Re: understanding sensitivity, dynamic range, contrast etc.

2011-04-12 Thread Dario Bonazza

Larry Colen wrote:


On Apr 11, 2011, at 1:32 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote:

The simple answer about extended bracketing with the K-5: Read 
instruction manual (page 160). It's all there.


For me, extended bracketing is nearly useless:

When extended bracketing is set, the file format is set to [JPEG] and 
cannot be changed. You cannot use Extended Bracketing when the file format 
is set to RAW


If I was willing to shoot in JPEG, I wouldn't care enough about my photos 
to bracket.


All this thread subset about bracketing other than exposure is pointless 
then. Shoot RAW, take good care of exposure (bracket in extreme conditions) 
and you're done.


Dario 



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Re: Lines, shapes and colors...

2011-04-12 Thread Bulent Celasun
Larry,

Thank you for your comment.
My original idea while shooting was to reach a BW.
However, the colors seemed too nice to be discarded.
You may consider the below one better as it was shot with another
light source (LED) close to the camera:
http://www.fotopya.com.tr/Photo.aspx?memberPhotoID=80460Photoname=ISIMSIZ
Here the contrast between the colors might work better, I think.

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Re: mini-geso - Alex

2011-04-12 Thread Sasha Sobol
Added another photo to the set:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5612588484/in/photostream/lightbox

--S

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com wrote:
 Thanks Boris, brutal and honest - is exactly what I need.
 --S

 On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 4/12/2011 03:07, Sasha Sobol wrote:

 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/sobol/sets/72157626354271149/
 or
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/sets/72157626354271149/detail/

 or links to individual photos:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5609217398/in/set-72157626354271149/lightbox

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5609184676/in/set-72157626354271149/lightbox

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5609123412/in/set-72157626354271149/lightbox

 Please tell me what you think.

 --Sasha


 Sasha, I am thinking that if you cropped the second image similarly (in
 geometric sense) to the first one, the continuity between the two would be
 stronger and they would really work as a pair. As it is, the second image
 strikes me as the weakest link.

 In the third image, I am thinking that including the tattoo on her left hand
 in its entirety would add the intrigue or conflict between her looks and
 whatever is engraved in her skin. Yet I think this is the strongest image of
 the series.

 And the first image - it surely works, but it almost begs for continuation
 whereas the second image is unfinished and thus spoils the viewer's fun a
 little.

 All in all - you did great but please bear with my remarks nonetheless.

 Boris trying to be brutally honest and politely constructive.

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Re: Tilt-shift lenses or adaptors

2011-04-12 Thread Thibouille
I didn't think about those.
Can they really replace a proper T/S lens ?


2011/4/5 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com:
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 2011/4/5 Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com:
 I'm looking into getting a T/S lens.
 I don't care much if not Pentax or if I need an adaptor. However I
 care about price.
 Those things are usually very pricey.

 I might even accept a Canon lens, if it is what I need to get
 Tilt/shift. I know Pentax only did a Shift but no tilt.

 If anybody has an 'affordable' way of doing this, please speak ;)

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RE: PESO: They Call him a Cooper's Hawk

2011-04-12 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Jeffery Johnson
 
 Here is a picture of the Hawk:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/5611564067/in/photostream
 

very nice shot, must have been a great experience to see it.

 I also spotted this fella along the Richland Creek Greenway.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/5612141024/in/photostream
 

I support all calls to cull that particular species and to return their vile
habitat to nature.

B


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Re: mini-geso - Alex

2011-04-12 Thread Larry Colen

On Apr 11, 2011, at 5:07 PM, Sasha Sobol wrote:

 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/sobol/sets/72157626354271149/
 or
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/sets/72157626354271149/detail/

Is this the daughter that did the grubby street urchin set a short while ago? 
 

She looks much better cleaned up.


 
 or links to individual photos:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5609217398/in/set-72157626354271149/lightbox

I like the first one.  Almost atomic age steampunk. Is that what they call 
dieselpunk?  

The unconventional lighting works well.  I'm guessing two lights, one from each 
side, with front fill just reflecting off the wall behind you?
My hunch is that a different color background would work better, but I don't 
have the perfect suggestion.  The sea-foam green that they used to paint 
government offices in, back in the mid sixties might work well with the 
atomic-age feeling. 


 http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5609184676/in/set-72157626354271149/lightbox

The black and white processing and the horror-flick front light from below 
accentuate the atomic era vibe even more.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5609123412/in/set-72157626354271149/lightbox

I can't find any real technical flaws with the blond wig shot, but it doesn't 
work for me nearly as well.  It comes off almost at 80's rockstar, but the tank 
top and tat don't quite feed into that trope.


I think that the fourth one, which you added later, would be stronger if you 
cropped out the light on the right edge of the frame.
 
 Please tell me what you think.

Overall, the set is technically flawless.  Alex could do quite well in 
modeling. Were the outfits her ideas?


 
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Re: Where's Bruce Dayton

2011-04-12 Thread David Mann
On Apr 12, 2011, at 7:41 AM, Rick Womer wrote:

 He's alive, well, preoccupied with earning a living, and enjoying his new K5.

Earning is overrated.

Dave


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Re: GESO: fantail

2011-04-12 Thread David Mann
On Apr 12, 2011, at 3:24 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

 I forget what RTF stands for.
 
 Retractable TTL-Auto Flash.

I just love nested abbreviations :)  They should have made it recursive.

Dave


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RE: Tilt-shift lenses or adaptors

2011-04-12 Thread Krisjanis Linkevics
 Thibouille
 
 I didn't think about those.
 Can they really replace a proper T/S lens ?

A couple days ago I sent this little gallery of a T/S lens I made - no 
real-real-life shots yet (damn weather, work):
http://foto.ri-ki.lv/categories.php?cat_id=6

I wouldn't think a real lensbaby could replace a T/S lens because even their 
best lens is sharp only in the center. At least for me it is way too 
expensive for what it provides. Also depends on the precision you need for your 
adjustments.

kris



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Re: Lines, shapes and colors...

2011-04-12 Thread Larry Colen

On Apr 11, 2011, at 11:34 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote:

 Larry,
 
 Thank you for your comment.
 My original idea while shooting was to reach a BW.
 However, the colors seemed too nice to be discarded.
 You may consider the below one better as it was shot with another
 light source (LED) close to the camera:
 http://www.fotopya.com.tr/Photo.aspx?memberPhotoID=80460Photoname=ISIMSIZ
 Here the contrast between the colors might work better, I think.

I like this one a lot better.  

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Re: Boris PESO 08 - Have a sit

2011-04-12 Thread Sasha Sobol
Boris, this is better.
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On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 11:39 AM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
 On 2011-04-11 01:08 , Boris Liberman wrote:

 Following yours and others suggestions here is the second version:

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2011/04/peso-081-have-sit.html

 I wonder if I understood your correctly, guys, and processed it in the
 right direction.

 that's a good move in the direction of what i was thinking; i think there
 are a lot of possibilities to explore with the scene, such as enhancing the
 subtle spiral effect or making the negative forms more sensual; but for
 working with the one original photo i think that's a real improvement

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Re: GESO: Roller Derby

2011-04-12 Thread Bruce Walker

On 11-04-12 1:20 AM, Phil Northeast wrote:

Took the K-5 and DA*50-135  along to a local fledgling roller derby bout.

Shot in TA/V mode as the K-5 has lots of headroom for ISO. The 
Continuous AF worked well on the action shots


http://aviewfinderdarkly.com.au/2011/04/11/south-island-sirens-vs-van-diemen-rollers/ 



I think the world could use more roller derby. :)  Fun shots, Phil.

-bmw

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645D: flash and manual focus lenses

2011-04-12 Thread AlunFoto
To those interested in technical stuff about 645D, I've looked at how
flash metering is implemented in 645D.

As most of you probably know, the K-mount cameras no longer support
the old-style TTL flashes. The last camera to do so was the *istDS2.
Now it's only P-TTL that works. And only with AF lenses. With manual
focus lenses you have no TTL flash metering at all.

I was worried that this might be the case for 645D too, but
fortunately P-TTL works with the 645A-series lenses too. If you can
live with inconsistencies in automatic white balance. A minor nit, in
my opinion.

Full-length meanderings here:
http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/04/645d-part-3.html

Jostein

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Re: 645D: flash and manual focus lenses

2011-04-12 Thread SV Hovland
Copied from page 187 in the K-5 manual: 
http://album.heime.org/album/temporary/pttl.jpg

Stig Vidar Hovland


Fra: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] p#229; vegne av AlunFoto 
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Emne: 645D: flash and manual focus lenses

To those interested in technical stuff about 645D, I've looked at how
flash metering is implemented in 645D.

As most of you probably know, the K-mount cameras no longer support
the old-style TTL flashes. The last camera to do so was the *istDS2.
Now it's only P-TTL that works. And only with AF lenses. With manual
focus lenses you have no TTL flash metering at all.

I was worried that this might be the case for 645D too, but
fortunately P-TTL works with the 645A-series lenses too. If you can
live with inconsistencies in automatic white balance. A minor nit, in
my opinion.

Full-length meanderings here:
http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/04/645d-part-3.html

Jostein

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Re: understanding sensitivity, dynamic range, contrast etc.

2011-04-12 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Apr 12, 2011, at 2:09 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:

 Larry Colen wrote:
 
 On Apr 11, 2011, at 1:32 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote:
 
 The simple answer about extended bracketing with the K-5: Read instruction 
 manual (page 160). It's all there.
 
 For me, extended bracketing is nearly useless:
 
 When extended bracketing is set, the file format is set to [JPEG] and cannot 
 be changed. You cannot use Extended Bracketing when the file format is set 
 to RAW
 
 If I was willing to shoot in JPEG, I wouldn't care enough about my photos to 
 bracket.
 
 All this thread subset about bracketing other than exposure is pointless 
 then. Shoot RAW, take good care of exposure (bracket in extreme conditions) 
 and you're done.
 
Exactly right. With RAW, it's rarely necessary to bracket even exposure, let 
alone other factors. When shooting film, I always bracketed my car shoots 
extensively. Now I check the histogram now and then and shoot at one exposure. 
If I'm off by a 1/4 stop, it matters not.
Paul


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Re: GESO: Roller Derby

2011-04-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
Fun stuff, well recorded here.
Paul

On Apr 12, 2011, at 1:20 AM, Phil Northeast wrote:

 Took the K-5 and DA*50-135  along to a local fledgling roller derby bout.
 
 Shot in TA/V mode as the K-5 has lots of headroom for ISO. The Continuous AF 
 worked well on the action shots
 
 http://aviewfinderdarkly.com.au/2011/04/11/south-island-sirens-vs-van-diemen-rollers/
 
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Re: 645D: flash and manual focus lenses

2011-04-12 Thread Boris Liberman

On 4/12/2011 13:14, AlunFoto wrote:

To those interested in technical stuff about 645D, I've looked at how
flash metering is implemented in 645D.

As most of you probably know, the K-mount cameras no longer support
the old-style TTL flashes. The last camera to do so was the *istDS2.
Now it's only P-TTL that works. And only with AF lenses. With manual
focus lenses you have no TTL flash metering at all.

I was worried that this might be the case for 645D too, but
fortunately P-TTL works with the 645A-series lenses too. If you can
live with inconsistencies in automatic white balance. A minor nit, in
my opinion.

Full-length meanderings here:
http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/04/645d-part-3.html

Jostein


Fascinating. I should point out that I am not using a P-TTL flash (I 
just wrote a longish message to Collin on the matter). I have noticed 
that sometimes the white balance of my flash shots is somewhat imprecise 
(which is a gentler term than incorrect). But then almost always it is 
fairly easy to correct in post.


My immediate reaction to the diagram in your blog entry, Jostein, was a 
sense of deja vu from the minor adjustments that I have to do in my 
workflow.


I don't have readily made measurements or tests, but I tend to think 
that these variations may be related to one another and actually be 
related to some basic tech that Pentax is using in their PRIME (II) 
engine. After all, 645D and K-7(K-5) seem to have similar if not equal 
(up to state of tune) image processors.


Boris


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Re: 645D: flash and manual focus lenses

2011-04-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
Hi Jostein,
P-TTL works with my K-5 when using the manual focus A400/5.6. The same was true 
with my K10, K20, and K-7. However, P-TTL doesn't work with my K lenses. I 
think autoexposure is the key here.
Paul


On Apr 12, 2011, at 6:14 AM, AlunFoto wrote:

 To those interested in technical stuff about 645D, I've looked at how
 flash metering is implemented in 645D.
 
 As most of you probably know, the K-mount cameras no longer support
 the old-style TTL flashes. The last camera to do so was the *istDS2.
 Now it's only P-TTL that works. And only with AF lenses. With manual
 focus lenses you have no TTL flash metering at all.
 
 I was worried that this might be the case for 645D too, but
 fortunately P-TTL works with the 645A-series lenses too. If you can
 live with inconsistencies in automatic white balance. A minor nit, in
 my opinion.
 
 Full-length meanderings here:
 http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/04/645d-part-3.html
 
 Jostein
 
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Re: 645D: flash and manual focus lenses

2011-04-12 Thread Boris Liberman

On 4/12/2011 13:49, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Hi Jostein, P-TTL works with my K-5 when using the manual focus
A400/5.6. The same was true with my K10, K20, and K-7. However, P-TTL
doesn't work with my K lenses. I think autoexposure is the key here.
Paul


Paul, can it be that with A-lenses P-TTL works in reduced functionality 
mode? I am asking because it is my understanding that P-TTL uses 
distance to object (reported by AF lenses) for its processing.


Boris

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Re: PESO: Poppy and Sun

2011-04-12 Thread Jack Davis
Channeling Bruce would be my good fortune, ;)
Thanks for generous comment, Bob.

Jack

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 Subject: Re: PESO: Poppy and Sun
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, April 11, 2011, 8:49 PM
 Jack,
 You channeling Bruce now?
 Good photo.
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Jeffery Johnson
 jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net
 wrote:
  Very nice against the blue
 
  ___
  Pictures that I have taken on Flickr:
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/
 
 
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 On Behalf Of Jack
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  Subject: PESO: Poppy and Sun
 
  Forgive the creative spelling.(?)
 
  Comments?
 
  Jack
 
  http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=587
 
  K-5, DA 16~45@20mm, 1/1600, ISO 800, laying on the
 ground in a neighborhood
  park.
 
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Re: GESO: Roller Derby

2011-04-12 Thread Jack Davis
Nice set, Phil! Looks like the K-5 acquitted it's self very well.

Jack

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 Took the K-5 and DA*50-135 
 along to a local fledgling roller derby bout.
 
 Shot in TA/V mode as the K-5 has lots of headroom for ISO.
 The Continuous AF worked well on the action shots
 
 http://aviewfinderdarkly.com.au/2011/04/11/south-island-sirens-vs-van-diemen-rollers/
 
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Re: 645D: flash and manual focus lenses

2011-04-12 Thread AlunFoto
If the K-5 has reintroduced support for P-TTL with A-series lenses,
that's great news. I know from experience that the K-7 does not give
P-TTL with A*200/4 macro. I tried both the AF540FGZ and the AF160FC
ring flash.

2011/4/12 SV Hovland pdml...@heime.org:
 Copied from page 187 in the K-5 manual: 
 http://album.heime.org/album/temporary/pttl.jpg

 Stig Vidar Hovland

 
 Fra: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] p#229; vegne av AlunFoto 
 [alunf...@gmail.com]
 Sendt: 12. april 2011 12:14
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 Emne: 645D: flash and manual focus lenses

 To those interested in technical stuff about 645D, I've looked at how
 flash metering is implemented in 645D.

 As most of you probably know, the K-mount cameras no longer support
 the old-style TTL flashes. The last camera to do so was the *istDS2.
 Now it's only P-TTL that works. And only with AF lenses. With manual
 focus lenses you have no TTL flash metering at all.

 I was worried that this might be the case for 645D too, but
 fortunately P-TTL works with the 645A-series lenses too. If you can
 live with inconsistencies in automatic white balance. A minor nit, in
 my opinion.

 Full-length meanderings here:
 http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/04/645d-part-3.html

 Jostein

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Re: peso - flower

2011-04-12 Thread Bob Sullivan
Sasha,
It's a tulip - for sure!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 12:25 AM, Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com wrote:
 Thanks to everyone.
 And, I am really bad in identifying flowers and trees.
 Here is another photo of the same flower:
 http://flickr.com/gp/sobol/7L3Y1a

 --Sasha

 On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 It could be an Oriental Poppy ??? but looks like a wide open tulip to me
 ,too.

 Sasha, do you have other photos that show more of the flower in its
 surroindings for ID/

 ann

 Sasha Sobol wrote:

 Thanks everyone.
 Larry, I am not sure but I think it is a tulip.
 It is big and red.
 Not California poppy for sure.

 --S

 On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 Sasha,
 You took it two steps further than my photo here.
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10919767
 I didn't hve the vision to push it as far as you did.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:


 On Apr 10, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Sasha Sobol wrote:



 http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5603835081/lightbox
 or if you prefer flickriver:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/sobol/5603835081

 Please tell me what you think.


 Nice variation on the standard poppy shot, focusing on the subtle
 details in the petal rather than the stamens/pistils (I don't know which) 
 in
 the center.  It does look a lot redder than the standard California golden
 poppy, is that from the flower, or your processing?



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Re: Really Red

2011-04-12 Thread Steven Desjardins
Two things:

1. This was taken with a Pentax lens on an Olympus E-PL1.  Penatx
bodies typically do less sharpening.
2.  It looks better, but what is AB?

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:
 Doing an AB on the untouched vs the image originally presented makes 90% of 
 the edge line go away. But it is still there. Might just be the best the 
 Pentax in camera firmware with a sharp transition from red to green. Can you 
 view it full sized and untouched and see what's happening at the pixel level?

 I zoomed in as far as I could on the petal untouched, and actually see a 
 ringing on the edge, as in an audio ringing but as an image. Very 
 interesting. I'm sending a copy to Steve.


 On Apr 11, 2011, at 01:04 , Steven Desjardins wrote:

 Here it is simply reduced in size:

 http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/15174580_NVzVH#1247710481_yspUL-L-LB

 I'm too used to Pentax. I always reduce and sharpen a bit since it's
 set pretty low on most Pentax bodies.


 On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 1:04 AM, Christine  Aguila
 cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Hi Steve:  Can we see what the shot looks like before desaturation?  There's
 a green outline around the petals--especially around the petal center-left.
 Cheers, Christine


 - Original Message - From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com
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 Subject: Peso: Really Red


 I took these shots this morning with the E-PL1 and my old m42 super
 Takumar 55 f2.


 http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/15174580_NVzVH#1247354829_4u7Td-L-LB

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Re: GESO: Roller Derby

2011-04-12 Thread Boris Liberman

On 4/12/2011 08:20, Phil Northeast wrote:

Took the K-5 and DA*50-135 along to a local fledgling roller derby bout.

Shot in TA/V mode as the K-5 has lots of headroom for ISO. The
Continuous AF worked well on the action shots

http://aviewfinderdarkly.com.au/2011/04/11/south-island-sirens-vs-van-diemen-rollers/


Is this sport the same as short track speed skating but on roller blades?

Boris


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Re: GESO: Roller Derby

2011-04-12 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2011-04-12 8:33, Boris Liberman wrote:


Is this sport the same as short track speed skating but on roller blades?


Mix in a little (American) football and you've about got it. :-)

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Re: GESO: Roller Derby

2011-04-12 Thread Boris Liberman

On 4/12/2011 15:35, Doug Franklin wrote:

On 2011-04-12 8:33, Boris Liberman wrote:


Is this sport the same as short track speed skating but on roller blades?


Mix in a little (American) football and you've about got it. :-)


Roger that.

BTW you and I are having off-list conversation and I am thinking it is 
your turn now...


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Re: GESO: Roller Derby

2011-04-12 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2011-04-12 8:43, Boris Liberman wrote:


BTW you and I are having off-list conversation and I am thinking it is
your turn now...


Oh, crap, I'm sorry!  I thought it was your turn.  I'll dig through my 
mail folders and see if I can figure out where your last one went.


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Re: Tilt-shift lenses or adaptors

2011-04-12 Thread Peter Zalabai
Lensbabies are selective focus and not tilt/shift.

My solution for tilt/shift photography are:
solution 1 - freelensing: 
if you don't mind being a bit on the wild side. My best freelensing lens
is a Tamron Adaptall-2 f2.5 24mm without any adaptor, so I can put the
lens a bit closer to the 'film' pane allowing me to focus to infinity. I
recommend the use of a tripod with this setting as the last thing you
want is to hold the lens in one hand, the camera in the other and
somehow try to fire the shutter. LOL
A sample for my free-lensing:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/4421716087/ (it was made with Nikon
D70s... please excuse my blasphemy! :D)

solution 2 - Hartblei Tilt (or shift) adapter for Pentacon 6 lenses
this setup is the easiest to use. You take an old PSix lens, like the
Carl Zeiss Flektogon f4 50mm and attach to your camera with a Tilt
adaptor. Since the PSix lenses are designed to make pictures on a 6x6 cm
'sensor' if you use them on an APSC (or even a 35mm film) then only the
middle of the 'image-circle' will be used, which is the best quality for
all lenses. Also the advantage is you don't really need to shift these
lenses to compensate the 'slide' of the 'image-circle' as you have a
loads of areas to work with.
The limitation of this system is the wide angle. As 50mm on 6x6 is
already wide angle (35mm is fisheye :D) you can't really find lenses
wider than 50mm (you can find some 35-40mm ones... for a bit too high
price). But in the other hand you can get some seriously good lenses :D
for a bargain with good picture quality, my favourite is being the Carl
Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8 which is IMHO the best portrait lens ever made
if you like to draganize your pictures as it's disturbingly sharp at
f2.8 :D (I just love this lens... sorry!) And also a one hour photoshoot
with this lens and you don't need to go to gym for a while :D
A sample with the 80mm f2.8 Biometar:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/2953220154/

So my advise:
Go for the Hartblei adaptor with a cheap Carl Zeiss Biometar 80mm f2.8
(it's smaller and cheaper, easier to use in the beginning) or a Carl
Zeiss Flektogon 50mm f4. You will get an easy to use tilt lens without
the need of shifting the lens. Also the Biometar is good to use for
portraits.
Also get a Tamron Adaptall-2 f2.5 24mm (I have the 01BB version) and try
freelensing. If you are interested in macro then get a 55mm reverse
adapter as well as this lens is one of my main extreme-macro lens as
well. 
A recent sample for it's macro capabilities. The image is not a crop,
actually I had to extend it a bit (about 10-15% on the left and bottom)
for better composition. Keep in mind that the spider is about 2-3mm in
total.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/5609939029/

Some Ebay links for you:
The PSix - PK tilt adaptor:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hartblei-Tilt-Adapter-Pentacon-Six-Lens-Pentax-/170548600701?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item27b57d1f7d#ht_722wt_1141

The Flektogon 50mm f4:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Zeiss-FLEKTOGON-50mm-F4-Pentacon-Six-Canon-EOS-Nikon-/150589386498?pt=UK_Photography_VintagePhotography_VintagePhotoAccessorieshash=item230fd3af02#ht_6048wt_1141

The Biometar 80mm f2.8:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CARL-ZEISS-Jena-BIOMETAR-MC-80mm-f-2-8-80-/370490133352?pt=Camera_Lenseshash=item5642eecb68
as this one was the 'kit-lens' for the PSix camera I recommend looking
for one with the camera as well... usually you can get it for cheap and
hey, you get a MF camera as well!

The Tamron 24mm f2.5:
This one has 3 versions... I have the latest 01BB one.
This is the previous version 01B:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tamron-24mm-f2-5-lens-exc-adaptall-mount-choice-/390262438991?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3hash=item5add743c4f#ht_2575wt_1141
And this is the oldest version (notice the old tamron logo... my
logo/signo is based on this :D)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TAMRON-24mm-f2-5-Lens-NIKON-FE-FM-FE2-D90-D80-ETC-/170531874417?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3hash=item27b47de671#ht_1706wt_907


Hope it helps and let us see your tilt photos soon! :D

Regards,
.timber

Ps.: Back to Pentax with a white Pentax K-r! :D


On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 09:12 +0200, Thibouille wrote:
 I didn't think about those.
 Can they really replace a proper T/S lens ?
 
 
 2011/4/5 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com:
  Lensbabies?
 
  2011/4/5 Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com:
  I'm looking into getting a T/S lens.
  I don't care much if not Pentax or if I need an adaptor. However I
  care about price.
  Those things are usually very pricey.
 
  I might even accept a Canon lens, if it is what I need to get
  Tilt/shift. I know Pentax only did a Shift but no tilt.
 
  If anybody has an 'affordable' way of doing this, please speak ;)
 
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Re: GESO: when two worlds meet...

2011-04-12 Thread Boris Liberman

On 4/12/2011 06:26, Subash wrote:

the photos (apologies if the photos are 17 too many):
https://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/Chennai#

i was of course the only pentax shooter. welcome your comments,
critique and contributions to a k-3... :)


Very nice set of images, Subash. Personally, I like such kind of 
photography very much - it is live and it is telling of places that I 
haven't visited or may not visit at all.


Thanks for sharing!

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Re: Tilt-shift lenses or adaptors

2011-04-12 Thread eckinator
The Zörkendörfer MFS (Multi Focus System) might do the trick for you -
it is basically a tilt convertor for enlarger lenses (other lenses can
also be adapted but the default is M39 screwmount). They show up on
eBay from time to time. Expect to pay 150-250 w/o a lens. Zörk also
builds a shift adaptor to go with it. Problem with all aftermarket t/s
conversions is that you can't really shoot wide angles.
HTH Ecke
BTW you can borrow my Novoflex t/s bellows if you can afford to
replace/repair it should it come to that.

2011/4/5 Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com:
 I'm looking into getting a T/S lens.
 I don't care much if not Pentax or if I need an adaptor. However I
 care about price.
 Those things are usually very pricey.

 I might even accept a Canon lens, if it is what I need to get
 Tilt/shift. I know Pentax only did a Shift but no tilt.

 If anybody has an 'affordable' way of doing this, please speak ;)

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Re: GESO: Roller Derby

2011-04-12 Thread Boris Liberman

On 4/12/2011 15:53, Doug Franklin wrote:

On 2011-04-12 8:43, Boris Liberman wrote:


BTW you and I are having off-list conversation and I am thinking it is
your turn now...


Oh, crap, I'm sorry! I thought it was your turn. I'll dig through my
mail folders and see if I can figure out where your last one went.


Darn. Looked and found it. It is my turn. I owe you a drink and a reply now.

Boris



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PDML Book is live online and available for purchase

2011-04-12 Thread Mark Roberts
Cut to the chase: http://www.blurb.com/my/book/detail/2098910
;-)

Bonuses:
If you order today and enter the code GMA (must be all upper-case
letters) in the discount code box during checkout you'll get a 25%
discount! 

If you buy the hardcover with dust jacket version of the book (not
the ImageWrap) you get bonus photos on the inner flaps of the dust
jacket, one by Rick Womer and one by Carl Gjersem.

More information:
I want to express my appreciation to all who donated to the book
promotional fund. Most people contributed $5.00 and we got $340.00
total. With the 10% volume discount and the 25% GMA discount (yes,
Blurb allowed both discounts) I was able to order a dozen books for
the price of 10, including shipping costs. I think there's even a bit
left over in the kitty to allow me postage money for sending *out*
review copies when I get them.

I'm looking for suggestions/ideas for promotion. Print magazine
reviews are pretty much out of the question: They already get more
review samples than they have time for and we'd be just an tiny fish
in a big sea (unless we can get someone on the inside to help - anyone
owed any favors by low people in high places?)

I'm also offering the ebook version on line for $6.00 through my own
web site at the moment. I've worked out a deal to offer it through the
Apple iTunes store through one of their official distributors, but I
won't be able to finish the paperwork and details until the end of the
semester - things are getting busy now.
See http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/

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What was your first camera?

2011-04-12 Thread Bill Owens
In my case, it was a Brownie Hawkeye with flash that used Press 25 bulbs

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Re: Re: PESO - A Long time Coming...

2011-04-12 Thread Mitch Conant

 Ann:

I used to go to Vegas for a yearly networking (computer) trade show. The 
last 3 years that I went, I went on the Friday before the show. Arrived 
and went to Utah for the weekend. I stumbled on Zion the first year 
(without my cameras) but turned those weekends into photo excursions for 
the last 2. Hence, I haven't been to everything I want to see 
(Canyonlands and Arches).


What's Capitol Reef all about? As I recall, it didn't capture my 
imagination when I heard about it all those years ago ...


Mitch


On 1:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
I have a slew of 'em myself...   We might have passed each other on a 
trail here and there :-)


You didn't meniotn Canyonlands or Arches -- was that just for the sake 
of brevity?


ann

Mitchell Conant wrote:


 Ann:

Thanks for the input. I had SAMs Club convert a couple hundred slides 
that I shot in the early 90's; with my ME  MX. This was one of them. 
I'm planning to post these as GESO(s). I have photos from Zion, 
Bryce, Cedar Breaks, Kodachrome Basin and Rocky Mountain N.P.


You are right ... southern Utah is one of my FAVORITE places!

Mitch



On 1:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

I particularly like the Zion shot... wonderful BW conversion...   
and - well hell, it's one of my favorite places.



The other two are certainly well done, but don't say much to me... 
too much just like an exercise in technique.


ann

Mitchell Conant wrote:

 Tried sending this last night but it never was posted to the list. 
Let's try it again...


After a long, cold winter of working on my photo album webpage and 
associated management utilities; I have a bunch of stuff from 2010 
and 2011 to post. In the near future I hope to post a couple of 
GESOs and more PESOs.


For now, here are 3 PESOs that didn't fit into any galleries, I 
guess they are just photos in my photo shoebox...


http://www.mme-ia.net/cgi/pdml/pdml-peso-index.php?urlyear=2011urlphotos=20110064,20110066,20110068 
http://www.mme-ia.net/cgi/pdml/pdml-peso-index.php?urlyear=2011urlphotos=20110064,20110066,20110068 



As usual (it goes without saying) feedback and comments would be 
appreciated.


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Re: What was your first camera?

2011-04-12 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
I'm going to skip the box cameras from my childhood.
They were given to me and my parents were quite generous
with the cost of film and developing.

The first camera that was mine, that I bought for myself,
was c. 1978, a Canon G-III QL17.  A wonderful camera.

Sincerely, 

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GESO Neuengamme Concentration Camp Memorial

2011-04-12 Thread Thomas Bohn
I visited the Neuengamme Concentration Camp Memorial last weekend.
Most of the captions are still only in German, sorry about that.

http://thomsgeso.blogspot.com/2011/04/kz-gedenkstatte-neuengamme.html
K-m, DA 35 f/2.4

Feedback is always welcome.

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Re: understanding sensitivity, dynamic range, contrast etc.

2011-04-12 Thread William Robb

On 12/04/2011 12:09 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:





All this thread subset about bracketing other than exposure is pointless
then. Shoot RAW, take good care of exposure (bracket in extreme
conditions) and you're done.


Measure the brightest part of the scene that you want to keep detail in. 
Measure the darkest part of the scene that you want to keep detail in.
Remember to account for colour failure of the measurement device if 
applicable.

With the K5, is that number less than 14 stops?
If yes, take the picture using an exposure that keeps what you want more 
or less centered in the histogram.
Most of the time, this is the way it is, because most of the time, 
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Re: What was your first camera?

2011-04-12 Thread William Robb

On 12/04/2011 7:32 AM, Bill Owens wrote:

In my case, it was a Brownie Hawkeye with flash that used Press 25 bulbs



Fujica ML 35. It is within arms reach of me right now.

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Re: PDML Book is live online and available for purchase

2011-04-12 Thread Brian Walters
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 09:18 -0400, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com
wrote:
 Cut to the chase: http://www.blurb.com/my/book/detail/2098910
 ;-)



Done!  Ordered the hard cover with dust jacket.

The GMA code doesn't seem to work outside the USA.  When I tried I got
two error messages:

* Sorry, this promotion cannot be be applied to books you did not
author.
* Sorry, the promotion code you entered isn't available in your selected
currency. Make sure you've selected the right currency.

So I changed the currency to $US, which got rid of the second message
but I was still stuck with the first.

No matter!  Looking forward to its arrival.

Cheers

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 Bonuses:
 If you order today and enter the code GMA (must be all upper-case
 letters) in the discount code box during checkout you'll get a 25%
 discount! 
 
 If you buy the hardcover with dust jacket version of the book (not
 the ImageWrap) you get bonus photos on the inner flaps of the dust
 jacket, one by Rick Womer and one by Carl Gjersem.
 
 More information:
 I want to express my appreciation to all who donated to the book
 promotional fund. Most people contributed $5.00 and we got $340.00
 total. With the 10% volume discount and the 25% GMA discount (yes,
 Blurb allowed both discounts) I was able to order a dozen books for
 the price of 10, including shipping costs. I think there's even a bit
 left over in the kitty to allow me postage money for sending *out*
 review copies when I get them.
 
 I'm looking for suggestions/ideas for promotion. Print magazine
 reviews are pretty much out of the question: They already get more
 review samples than they have time for and we'd be just an tiny fish
 in a big sea (unless we can get someone on the inside to help - anyone
 owed any favors by low people in high places?)
 
 I'm also offering the ebook version on line for $6.00 through my own
 web site at the moment. I've worked out a deal to offer it through the
 Apple iTunes store through one of their official distributors, but I
 won't be able to finish the paperwork and details until the end of the
 semester - things are getting busy now.
 See http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/
 
 Have at it!
 
  
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Re: PDML Book is live online and available for purchase

2011-04-12 Thread Tim Øsleby
Plugged at Facebook. Twisting my mind for other realistic options.

BTW, is there a list somewhere, saying what pictures that are _in_?

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2011/4/12 Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com:
 Cut to the chase: http://www.blurb.com/my/book/detail/2098910
 ;-)

 Bonuses:
 If you order today and enter the code GMA (must be all upper-case
 letters) in the discount code box during checkout you'll get a 25%
 discount!

 If you buy the hardcover with dust jacket version of the book (not
 the ImageWrap) you get bonus photos on the inner flaps of the dust
 jacket, one by Rick Womer and one by Carl Gjersem.

 More information:
 I want to express my appreciation to all who donated to the book
 promotional fund. Most people contributed $5.00 and we got $340.00
 total. With the 10% volume discount and the 25% GMA discount (yes,
 Blurb allowed both discounts) I was able to order a dozen books for
 the price of 10, including shipping costs. I think there's even a bit
 left over in the kitty to allow me postage money for sending *out*
 review copies when I get them.

 I'm looking for suggestions/ideas for promotion. Print magazine
 reviews are pretty much out of the question: They already get more
 review samples than they have time for and we'd be just an tiny fish
 in a big sea (unless we can get someone on the inside to help - anyone
 owed any favors by low people in high places?)

 I'm also offering the ebook version on line for $6.00 through my own
 web site at the moment. I've worked out a deal to offer it through the
 Apple iTunes store through one of their official distributors, but I
 won't be able to finish the paperwork and details until the end of the
 semester - things are getting busy now.
 See http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/

 Have at it!


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Re: PDML Book is live online and available for purchase

2011-04-12 Thread Mark Roberts
Brian Walters wrote:

On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 09:18 -0400, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com
wrote:
 Cut to the chase: http://www.blurb.com/my/book/detail/2098910
 ;-)

Done!  Ordered the hard cover with dust jacket.

The GMA code doesn't seem to work outside the USA.

That's disappointing but not surprising, I suppose. GMA stands for
Good Morning America a morning television program over here.

 
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Re: What was your first camera?

2011-04-12 Thread Brian Walters
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 09:32 -0400, Bill Owens wmbow...@gmail.com
wrote:
 In my case, it was a Brownie Hawkeye with flash that used Press 25 bulbs



A Voigtlander rangefinder or viewfinder - but I can't recall the model. 
That one was given to me.  The first one I paid for was a second hand
Pentax S1a.


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PESO: Pink and Blue

2011-04-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=mainwebtag=djm1963entry=78

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Re: PDML Book is live online and available for purchase

2011-04-12 Thread Mark Roberts
More bad news: David Parsons informs me that the GMA discount only
applies to books you've authored. 
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Re: What was your first camera?

2011-04-12 Thread Thomas Bohn
2011/4/12 Bill Owens wmbow...@gmail.com:

 In my case, it was a Brownie Hawkeye with flash that used Press 25 bulbs

The first camera I used was a compact camera which I can't remember
the name of. My first own camera was a Canon Ixus 430 years later.

When I was young I wanted an SLR camera but I never got one.

Thomas

P.S. I couldn't even get the Minolta 303 of my father's, because you
couldn't get new batteries for the camera.

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Re: PDML Book is live online and available for purchase

2011-04-12 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 More bad news: David Parsons informs me that the GMA discount only
 applies to books you've authored.
 Looks like the PDML at large can't get this deal. :(

I just tried the code and received that message.

Oh well, order is placed with April 20 delivery date. Lets see just
how long it WILL be.:-)

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Re: What was your first camera?

2011-04-12 Thread David J Brooks
Mine was a hand me down from Dad in or around 1965 or 1966. it was a
Kodak box camera, model does not come to mind.

My first I own it camera was an SP500 bought new in 1971.

Dave

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 In my case, it was a Brownie Hawkeye with flash that used Press 25 bulbs

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Re: What was your first camera?

2011-04-12 Thread David J Brooks
How come no one ever asks what was the second camera we owned.:-)

Dave

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 Mine was a hand me down from Dad in or around 1965 or 1966. it was a
 Kodak box camera, model does not come to mind.

 My first I own it camera was an SP500 bought new in 1971.

 Dave

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 In my case, it was a Brownie Hawkeye with flash that used Press 25 bulbs

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Re: PDML Book is live online and available for purchase

2011-04-12 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:

 More bad news: David Parsons informs me that the GMA discount only
 applies to books you've authored.
 Looks like the PDML at large can't get this deal. :(

I'm in for two imagewraps. My $45 Groupon code from the other day
worked, but that's no longer available to anyone who didn't buy in at
the Groupon site a couple of days ago.

The following codes SHOULD still work, on purchases of 2 or more books
through April 27. I wasn't able to test them, because they didn't
combine with my Groupon code.

USD $ coupon: BLURBMOM
GBP £ coupon: BLURBMOM1
EUR € coupon: BLURBMOM2
CAD $ coupon: BLURBMOM3
AUD $ coupon: BLURBMOM4

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Re: PESO: Pink and Blue

2011-04-12 Thread David J Brooks
Interesting colour to the clouds.

Nice

Dave

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Re: What was your first camera?

2011-04-12 Thread Bill Owens
Okay, what was the second one you owned?

Bill

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:54 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 How come no one ever asks what was the second camera we owned.:-)

 Dave

 On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:53 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mine was a hand me down from Dad in or around 1965 or 1966. it was a
 Kodak box camera, model does not come to mind.

 My first I own it camera was an SP500 bought new in 1971.

 Dave

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 In my case, it was a Brownie Hawkeye with flash that used Press 25 bulbs

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Re: PDML Book is live online and available for purchase

2011-04-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
The GMA code didn't work for me either.  It says:  Sorry, this
promotion cannot be be applied to books you did not author.

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 Brian Walters wrote:

On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 09:18 -0400, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com
wrote:
 Cut to the chase: http://www.blurb.com/my/book/detail/2098910
 ;-)

Done!  Ordered the hard cover with dust jacket.

The GMA code doesn't seem to work outside the USA.

 That's disappointing but not surprising, I suppose. GMA stands for
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Re: GESO Neuengamme Concentration Camp Memorial

2011-04-12 Thread David J Brooks
Some very nice pictures there.

Dave

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Thomas Bohn thb...@gmail.com wrote:
 I visited the Neuengamme Concentration Camp Memorial last weekend.
 Most of the captions are still only in German, sorry about that.

 http://thomsgeso.blogspot.com/2011/04/kz-gedenkstatte-neuengamme.html
 K-m, DA 35 f/2.4

 Feedback is always welcome.

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Re: What was your first camera?

2011-04-12 Thread Eric Featherstone
Boots Beirette BL, a re-branded East German camera

http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Boots_Beirette_BL

I /might/ even still have it somewhere.


On 12 April 2011 14:54, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 How come no one ever asks what was the second camera we owned.:-)

 Dave

 On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:53 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mine was a hand me down from Dad in or around 1965 or 1966. it was a
 Kodak box camera, model does not come to mind.

 My first I own it camera was an SP500 bought new in 1971.

 Dave

 On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Bill Owens wmbow...@gmail.com wrote:
 In my case, it was a Brownie Hawkeye with flash that used Press 25 bulbs

 Bill

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Re: What was your first camera?

2011-04-12 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Bill Owens wmbow...@gmail.com wrote:
 Okay, what was the second one you owned?

 Bill

LOL, K1000

Dave

 On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:54 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 How come no one ever asks what was the second camera we owned.:-)

 Dave

 On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:53 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mine was a hand me down from Dad in or around 1965 or 1966. it was a
 Kodak box camera, model does not come to mind.

 My first I own it camera was an SP500 bought new in 1971.

 Dave

 On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Bill Owens wmbow...@gmail.com wrote:
 In my case, it was a Brownie Hawkeye with flash that used Press 25 bulbs

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Re: GESO: Roller Derby

2011-04-12 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 5:17 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 11-04-12 1:20 AM, Phil Northeast wrote:

 Took the K-5 and DA*50-135  along to a local fledgling roller derby bout.

 Shot in TA/V mode as the K-5 has lots of headroom for ISO. The Continuous
 AF worked well on the action shots


 http://aviewfinderdarkly.com.au/2011/04/11/south-island-sirens-vs-van-diemen-rollers/

 I think the world could use more roller derby. :)  Fun shots, Phil.

No, more cow bell.

Nice shots there Phil.

Dave

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Re: PDML Book is live online and available for purchase

2011-04-12 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote:

 BTW, is there a list somewhere, saying what pictures that are _in_?

I bet you can get a list for the low, low price of $6. The price of
instant gratification. :-)

I lucked out, and my photograph is in the Blurb preview.

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Re: What was your first camera?

2011-04-12 Thread Charles Robinson
On Apr 12, 2011, at 8:32, Bill Owens wrote:

 In my case, it was a Brownie Hawkeye with flash that used Press 25 bulbs
 

I believe mine was a Canonet rangefinder - a Christmas gift in 1979.  About a 
half-year later, I found a wallet full of money (and no ID) during my morning 
paper route and after turning it into the police and having it not be claimed, 
I was able to buy my Pentax K-1000.

I have NO idea what happened to the Canonet - wish I still had it!  The K-1000 
stuck with me until I upgraded to a SuperProgram in 1984.   Which got stolen a 
year later.  Then I got an ME-Super (which I liked much better) and that was my 
camera until I bought my ist-DS right when it was released.

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Re: GESO: when two worlds meet...

2011-04-12 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks for sharing, well done.

Dave

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 11:26 PM, Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi,

 some photos from a photowalk in my city from last sunday. but a
 background story first. we've had an active flickr group that does
 photowalks for about four five years now. this time it was slightly
 different because aspiring reporters/journalists were also invited to
 come for the walk and submit articles on whatever took their fancy
 which would later be compiled as an online journal...

 some notes about gear. have long wanted to take just one prime for
 thesephotowalks so tried it this time. took the k50/1.2 attached to
 the1.7 af tc so in effect i had a 85mm/f2 semi af lens. used green
 button with the programme dial in manual mode but forgot to reset the
 ISO which had been set at 1600 previously. :(

 the photos (apologies if the photos are 17 too many):
 https://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/Chennai#

 i was of course the only pentax shooter. welcome your comments,
 critique and contributions to a k-3... :)

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Re: PESO: Poppy and Sun

2011-04-12 Thread David J Brooks
Very nice

Dave

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 Forgive the creative spelling.(?)

 Comments?

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 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=587

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Is somebody selling 77/1.8?

2011-04-12 Thread Igor Roshchin

I was just wondering if it is somebody from the PDML who is
selling a 77/1.8.
If yes, - please send me an e-mail off the list.

Thank you,

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Re: PDML Book is live online and available for purchase

2011-04-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Mine as well.  G

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On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote:

 BTW, is there a list somewhere, saying what pictures that are _in_?

 I bet you can get a list for the low, low price of $6. The price of
 instant gratification. :-)

 I lucked out, and my photograph is in the Blurb preview.

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Re: PESO: They Call him a Cooper's Hawk

2011-04-12 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Jeffery Johnson
jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 Here is a picture of the Hawk:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/5611564067/in/photostream

Nicely done. Lighting is great.

 I also spotted this fella along the Richland Creek Greenway.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/5612141024/in/photostream

Poor fella, should be put out of his misery.:-)

Dave

 Have a good evening or morning depending on what part of the world you are
 located.

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Re: PDML Book is live online and available for purchase

2011-04-12 Thread Mark Roberts
Tim Øsleby wrote:

Plugged at Facebook. Twisting my mind for other realistic options.

BTW, is there a list somewhere, saying what pictures that are _in_?

I'll put up a page with that information soon. Gotta go to school now.
 
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Re: What was your first camera?

2011-04-12 Thread Jack Davis
Kodak Baby Brownie. Bought new in the early 40's by my parents. Probably cost 
all of $3.00.
Took it to school (against my parent's advice) and, sure enough, it got stolen. 
Last I ever saw of it. Still feel the pain. :((

Jack

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 Subject: What was your first camera?
 To: pdml pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2011, 6:32 AM
 In my case, it was a Brownie Hawkeye
 with flash that used Press 25 bulbs
 
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Re: PESO: They Call him a Cooper's Hawk

2011-04-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Golf is not a sport;  it is a disease.

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 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Jeffery Johnson

 Here is a picture of the Hawk:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/5611564067/in/photostream


 very nice shot, must have been a great experience to see it.

 I also spotted this fella along the Richland Creek Greenway.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/5612141024/in/photostream


 I support all calls to cull that particular species and to return their vile
 habitat to nature.

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Re: PESO: Pink and Blue

2011-04-12 Thread Jack Davis
Nice, Dan!

Jack

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 Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2011, 6:46 AM
 http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=mainwebtag=djm1963entry=78
 
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Re: What was your first camera?

2011-04-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
After a Brownie like yours, I bought a Polaroid.  Then, in 1966, my
beloved Asahi Spotmatic.

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 In my case, it was a Brownie Hawkeye with flash that used Press 25 bulbs

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Re: PESO: Poppy and Sun

2011-04-12 Thread Jack Davis
Big Thanks, Dave!

Jack

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 Subject: Re: PESO: Poppy and Sun
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2011, 7:05 AM
 Very nice
 
 Dave
 
 On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Forgive the creative spelling.(?)
 
  Comments?
 
  Jack
 
  http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=587
 
  K-5, DA 16~45@20mm, 1/1600, ISO 800, laying on the
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Re: What was your first camera?

2011-04-12 Thread Tim Øsleby
My first was a folding camera, I think it was 645, but I can't recall
the brand.
My first 135 was a Arette 1a http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Arette

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2011/4/12 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com:
 Kodak Baby Brownie. Bought new in the early 40's by my parents. Probably 
 cost all of $3.00.
 Took it to school (against my parent's advice) and, sure enough, it got 
 stolen. Last I ever saw of it. Still feel the pain. :((

 Jack

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 Subject: What was your first camera?
 To: pdml pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2011, 6:32 AM
 In my case, it was a Brownie Hawkeye
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RE: What was your first camera?

2011-04-12 Thread J.C. O'Connell
minolta himatic f

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Subject: Re: What was your first camera?


On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 09:32 -0400, Bill Owens wmbow...@gmail.com
wrote:
 In my case, it was a Brownie Hawkeye with flash that used Press 25 
 bulbs



A Voigtlander rangefinder or viewfinder - but I can't recall the model. 
That one was given to me.  The first one I paid for was a second hand Pentax
S1a.


Cheers

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Re: What was your first camera?

2011-04-12 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
The first camera that my parents bought 'for me' was a Werlisa. Infinity focus 
and three positions: sunny, cloudy, flash.
(I founs some pictures here: 
http://www.ojodigital.com/foro/fotografia-quimica/265873-articulo-camara-werlisa-led.html)



The first camera bought by me, back in 1997, was a Cosina E1 solar, an 
all-manual SLR with the meter powered by solar energy (like some calculators) 
whose K mount led me to Pentax.
(I found some pictures here: http://www.dirapon.be/cosina.html)

Regards,
Jaume



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 In my case, it was a Brownie Hawkeye with flash that used Press 25  bulbs
 
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Re: GESO Neuengamme Concentration Camp Memorial

2011-04-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is a wonderful album:  moving, informative and well well captured
and pictured.

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On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Thomas Bohn thb...@gmail.com wrote:
 I visited the Neuengamme Concentration Camp Memorial last weekend.
 Most of the captions are still only in German, sorry about that.

 http://thomsgeso.blogspot.com/2011/04/kz-gedenkstatte-neuengamme.html
 K-m, DA 35 f/2.4

 Feedback is always welcome.

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RE: What was your first camera?

2011-04-12 Thread SV Hovland
My first one was an Instamatic like this one: 
http://www.nwmangum.com/Kodak/I36-1.html

But the first I bought for myself was a Practica B200: 
http://praktica-users.com/cams/bfirst/b200.html  a terrible camera which was 
replaced by a Pentax one year later.

SV

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Brendemuehl
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 3:37 PM
To: pdml
Subject: Re: What was your first camera?

I'm going to skip the box cameras from my childhood.
They were given to me and my parents were quite generous with the cost of film 
and developing.

The first camera that was mine, that I bought for myself, was c. 1978, a Canon 
G-III QL17.  A wonderful camera.

Sincerely, 

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PESO 2011 - 055 - GDG

2011-04-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Another new Communicating photo is available for viewing: 

  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5612545254/lightbox/
or
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5612545254/

Thanks for looking!
Comments always appreciated. :-)

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Re: PESO: Pink and Blue

2011-04-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, David and Jack.

I know that there is nothing more cliched than a tropical sunset, but
I was looking for an abstract to add to my Pentax portfolio, and to my
surprise, they took this one rather quickly.

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On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:58 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Interesting colour to the clouds.

 Nice

 Dave

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 http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=mainwebtag=djm1963entry=78

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Re: What was your first camera?

2011-04-12 Thread Paul Stenquist

My first camera was a small square box camera that took 610 film. It had three 
f stops and a fixed focus and shutter speed. I don't remember the brand, but I 
know that I bought it for $2 at Erler's Camera Store on 83rd Street and Stony 
Island Ave. in Chicago in 1958. I was ten years old. In April of that year, i 
took a picture of my sister, Sylvia, twirling in front of our house at 8222 
Dorchester. I think the film was Verichrome Pan. Cash Erler, who owned the 
store, developed the film and made me some 4 x 4 prints. I still have some of 
them, including the picture of my sister. Her's a scan of it that I made a few 
years back:

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Re: PDML Book is live online and available for purchase

2011-04-12 Thread Ann Sanfedele

3 questions --
for the e book, can I pay with paypal?
Is it  PDF?  Can I have it on my Windoze machine that runs XP?  
Where is the table of contents?  Is it in the preview and it's just so 
little I cant see it?


The Preview looks super!...

NOt sure how much help I can do in terms of promoting, but there will be 
a small
core of friends and fans I can usually rely on to shell out a few 
bucks... certainly, at least, for the e book.


Terrific job, Mark -- Especially handsome cover too.

ann

Mark Roberts wrote:


Cut to the chase: http://www.blurb.com/my/book/detail/2098910
;-)

Bonuses:
If you order today and enter the code GMA (must be all upper-case
letters) in the discount code box during checkout you'll get a 25%
discount! 


If you buy the hardcover with dust jacket version of the book (not
the ImageWrap) you get bonus photos on the inner flaps of the dust
jacket, one by Rick Womer and one by Carl Gjersem.

More information:
I want to express my appreciation to all who donated to the book
promotional fund. Most people contributed $5.00 and we got $340.00
total. With the 10% volume discount and the 25% GMA discount (yes,
Blurb allowed both discounts) I was able to order a dozen books for
the price of 10, including shipping costs. I think there's even a bit
left over in the kitty to allow me postage money for sending *out*
review copies when I get them.

I'm looking for suggestions/ideas for promotion. Print magazine
reviews are pretty much out of the question: They already get more
review samples than they have time for and we'd be just an tiny fish
in a big sea (unless we can get someone on the inside to help - anyone
owed any favors by low people in high places?)

I'm also offering the ebook version on line for $6.00 through my own
web site at the moment. I've worked out a deal to offer it through the
Apple iTunes store through one of their official distributors, but I
won't be able to finish the paperwork and details until the end of the
semester - things are getting busy now.
See http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/

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Re: PDML Book is live online and available for purchase

2011-04-12 Thread Tim Øsleby
http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2011/04/pdml-photo-annual-2011.html
Just a reminder for the rest of the footmen.

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Re: What was your first camera?

2011-04-12 Thread Tim Øsleby
Lovely photo.

The first pictures I remember making was of my light Labrador Peggy
and my sister Cathrine in the garden.
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2011/4/12 Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:

 My first camera was a small square box camera that took 610 film. It had 
 three f stops and a fixed focus and shutter speed. I don't remember the 
 brand, but I know that I bought it for $2 at Erler's Camera Store on 83rd 
 Street and Stony Island Ave. in Chicago in 1958. I was ten years old. In 
 April of that year, i took a picture of my sister, Sylvia, twirling in front 
 of our house at 8222 Dorchester. I think the film was Verichrome Pan. Cash 
 Erler, who owned the store, developed the film and made me some 4 x 4 prints. 
 I still have some of them, including the picture of my sister. Her's a scan 
 of it that I made a few years back:

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Re: PDML Book is live online and available for purchase

2011-04-12 Thread Stan Halpin
Note the following from my order confirmation:

 Thank you for your order. Please retain this email for reference.
 Please note that as of April 13, 2011 we'll be upgrading our standard white 
 end sheets to a higher quality mid-grey colored end sheet that's 30% thicker. 
 If you'd like to order more books with the current white end sheet please 
 place your order by April 11, 2011. Get more details in this blog post: 
 http://blog.blurb.com/index.php/2011/03/30/new-higher-quality-end-sheets-coming-soon-2

Don't know if I care one way or the other, but would have been nice to know 
there is an option of sorts. Oh well.

stan

On Apr 12, 2011, at 9:18 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 Cut to the chase: http://www.blurb.com/my/book/detail/2098910
 ;-)
 
 Bonuses:
 If you order today and enter the code GMA (must be all upper-case
 letters) in the discount code box during checkout you'll get a 25%
 discount! 
 
 If you buy the hardcover with dust jacket version of the book (not
 the ImageWrap) you get bonus photos on the inner flaps of the dust
 jacket, one by Rick Womer and one by Carl Gjersem.
 
 More information:
 I want to express my appreciation to all who donated to the book
 promotional fund. Most people contributed $5.00 and we got $340.00
 total. With the 10% volume discount and the 25% GMA discount (yes,
 Blurb allowed both discounts) I was able to order a dozen books for
 the price of 10, including shipping costs. I think there's even a bit
 left over in the kitty to allow me postage money for sending *out*
 review copies when I get them.
 
 I'm looking for suggestions/ideas for promotion. Print magazine
 reviews are pretty much out of the question: They already get more
 review samples than they have time for and we'd be just an tiny fish
 in a big sea (unless we can get someone on the inside to help - anyone
 owed any favors by low people in high places?)
 
 I'm also offering the ebook version on line for $6.00 through my own
 web site at the moment. I've worked out a deal to offer it through the
 Apple iTunes store through one of their official distributors, but I
 won't be able to finish the paperwork and details until the end of the
 semester - things are getting busy now.
 See http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/
 
 Have at it!
 
 
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 www.robertstech.com
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: What was your first camera?

2011-04-12 Thread Rick Womer
A Kodak Instamatic 100, when I was 11 or 12, for $13 (new).  That was a whole 
summer's lawn mowing income.

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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 From: Bill Owens wmbow...@gmail.com
 Subject: What was your first camera?
 To: pdml pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2011, 9:32 AM
 In my case, it was a Brownie Hawkeye
 with flash that used Press 25 bulbs
 
 Bill
 
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Re: PESO: Poppy and Sun

2011-04-12 Thread Rick Womer
It would be just another poppy photo if it weren't for the unopened bud in 
the background.  That's a very nice touch.

Rick

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 Subject: PESO: Poppy and Sun
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, April 11, 2011, 6:16 PM
 Forgive the creative spelling.(?)
 
 Comments?
 
 Jack
 
 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=587
 
 K-5, DA 16~45@20mm, 1/1600, ISO 800, laying on the ground
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Re: Lines, shapes and colors...

2011-04-12 Thread Rick Womer
Very nice.  What is that thing that looks like a bent teardrop?

Rick

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 Subject: Lines, shapes and colors...
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, April 10, 2011, 5:19 PM
 ... for an abstract feel.
 
 Smaller:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12938842
 
 Larger:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12938842size=lg
 
 Bulent
 
 -
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/
 http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun
 
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Re: Lines, shapes and colors...

2011-04-12 Thread Rick Womer

--- On Tue, 4/12/11, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
  You may consider the below one better as it was shot
 with another
  light source (LED) close to the camera:
  http://www.fotopya.com.tr/Photo.aspx?memberPhotoID=80460Photoname=ISIMSIZ
  Here the contrast between the colors might work
 better, I think.
 
 I like this one a lot better.  
 

I prefer the first one!  Nyah nyah na-nyah nyah!

Rick (regressing)


  

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Re: PDML Book is live online and available for purchase

2011-04-12 Thread Ann Sanfedele

me too - but -- I wouldn't have replied just for a me too except...
NOTE :   all I did was hit reply -- Dan had replied including something 
of another poster's (Matthew Hunt's) comment..
but  you will see that all that is below is Dan's comment, not Matthew's 
or any links.  

what is going on with that?  It can't be my settings, because if it were 
it would happen all the time, right?  


I think it might have something to do with G-mail   anyone???

ann

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


Mine as well.  G

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Re: What was your first camera?

2011-04-12 Thread Darren Addy
My first camera was purchased, on a whim, at a household auction and
paid for with paper route money. I must have been 11 or so.
It was a Kodak 828 Bantam exactly like this one:
http://www.shuttersniped.com/2011/03/14/vintage-kodak-bantam-folding-camera-nice-828-1938-exc/
This would have been around 1970, and 828 film was still available in
my hometown but only one place would order it... the downtown Rexall
Drug Store. Eventually they told me they couldn't get it anymore.

I wonder if it is still at the old homestead somewhere. I'd love to
find it and put it on a shelf.

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Re: What was your first camera?

2011-04-12 Thread Ann Sanfedele
I had a brownie as a teenager in the 1950's  - no real camera until 
mid 1960's  first one that was mine all mine was a Ricoh.. in

the mid 70's I got two KX's

ann

Jack Davis wrote:


Kodak Baby Brownie. Bought new in the early 40's by my parents. Probably cost 
all of $3.00.
Took it to school (against my parent's advice) and, sure enough, it got stolen. 
Last I ever saw of it. Still feel the pain. :((

Jack

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From: Bill Owens wmbow...@gmail.com
Subject: What was your first camera?
To: pdml pdml@pdml.net
Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2011, 6:32 AM
In my case, it was a Brownie Hawkeye
with flash that used Press 25 bulbs

Bill

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Re: PESO 2011 - 055 - GDG

2011-04-12 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Nice one, but I like even more the empty chair... which you may or may 
not have posted...

just seeing it now

ann

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Another new Communicating photo is available for viewing: 


 http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5612545254/lightbox/
or
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5612545254/

Thanks for looking!
Comments always appreciated. :-)

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Re: What was your first camera?

2011-04-12 Thread John Francis

First camera (and the only one my parents purchased): A Brownie 127.

That was when I was around 7.  Five years later I accquired a 35mm
from a schoolmate (which probably involved some parental funding).

This was a cheap-and-cheerful Hanimex-branded rangefinder, but it
was a reasonable camera; max aperture f/2.8, four shutter speeds,
and a built-in (but not coupled) meter.  I believe the model was
a Duomatic, but I'm not 100% certain.

That (an an Olympus Pen half-frame) saw me through college. Then
(with my first pay check from my first full-time job) I moved up
to a Spotmatic II with the magnificent f/1.4 lens.

Of course as soon as I had done this the Spotmatic-F came along
(with full-aperture metering), and the seeds of enablement were
sown.  I resisted for a while, but in 1976 I succumbed to the
temptation of an MX.  I've still got that camera; the last roll
of film I shot went through it (Royal Gold 25, in Yosemite).


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Re: PESO: Pink and Blue

2011-04-12 Thread Ann Sanfedele

You see ?  I didn't strip out anything...  it just happened :(

so I'm pasting the link back in here

http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=mainwebtag=djm1963entry=78


It's a gorgeous shot.. it isn't a cliche cliche -  not at all 
surprised they took it ...

It looks familiar on eof the votes may well have come from me :-)

ann

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


Thanks, David and Jack.

I know that there is nothing more cliched than a tropical sunset, but
I was looking for an abstract to add to my Pentax portfolio, and to my
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Gmail quoting (was: Re: PDML Book is live online and available for purchase)

2011-04-12 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

 me too - but -- I wouldn't have replied just for a me too except...
 NOTE :   all I did was hit reply -- Dan had replied including something of
 another poster's (Matthew Hunt's) comment..
 but  you will see that all that is below is Dan's comment, not Matthew's or
 any links.
 what is going on with that?  It can't be my settings, because if it were it
 would happen all the time, right?
 I think it might have something to do with G-mail   anyone???

I'm not sure what's causing that problem, because it doesn't happen
for me. If I reply to Dan's email in Gmail's web interface, it quotes
everything in his message, including the earlier quoted material from
me. I couldn't find anything obvious in Gmail's settings that might be
causing the problem.

Are you using the Gmail web interface, or a mail application?

One possibility: The material Dan quoted appears below his signature.
Some mail applications suppress quoting signatures (presumably
everything after the --).

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Re: PDML Book is live online and available for purchase

2011-04-12 Thread Mark Roberts
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 11:31:56 -0400, you wrote:

3 questions --
for the e book, can I pay with paypal?

Yes. In fact, that's the only way to pay at the moment.

Is it  PDF?  

No. It's an ebook, not a PDF. 

Can I have it on my Windoze machine that runs XP?  

Yes, you just need ebook reader software. Adobe has a free ebook
reader app alled Digital Editions
http://www.adobe.com/products/digitaleditions/

Where is the table of contents?  Is it in the preview and it's just so 
little I cant see it?

I didn't put the TOC in the preview because I wanted to emphasize the
photos. I can add it when I get home this evening.


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Re: PDML Book is live online and available for purchase

2011-04-12 Thread William Robb

On 12/04/2011 11:00 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 11:31:56 -0400, you wrote:


3 questions --
for the e book, can I pay with paypal?


Yes. In fact, that's the only way to pay at the moment.



I was offered all the credit card options when I ordered one just a few 
minutes ago. I chose Paypal though, so I suppose a hand might have 
reached out of my monitor and slapped my face if I had tried to use Visa.


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Re: Tilt-shift lenses or adaptors

2011-04-12 Thread Thibouille
Thank you all.
Definitely interesting ideas :)

I'd prefer not to use a bellow, for convenience reasons and avoid the
freelensing (though it should be fun, I have the Tamron but in 28/2.5
version).
I even contemplate the possibility of using other brands cameras just
for that purpose.
I guess using a vue camera in studio is influencing my wishes for my
photography.

Canon TSE lenses are insanely priced. Isn't there any other TS lenses
for cheap? Too bad... I'd even use a CaNikon if needs to (ouch).

2011/4/12 eckinator eckina...@gmail.com:
 The Zörkendörfer MFS (Multi Focus System) might do the trick for you -
 it is basically a tilt convertor for enlarger lenses (other lenses can
 also be adapted but the default is M39 screwmount). They show up on
 eBay from time to time. Expect to pay 150-250 w/o a lens. Zörk also
 builds a shift adaptor to go with it. Problem with all aftermarket t/s
 conversions is that you can't really shoot wide angles.
 HTH Ecke
 BTW you can borrow my Novoflex t/s bellows if you can afford to
 replace/repair it should it come to that.

 2011/4/5 Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com:
 I'm looking into getting a T/S lens.
 I don't care much if not Pentax or if I need an adaptor. However I
 care about price.
 Those things are usually very pricey.

 I might even accept a Canon lens, if it is what I need to get
 Tilt/shift. I know Pentax only did a Shift but no tilt.

 If anybody has an 'affordable' way of doing this, please speak ;)

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Re: PDML Book is live online and available for purchase

2011-04-12 Thread Mark Roberts
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 11:07:36 -0600, you wrote:

On 12/04/2011 11:00 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
 On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 11:31:56 -0400, you wrote:

 3 questions --
 for the e book, can I pay with paypal?

 Yes. In fact, that's the only way to pay at the moment.


I was offered all the credit card options when I ordered one just a few 
minutes ago.

Cool! I had no idea.

 I chose Paypal though, so I suppose a hand might have 
reached out of my monitor and slapped my face if I had tried to use Visa.

Best to play it safe...

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Re: OT Great use for a K5 (vid)

2011-04-12 Thread William Robb

On 30/03/2011 7:22 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY7aFgDUKW4

One of the people on ForumsNeurotica was in the habit of doing that, I 
think with a K7. Eventually, the inevitable happened and he managed to 
wreck his camera.

He was quite hard done by.

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Re: Gmail quoting (was: Re: PDML Book is live online and available for purchase)

2011-04-12 Thread Ann Sanfedele
My mail is Netscape 7.0  Communicator...  I have a pop server on road 
runner...  but I seldom if ever go on line to use it..
I just download everything to my computer and don't leave it on line... 
everything comes in as plain text except some HTML is

treated as an attachment.

Not only doesn't it strip out everyting below someones signature line 
but I sometimes do that manually myself...


I don't think it is stripping out anything below a sig line in the mail 
I'm getting from others...
I have one good friend who uses gmail and am always annoyed taht when I 
get mail from her
in response to something I wrote  all I get is her response - which is 
very problimatical and I have to go
back to my original mail and copy and paste it in to read it while I'm 
writing - having totally forgotten what I said.


example -  I write - I'll meet you at the corner of 5th and 34th at noon 
on saturday


and the reply (that comes in hours later) says -- ok  and nothing 
else. :-(


ann


Matthew Hunt wrote:


On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

 


me too - but -- I wouldn't have replied just for a me too except...
NOTE :   all I did was hit reply -- Dan had replied including something of
another poster's (Matthew Hunt's) comment..
but  you will see that all that is below is Dan's comment, not Matthew's or
any links.
what is going on with that?  It can't be my settings, because if it were it
would happen all the time, right?
I think it might have something to do with G-mail   anyone???
   



I'm not sure what's causing that problem, because it doesn't happen
for me. If I reply to Dan's email in Gmail's web interface, it quotes
everything in his message, including the earlier quoted material from
me. I couldn't find anything obvious in Gmail's settings that might be
causing the problem.

Are you using the Gmail web interface, or a mail application?

One possibility: The material Dan quoted appears below his signature.
Some mail applications suppress quoting signatures (presumably
everything after the --).

 





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Re: PDML Book is live online and available for purchase

2011-04-12 Thread Ann Sanfedele
thanks!  
It will be quite a while before I could get the book itself... I hope 
one of my friends buy it so I can see it.

but I can do the $6.00 for the ebook..

ann

Mark Roberts wrote:


On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 11:31:56 -0400, you wrote:


3 questions --
for the e book, can I pay with paypal?
   


Yes. In fact, that's the only way to pay at the moment.

Is it  PDF?  
   

No. It's an ebook, not a PDF. 

Can I have it on my Windoze machine that runs XP?  
   



Yes, you just need ebook reader software. Adobe has a free ebook
reader app alled Digital Editions
http://www.adobe.com/products/digitaleditions/

 

Where is the table of contents?  Is it in the preview and it's just so 
little I cant see it?
   



I didn't put the TOC in the preview because I wanted to emphasize the
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