelled backwards.  Sort of a semi-visual
palindrome.   (He says with a very straight face.)

A strange but appealing photo.  I like the ghost woman off to the
right.




>>> "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/23/2008 9:06 AM >>>
Haven't been able to be on-list since Friday.  I'm back on the road
(messengering) three days a week for the rest of the summer and I'm
really enjoying it, but it means I'm not online very much during the
week.

Anyway, here's a fun shot I got on the subway on the weekend:

http://tinyurl.com/6yshca 

http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SIciojMHq3I/CtM/gNHmN48Rv7w/s1600-h/july_23_08+003.jpg


Hope you enjoy!

cheers,
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Re: PESO: Yummm

[Brendan MacRae]

Now that makes me hungry. Few things I like better
than warm zucchini bread.

-Brendan
--- Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Freshly backed Zucchini bread. (still warm)
> 
> Jack
> 
> Comments welcome.
> 
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> pixels wide)
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Re: PESO: What is the middle Object?

[Mark Roberts]

Cotty wrote:
> On 23/7/08, drew, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> (where's Avon?)
> 
> Continuity announcer for Jack FM. True.
> 
> 
> 
> Have a listen - he'll pop up before too long. Recorded stings.
> 
>>From May 13 2008:
> 
> At last night's 2008 SONY RADIO ACADEMY AWARDS held at Grosvenor House
> in London Oxfordshire's newest radio station JACK fm was recognized as
> one of the best sounding radio stations in the country.
> 
> At the evening, considered UK radio's equivalent of the Academy awards,
> JACK fm was awarded the industry's coveted Silver Station Imaging
> Award.  The judging panel praised JACK fm's imaging (the bits between
> the songs) for displaying "Great writing, conveying a huge number of
> idea's, always fresh yet always on-brief and highly talkable, just what
> you need when you're new on the dial". They also paid special tribute to
> the voice of Jack Fm, renowned Blake's 7 star Paul Darrow, describing
> his casting as 'inspired'.

You're out-nerding Mike Wilson!


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RE: PESO: What is the middle Object?

[Bob W]

They must have hired a greengrocer to write that copy.

Bob 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Cotty
> Sent: 23 July 2008 22:14
> To: pentax list
> Subject: Re: PESO: What is the middle Object?
> 
> On 23/7/08, drew, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> > (where's Avon?)
> 
> Continuity announcer for Jack FM. True.
> 
> 
> 
> Have a listen - he'll pop up before too long. Recorded stings.
> 
> >From May 13 2008:
> 
> At last night's 2008 SONY RADIO ACADEMY AWARDS held at Grosvenor
House
> in London Oxfordshire's newest radio station JACK fm was recognized
as
> one of the best sounding radio stations in the country.
> 
> At the evening, considered UK radio's equivalent of the 
> Academy awards,
> JACK fm was awarded the industry's coveted Silver Station Imaging
> Award.  The judging panel praised JACK fm's imaging (the bits
between
> the songs) for displaying "Great writing, conveying a huge number of
> idea's, always fresh yet always on-brief and highly talkable, 
> just what
> you need when you're new on the dial". They also paid special 
> tribute to
> the voice of Jack Fm, renowned Blake's 7 star Paul Darrow,
describing
> his casting as 'inspired'.
> 
> --
> 
> 
> Cheers,
>   Cotty
> 
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Re: PESO: What is the middle Object?

[Cotty]

On 23/7/08, drew, discombobulated, unleashed:

> (where's Avon?)

Continuity announcer for Jack FM. True.



Have a listen - he'll pop up before too long. Recorded stings.

>From May 13 2008:

At last night's 2008 SONY RADIO ACADEMY AWARDS held at Grosvenor House
in London Oxfordshire's newest radio station JACK fm was recognized as
one of the best sounding radio stations in the country.

At the evening, considered UK radio's equivalent of the Academy awards,
JACK fm was awarded the industry's coveted Silver Station Imaging
Award.  The judging panel praised JACK fm's imaging (the bits between
the songs) for displaying "Great writing, conveying a huge number of
idea's, always fresh yet always on-brief and highly talkable, just what
you need when you're new on the dial". They also paid special tribute to
the voice of Jack Fm, renowned Blake's 7 star Paul Darrow, describing
his casting as 'inspired'.

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Re: My First Wedding

[Bob Sullivan]

Frank,
This sounds like a no win proposition.
'You've got a camera, just snap some pictures and give them to us.
It won't cost much will it?'
I guess Paul has the right idea on price ($300-$500), but maybe you're
busy that day...
I'd run, run, run away.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 1:31 PM, frank theriault
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Shooting my first wedding, that is.
>
> I recently ran into an old acquaintance.  I had my camera with me (as
> I almost always do), and after some conversation, he and his partner
> ended up asking me to shoot their wedding.  They know I'm an avid
> amateur and they know I've never shot a wedding before.  They also
> know that they'll have to pay for this.  I got an interesting e-mail
> from them, with the following:
>
> "We are thinking of gathering in the mid-afternoon for some 'staged'
> shots - coming down the stairs, in the elevator, families, etc., and
> then you could just do candids through the evening.
>
> We would only really need the digital files from you - we'll figure
> out what we wanted printed and touch-up's, etc. A DVD/CD of the images
> would be fine."
>
> First of all (keeping in mind I've never done this sort of thing
> before), I'm thinking that I'd rather go through proofs with them and
> then process the ones they want and send them a cd of the processed
> shots - not just give them a cd of raw images for them to process.
>
> Second (and most importantly):  What should I charge.
>
> Thanks.
>
> cheers,
> frank
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PESO: Yummm

[Jack Davis]

Freshly backed Zucchini bread. (still warm)

Jack

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Re: GESO: Providence Canyon State Park

[Bob Sullivan]

Corry,
That's Georgia?!!  Wow.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Cory Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here's a set from our camping trip last weekend.  We went to this state
> park in mid-south-west Georgia.  Our campground was kinda blah but we
> were about twenty minutes from another state park that's centered around
> a series of honest-to-goodness canyons.  We'd seen the place on TV a
> couple years ago (Georgia public TV has a show that showcases cool
> places in GA) and were pretty shocked that Georgia had such an out-west
> looking landscape.
>
> http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/5513499_7KCop#337451636
>
> Standouts for me are:
> http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/5513499_7KCop#337451603_yFzYz-X2-LB
> and
> http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/5513499_7KCop#337451348_4aUdu-L-LB
>
> Thanks for looking :)
>
> Cory
>
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Re: Two external HD's or stay with CD's

[Mark Roberts]

Ken Waller wrote:
>> And I'm not confident enough in the abilities of 
>> surge protection gear.
> 
> Not even with a backup battery power supply?

A backup battery will keep it going during a power outage, but doesn't 
help protect against a direct lightning strike. (A house two streets 
over from ours suffered a hit two summers ago. I suppose I could tell 
myself that it's on higher ground and so we're much more likely to get 
hit here, but that's not something I want to rely on!)




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Re: PESO: What is the middle Object?

[Walter Hamler]

Nope, the exposure was no greater than 3 seconds but most likely 2. I
have records of similar exposures on Saturn around the same time and
they were all around 1.5 to 2 seconds.
You have to remember, this is probably a small meteor, probably 40 to
60 miles up, probably moving more towards the camera rather than
across the sky at a 90 degree angle.Even at that altitide, it was
probably actually 100 miles away (slant range distance) and typical
speeds of those objects are upwards of 1 mph. Smaller objects a
little slower. Don't make the mistake of judging size based on the
image. 99% of the image would be plasma and smoke from the burning
meteor, not the object itself.

Walt

On 7/23/08, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Walter Hamler wrote:
> > I shot this back in June 1978. It is a close conjunction of Saturn and
> > Mars. I shot 5 frames and one frame had the object shown here between
> > the two planets. I believe it is a meteor caught just as it was
> > entering the atmosphere. The exposure was maybe 2 seconds on B&W Tech
> > Pan film.
> > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/Saturn-and-Marsweb.jpg
>
> Something odd here and I can only see two possibilities:
> 1 - You're mistaken and the exposure was a lot shorter than 2 seconds
> 2 - Whatever "it" might be, it's moving a lot slower than a meteor
>
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Peso Cut wheat

[David J Brooks]

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7595076

Another in the series. Machine cuts and binds wheat sheaves,

K10D, 16-45 LR adjusted to B&W.

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Re: Two external HD's or stay with CD's

[Ken Waller]

>And I'm not confident enough in the abilities of 
> surge protection gear.

Not even with a backup battery power supply?

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Two external HD's or stay with CD's


> David J Brooks wrote:
>> My current back up includes transfering files to one external HD,
>> Maxtor, and to either a CD or DVD depending on the files sizes.
>> 
>> I'm thinking the CD's and DVD's may go, and add another external and
>> back up on both.
> 
> I use the two-hard-drive approach and I'm implementing a DVD 
> "backup-backup" as well.
> 
> I have my photos on a big-ass internal hard drive and I back them up to 
> an external drive (it's a network drive - slow but good enough for my 
> purposes and I can access it from my laptop anywhere in the house 
> wirelessly).
> 
> The reason I'm slowly putting everything on DVD as well is for off-site 
> storage - in case of fire or, particularly, lightning. A direct 
> lightning strike could easily fry both hard drives, making backup kind 
> of moot :) This might not be an issue for some people but, Pittsburgh is 
> right on the edge of the Appalachians and we get some wicked 
> thunderstorms here. And I'm not confident enough in the abilities of 
> surge protection gear.


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RE: Two external HD's or stay with CD's

[Joseph McAllister]

The only thing on my iMac internal 320 gig HD is the OS, Apps, and  
user related files (downloads, etc). That drive is backed up hourly by  
Time Machine to a Firewire 1 TB drive, which also contains my iTunes  
library (54,000 songs).

Master images are all located on an external 500 gig USB HD. Those  
images only are copied to an external USB 300 gig drive once a month  
by Retrospect. The drive is only powered up for that copy (if I  
remember to turn it on when iCal reminds me!) and kept in my car  
otherwise.

The most important contents of the internal HD, the 1 TB drive, and  
that of two external USB 500 gig drives, one of which  contains the  
master images, is backed up using Apple's Back Up program every night  
to yet another USB 500 gig drive.

And finally, my master images, iTunes, my user files, and other  
difficult to replace/reconfigure files are all backed up once a week  
using Retrospect to the internal 1 TB drive in a G4 dual 1 gig  
Quicksilver that is located elsewhere in the house I use just for that  
purpose.

It's all so very confusing! But the cross/backups give me a great deal  
of confidence that I can recover from most any disaster, as was  
recently the case when my brand new iMac had to be replaced because of  
a faulty screen. As it was a "custom" configured unit from the  
factory, the local store could not replace it, and a new one had to be  
flown in from Taiwan (2 days to assemble and deliver to Seattle). I  
then had to "restore" everything on it's internal 320 gig from my Time  
Machine backup off the 1 TB external. All went smoothly.

As an aside, did you know that to affect repairs on anything except  
the memory within the current iMacs, you must use a couple of window  
installation suction cups to remove the lucite cover from the front to  
get at the screws that hold the LCD screen in, so you can get to the  
logic board, hard drive, or optical drive located behind. And from  
what I'm told by Apple, even the Apple Stores don't like to do it,  
because re-assembling all that without getting a speck of dust either  
on the LCD or the interior of the lucite is very tedious, and really  
begs for a clean room environment. That's certainly a long way from  
the "old days" when one could perform just about any mod, upgrade or  
repair on their Apple ][, Macintosh, or PC with a screwdriver and a  
wrist strap!

Joe

On Jul 23, 2008, at 1:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I use an extertal hdd with an isolated power supply to help
> prevent surge damage to the drive and keep the power switch
> on the ext. drive off except only when transferring data.
> Never trust a single drive or second drive on the same system.
> If you get a bad lightning stike or some other power failure
> you may need to get expensive data recovery off the disk if
> possible or  you may get permanent data loss...


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Re: DA* 16-50 f2.8 hood cap missing?

[John Francis]

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 01:36:14PM -0700, Bob Blakely wrote:
> 
> The DA* 16-50 is my walking around lens. I love this it, but I do wish it 
> was lighter.
> 
> Regards,
> Bob...

My lightweight outfit is the *ist-D with the kit 18-55.

The 16-50 has been on the K10D just about all the time.
But as that also has the grip (with a second battery)
I don't find the weight too much of a problem.  In any
case, it's a whole lot lighter than the FA* 80-200 :-)

Mind you, I might have to carry the 16-50 more often.
I happened to take a couple of near-identical shots,
one with the 16-50, and one with the old FA 28-105.
It was very noticeable that the 16-50 is *much* better
than the 28-105 (both lenses at 50mm, f5.6, so that's
not really too much of a surprise).


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Re: My First Wedding

[Ken Waller]

>I'm thinking that I'd rather go through proofs with them and
> then process the ones they want and send them a cd of the processed
> shots - not just give them a cd of raw images for them to process

That's what I'd do. 

>What should I charge.

More than what your day job pays!


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- Original Message - 
From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: My First Wedding


> Shooting my first wedding, that is.
> 
> I recently ran into an old acquaintance.  I had my camera with me (as
> I almost always do), and after some conversation, he and his partner
> ended up asking me to shoot their wedding.  They know I'm an avid
> amateur and they know I've never shot a wedding before.  They also
> know that they'll have to pay for this.  I got an interesting e-mail
> from them, with the following:
> 
> "We are thinking of gathering in the mid-afternoon for some 'staged'
> shots - coming down the stairs, in the elevator, families, etc., and
> then you could just do candids through the evening.
> 
> We would only really need the digital files from you - we'll figure
> out what we wanted printed and touch-up's, etc. A DVD/CD of the images
> would be fine."
> 
> First of all (keeping in mind I've never done this sort of thing
> before), I'm thinking that I'd rather go through proofs with them and
> then process the ones they want and send them a cd of the processed
> shots - not just give them a cd of raw images for them to process.
> 
> Second (and most importantly):  What should I charge.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> cheers,
> frank


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Re: PESO: What is the middle Object?

[Mark Roberts]

Walter Hamler wrote:
> I shot this back in June 1978. It is a close conjunction of Saturn and
> Mars. I shot 5 frames and one frame had the object shown here between
> the two planets. I believe it is a meteor caught just as it was
> entering the atmosphere. The exposure was maybe 2 seconds on B&W Tech
> Pan film.
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/Saturn-and-Marsweb.jpg

Something odd here and I can only see two possibilities:
1 - You're mistaken and the exposure was a lot shorter than 2 seconds
2 - Whatever "it" might be, it's moving a lot slower than a meteor



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Re: PESO: Behind the Finger Painting

[Jack Davis]

Thanks, Dave.

Jack


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> Subject: Re: PESO: Behind the Finger Painting
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> Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 2:07 PM
> Good accident.
> 
> Lovely shot
> 
> Dave
> 
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Jack Davis
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I mentioned my granddaughter's finger painting was
> hung on our dining room wall over one of my luckier photo
> accidents. Occurred to me it hadn't been PESO'D in
> the past. (at least this format/conversion)
> > So:...
> >
> > Jack
> >
> > Colorado, near Dallas Divide.
> >
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Re: PESO: Behind the Finger Painting

[David J Brooks]

Good accident.

Lovely shot

Dave

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I mentioned my granddaughter's finger painting was hung on our dining room 
> wall over one of my luckier photo accidents. Occurred to me it hadn't been 
> PESO'D in the past. (at least this format/conversion)
> So:...
>
> Jack
>
> Colorado, near Dallas Divide.
>
> Comments happily accepted.
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Re: PESO: What is the middle Object?

[drew]

Beat me to it but I thought it was the Liberator (where's Avon?)

Drew.


David J Brooks wrote:
> Mellinium Falcon.??
> 
> Dave
> 
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Walter Hamler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I shot this back in June 1978. It is a close conjunction of Saturn and
>> Mars. I shot 5 frames and one frame had the object shown here between
>> the two planets. I believe it is a meteor caught just as it was
>> entering the atmosphere. The exposure was maybe 2 seconds on B&W Tech
>> Pan film.
>>
>> Walt
>>
>> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/Saturn-and-Marsweb.jpg
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Re: GESO: Providence Canyon State Park

[David J Brooks]

Those are very nice shots Cory.

Dave

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Cory Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here's a set from our camping trip last weekend.  We went to this state
> park in mid-south-west Georgia.  Our campground was kinda blah but we
> were about twenty minutes from another state park that's centered around
> a series of honest-to-goodness canyons.  We'd seen the place on TV a
> couple years ago (Georgia public TV has a show that showcases cool
> places in GA) and were pretty shocked that Georgia had such an out-west
> looking landscape.
>
> http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/5513499_7KCop#337451636
>
> Standouts for me are:
> http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/5513499_7KCop#337451603_yFzYz-X2-LB
> and
> http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/5513499_7KCop#337451348_4aUdu-L-LB
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> Thanks for looking :)
>
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Re: GESO: Providence Canyon State Park

[Cotty]

On 23/7/08, Cory Waters, discombobulated, unleashed:

>http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/5513499_7KCop#337451636
>
>Standouts for me are:
>http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/5513499_7KCop#337451603_yFzYz-X2-LB
>and
>http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/5513499_7KCop#337451348_4aUdu-L-LB
>
>Thanks for looking :)



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Re: PESO: What is the middle Object?

[David J Brooks]

Mellinium Falcon.??

Dave

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> I shot this back in June 1978. It is a close conjunction of Saturn and
> Mars. I shot 5 frames and one frame had the object shown here between
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> entering the atmosphere. The exposure was maybe 2 seconds on B&W Tech
> Pan film.
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> Walt
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Re: PESO - Fruit Delivery, Kensington Market

[David J Brooks]

Had to look at this one a couple of times.

It looks like you have managed to make the delivery guy look slow, and
the world around look like they are the ones in motion.

Good job.

Dave

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> http://tinyurl.com/5gb5y4
>
> http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SIchPWI14XI/Cs0/ZV-q32Zjyko/s1600-h/july_23_08+002.jpg
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Re: My First Wedding

[David J Brooks]

Hopefully not a lot. Your on my short list for Sept 2010.:-)

Dave

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> Shooting my first wedding, that is.
>
> I recently ran into an old acquaintance.  I had my camera with me (as
> I almost always do), and after some conversation, he and his partner
> ended up asking me to shoot their wedding.  They know I'm an avid
> amateur and they know I've never shot a wedding before.  They also
> know that they'll have to pay for this.  I got an interesting e-mail
> from them, with the following:
>
> "We are thinking of gathering in the mid-afternoon for some 'staged'
> shots - coming down the stairs, in the elevator, families, etc., and
> then you could just do candids through the evening.
>
> We would only really need the digital files from you - we'll figure
> out what we wanted printed and touch-up's, etc. A DVD/CD of the images
> would be fine."
>
> First of all (keeping in mind I've never done this sort of thing
> before), I'm thinking that I'd rather go through proofs with them and
> then process the ones they want and send them a cd of the processed
> shots - not just give them a cd of raw images for them to process.
>
> Second (and most importantly):  What should I charge.
>
> Thanks.
>
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> frank
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Re: Peso Two team plowing

[David J Brooks]

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:27 PM, frank theriault
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 2:51 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7587817
>>
>> Two team Belgiums and I think, this was the single plow.
>>
>> D2H, 80-200 F2.8, LR conversion.
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> Wonderful shot, terrific conversion!

Thanks Frank.

The LR conversion is starting to be my favorite right now.

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Re: PESO - Fruit Delivery, Kensington Market

[Ken Waller]

Now that's more like the Knarf I know !

Kenneth Waller
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From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PESO - Fruit Delivery, Kensington Market


> http://tinyurl.com/5gb5y4
>
> http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SIchPWI14XI/Cs0/ZV-q32Zjyko/s1600-h/july_23_08+002.jpg
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> Comments welcome.
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Re: PESO - Same Book, Different Opinions

[Ken Waller]

The interesting part of this image for me is the reflection of the seconf 
female in the car's glass!

Are you sure this is yours ? Its not blurry

Kenneth Waller
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Subject: PESO - Same Book, Different Opinions


> Haven't been able to be on-list since Friday.  I'm back on the road
> (messengering) three days a week for the rest of the summer and I'm
> really enjoying it, but it means I'm not online very much during the
> week.
>
> Anyway, here's a fun shot I got on the subway on the weekend:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6yshca
>
> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SIciojMHq3I/CtM/gNHmN48Rv7w/s1600-h/july_23_08+003.jpg
>
> Hope you enjoy!
>
> cheers,
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Re: DA* 16-50 f2.8 hood cap missing?

[Bob Blakely]

When bought mine new from Sammy's, it had the cap. Since there's so little 
extraneous light that will reach the lens through that small opening on the 
bottom, and since I use a polarizing filter a lot, I removed the little 
(easy to loose) tab and placed it in the box the lens came in. I don't miss 
it at all, and I wouldn't think of fretting over it's loss.

The DA* 16-50 is my walking around lens. I love this it, but I do wish it 
was lighter.

Regards,
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Note: No trees were killed in the sending of this message,
but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

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>
> Hi all,
>
> my DA* 16-50 f2.8 just arrived, but when I looked at the hood I noticed 
> the
> missing cap. I mean the cap that fills the slot which enables you to 
> rotate
> a polariser without removing the hood. There should be one on the hood, 
> like
> on the FA 24-90, right?
> I'll be really p.ss.d if I need to send the lens back just for this small
> thing.


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Re: Two external HD's or stay with CD's

[Ken Waller]

Dave, FWIW-
I have two external drives (Maxtor) that I use, one primary & one backup for 
the primary.

I like this for several reasons - speed of access (much faster than 
accessing images on CD's) and cost of backup (just bought two 120 GB Maxtors 
for $59.95 each, 3"X4.5" - very portable). Plus I don't have a bunch od 
disks to sort thru when I'm looking for an image.

When I fill up the two I'm now using, I'll hook up two more.

Kenneth Waller
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Subject: Two external HD's or stay with CD's


> My current back up includes transfering files to one external HD,
> Maxtor, and to either a CD or DVD depending on the files sizes.
>
> I'm thinking the CD's and DVD's may go, and add another external and
> back up on both.
>
> I rarely travel to farms or homes that want to see photos, but with
> the small size of the HD's these days, carrying one or two should not
> be a problem.
>
> Any one see any potential problems other than all three HD's going for a 
> S%^*T.
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Re: My First Wedding

[Jack Davis]

Like you, I absolutely would want to process my own images. I would, however, 
not charge them for the "review" time and would consider giving them a CD of 
both the chosen and un-chosen images. This I think I would do based on the 
personal nature of the relationship and the fact that you are not a working 
"pro" wedding photog.
Far as price is concerned, I'll be checking out other responses.

Jack($0.02)


--- On Wed, 7/23/08, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: My First Wedding
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 11:31 AM
> Shooting my first wedding, that is.
> 
> I recently ran into an old acquaintance.  I had my camera
> with me (as
> I almost always do), and after some conversation, he and
> his partner
> ended up asking me to shoot their wedding.  They know
> I'm an avid
> amateur and they know I've never shot a wedding before.
>  They also
> know that they'll have to pay for this.  I got an
> interesting e-mail
> from them, with the following:
> 
> "We are thinking of gathering in the mid-afternoon for
> some 'staged'
> shots - coming down the stairs, in the elevator, families,
> etc., and
> then you could just do candids through the evening.
> 
> We would only really need the digital files from you -
> we'll figure
> out what we wanted printed and touch-up's, etc. A
> DVD/CD of the images
> would be fine."
> 
> First of all (keeping in mind I've never done this sort
> of thing
> before), I'm thinking that I'd rather go through
> proofs with them and
> then process the ones they want and send them a cd of the
> processed
> shots - not just give them a cd of raw images for them to
> process.
> 
> Second (and most importantly):  What should I charge.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
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> Cartier-Bresson
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Re: My First Wedding

[pnstenquist]

I did a wedding shoot for friends of my best friend. Gve them CDs of processed 
files. Charged them $300. 
The least expensive wedding photographers in this area are now charging $500 
for  files only deal. I'm doing a wedding for that much next week. Normally I 
ask for more, but it was all this couple could afford. And $500 is better than 
no dollars.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Shooting my first wedding, that is.
> 
> I recently ran into an old acquaintance.  I had my camera with me (as
> I almost always do), and after some conversation, he and his partner
> ended up asking me to shoot their wedding.  They know I'm an avid
> amateur and they know I've never shot a wedding before.  They also
> know that they'll have to pay for this.  I got an interesting e-mail
> from them, with the following:
> 
> "We are thinking of gathering in the mid-afternoon for some 'staged'
> shots - coming down the stairs, in the elevator, families, etc., and
> then you could just do candids through the evening.
> 
> We would only really need the digital files from you - we'll figure
> out what we wanted printed and touch-up's, etc. A DVD/CD of the images
> would be fine."
> 
> First of all (keeping in mind I've never done this sort of thing
> before), I'm thinking that I'd rather go through proofs with them and
> then process the ones they want and send them a cd of the processed
> shots - not just give them a cd of raw images for them to process.
> 
> Second (and most importantly):  What should I charge.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
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Re: PESO: What is the middle Object?

[Steve Desjardins]

I hear this question a lot when I'm driving . . .

>>> keith_w <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/23/2008 12:38 PM >>>
Walter Hamler wrote:
> I shot this back in June 1978. It is a close conjunction of Saturn
and
> Mars. I shot 5 frames and one frame had the object shown here
between
> the two planets. I believe it is a meteor caught just as it was
> entering the atmosphere. The exposure was maybe 2 seconds on B&W
Tech
> Pan film.
> 
> Walt
> 
>
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/Saturn-and-Marsweb.jpg

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GESO: Providence Canyon State Park

[Cory Waters]

Here's a set from our camping trip last weekend.  We went to this state 
park in mid-south-west Georgia.  Our campground was kinda blah but we 
were about twenty minutes from another state park that's centered around 
a series of honest-to-goodness canyons.  We'd seen the place on TV a 
couple years ago (Georgia public TV has a show that showcases cool 
places in GA) and were pretty shocked that Georgia had such an out-west 
looking landscape.

http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/5513499_7KCop#337451636

Standouts for me are:
http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/5513499_7KCop#337451603_yFzYz-X2-LB
and
http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/5513499_7KCop#337451348_4aUdu-L-LB

Thanks for looking :)

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RE: Two external HD's or stay with CD's

[J. C. O'Connell]

I use an extertal hdd with an isolated power supply to help
prevent surge damage to the drive and keep the power switch
on the ext. drive off except only when transferring data.
Never trust a single drive or second drive on the same system.
If you get a bad lightning stike or some other power failure
you may need to get expensive data recovery off the disk if
possible or  you may get permanent data loss...


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David J Brooks wrote:
> My current back up includes transfering files to one external HD, 
> Maxtor, and to either a CD or DVD depending on the files sizes.
> 
> I'm thinking the CD's and DVD's may go, and add another external and 
> back up on both.

I use the two-hard-drive approach and I'm implementing a DVD 
"backup-backup" as well.

I have my photos on a big-ass internal hard drive and I back them up to 
an external drive (it's a network drive - slow but good enough for my 
purposes and I can access it from my laptop anywhere in the house 
wirelessly).

The reason I'm slowly putting everything on DVD as well is for off-site 
storage - in case of fire or, particularly, lightning. A direct 
lightning strike could easily fry both hard drives, making backup kind 
of moot :) This might not be an issue for some people but, Pittsburgh is 
right on the edge of the Appalachians and we get some wicked 
thunderstorms here. And I'm not confident enough in the abilities of 
surge protection gear.

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Re: PESO - Same Book, Different Opinions

[P. J. Alling]

I thought they put them up front to protect the bus in case the driver 
falls asleep. 

Cotty wrote:
> On 23/7/08, Walter Hamler, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>   
>> Here in Orlando the buses all have
>> bike racks on the front to hold bicycles.
>> 
>
> That's what they tell you. All the riders are collected by a scoop
> underneath near the back.
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Re: DA* 16-50 f2.8 hood cap missing?

[P. J. Alling]

Get in touch with the vendor, explain the problem and ask them to send 
you the missing part.  They probably want a return even less than you 
want to return it.

Frank Wajer wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> my DA* 16-50 f2.8 just arrived, but when I looked at the hood I noticed the 
> missing cap. I mean the cap that fills the slot which enables you to rotate 
> a polariser without removing the hood. There should be one on the hood, like 
> on the FA 24-90, right?
> I'll be really p.ss.d if I need to send the lens back just for this small 
> thing.
>
> regards,
>
> Frank 
>
>
>
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Re: PESO - Same Book, Different Opinions

[Cotty]

On 23/7/08, Walter Hamler, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Here in Orlando the buses all have
>bike racks on the front to hold bicycles.

That's what they tell you. All the riders are collected by a scoop
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Re: Two external HD's or stay with CD's

[Mark Roberts]

David J Brooks wrote:
> My current back up includes transfering files to one external HD,
> Maxtor, and to either a CD or DVD depending on the files sizes.
> 
> I'm thinking the CD's and DVD's may go, and add another external and
> back up on both.

I use the two-hard-drive approach and I'm implementing a DVD 
"backup-backup" as well.

I have my photos on a big-ass internal hard drive and I back them up to 
an external drive (it's a network drive - slow but good enough for my 
purposes and I can access it from my laptop anywhere in the house 
wirelessly).

The reason I'm slowly putting everything on DVD as well is for off-site 
storage - in case of fire or, particularly, lightning. A direct 
lightning strike could easily fry both hard drives, making backup kind 
of moot :) This might not be an issue for some people but, Pittsburgh is 
right on the edge of the Appalachians and we get some wicked 
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Re: DA* 16-50 f2.8 hood cap missing?

[John Francis]

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 09:20:42PM +0200, Frank Wajer wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> my DA* 16-50 f2.8 just arrived, but when I looked at the hood I noticed the 
> missing cap. I mean the cap that fills the slot which enables you to rotate 
> a polariser without removing the hood. There should be one on the hood, like 
> on the FA 24-90, right?
> I'll be really p.ss.d if I need to send the lens back just for this small 
> thing.
> 
> regards,
> 
> Frank 

I asked myself "What is this man talking about?".

So I took a close look at the hood for my 16-50, and there's this little
piece on the bottom that can be taken out.  Neat!

So yes, Frank, there should be a cover provided for that little cutout.


Ask your seller to supply one - it should be a lot cheaper for them than
having to deal with a return and replacement.


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DA* 16-50 f2.8 hood cap missing?

[Frank Wajer]

Hi all,

my DA* 16-50 f2.8 just arrived, but when I looked at the hood I noticed the 
missing cap. I mean the cap that fills the slot which enables you to rotate 
a polariser without removing the hood. There should be one on the hood, like 
on the FA 24-90, right?
I'll be really p.ss.d if I need to send the lens back just for this small 
thing.

regards,

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RE: A warthog on a bicycle

[Bob W]

I looked at the Toploaders but they're too fussy for me - all zips and
clips getting in the way.

Bob 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
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> Subject: Re: A warthog on a bicycle
> 
> congrats on the enablement. :-)
> 
> Reminds me of the LowePro TopLoader series. I've been considering
one
> of those for carrying the camera on my chest when backpacking
(clicked
> onto the shoulder straps of the backpack) because they come in
> different sizes; and one seem to fit a K10D with vertical grip and a
> telezoom attached. I could only find one size of the Warthog... :-(
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RE: My First Wedding

[Bob W]

> First of all (keeping in mind I've never done this sort of thing
> before), I'm thinking that I'd rather go through proofs with them
and
> then process the ones they want and send them a cd of the processed
> shots - not just give them a cd of raw images for them to process.
> 

Just send us the film and we'll get it processed. 

Yea, right. The secret of being a good photographer is never to show
people your bad photographs. If you show them everything you've done
they will probably take away the impression that you're a crap
photographer who got lucky a few times, or they'll think your shutter
release got stuck because so many pictures look the same. Do your own
edit and present them with a selection of good photos and they will
think you're a genius, and will pay more.

> Second (and most importantly):  What should I charge. 

Arm and a leg. What's your time worth? Work out how many hours you
will spend, including editing and processing time, multiply it by how
much you think you're worth per hour, then add the cost of materials.
As an ex-lawyer, multiply the result by 1024 then add GST, VAT and
disbursements, plus a $10,000 retainer for the divorce.

Bob

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of frank theriault
> Sent: 23 July 2008 19:32
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> Subject: My First Wedding
> 
> Shooting my first wedding, that is.
> 
> I recently ran into an old acquaintance.  I had my camera with me
(as
> I almost always do), and after some conversation, he and his partner
> ended up asking me to shoot their wedding.  They know I'm an avid
> amateur and they know I've never shot a wedding before.  They also
> know that they'll have to pay for this.  I got an interesting e-mail
> from them, with the following:
> 
> "We are thinking of gathering in the mid-afternoon for some 'staged'
> shots - coming down the stairs, in the elevator, families, etc., and
> then you could just do candids through the evening.
> 
> We would only really need the digital files from you - we'll figure
> out what we wanted printed and touch-up's, etc. A DVD/CD of the
images
> would be fine."
> 
> First of all (keeping in mind I've never done this sort of thing
> before), I'm thinking that I'd rather go through proofs with them
and
> then process the ones they want and send them a cd of the processed
> shots - not just give them a cd of raw images for them to process.
> 
> Second (and most importantly):  What should I charge.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
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Re: PESO: What is the middle Object?

[P. J. Alling]

That's quite interesting.  (I was going to say something about the 
X-Files movie being released soon but...)

Walter Hamler wrote:
> I shot this back in June 1978. It is a close conjunction of Saturn and
> Mars. I shot 5 frames and one frame had the object shown here between
> the two planets. I believe it is a meteor caught just as it was
> entering the atmosphere. The exposure was maybe 2 seconds on B&W Tech
> Pan film.
>
> Walt
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/Saturn-and-Marsweb.jpg
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Re: My First Wedding

[Scott Loveless]

frank theriault wrote:
> Shooting my first wedding, that is.

Run away!  Run away!

> First of all (keeping in mind I've never done this sort of thing
> before), I'm thinking that I'd rather go through proofs with them and
> then process the ones they want and send them a cd of the processed
> shots - not just give them a cd of raw images for them to process.

I agree.  If they botch the processing, have it printed at the local 
drug store and then mount it in a crap frame, anyone who sees the end 
result may very well think that your name is Ken Rockwell.  After 
weeding out the obviously bad photos give them a proof CD.  Maybe do 
some minimal batch processing - auto contrast, color, etc.  When they 
select the photos they like, then you can put some effort into processing.

Unfortunately, we don't get to maintain control when we hand over files 
or negs.  If you can give them something that looks good to start with, 
maybe the end result won't be too bad.

> Second (and most importantly):  What should I charge.

It's easy.  Figure out, before hand, how long it's going to take you to 
shoot the wedding and process the photos.  Figure in travel expenses, 
insurance, buy yourself some new batteries and memory cards, and the 
cost to resole your Birkenstock's.  Multiply this amount by the 532nd 
prime gap.  Divide by (your love of photography + how hot the bride is). 
  Compare that to what the local guys charge for a similar service, and 
if your estimate more than twice or less than than half the local 
average, just pull a number out of your ass.

> Thanks.

You're welcome.

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RE: PESO - Same Book, Different Opinions

[Bob W]

Great shot. 

Just looked up the book on Amazon. I'm with the dog on this one.

Bob

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> (messengering) three days a week for the rest of the summer and I'm
> really enjoying it, but it means I'm not online very much during the
> week.
> 
> Anyway, here's a fun shot I got on the subway on the weekend:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/6yshca
> 
> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SIciojMHq3I/CtM/gN
> HmN48Rv7w/s1600-h/july_23_08+003.jpg
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PESO: Behind the Finger Painting

[Jack Davis]

I mentioned my granddaughter's finger painting was hung on our dining room wall 
over one of my luckier photo accidents. Occurred to me it hadn't been PESO'D in 
the past. (at least this format/conversion)
So:...

Jack

Colorado, near Dallas Divide.

Comments happily accepted.

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Mamiya 6, w/50mmf/4L, T-Max 100


  

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RE: PESO: What is the middle Object?

[Bob W]

It's the birth of a parallel universe. 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Walter Hamler
> Sent: 23 July 2008 16:52
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> Subject: PESO: What is the middle Object?
> 
> I shot this back in June 1978. It is a close conjunction of Saturn
and
> Mars. I shot 5 frames and one frame had the object shown here
between
> the two planets. I believe it is a meteor caught just as it was
> entering the atmosphere. The exposure was maybe 2 seconds on B&W
Tech
> Pan film.
> 
> Walt
> 
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/Saturn-and-Ma
> rsweb.jpg
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My First Wedding

[frank theriault]

Shooting my first wedding, that is.

I recently ran into an old acquaintance.  I had my camera with me (as
I almost always do), and after some conversation, he and his partner
ended up asking me to shoot their wedding.  They know I'm an avid
amateur and they know I've never shot a wedding before.  They also
know that they'll have to pay for this.  I got an interesting e-mail
from them, with the following:

"We are thinking of gathering in the mid-afternoon for some 'staged'
shots - coming down the stairs, in the elevator, families, etc., and
then you could just do candids through the evening.

We would only really need the digital files from you - we'll figure
out what we wanted printed and touch-up's, etc. A DVD/CD of the images
would be fine."

First of all (keeping in mind I've never done this sort of thing
before), I'm thinking that I'd rather go through proofs with them and
then process the ones they want and send them a cd of the processed
shots - not just give them a cd of raw images for them to process.

Second (and most importantly):  What should I charge.

Thanks.

cheers,
frank

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Re: PESO: What is the middle Object?

[Walter Hamler]

No chance of it being a comet. If it was, it would have been in the
other 4 images taken within a 20 second time frame. As it was, I shot
5 images and this one solitary frame had the meteor looking object.
I would say it was a flying saucer but then I would be calling myselg a "kook" !

:-)

Walt

On 7/23/08, Amita Guha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Walter Hamler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I shot this back in June 1978. It is a close conjunction of Saturn and
> > Mars. I shot 5 frames and one frame had the object shown here between
> > the two planets. I believe it is a meteor caught just as it was
> > entering the atmosphere. The exposure was maybe 2 seconds on B&W Tech
> > Pan film.
> >
> > Walt
> >
> > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/Saturn-and-Marsweb.jpg
>
> Great shot, Walt! Could it be a comet? Is the sun to the left of the frame?
>
> Amita
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Re: Pentax K10D Hotfilter info needed.

[Mark Roberts]

Cotty wrote:
> On 23/7/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> He might do a good hands-on job himself, though...
> 
> Mark!

Har!

Here's the best one of the past couple of days:

"Be prepared for utter nonsense."
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Re: PESO: What is the middle Object?

[Amita Guha]

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Walter Hamler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I shot this back in June 1978. It is a close conjunction of Saturn and
> Mars. I shot 5 frames and one frame had the object shown here between
> the two planets. I believe it is a meteor caught just as it was
> entering the atmosphere. The exposure was maybe 2 seconds on B&W Tech
> Pan film.
>
> Walt
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/Saturn-and-Marsweb.jpg

Great shot, Walt! Could it be a comet? Is the sun to the left of the frame?

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Re: PESO - Same Book, Different Opinions

[Cotty]

On 23/7/08, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Anyway, here's a fun shot I got on the subway on the weekend:
>
>http://tinyurl.com/6yshca
>
>http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SIciojMHq3I/CtM/gNHmN48Rv7w/
>s1600-h/july_23_08+003.jpg
>
>Hope you enjoy!

That's one of your better shots mate. Love the crop and the ghostly
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Re: Pentax K10D Hotfilter info needed.

[Cotty]

On 23/7/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:

>He might do a good hands-on job himself, though...

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Re: PESO - Same Book, Different Opinions

[Walter Hamler]

The title of the book appears to say "God on a Harley"  She doesn't
appear to be a "biker babe" ;-)

Frank, just curious, you seem to be on a bus often. Do you take your
bike with you when riding a bus? Here in Orlando the buses all have
bike racks on the front to hold bicycles.

Walt

On 7/23/08, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Haven't been able to be on-list since Friday.  I'm back on the road
> (messengering) three days a week for the rest of the summer and I'm
> really enjoying it, but it means I'm not online very much during the
> week.
>
> Anyway, here's a fun shot I got on the subway on the weekend:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6yshca
>
> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SIciojMHq3I/CtM/gNHmN48Rv7w/s1600-h/july_23_08+003.jpg
>
> Hope you enjoy!
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
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Re: PESO: What is the middle Object?

[Walter Hamler]

Keith, I was using an 8" f/8 telescope. The camera was attached to an
eyepiece adapter that holds an eyepiece attached to the telescope and
projects the image onto the film. I believe the effective f value was
like f/50, so the effective focal length was like 400 inches (10,000
mm).

Walt

On 7/23/08, keith_w <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Walter Hamler wrote:
> > I shot this back in June 1978. It is a close conjunction of Saturn and
> > Mars. I shot 5 frames and one frame had the object shown here between
> > the two planets. I believe it is a meteor caught just as it was
> > entering the atmosphere. The exposure was maybe 2 seconds on B&W Tech
> > Pan film.
> >
> > Walt
> >
> > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/Saturn-and-Marsweb.jpg
> >
>
> Great luck, and very good exposure!
> What were you using for a lens?
>
> keith whaley
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Re: I found me a dead alien

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Christine  Aguila
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just a funny--my husband named it.  Not a peso--just what I call a "giggle
> post."  Cheers, Christine
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7587859

You may think it a "giggle post", but I think it may be a much
stronger image than you imagine it to be.  As someone else said,
there's a definite "Arbus-like" quality to this one.

Terrific shot!

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Re: PESO: What is the middle Object?

[keith_w]

Walter Hamler wrote:
> I shot this back in June 1978. It is a close conjunction of Saturn and
> Mars. I shot 5 frames and one frame had the object shown here between
> the two planets. I believe it is a meteor caught just as it was
> entering the atmosphere. The exposure was maybe 2 seconds on B&W Tech
> Pan film.
> 
> Walt
> 
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/Saturn-and-Marsweb.jpg
> 

Great luck, and very good exposure!
What were you using for a lens?

keith whaley

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Re: I found me a dead alien

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 10:06 PM, Steve Desjardins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  There is this tragic expression
> on her face that adds a perverse gravitas to this ludicrous scene. 

Mark!

cheers,
frank

ps:  Steve, stop talkin' like a frickin' perfesser!

;-)

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Re: Peso Two team plowing

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On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 2:51 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7587817
>
> Two team Belgiums and I think, this was the single plow.
>
> D2H, 80-200 F2.8, LR conversion.
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Wonderful shot, terrific conversion!

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Re: PESO: Angelina with question

[Christine Aguila]

Thanks, Frank.  Glad you're having fun with your new work schedule! ;-)  Big 
cheers, Christine


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> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Christine  Aguila
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi Everyone:
>>
>> Man, you should have seen the orange color cast on this one--but a little
>> desaturation worked just fine.  Good thing I shot RAW.
>>
>> Anyway, if you look at her shoulder on the right side of the frame, she's
>> got some pinky skin, an X, and a goldy splotchy spot.  It doesn't bother 
>> me
>> in the least; the human body is not perfect, but I would be interested in
>> knowing the degree to which you'all thought it distracting.   If the
>> consensus is it's too distracting, I'll do some cloning.
>>
>> The frame is 850 on the long edge so you could see the skin markings.
>>
>>
>> K10D, 50-135mm, 85mm, ISO 320, 1/800 @ f4
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7592024
>>
>> Frank critique/comments very welcome.
>>
>> Cheers, Christine
>
> I like it a lot as is, but then I'm a sucker for a pretty woman with a
> lovely smile.  ;-)
>
> As for the "blemish" or whatever it is, it's her, it in no way
> detracts, and quite frankly, had you not mentioned it, I'd have likely
> not noticed it.  I say leave it.
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: Stock Photo Price Calculator Link

[Bong Manayon]

Useful information!  Thanks!

Bong

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Dario Bonazza
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> Thanks Christine. That's very interesting to me.
> Dario
>
> - Original Message -
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> To: 
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> Subject: Stock Photo Price Calculator Link
>
>
>> Surfin & found this.  Thought I'd pass it on to any who might have need of
>> it.  Cheers, Christine
>>
>>
>> http://photographersindex.com/stockprice.htm
>>
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Re: GESO: She

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Bong Manayon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's her name..."She" (short "e")
>
> http://www.bong.uni.cc/geso/2008-02.htm
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> Bong

Stunning work!

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PESO: What is the middle Object?

[Walter Hamler]

I shot this back in June 1978. It is a close conjunction of Saturn and
Mars. I shot 5 frames and one frame had the object shown here between
the two planets. I believe it is a meteor caught just as it was
entering the atmosphere. The exposure was maybe 2 seconds on B&W Tech
Pan film.

Walt

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/Saturn-and-Marsweb.jpg

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Re: PESO: Locked Out

[frank theriault]

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:32 AM, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> G'day All.
>
> One from a photo walk this weekend (~80kb)
>
> 
>
> K20D, FA* 200mm f2.8, 1/500 @ f4.0, ISO 200
>
> Comments welcome.

Terrific shot!

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Re: Angelina with question

[Christine Aguila]

Hi William:  Big thanks for the feedback.  Truth be told, I have no idea 
what it means to idealize an image. I'd be up for a definition or example. 
Cheers, Christine


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>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Christine Aguila"
> Subject: PESO: Angelina with question
>
>
>> Hi Everyone:
>>
>> Man, you should have seen the orange color cast on this one--but a little
>> desaturation worked just fine.  Good thing I shot RAW.
>>
>> Anyway, if you look at her shoulder on the right side of the frame, she's
>> got some pinky skin, an X, and a goldy splotchy spot.  It doesn't bother 
>> me
>> in the least; the human body is not perfect, but I would be interested in
>> knowing the degree to which you'all thought it distracting.   If the
>> consensus is it's too distracting, I'll do some cloning.
>>
>> The frame is 850 on the long edge so you could see the skin markings.
>>
>>
>> K10D, 50-135mm, 85mm, ISO 320, 1/800 @ f4
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7592024
>>
>> Frank critique/comments very welcome.
>
> I wouldn't concern myself with this sort of flaw unless you are wanting to 
> idealize  the image,
> in which case I can see about a dozen things wrong with the picture that 
> need to be "fixed".
>
> William Robb
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Re: A warthog on a bicycle

[Christine Aguila]

Bob: Glad you found a bag you like.  FYI  Bob, I 1st learned about Domke 
bags from your post a while back, & I've since secured me one.  I like it 
very much.  So, thanks.  I purchased the F-4Af Pro System.  It's a bit boxy 
& when loaded a bit heavy, but I can work out of it without setting it down 
like a back-pack, which is what I really wanted.  All camera bags look 
really silly on me, since I'm so short--


FYI to Jostein:  I have the Top Loader TLZ2.  It fits the K10D with battery 
grip & the DA* 50-135mm.  The trick is to lower the bridge pads on the 
Velcro--that way you can get the rig in the bag with grip attached--and zip 
up the bag.   There's a pocket on the outside & a little interior pocket on 
the flap.  I wanted something to lug just a camera and lens--I don't like 
the way it hangs with shoulder strap--kind of flaps around, but clicked to a 
backpack will probably make for more aerodynamic travel ;-).  I've never 
tried that.  There's also a belt loop, so you could attach to a belt.

Cheers, Christine


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Subject: Re: A warthog on a bicycle


> congrats on the enablement. :-)
>
> Reminds me of the LowePro TopLoader series. I've been considering one
> of those for carrying the camera on my chest when backpacking (clicked
> onto the shoulder straps of the backpack) because they come in
> different sizes; and one seem to fit a K10D with vertical grip and a
> telezoom attached. I could only find one size of the Warthog... :-(
>
> Jostein
>
>
> 2008/7/23 Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> My new warthog arrived this morning.
>>
>> When I was cycling around bits of Yorkshire last week I had to keep my
>> camera in the saddlebag unprotected, which made me nervous. I recalled
>> that I used to have something called a warthog into which you can
>> insert a camera for ample cosy protection in suchlike circumstances.
>>
>> CCS, the company that used to make warthogs, are now defunct, sad to
>> say, but you can still get your own warthog while stocks last from
>> these people, who bought the remaining stock from CCS and are very
>> prompt:
>> http://www.thedarkroom.co.uk/products_class.php?productID=A108.
>>
>> It's a classic photo accessory and it's a shame to see the end of
>> them. They were originally developed for rock climbers and similar
>> tough outdoorsy people, and are ridiculously over-padded & robust,
>> which makes them ideal for sticking in a saddle-bag or a rucksack.
>> They are also brilliantly simple - no frills, just a velcro closure, a
>> removable shoulder strap and a belt loop thing. No buckles, harnesses,
>> pockets or other fol-de-rols. Before ordering it from the company
>> above I scoured the shops in London for something similar, and there's
>> just nothing else like it - most similar things are not very well
>> padded, or not water-resistant, or are covered in zips and buckles
>> which make it damned near impossible to get the camera out and put it
>> back in quickly.
>>
>> I can just about get the E-1 + 14-54mm lens + battery grip in it.
>> Without the battery grip it's perfect.
>>
>> Bob
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Re: PESO -- You can call me Al.

[frank theriault]

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 6:37 PM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've been acquainted with Al for a number of years.  He didn't know I
> was going to take his photo.
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO%20--%20youcancallmeal.html
>
> Equipment:  Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax 43mm Ltd.
>
> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
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Terrific "casual portrait" - he seems like a real character, at least
as caught in this photo.

I like it a great deal!

cheers,
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Re: PESO: Angelina with question

[frank theriault]

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Christine  Aguila
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Everyone:
>
> Man, you should have seen the orange color cast on this one--but a little
> desaturation worked just fine.  Good thing I shot RAW.
>
> Anyway, if you look at her shoulder on the right side of the frame, she's
> got some pinky skin, an X, and a goldy splotchy spot.  It doesn't bother me
> in the least; the human body is not perfect, but I would be interested in
> knowing the degree to which you'all thought it distracting.   If the
> consensus is it's too distracting, I'll do some cloning.
>
> The frame is 850 on the long edge so you could see the skin markings.
>
>
> K10D, 50-135mm, 85mm, ISO 320, 1/800 @ f4
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7592024
>
> Frank critique/comments very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Christine

I like it a lot as is, but then I'm a sucker for a pretty woman with a
lovely smile.  ;-)

As for the "blemish" or whatever it is, it's her, it in no way
detracts, and quite frankly, had you not mentioned it, I'd have likely
not noticed it.  I say leave it.

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Re: PESO - Same Book, Different Opinions

[Christine Aguila]

That's terrific, Frank--funny, well rendered & composed--main subject 
surrounded by nice little details.  A winner!  Cheers, Christine


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> Haven't been able to be on-list since Friday.  I'm back on the road
> (messengering) three days a week for the rest of the summer and I'm
> really enjoying it, but it means I'm not online very much during the
> week.
>
> Anyway, here's a fun shot I got on the subway on the weekend:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6yshca
>
> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SIciojMHq3I/CtM/gNHmN48Rv7w/s1600-h/july_23_08+003.jpg
>
> Hope you enjoy!
>
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Re: Two external HD's or stay with CD's

[Toine]

I'm using external HD's. The raw files are stored on an internal disc
and synced to an external HD with DirSync. Also synced to a small
server elsewhere in the house and just to be sure synced over the
internet to my PC at work. DirSync only transfers new or changed
files. USB1.1 or a slow network is no problem DirSync can be set up to
delete or keep older or delete (source)files on the target file
system. If your deleting files on a RAID system your best hope is the
recycle bin. Even with a RAID system I would use dirsync to keep a
archive copy.

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 1:49 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My current back up includes transfering files to one external HD,
> Maxtor, and to either a CD or DVD depending on the files sizes.
>
> I'm thinking the CD's and DVD's may go, and add another external and
> back up on both.
>
> I rarely travel to farms or homes that want to see photos, but with
> the small size of the HD's these days, carrying one or two should not
> be a problem.
>
> Any one see any potential problems other than all three HD's going for a 
> S%^*T.
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Re: Mostly tilt and somewhat shift

[Scott Loveless]

Boris Liberman wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> The idea of controlling DOF with the lens tilt starts to tickle my
> fancy... It turns out that Pentax only has shift lens (28/3.5 in K
> mount) and there are some 3rd party lenses. Any thoughts, ideas, etc
> on the matter would be greatly appreciated. Currently I am thinking in
> more theoretical terms, however it could become quite practical.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
A Lensbaby is probably the most economical way to play around with tilt. 
  You could just suck it up and get a view camera.  ;)

In reality you're not altering DOF by tilting the lens, but rather 
skewing your plane of focus.  Dig around online and try to find some 
large format photographs that show a significant amount of tilt with a 
large aperture.  The effect is quite striking.

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