RE: PESO Don't touch my flowers

[Chris Mitchell]

Toine wrote:
> While trying to capture some local flora and avoiding local ticks I
> felt watched. The lady wasn't that attractive when I tried talking to
> her.
> 
> http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/143-dont-touch-my-
> flowers
> 
> Toine

That's good, but I like the other picture on that page - the close-up of the
window.

Chris



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Re: PESO - cowboy

[David J Brooks]

I repeat my Facebook comment.

Wonderful

Dave

On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> http://dougbrewer.posterous.com/cowboy-215
>
> enjoy
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RE: PESO - cowboy

[Chris Mitchell]

Doug Brewer wrote:
> 
> http://dougbrewer.posterous.com/cowboy-215
> 
> enjoy
> 
And enjoy I did. Excellent angle and composition.

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Re: OT: How much of the Bard is in each of us?

[Madame RD]

Le 22/06/10 01:20, Brian Walters a écrit :

On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:52 -0400, "P. J. Alling"
  wrote:
   

Quite silly really.

 

There's not enough silliness in the world in my opinion.

   

the Monty Python are sorely missed ... ;-)
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Re: PESO -- Precision Motor Cars

[Larry Colen]

On Jun 21, 2010, at 6:44 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> Juxtaposition...
> 
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20precisionmotorcars.html

I love it. Excellent angle. The only thing I'd suggest it sot crop it a bit 
tighter to put the van much closer to one of the corners rather than quite so 
centered, probably the lower right.


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RE: GESO: Club Photo exhibition

[Chris Mitchell]

Brian Walters wrote
> "Chris Mitchell"
>  wrote:
> > The club I belong to, The New City Photographic Society, has an
> annual
> > exhibition which takes place in Newport Pagnell, a market town on the
> > fringe
> > of Milton Keynes. It's a great way of engaging the community and
> > attracting
> > new members.
> >
> > My 2 pictures from the PDML annual were selected, along with a couple
> of
> > others including a Chicago reflections one. Gallery here:
> > http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/NCPSExhibition2010/
> >
> > As well as the exhibition, we run a studio for the day and invite
> > families
> > to come in and have portraits taken. It's a good money spinner for
> the
> > club
> > and is very popular. Families book year after year and there's one
> lot
> > that
> > came in on Saturday whose daughter was a baby when they started
> coming
> > and
> > she now has a family of her own - and they all came to be
> photographed.
> >
> > In the old days we'd shoot a 36 exposure print film and hand it over
> to
> > the
> > customers at the end for them to get it processed. Now they get a
> dvd.
> >
> 
> 
> 
> There look to be some excellent works there.  That set by Peter Clarke
> looks to be especially good. I don't suppose there's an online gallery
> of the images?

Afraid not. It would be well worthwhile, but herding cats is easier than
getting 20 or so members to coordinate activities...





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Re: Any chance of selling to a car mag?

[Sandy Harris]

Googling "49 Caddy" turns up one car mag with such a story
http://www.hotrod.com/featuredvehicles/63359_1949_cadillac_sedanette/index.html

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Any chance of selling to a car mag?

[Larry Colen]

Last October I ran across a very pretty, very custom '49 caddy in local 
shopping center.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622519370121/

I have the opportunity to go to the owner/builder's shop and do another photo 
shoot of the car (and his newer project).

Is there any chance of selling the photos to a car magazine?  If so, what sort 
of photos should I shoot to maximize  my chance of selling them?

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Re: Any chance of selling to a car mag?

[Northeast Media]

It depends on the locations and light available, sorry thats not much help.

But try as many differtn angles as possible.

Writing the story about the car and the builder would be a big plus.

Phil

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Last October I ran across a very pretty, very custom '49 caddy in local 
shopping center.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622519370121/

I have the opportunity to go to the owner/builder's shop and do another 
photo shoot of the car (and his newer project).


Is there any chance of selling the photos to a car magazine?  If so, what 
sort of photos should I shoot to maximize  my chance of selling them?


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Re: PESO -- [Black] Bird on a Wire

[Madame RD]

Le 22/06/10 02:44, P. J. Alling a écrit :


A minor crop, (to improve the composition just a bit), of a shot of a 
Red Wing Black Bird.





love it . balanced and colourful .. and i didn't know blackbirds could 
have red wings in the New World . thanks .


dominique



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Re: OT: How much of the Bard is in each of us?

[AlunFoto]

2010/6/22 Brian Walters :
> There's not enough silliness in the world in my opinion.

Agreed!


Great fun, Dan! Thanks for posting.

Here's another source trying to compensate, along the same vein:

http://www.jir.com/

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Re: handing the camera to someone else

[Joseph McAllister]

On Jun 21, 2010, at 17:09 , William Robb wrote:



A 1 year

> old Pit bull terrier, American Eskimo mix, brindle bitch


Wow, you go for the hard asses don't you.
While I've never met a Pitbull that I didn't like, I've never met  
an American Eskimo that was anything other than a mean spirited  
prick.


It's from boredom I suspect. If you're not the lead dog, the  
scenery never changes.


American Eskimo is a toy breed. They weren't bred to be anything  
other than a companion dog.
They are definitely derived from Nordic dogs though, and a lot of  
those breeds have a tendency to be nasty little dogs.



And a nasty little gal she is. This afternoon she went up against a  
half dozen large dogs, putting them in their place as soon as they  
came in the gate. But she spent most of the afternoon chewing on the  
neck of a Scottie. Doesn't like black Labs either. Chases them around  
nipping at their heels.


Har!

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Re: OT - Mac address?

[eckinator]

2010/6/21 Adam Maas :
>
> The IP stack routes based on IP not hardware addressing, it's running
> at layer 3 and never sees the MAC address. Layer 1 & 2 are handles by
> the hardware and the drivers respectively. Typically routing
> implementations are by IP and associated network interface (eth0 et
> al). The drivers and hardware get the traffic from the stack in
> separate buffers based on physical interface, MAC addresses really
> only have a function when the hardware/driver is listening to incoming
> traffic on the interface.

OK I agree with that bit

> Most Wifi setups are segmented from the wired LAN from the WAP, which
> is usually the router for both the Wifi and Wired so it while it looks
> like a bridged connection, it's actually two separate segments. It's
> rare to have a WAP running in bridged mode since the WAP then has to
> rebroadcast all the traffic on the wired segment which leads to
> additional congestion. Generally you have the Wifi on the same subnet
> but a different segment in smaller organizations and a completely
> different subnet and routed segment for larger implementations.

I wish. Most networks I encounter have an access point plugged into a
port on the only switch, often despite the fact that they have a
firewall with one or multiple free optional network ports you can
route between and filter traffic and more often than not I find
clients connected to the network twice, wired and wireless at the same
time. When I point this out, the response usually is, it works so what
are you making such a fuss about... It is nice to be talking to
someone (you) who seems to know their stuff but it is a jungle out
there... still, can you name a product? I've googled a fair bit and
can't find one.
TIA
Ecke

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Re: Very OT Whoo Hoo

[eckinator]

2010/6/21 Tanya Love :
>
> I figure that my hubby has enough "nice" in him for both of us! Lol!

I used to think that of myself but I have to warn you, it wears thin
very abruptly...
Cheers
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Re: PESO - Divergence

[eckinator]

2010/6/21 Rick Womer :
>
> The sand is almost always there--the trolleys release it to help with 
> traction.

Oh I see, I thought it was left over from laying those tracks. Sorry
about the misunderstand.

> Velvia... velvia... hmmm...  Is that a lurid orange cheese or a film that 
> produces luridly colored slides?
> (Ah, yes.  Velveeta is the cheese...)

A blend of both, a film that produces cheesy colored slides if you
know how to use it right...

Cheers
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Re: PESO -- Precision Motor Cars

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2010/6/22 Larry Colen :
>
> I love it. Excellent angle. The only thing I'd suggest it sot crop it a bit 
> tighter to put the van much closer to one of the corners rather than quite so 
> centered, probably the lower right.

What Larry said.
Other than that, three words:
Far out, man...
Thanks for sharing
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Re: PESO Don't touch my flowers

[eckinator]

2010/6/21 Jack Davis :
> She has sort of a hard look about her.;)
> I like the shot, Toine.

I was going to say she looks hard headed... Jack beat me to it - nice
shot, Toine
Cheers
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Re: Any chance of selling to a car mag?

[paul stenquist]

Talk to the magazines first. Go to a bookstore and find some specialty mags 
that feature similar cars and query the editors. Show them the pics you took 
previously. You'll have a much better chance of selling the pics if you can 
write an article as well.

You'll want to shoot the cars in an open area in either very early morning or 
very late evening light. The backgrounds should be clean. Trees are okay, but 
its best if they are far enough from the cars that they'll be out of focus. 
Architectural backgrounds are okay, but you have to know how to work with them. 
Shooting the cars in the guys shop is almost certainly a no-sell. Check out the 
kind of photography the magazines you're querying feature.

Paul
On Jun 22, 2010, at 2:25 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

> Last October I ran across a very pretty, very custom '49 caddy in local 
> shopping center.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622519370121/
> 
> I have the opportunity to go to the owner/builder's shop and do another photo 
> shoot of the car (and his newer project).
> 
> Is there any chance of selling the photos to a car magazine?  If so, what 
> sort of photos should I shoot to maximize  my chance of selling them?
> 
>   Larry
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OT - sailing

[Cotty]

At the weekend I took part in a sailing race around the Isle of Wight in
the UK. I was filming for our news programme, and if you want to waste a
few minutes, you can see it here:



The first few shots and all aerials done by organiser's contractor, but
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Re: OT - sailing

[Igor Roshchin]

Cotty,
it says:
"Sorry, this video is only available to be viewed within the United
Kingdom. If you are inside the UK and believe you have received this
message in error, please visit the Help Pages."

... and if I am outside the UK , but I still believe this message is 
an error?

Igor


Tue Jun 22 06:31:05 CDT 2010
Cotty wrote:

At the weekend I took part in a sailing race around the Isle of Wight in
the UK. I was filming for our news programme, and if you want to waste a
few minutes, you can see it here:



The first few shots and all aerials done by organiser's contractor, but
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Re: OT - sailing

[Cotty]

On 22/6/10, Igor Roshchin, discombobulated, unleashed:

>"Sorry, this video is only available to be viewed within the United
>Kingdom. If you are inside the UK and believe you have received this
>message in error, please visit the Help Pages."
>
>... and if I am outside the UK , but I still believe this message is
>an error?

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RE: OT - sailing

[John Sessoms]

From: Cotty

At the weekend I took part in a sailing race around the Isle of Wight in
the UK. I was filming for our news programme, and if you want to waste a
few minutes, you can see it here:



The first few shots and all aerials done by organiser's contractor, but
everything aboard the boat we were on courtesy me.


"Sorry, this video is only available to be viewed within the United 
Kingdom."


Was this the race where the CEO of BP took a few days off "to get his 
life back"?


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PESO - Twilight on the Pond

[frank theriault]

Last evening, being the longest day of the year, we took a walk to the
ponds next to Lake Ontario.  It was quite calm and still:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/06/twilight-on-pond.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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Re: PESO - Twilight on the Pond

[Jack Davis]

Serene and lovely.
To give you some idea of my state of mental instability, I'd have to remove 
that thing hanging from the bill of the lead duck.

Jack

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> From: frank theriault 
> Subject: PESO - Twilight on the Pond
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 5:04 AM
> Last evening, being the longest day
> of the year, we took a walk to the
> ponds next to Lake Ontario.  It was quite calm and
> still:
> 
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/06/twilight-on-pond.html
> 
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
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PESO -- Please find her.

[P. J. Alling]

A mile stone of sorts, the 3000th shutter activation, well at least the 
image is _imgp3000.  Close enough for for me at this point.  I'd have 
posted this anyway.


Small tragedies seem to hurt the worst, and childhood gives them a 
special poignancy.


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20pleasefindher.html

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Re: OT: How much of the Bard is in each of us?

[Boris Liberman]

Repeating that reasoning we can arrive to the similar figure of atoms 
from A. Einstein, J. Christ, D. Maradona (still alive, by the way) and 
many other historical figures within us. I demand to be allowed to carry 
my own atoms and as such I demand that they be calculated in a proper 
and precise manner!


Boris


On 6/21/2010 4:41 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

http://www.jupiterscientific.org/review/shnecal.html




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Re: focusing screen fun

[Boris Liberman]

On 6/20/2010 11:01 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

I cleaned things up and put them back together this morning. There
are a couple of new scuff marks and it seems like a small hair on the
edge of the focusing screen, but things seem to work and focus OK.
I've got no idea what happened, I hadn't dropped the camera or
anything.


You're being overly perfectionist, Larry.

Boris

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RE: PESO -- Please find her.

[Malcolm Smith]

> P. J. Alling wrote:

> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20pleasefindher.html

Sad subject material, wonderfully captured.

Malcolm


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Re: PESO -- Please find her.

[Jack Davis]

Brilliant find, Peter! I'll not soon forget its impression.

Jack

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> From: P. J. Alling 
> Subject: PESO -- Please find her.
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 6:22 AM
> A mile stone of sorts, the 3000th
> shutter activation, well at least the image is
> _imgp3000.  Close enough for for me at this
> point.  I'd have posted this anyway.
> 
> Small tragedies seem to hurt the worst, and childhood gives
> them a special poignancy.
> 
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20pleasefindher.html
> 
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> f3.8~5.6
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Re: OT: How much of the Bard is in each of us?

[Dario Bonazza]

Boris Liberman wrote:

Repeating that reasoning we can arrive to the similar figure of atoms from 
A. Einstein, J. Christ, D. Maradona (still alive, by the way) and many 
other historical figures within us.


Well, not actually, as Shakey has been alive for 52 years, while Christ just 
for 33. Maradona is approaching 50 years, still owns a good part of his 
atoms and is entitled to exceed the bard's life duration. Not sure how good 
the latter news is for the world, though.


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Re: PESO Don't touch my flowers

[Doug Brewer]

Chris Mitchell wrote:

Toine wrote:

While trying to capture some local flora and avoiding local ticks I
felt watched. The lady wasn't that attractive when I tried talking to
her.

http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/143-dont-touch-my-
flowers

Toine


That's good, but I like the other picture on that page - the close-up of the
window.

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Re: OT - sailing

[Cotty]

Here you go:



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Re: OT: How much of the Bard is in each of us?

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2010/6/22 Dario Bonazza :
>
>> Repeating that reasoning we can arrive to the similar figure of atoms from
>> A. Einstein, J. Christ, D. Maradona (still alive, by the way) and many other
>> historical figures within us.
>
> Well, not actually, as Shakey has been alive for 52 years, while Christ just
> for 33. Maradona is approaching 50 years, still owns a good part of his
> atoms and is entitled to exceed the bard's life duration. Not sure how good
> the latter news is for the world, though.

What we all seem to forget is that none of said atoms ever were in any
way /originally/ associated with any one of said individuals. Or any
other, for that matter. All those atoms were pre-owned and pre-used
even back when Neanderdollar Man laid his hairy hands on them... While
it is nice to know that they may have passed through x with a
probability of y hence making z the odds of one of them buzzing around
my brain right now all that doesn't change jack doodley doo about
their or my nature thus making them completely irrelevant to the lousy
quality of my photos. I'll screw those atoms, eat my lunch and go out
and actuate my shutter some and I won't have a care in the world how
many atoms pre-owned by HCB are in it's blades...
Cheers
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Re: PESO -- Please find her.

[Paul Sorenson]

Very poignant

-p

 On 6/22/2010 8:22 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
A mile stone of sorts, the 3000th shutter activation, well at least 
the image is _imgp3000.  Close enough for for me at this point.  I'd 
have posted this anyway.


Small tragedies seem to hurt the worst, and childhood gives them a 
special poignancy.


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20pleasefindher.html

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Re: OT: How much of the Bard is in each of us?

[William Robb]

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What we all seem to forget is that none of said atoms ever were in any
way /originally/ associated with any one of said individuals. Or any
other, for that matter.


Good thing too, since a lot of us probably also share atoms with Attila the 
Hun, Adolf Hitler, etc.

Gotta take the bad with the good

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Re: peso - reading

[Sasha Sobol]

Thanks to everyone.
--Sasha


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> Nice shot, and proof that Flickr is a small world (the commenter,
> Still the Oldie, is an acquiantance of mine from the Toronto group on
> flickr).
>
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peso - bathing

[Sasha Sobol]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4723826732/

That's with 60/250

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Re: PESO - Twilight on the Pond

[Daniel J. Matyola]

That's very nice, Frank.  I love the patterns.  It's an abstract nature shot!

Dan

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> Last evening, being the longest day of the year, we took a walk to the
> ponds next to Lake Ontario.  It was quite calm and still:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/06/twilight-on-pond.html
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> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
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> cheers,
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Re: peso - bathing

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I love the way you caught the drops of water in mid air. It is an
interesting and effective image.

Dan

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Re: OT - sailing

[Bob Sullivan]

Cotty,
Looks like a wonderful sailing event, more boats than I've ever seen under sail!
Wonderful picture quality as well.  Did you spend the full 8 hours out
with them?
This wasn't the race for the CEO of BP's boat was it?
Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: peso - bathing

[Bob Sullivan]

Good anticipation and shooting Sasha!
Feels like I'm there, in 3D.
Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: OT: How much of the Bard is in each of us?

[eckinator]

2010/6/22 William Robb :
>
> Good thing too, since a lot of us probably also share atoms with Attila the
> Hun, Adolf Hitler, etc.
> Gotta take the bad with the good

Come to think of it, next time I try to pick up a woman at a bar, I
will tell her I have some 20 billion or so of George Clooney's atoms
in my body... ]=)

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Re: PESO -- Please find her.

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2010/6/22 Jack Davis :
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> Brilliant find, Peter! I'll not soon forget its impression.

What Jack said
Thanks for sharing
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Re: OT - Mac address?

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On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 4:34 AM, eckinator  wrote:
> 2010/6/21 Adam Maas :
>
>> Most Wifi setups are segmented from the wired LAN from the WAP, which
>> is usually the router for both the Wifi and Wired so it while it looks
>> like a bridged connection, it's actually two separate segments. It's
>> rare to have a WAP running in bridged mode since the WAP then has to
>> rebroadcast all the traffic on the wired segment which leads to
>> additional congestion. Generally you have the Wifi on the same subnet
>> but a different segment in smaller organizations and a completely
>> different subnet and routed segment for larger implementations.
>
> I wish. Most networks I encounter have an access point plugged into a
> port on the only switch, often despite the fact that they have a
> firewall with one or multiple free optional network ports you can
> route between and filter traffic and more often than not I find
> clients connected to the network twice, wired and wireless at the same
> time. When I point this out, the response usually is, it works so what
> are you making such a fuss about... It is nice to be talking to
> someone (you) who seems to know their stuff but it is a jungle out
> there... still, can you name a product? I've googled a fair bit and
> can't find one.
> TIA
> Ecke

Do a show arp on that switch or the router and you'll usually see the
AP's MAC for all IP's on the wireless segment, the AP itself segments
the network as that's the simplest way to implement an AP.

A good example of something with single MAC and MAC cloning capability
would be Broadcom's SoC Access Point chips.

Most laptop implementations today get 2 MAC's because they use
separate silicon for the Ethernet PHY and the Wifi controller, with
the Ethernet being onboard and the WiFi being a mini-PCI card (this is
the setup in the ipconfig dump you posted earlier), you see the
single-silicon implementations in AP's and such and that's the only
time you'll usually see a single MAC across WiFi and Ethernet unless
someone's been mucking with MAC cloning.

-Adam

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Re: OT - Mac address?

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2010/6/22 Adam Maas :
>
> Do a show arp on that switch or the router and you'll usually see the
> AP's MAC for all IP's on the wireless segment, the AP itself segments
> the network as that's the simplest way to implement an AP.
>
> A good example of something with single MAC and MAC cloning capability
> would be Broadcom's SoC Access Point chips.
>
> Most laptop implementations today get 2 MAC's because they use
> separate silicon for the Ethernet PHY and the Wifi controller, with
> the Ethernet being onboard and the WiFi being a mini-PCI card (this is
> the setup in the ipconfig dump you posted earlier), you see the
> single-silicon implementations in AP's and such and that's the only
> time you'll usually see a single MAC across WiFi and Ethernet unless
> someone's been mucking with MAC cloning.

Thank you, Adam, actually I wasn't aware of some of that.
I'll take a closer look and hopefully learn another thing or two
Cheers
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Re: OT - sailing

[John Francis]

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 12:31:05PM +0100, Cotty wrote:
> At the weekend I took part in a sailing race around the Isle of Wight . . .

You and the CEO of BP, apparently.  Well, he didn't actually take part,
but he was present as a spectator (and he did have a dog in the race).

It's not earning him any brownie points in the US media coverage of
the Deep Horizon debacle.


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PESO - For Dave Brooks

[Christian Skofteland]

Last weekend I took my daughters to the Upperville (Virginia) Horse and Colt 
Show.  This is my favorite shot of the day:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bNuA-oAASYY/TB7OH8WeYMI/Af4/PO3rXli31GA/s1600/jumper_IMG_5647web.jpg

>From this set:
http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2010/06/uperville-horse-and.html

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Re: PESO - For Dave Brooks

[Bruce Dayton]

Nicely done.  They don't fly quite as high as the feathered variety,
do they? 

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Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 9:28:25 AM, you wrote:

CS> Last weekend I took my daughters to the Upperville (Virginia)
CS> Horse and Colt Show.  This is my favorite shot of the day:
CS> 
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bNuA-oAASYY/TB7OH8WeYMI/Af4/PO3rXli31GA/s1600/jumper_IMG_5647web.jpg

CS> From this set:
CS> http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2010/06/uperville-horse-and.html

CS> Comments always apprciated

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Re: peso - bathing

[Bruce Dayton]

Pretty cool how you have caught the water droplets - makes the shot.

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SS> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4723826732/

SS> That's with 60/250

SS> Comments are very welcome.

SS> --Sasha




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Re: PESO -- Please find her.

[Bruce Dayton]

This is one of those shots that really grabs you.  You can just 'see'
the heartbroken child.

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Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 6:22:34 AM, you wrote:

PJA> A mile stone of sorts, the 3000th shutter activation, well at least the
PJA> image is _imgp3000.  Close enough for for me at this point.  I'd have 
PJA> posted this anyway.

PJA> Small tragedies seem to hurt the worst, and childhood gives them a 
PJA> special poignancy.

PJA> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20pleasefindher.html

PJA> Equipment:  Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 28~200mm f3.8~5.6

PJA> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

PJA> -- 
PJA> {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 
Courier New;}}
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Re: peso - bathing

[Steven Desjardins]

The "crispness" of the bird and the drops is really good.  Or maybe I
just like crispy duck ;-)

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Bruce Dayton  wrote:
> Pretty cool how you have caught the water droplets - makes the shot.
>
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Re: PESO -- Please find her.

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Wow.  Great eye, great image, powerful message.  I love it.

Dan

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 11:50 AM, eckinator  wrote:
> 2010/6/22 Jack Davis :
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>> Brilliant find, Peter! I'll not soon forget its impression.
>
> What Jack said
> Thanks for sharing
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Re: PESO -- Please find her.

[paul stenquist]

A moving image, well executed.
Paul


On Jun 22, 2010, at 12:57 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

> This is one of those shots that really grabs you.  You can just 'see'
> the heartbroken child.
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Bruce
> 
> 
> Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 6:22:34 AM, you wrote:
> 
> PJA> A mile stone of sorts, the 3000th shutter activation, well at least the
> PJA> image is _imgp3000.  Close enough for for me at this point.  I'd have 
> PJA> posted this anyway.
> 
> PJA> Small tragedies seem to hurt the worst, and childhood gives them a 
> PJA> special poignancy.
> 
> PJA> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20pleasefindher.html
> 
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> 
> PJA> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
> 
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Re: OT: How much of the Bard is in each of us?

[Daniel J. Matyola]

You had sex with George Clooney?



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> 2010/6/22 William Robb :
>>
>> Good thing too, since a lot of us probably also share atoms with Attila the
>> Hun, Adolf Hitler, etc.
>> Gotta take the bad with the good
>
> Come to think of it, next time I try to pick up a woman at a bar, I
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> in my body... ]=)
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Re: OT: How much of the Bard is in each of us?

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2010/6/22 Daniel J. Matyola :
>
> You had sex with George Clooney?

Naah... I already have a Nespresso machine... =P

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LR3 and focal-length metadata - interesting

[Charles Robinson]

In the past I've seen external software which could analyze your Lightroom 
catalog and tell you what focal length I use most.  Too much of a pain, but 
interesting to see the numbers a couple times.

Now that I can select by focal length in LR, it's fun to see the distribution 
for my 16-50.  Clearly the most-popular is "as wide as possible" followed by 
"full zoom" but after that it seems to be an even distribution...

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/16_50_focal_lengths_used.jpg

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Re: OT: Black Hawk down on bikes

[mike wilson]

Bob W wrote:


Stupidity:



"...the only paved street..."

Doesn't that speak volumes?



Anti-stupidity:




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Re: OT - sailing

[Stan Halpin]

Very nice - thank you.
(Did you ask to be paid for a day of chartered sailing? Or did you offer to pay 
them?)

stan

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> Here you go:
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Re: LR3 and focal-length metadata - interesting

[Toine]

Checked this on my zooms 12-24 16-45 18-250 55-300. most shots at the
borders and rest very little use and evenly distributed. Makes me
wonder why I use 4 zooms...

Toine

On 22 June 2010 19:59, Charles Robinson  wrote:
> In the past I've seen external software which could analyze your Lightroom 
> catalog and tell you what focal length I use most.  Too much of a pain, but 
> interesting to see the numbers a couple times.
>
> Now that I can select by focal length in LR, it's fun to see the distribution 
> for my 16-50.  Clearly the most-popular is "as wide as possible" followed by 
> "full zoom" but after that it seems to be an even distribution...
>
> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/16_50_focal_lengths_used.jpg
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Re: OT - Mac address?

[mike wilson]

Dario Bonazza wrote:

This is very OT, but since we have IT folks over here, I'm trying to 
ask. When trying to book an hotel in Germany, I asked for internet 
connection availability in their rooms. Their reply:
"We have internet connection (wireless lan) in all rooms for free but 
therefore you have to fill out a sheet of paper with your mac-address 
and then we can activate you for using internet."
Since I don't have a Mac, I have no clue what a Mac address is. However, 
I suspect they mean a IP address. Even so, I believe my internet 
wireless connection uses a dynamic IP and in case I have to setup a new 
connection they have to assign me and let me know an IP address...
What would you expect to do with a Win XP laptop for getting such a 
"mac-address" wireless connection?


Thanks a lot.


And, just to inject something useful into this thread, newer machines 
often have a label somewhere with the MAC address written out for you.


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Re: OT Interesting KLM advert at Manchester

[mike wilson]

Bob W wrote:


I can think of one way of doing it but would have expected more
movement.  Anyone else?

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=6NPF0A_vGC4



I think he is sitting on a carbon-fibre chair which is shaped to his right
leg and buttocks and attached through the shoe to the platform. He has been
told to minimise movement so that the chair doesn't bounce and spoil the
illusion.


One form of black magic, I suppose.

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Re: LR3 and focal-length metadata - interesting

[eckinator]

Makes sense. Shots are distributed evenly over all focal lenghts. For
any given lengths the shots you would have taken at a shorter or
longer focal length than the zoom can cover will accumulate at the
ends. Looking at Charles' LR graph his 16-50 is too short approx. 17%
of the time (this takes into account the shots taken at 50 mm when 50
mm wasn't too short) and too long approx. 35% of the time (again
corrected for shots at desired FL). Adobe has given us a nice way of
proving to our SOs that you can never carry (or perhaps have??) too
many lenses...
Cheers
Ecke

2010/6/22 Toine :
> Checked this on my zooms 12-24 16-45 18-250 55-300. most shots at the
> borders and rest very little use and evenly distributed. Makes me
> wonder why I use 4 zooms...
>
> Toine
>
> On 22 June 2010 19:59, Charles Robinson  wrote:
>> In the past I've seen external software which could analyze your Lightroom 
>> catalog and tell you what focal length I use most.  Too much of a pain, but 
>> interesting to see the numbers a couple times.
>>
>> Now that I can select by focal length in LR, it's fun to see the 
>> distribution for my 16-50.  Clearly the most-popular is "as wide as 
>> possible" followed by "full zoom" but after that it seems to be an even 
>> distribution...
>>
>> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/16_50_focal_lengths_used.jpg
>>
>>  -Charles
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Re: PESO - For Dave Brooks

[Bob Sullivan]

Christian,
That's a wonderful shot.
I love the concentration on the girl's face and the look of the eyes.
Plus herbody position is very dymanic, floating above the animal.
The horse is in a great pose too, with fore legs just above the bar,
and his gaze in the foreground vs her's onto the next jump.
I doubt you'll take a better shot, hope it's your daughter!
Regards,  Bob S.

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> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bNuA-oAASYY/TB7OH8WeYMI/Af4/PO3rXli31GA/s1600/jumper_IMG_5647web.jpg
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Re: LR3 and focal-length metadata - interesting

[Toine]

Yes that makes a lot of sense. I can now present the hard evidence LBA
isn't between the ears and I really need more glass since most shots
are at 12 and 300 mm. Only problem is Pentax doesn't provide relief in
this range. :)

Toine

On 22 June 2010 20:37, eckinator  wrote:
> Makes sense. Shots are distributed evenly over all focal lenghts. For
> any given lengths the shots you would have taken at a shorter or
> longer focal length than the zoom can cover will accumulate at the
> ends. Looking at Charles' LR graph his 16-50 is too short approx. 17%
> of the time (this takes into account the shots taken at 50 mm when 50
> mm wasn't too short) and too long approx. 35% of the time (again
> corrected for shots at desired FL). Adobe has given us a nice way of
> proving to our SOs that you can never carry (or perhaps have??) too
> many lenses...
> Cheers
> Ecke
>
> 2010/6/22 Toine :
>> Checked this on my zooms 12-24 16-45 18-250 55-300. most shots at the
>> borders and rest very little use and evenly distributed. Makes me
>> wonder why I use 4 zooms...
>>
>> Toine
>>
>> On 22 June 2010 19:59, Charles Robinson  wrote:
>>> In the past I've seen external software which could analyze your Lightroom 
>>> catalog and tell you what focal length I use most.  Too much of a pain, but 
>>> interesting to see the numbers a couple times.
>>>
>>> Now that I can select by focal length in LR, it's fun to see the 
>>> distribution for my 16-50.  Clearly the most-popular is "as wide as 
>>> possible" followed by "full zoom" but after that it seems to be an even 
>>> distribution...
>>>
>>> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/16_50_focal_lengths_used.jpg
>>>
>>>  -Charles
>>>
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Re: OT: Black Hawk down on bikes

[steve harley]

On 2010-06-22 12:08 , mike wilson wrote:

Bob W wrote:


Stupidity:



"...the only paved street..."

Doesn't that speak volumes?


not if you take it in context: " the only paved street ... connecting 
the Peak to Peak Highway with the Central City Parkway."


most of Black Hawk's few streets are paved, but only one of them goes to 
Central City; this is significant because it is a connector between two 
highways that are commonly used by bicyclists riding in the mountains


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Re: LR3 and focal-length metadata - interesting

[eckinator]

2010/6/22 Toine :
>
> Yes that makes a lot of sense. I can now present the hard evidence LBA
> isn't between the ears and I really need more glass since most shots
> are at 12 and 300 mm. Only problem is Pentax doesn't provide relief in
> this range. :)

Pentax, listen!
Thanks to Adobe the PDML has yet something new to gripe about and it
is backed by solid scientific evidence.
We need a 500 to 5 mm tele to wide zoom prime. And it had better been
fast, too... Oh and light, of course =)

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Peso - Clone

[P N Stenquist]

Another pic from Gingerman Raceway.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11165304&size=lg

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Re: LR3 and focal-length metadata - interesting

[Adam Maas]

Noticed this was how I was working long ago. It's one reason why I
somewhat prefer primes, they're usually smaller and lighter and I use
my zooms like 2 primes anyway.s

-Adam

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Toine  wrote:
> Checked this on my zooms 12-24 16-45 18-250 55-300. most shots at the
> borders and rest very little use and evenly distributed. Makes me
> wonder why I use 4 zooms...
>
> Toine
>
> On 22 June 2010 19:59, Charles Robinson  wrote:
>> In the past I've seen external software which could analyze your Lightroom 
>> catalog and tell you what focal length I use most.  Too much of a pain, but 
>> interesting to see the numbers a couple times.
>>
>> Now that I can select by focal length in LR, it's fun to see the 
>> distribution for my 16-50.  Clearly the most-popular is "as wide as 
>> possible" followed by "full zoom" but after that it seems to be an even 
>> distribution...
>>
>> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/16_50_focal_lengths_used.jpg
>>
>>  -Charles
>>
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Re: PESO -- [Black] Bird on a Wire

[Toine]

Nice shot and a very strange bird (for my eyes).

Toine

On 22 June 2010 02:44, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> A minor crop, (to improve the composition just a bit), of a shot of a Red
> Wing Black Bird.
>
> 
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OT - The Enduring Power of Polaroid

[Tom C]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/us_and_canada/10355526.stm

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Re: PESO - For Dave Brooks

[David J Brooks]

Very nice. The girls position is good and you caught the legs in a
good spot. To bad the horse is jumping a bit to the right, (knees are
not quite even) but that happens a lot.

Dave

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Christian Skofteland
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> Last weekend I took my daughters to the Upperville (Virginia) Horse and Colt 
> Show.  This is my favorite shot of the day:
> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bNuA-oAASYY/TB7OH8WeYMI/Af4/PO3rXli31GA/s1600/jumper_IMG_5647web.jpg
>
> From this set:
> http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2010/06/uperville-horse-and.html
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PESO -- "Gypsy Mermaid"

[P. J. Alling]

Anybody who looked at Precision Motor Cars will recognize the subject.  
From a different angle.  Just for the record, I visited the web site, 
and I still can't figure out exactly what this is all about.


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20gypsymermaid.html

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Re: LR3 and focal-length metadata - interesting

[Charles Robinson]

On Jun 22, 2010, at 13:37, Adam Maas wrote:

> Noticed this was how I was working long ago. It's one reason why I
> somewhat prefer primes, they're usually smaller and lighter and I use
> my zooms like 2 primes anyway.s
> 
> -Adam
> 
> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Toine  wrote:
>> Checked this on my zooms 12-24 16-45 18-250 55-300. most shots at the
>> borders and rest very little use and evenly distributed. Makes me
>> wonder why I use 4 zooms...

Next what we need is to show the distribution of focal lengths over time.  Then 
you could decide if the different focal length usages are far enough apart that 
you'd have been able to swap the lenses out to cover it, or if a zoom was more 
up your alley.

Me - I'll stick with the zooms for general use until my budget gets a lot 
larger!

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Re: LR3 and focal-length metadata - interesting

[David Parsons]

I looked at all the focal lengths the I've used with my K100DS, and
it's interesting to see where the focal length 'bumps' are without
filtering by lens.  It is fairly even along the range from 10-300,
with some dips at here and there.  I mainly use my 16-45, 55-300, and
10-20.  I can see where the ends of the zooms are, but I'm pretty
liberal about switching lenses while shooting, so it's not surprising
that there is a fairly even distribution.

It was interesting to see that in the 16-45 range, the 28mm I just got
is one of the more frequent lengths.  :)

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Charles Robinson  wrote:
> On Jun 22, 2010, at 13:37, Adam Maas wrote:
>
>> Noticed this was how I was working long ago. It's one reason why I
>> somewhat prefer primes, they're usually smaller and lighter and I use
>> my zooms like 2 primes anyway.s
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Toine  wrote:
>>> Checked this on my zooms 12-24 16-45 18-250 55-300. most shots at the
>>> borders and rest very little use and evenly distributed. Makes me
>>> wonder why I use 4 zooms...
>
> Next what we need is to show the distribution of focal lengths over time.  
> Then you could decide if the different focal length usages are far enough 
> apart that you'd have been able to swap the lenses out to cover it, or if a 
> zoom was more up your alley.
>
> Me - I'll stick with the zooms for general use until my budget gets a lot 
> larger!
>
>  -Charles
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Re: Peso - Clone

[Bruce Dayton]

Nice lookin' car and shot.  You make these look so perfect - like
anyone could stand there and snap the shot.  Of course, having tried
this, I know very differently.

Good work!

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Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 1:58:25 PM, you wrote:

PNS> Another pic from Gingerman Raceway.
PNS> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11165304&size=lg




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Re: PESO -- "Gypsy Mermaid"

[Jack Davis]

Its appearance probably resembles the mind of the owner.  strange!!

Jack

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> From: P. J. Alling 
> Subject: PESO -- "Gypsy Mermaid"
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 2:30 PM
> Anybody who looked at Precision Motor
> Cars will recognize the subject.  From a different
> angle.  Just for the record, I visited the web site,
> and I still can't figure out exactly what this is all
> about.
> 
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20gypsymermaid.html
> 
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> f3.8~5.6
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PESO - Vista

[Bruce Dayton]

Jack has invited all who can to get to see Yosemite with the water
running high.  I ended up having a very quick opportunity yesterday
to get down there to and visit my brother and his family who were
camping there.  The park is about 3 1/2 to 4 hours to get there from
my house.  So we left at 5am and drove down.  Had a wonderful,
whirlwind day there and left about 9:45 pm to get home about 1:30am.
A very long day, but still very worth it.

So here come some shots.  Who says you can't use a telephoto in this
amazing park!

Pentax K-x, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @ 220mm
ISO 1600, 1/4000 sec @ f/11

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/imgp6420.htm

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PESO - Peek into the Valley

[Bruce Dayton]

View of the entrance to Yosemite Valley - the Merced River is winding
along and you can see Bridal Veil Falls in the distance.

Pentax K-x, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 55mm
ISO 1600, 1/2500 sec @ f/10

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/imgp6421-1.htm

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Re: Peso - Clone

[paul stenquist]

On Jun 22, 2010, at 6:26 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

> Nice lookin' car and shot.  You make these look so perfect - like
> anyone could stand there and snap the shot.  Of course, having tried
> this, I know very differently.
> 
> Good work!
> 

Thanks Bruce. Much appreciated.

Paul


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> 
> Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 1:58:25 PM, you wrote:
> 
> PNS> Another pic from Gingerman Raceway.
> PNS> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11165304&size=lg
> 
> 
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Re: PESO - For Dave Brooks

[Christian Skofteland]

Wow, Thanks, Bob.  No it isn't my daughter.  My yougest daughter is desperate 
to learn to ride now that we live in Virginia horse country.  Lessons are 
forthcoming.

I really like the look in the rider's eyes contrasted with the look in the 
horse's eyes.  Both focused but on different things.  I certainly hope i take 
better shots! :) (I know what you mean, and thanks).

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> Christian,
> That's a wonderful shot.
> I love the concentration on the girl's face and the look of the eyes.
> Plus herbody position is very dymanic, floating above the animal.
> The horse is in a great pose too, with fore legs just above the bar,
> and his gaze in the foreground vs her's onto the next jump.
> I doubt you'll take a better shot, hope it's your daughter!
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Christian Skofteland
>  wrote:
> > Last weekend I took my daughters to the Upperville (Virginia) Horse and 
> > Colt Show.  This is my favorite shot of the day:
> > http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bNuA-oAASYY/TB7OH8WeYMI/Af4/PO3rXli31GA/s1600/jumper_IMG_5647web.jpg
> >
> > From this set:
> > http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2010/06/uperville-horse-and.html
> >
> > Comments always apprciated
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Re: PESO - For Dave Brooks

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Thanks, Dave and Bruce for looking and commenting.

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Re: PESO - Vista

[Bob Sullivan]

Good stuff Bruce, and a day well spent.  Love that shot up the river valley.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Bruce Dayton  wrote:
> Jack has invited all who can to get to see Yosemite with the water
> running high.  I ended up having a very quick opportunity yesterday
> to get down there to and visit my brother and his family who were
> camping there.  The park is about 3 1/2 to 4 hours to get there from
> my house.  So we left at 5am and drove down.  Had a wonderful,
> whirlwind day there and left about 9:45 pm to get home about 1:30am.
> A very long day, but still very worth it.
>
> So here come some shots.  Who says you can't use a telephoto in this
> amazing park!
>
> Pentax K-x, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @ 220mm
> ISO 1600, 1/4000 sec @ f/11
>
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/imgp6420.htm
>
> Comments welcome
>
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> Bruce
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Re: PESO - Vista

[Ann Sanfedele]

what a very nice group, bruce...
and a wandered on by to your older shots finding much stuff to admire 
I'd missed before...


OF the Yosemite shtos I like the first the best... but the one with that 
strange advancing cloud was really nice as well


ann

Bruce Dayton wrote:


Jack has invited all who can to get to see Yosemite with the water
running high.  I ended up having a very quick opportunity yesterday
to get down there to and visit my brother and his family who were
camping there.  The park is about 3 1/2 to 4 hours to get there from
my house.  So we left at 5am and drove down.  Had a wonderful,
whirlwind day there and left about 9:45 pm to get home about 1:30am.
A very long day, but still very worth it.

So here come some shots.  Who says you can't use a telephoto in this
amazing park!

Pentax K-x, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @ 220mm
ISO 1600, 1/4000 sec @ f/11

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/imgp6420.htm

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Re: PESO - Vista

[Daniel J. Matyola]

A Wonderful portfolio of Yosemite images!  First class work.

Dan

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> what a very nice group, bruce...
> and a wandered on by to your older shots finding much stuff to admire I'd
> missed before...
>
> OF the Yosemite shtos I like the first the best... but the one with that
> strange advancing cloud was really nice as well
>
> ann
>
> Bruce Dayton wrote:
>
>> Jack has invited all who can to get to see Yosemite with the water
>> running high.  I ended up having a very quick opportunity yesterday
>> to get down there to and visit my brother and his family who were
>> camping there.  The park is about 3 1/2 to 4 hours to get there from
>> my house.  So we left at 5am and drove down.  Had a wonderful,
>> whirlwind day there and left about 9:45 pm to get home about 1:30am.
>> A very long day, but still very worth it.
>>
>> So here come some shots.  Who says you can't use a telephoto in this
>> amazing park!
>>
>> Pentax K-x, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @ 220mm
>> ISO 1600, 1/4000 sec @ f/11
>>
>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/imgp6420.htm
>>
>> Comments welcome
>>
>>
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RE: PESO - Vista

[Bruce Dayton]

Thanks for looking and commenting.

-Original Message-
From: Bob Sullivan 
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 5:13 PM
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Good stuff Bruce, and a day well spent.  Love that shot up the river valley
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RE: PESO - Vista

[Bruce Dayton]

It is always interesting to get opinions.  My wife didn't like the first shot, 
nor anything with clouds.  I appreciate your looking and commenting.

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Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 5:47 PM
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Subject: Re: PESO - Vista

what a very nice group, bruce...
and a wandered on by to your older shots finding much stuff to admire 
I'd missed before...

OF the Yosemite shtos I like the first the best... but the one with that 
strange advancing cloud was really nice as well

ann

Bruce Dayton wrote:

>Jack has invited all who can to get to see Yosemite with the water
>running high.  I ended up having a very quick opportunity yesterday



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RE: PESO - Vista

[Bruce Dayton]

Dan thanks for looking.  I know Yosemite has been photographed to death, but I 
hope these shots are a bit less typical.

-Original Message-
From: Daniel J. Matyola 
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 5:51 PM
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Subject: Re: PESO - Vista

A Wonderful portfolio of Yosemite images!  First class work.

Dan

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> what a very nice group, bruce...
> and a wandered on by to your older shots finding much stuff to admire I'd
> missed before...
>
> OF the Yosemite shtos I like the first the best... but the one with that
> strange advancing cloud was really nice as well
>
> ann
>
> Bruce Dayton wrote:
>
>> Jack has invited all who can to get to see Yosemite with the water
>> running high.  I ended up having a very quick opportunity yesterday
>> to get down there to and visit my brother and his family who were
>> camping there.  The park is about 3 1/2 to 4 hours to get there from
>> my house.  So we left

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Re: PESO - Vista

[paul stenquist]

A unique perspective. Nice work.
Paul

On Jun 22, 2010, at 8:13 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

> Good stuff Bruce, and a day well spent.  Love that shot up the river valley.
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Bruce Dayton  
> wrote:
>> Jack has invited all who can to get to see Yosemite with the water
>> running high.  I ended up having a very quick opportunity yesterday
>> to get down there to and visit my brother and his family who were
>> camping there.  The park is about 3 1/2 to 4 hours to get there from
>> my house.  So we left at 5am and drove down.  Had a wonderful,
>> whirlwind day there and left about 9:45 pm to get home about 1:30am.
>> A very long day, but still very worth it.
>> 
>> So here come some shots.  Who says you can't use a telephoto in this
>> amazing park!
>> 
>> Pentax K-x, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @ 220mm
>> ISO 1600, 1/4000 sec @ f/11
>> 
>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/imgp6420.htm
>> 
>> Comments welcome
>> 
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>> Bruce
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Re: PESO - Vista

[paul stenquist]

I only saw the first one initially. Now I've seen them all, and I think the 
stream in the center of the canyon is my favorite. But a lot of nice work here.
paul
On Jun 22, 2010, at 9:01 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

> It is always interesting to get opinions.  My wife didn't like the first 
> shot, nor anything with clouds.  I appreciate your looking and commenting.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ann Sanfedele 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 5:47 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: PESO - Vista
> 
> what a very nice group, bruce...
> and a wandered on by to your older shots finding much stuff to admire 
> I'd missed before...
> 
> OF the Yosemite shtos I like the first the best... but the one with that 
> strange advancing cloud was really nice as well
> 
> ann
> 
> Bruce Dayton wrote:
> 
>> Jack has invited all who can to get to see Yosemite with the water
>> running high.  I ended up having a very quick opportunity yesterday
> 
> 
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GESO - Yosemite

[Bruce Dayton]

I've never been a big fan of GESO's, simply because there is so much
to see at once, but since everyone has been viewing all the Yosemite
shots, we might as well go that direction.

So here is the beginning of the GESO - just click 'Next' to view
through the rest of them.

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Re: PESO - Vista

[Bruce Dayton]

Thanks for your comments, Paul.

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Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 6:07:47 PM, you wrote:

ps> A unique perspective. Nice work.
ps> Paul

ps> On Jun 22, 2010, at 8:13 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

>> Good stuff Bruce, and a day well spent.  Love that shot up the river valley.
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>> 
>> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Bruce Dayton  
>> wrote:
>>> Jack has invited all who can to get to see Yosemite with the water
>>> running high.  I ended up having a very quick opportunity yesterday
>>> to get down there to and visit my brother and his family who were
>>> camping there.  The park is about 3 1/2 to 4 hours to get there from
>>> my house.  So we left at 5am and drove down.  Had a wonderful,
>>> whirlwind day there and left about 9:45 pm to get home about 1:30am.
>>> A very long day, but still very worth it.
>>> 
>>> So here come some shots.  Who says you can't use a telephoto in this
>>> amazing park!
>>> 
>>> Pentax K-x, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @ 220mm
>>> ISO 1600, 1/4000 sec @ f/11
>>> 
>>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/imgp6420.htm
>>> 
>>> Comments welcome
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Bruce
>>> 
>>> 
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Some OT - Question about paper trimmers

[Igor Roshchin]

I am back to choosing the paper trimmer.
A while back (last year), John Sessoms recommended Dahle paper trimmers.
(altough Red River no longer sells those).

I would need to cut papers that are up to 13"-wide. (13"x19").

So, I was deciding between
http://www.machinerunner.com/Catalog/Rotary-Trimmers/Dahle-14-25-Professional-Rotary-Trimmer
- model 550, and model 508:

http://www.machinerunner.com/Catalog/Rotary-Trimmers/Dahle-18-Personal-Rotary-Trimmer

I suspect that Dahle 370 - is not suitable - it can cut only up to 3
sheets - but that I suspect is the regular paper, - so for photo paper
it won't work.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/558282-REG/Dahle_370_Model_370_Card_Maker.html

Any other suggestions/recommendations? (brands, what to look for, where
to buy)?

For those people who use paper trimmers, - how often do you use/find
usefl the "opposing paper guide":
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/304540-REG/Dahle_550_550_Professional_Rolling_Trimmer.html


Thank you,

Igor

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Re: Some OT - Question about paper trimmers

[paul stenquist]

On Jun 22, 2010, at 10:06 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

> 
> 
> I am back to choosing the paper trimmer.
> A while back (last year), John Sessoms recommended Dahle paper trimmers.
> (altough Red River no longer sells those).
> 
> I would need to cut papers that are up to 13"-wide. (13"x19").

I use a box cutter with a very sharp blade, a t-square and a mat-room scaled 
cutting board. Fast, accurate and flexible. 
Paul

> 
> So, I was deciding between
> http://www.machinerunner.com/Catalog/Rotary-Trimmers/Dahle-14-25-Professional-Rotary-Trimmer
> - model 550, and model 508:
> 
> http://www.machinerunner.com/Catalog/Rotary-Trimmers/Dahle-18-Personal-Rotary-Trimmer
> 
> I suspect that Dahle 370 - is not suitable - it can cut only up to 3
> sheets - but that I suspect is the regular paper, - so for photo paper
> it won't work.
> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/558282-REG/Dahle_370_Model_370_Card_Maker.html
> 
> Any other suggestions/recommendations? (brands, what to look for, where
> to buy)?
> 
> For those people who use paper trimmers, - how often do you use/find
> usefl the "opposing paper guide":
> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/304540-REG/Dahle_550_550_Professional_Rolling_Trimmer.html
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Igor
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Re: PESO - Vista

[Jack Davis]

The shot works great, Bruce. Not ideal conditions, but the elements assembled 
in such a way as to produce a powerful image.

Jack

--- On Tue, 6/22/10, Bruce Dayton  wrote:

> From: Bruce Dayton 
> Subject: PESO - Vista
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 3:55 PM
> Jack has invited all who can to get
> to see Yosemite with the water
> running high.  I ended up having a very quick
> opportunity yesterday
> to get down there to and visit my brother and his family
> who were
> camping there.  The park is about 3 1/2 to 4 hours to
> get there from
> my house.  So we left at 5am and drove down.  Had
> a wonderful,
> whirlwind day there and left about 9:45 pm to get home
> about 1:30am.
> A very long day, but still very worth it.
> 
> So here come some shots.  Who says you can't use a
> telephoto in this
> amazing park!
> 
> Pentax K-x, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @ 220mm
> ISO 1600, 1/4000 sec @ f/11
> 
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/imgp6420.htm
> 
> Comments welcome
> 
> -- 
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> Bruce
> 
> 
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Re: PESO - Peek into the Valley

[Jack Davis]

I've never had the pleasure of seeing this particular shot. Nicely done, Bruce!

Jack

--- On Tue, 6/22/10, Bruce Dayton  wrote:

> From: Bruce Dayton 
> Subject: PESO - Peek into the Valley
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 4:14 PM
> View of the entrance to Yosemite
> Valley - the Merced River is winding
> along and you can see Bridal Veil Falls in the distance.
> 
> Pentax K-x, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 55mm
> ISO 1600, 1/2500 sec @ f/10
> 
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/imgp6421-1.htm
> 
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> 
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> 
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Re: PESO - Peek into the Valley

[Jack Davis]

Returned to this link and took a look at the full set. Very nice collection! 
All beautifully composed. 
You certainly did make great use of the long glass especially under the 
pressure of such limited time.

Jack

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> Subject: PESO - Peek into the Valley
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> Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 4:14 PM
> View of the entrance to Yosemite
> Valley - the Merced River is winding
> along and you can see Bridal Veil Falls in the distance.
> 
> Pentax K-x, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 55mm
> ISO 1600, 1/2500 sec @ f/10
> 
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/imgp6421-1.htm
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Re: PESO - cowboy

[Christine Aguila]

Excellent!  I have a similar shot on film taken, gosh, over 20 years ago, 
though I have more than one hat in the chutes.  I traveled with a 
bull-riding rodeo cousin, and learned a lot about cowboys that summer. 
Wonderful picture, Doug.  Really excellent.  Cheers, Christine




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http://dougbrewer.posterous.com/cowboy-215

enjoy

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Re: peso - bathing

[Christine Aguila]

I agree with everyone.  Water drops make the shot!  Cheers, Christine


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The "crispness" of the bird and the drops is really good.  Or maybe I
just like crispy duck ;-)

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wrote:

Pretty cool how you have caught the water droplets - makes the shot.

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Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 7:38:35 AM, you wrote:

SS> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4723826732/

SS> That's with 60/250

SS> Comments are very welcome.

SS> --Sasha




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Re: Peso - Clone

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Paul:  Truth be told, car shots don't interest me that much, but, gosh, 
your shots of cars are great!  You really do them well, and this one I 
especially like.  Cheers, Christine



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Another pic from Gingerman Raceway.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11165304&size=lg

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Re: PESO - For Dave Brooks

[Christine Aguila]

Very nice, Christian.  Cheers, Christine


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Subject: PESO - For Dave Brooks


Last weekend I took my daughters to the Upperville (Virginia) Horse and 
Colt Show.  This is my favorite shot of the day:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bNuA-oAASYY/TB7OH8WeYMI/Af4/PO3rXli31GA/s1600/jumper_IMG_5647web.jpg

From this set:
http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2010/06/uperville-horse-and.html

Comments always apprciated

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http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com


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