nanda devi/ milam glacier trek photos

2012-05-22 Thread Subash
hi,

a large gallery, but hopefully the thumbnail view would let you see
what you want to see:

https://picasaweb.google.com/117979942681874882460/Nandadevi

do let me know what you like and what you don't

thanks, subash

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Re: K-30 vs K-5

2012-05-22 Thread Rick Womer


 

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On May 22, 2012, at 3:43 PM, steve harley wrote:

 on 2012-05-22 11:31 Rick Womer wrote
 I think another big difference will be the 12 v. 14 bit/channel RAW--I 
 suspect those extra bits in the K-5 are where the great DR lives.
 
 that concerns me too, but somehow dxomark rates the dynamic range of the K 01 
 12.9 Evs vs 14.1 Evs for K-5 — just over a stop of difference rather than the 
 two stops that the data path would support, but still a significant difference
 
 (it would seem odd that 12 bits can support almost 13 stops of dynamic range; 
 i suspect that some sort of dynamic range compression is used, or that i 
 don't understand dxomark's measurement system)


I think that it can measure 13 stops of dynamic range, but with only 12 bits of 
resolution.  In other words, the fewest photons it can sense is 100, but 
anything between 100 and 200 (actually 300?) will read as 0x0001.  The most 
that it can read before clipping is 819200 photons, but it reads that os 0x0FFF 
(4095).  Meanwhile a 14 bit A/D with 13bits of dynamic range would read 100 
photons as 0x0002, and 819200 photons as 0x3FFF (16,383), or it would have a 
resolution of 50 photos per bit of least resolution.



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Uhhh...yeahwhatever.

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PESO - Another Tree Swallow

2012-05-22 Thread frank theriault
I may like this tree swallow more than the one from a few days ago
~except~ for that bright yellow oof bit in the bottom left.  Do you
think it's too much of a distraction, or can you live with it?  I'd be
very curious to get the reaction of the list:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/05/another-tree-swallow.html

Thanks in advance.  Hope you enjoy.

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Re: K-30 vs K-5

2012-05-22 Thread David Parsons
In practice the difference is minimal.

http://www.earthboundlight.com/phototips/nikon-d300-d3-14-bit-versus-12-bit.html

Bit depth does not equal stops of DR.

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On May 22, 2012, at 3:43 PM, steve harley wrote:

 on 2012-05-22 11:31 Rick Womer wrote
 I think another big difference will be the 12 v. 14 bit/channel RAW--I 
 suspect those extra bits in the K-5 are where the great DR lives.

 that concerns me too, but somehow dxomark rates the dynamic range of the K 
 01 12.9 Evs vs 14.1 Evs for K-5 — just over a stop of difference rather than 
 the two stops that the data path would support, but still a significant 
 difference

 (it would seem odd that 12 bits can support almost 13 stops of dynamic 
 range; i suspect that some sort of dynamic range compression is used, or 
 that i don't understand dxomark's measurement system)


 I think that it can measure 13 stops of dynamic range, but with only 12 bits 
 of resolution.  In other words, the fewest photons it can sense is 100, but 
 anything between 100 and 200 (actually 300?) will read as 0x0001.  The most 
 that it can read before clipping is 819200 photons, but it reads that os 
 0x0FFF (4095).  Meanwhile a 14 bit A/D with 13bits of dynamic range would 
 read 100 photons as 0x0002, and 819200 photons as 0x3FFF (16,383), or it 
 would have a resolution of 50 photos per bit of least resolution.



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Re: First PESO in a long while

2012-05-22 Thread Tim Bray
Mmmm textures mmm -T

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Mark Roberts
postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Hiking in New Hapmshire (Mount Monadnock) a few days ago, we saw some
 fine painted Trilliums. Herre's the best photo of the lot: Hiking in
 New Hampshire a few days ago:
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/index.htm

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RE: PESO - Nesting by the Yacht Club

2012-05-22 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I believe that I forgot a hyphen.

And a couple of letters.

It is in fact a red-necked grebe.

Named Bubba.

;-)

Okay, now that I've pissed off everyone south of the Mason Dixon Line, let me 
thank all who looked and commented. Glad you liked it.

Cheers,
frank 

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that's a very interesting and effective picture. I must admit though, I was
expecting more of a Nascar-like environment.

B

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 Subject: PESO - Nesting by the Yacht Club
 
 This redneck grebe's nest is near the Lakeshore Yacht Club.  I thought
 the reflections of the masts made for an interesting picture:
 
 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/05/nesting-by-yacht-club.html
 
 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
 
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RE: K-30 vs K-5

2012-05-22 Thread J.C. O'Connell
Bit depth does not equal stops of DR.

I second that.

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In practice the difference is minimal.

http://www.earthboundlight.com/phototips/nikon-d300-d3-14-bit-versus-12-bit.
html

Bit depth does not equal stops of DR.

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On May 22, 2012, at 3:43 PM, steve harley wrote:

 on 2012-05-22 11:31 Rick Womer wrote
 I think another big difference will be the 12 v. 14 bit/channel RAW--I
suspect those extra bits in the K-5 are where the great DR lives.

 that concerns me too, but somehow dxomark rates the dynamic range of the
K 01 12.9 Evs vs 14.1 Evs for K-5 — just over a stop of difference rather
than the two stops that the data path would support, but still a significant
difference

 (it would seem odd that 12 bits can support almost 13 stops of dynamic
range; i suspect that some sort of dynamic range compression is used, or
that i don't understand dxomark's measurement system)


 I think that it can measure 13 stops of dynamic range, but with only 12
bits of resolution.  In other words, the fewest photons it can sense is 100,
but anything between 100 and 200 (actually 300?) will read as 0x0001.  The
most that it can read before clipping is 819200 photons, but it reads that
os 0x0FFF (4095).  Meanwhile a 14 bit A/D with 13bits of dynamic range would
read 100 photons as 0x0002, and 819200 photons as 0x3FFF (16,383), or it
would have a resolution of 50 photos per bit of least resolution.



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Re: K-30 vs K-5

2012-05-22 Thread Miserere
On 22 May 2012 22:17, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote:
 In practice the difference is minimal.

 http://www.earthboundlight.com/phototips/nikon-d300-d3-14-bit-versus-12-bit.html

 Bit depth does not equal stops of DR.

Bit depth does not equal captured stops of DR, but sets an upper limit
on the stops of DR stored as data in the file.


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RE: nanda devi/ milam glacier trek photos

2012-05-22 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
The landscapes are stunning but you have actually managed to shoot even better 
people photos.

All in all some of the best work I've seen here (or anywhere else) lately.

Top notch!

cheers,
frank

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From: Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com
Sent: May 22, 2012 5/22/12
To: PDML pdml@pdml.net
Subject: nanda devi/ milam glacier trek photos

hi,

a large gallery, but hopefully the thumbnail view would let you see
what you want to see:

https://picasaweb.google.com/117979942681874882460/Nandadevi

do let me know what you like and what you don't

thanks, subash

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RE: First PESO in a long while

2012-05-22 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Beautiful!

But I thought trilliums have three petals? Is this an anomaly or does this 
particular species have four?

No matter, it's gorgeous!

cheers,
frank 

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From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com
Sent: May 22, 2012 5/22/12
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: First PESO in a long while

Hiking in New Hapmshire (Mount Monadnock) a few days ago, we saw some
fine painted Trilliums. Herre's the best photo of the lot: Hiking in
New Hampshire a few days ago:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/index.htm

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Re: nanda devi/ milam glacier trek photos

2012-05-22 Thread Subash
On Wed, 23 May 2012 03:05:44 + (UTC)
knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 The landscapes are stunning but you have actually managed to shoot
 even better people photos.

thanks, Frank. appreciate that, coming especially from you... :)

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Re: K-5 and Sigma 300 f4 APO, again

2012-05-22 Thread Miserere
On 22 May 2012 20:31, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 So, after i set the Sigma 300 f4 APO's focus point a few weekends ago,
 i set out Saturday to shoot a few back yard birds and such.

 I did not have to review the photos in LR to tell which ones would be
 in relative good focus and which ones could not focus. Its a hit a
 miss but i'm now getting the odd shot like this:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/7252554432/in/photostream
 Pretty much in focus, and then at times i get this:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/7252554372/in/photostream
 Nothing will be in focus no matter how hard i try or use AF or MF.

 Not sure what going on, the lens worked very well with the istD and k-10d.

 Any thoughts??


 Dave

If it's not the SR going crazy Like P.J. suggested, then I'd say you
have a loose lens element in the lens. That picture reminds me of a
lens I partially took apart to clean the diaphragm blades, and then
couldn't remember the correct sequence for the rear 3 elements. I
tried various combinations, and the least crap one (though incorrect)
produced photos like that.

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Re: K-30 vs K-5

2012-05-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Miserere wrote:

On 22 May 2012 22:17, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote:
 In practice the difference is minimal.

 http://www.earthboundlight.com/phototips/nikon-d300-d3-14-bit-versus-12-bit.html

 Bit depth does not equal stops of DR.

Bit depth does not equal captured stops of DR, but sets an upper limit
on the stops of DR stored as data in the file.

Concise and perfect. (I was trying to work out how to say that without
generating a massive long paragraph doing so!)

 
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Re: PESO- The eclipse from this side of the world.

2012-05-22 Thread Miserere
On 22 May 2012 20:50, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote:
 No, not the total eclipse...not in the Philippines anyway.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/7237033626/

 But we did get a partial during sunrise--not willing to gamble a road
 trip to find a good vantage point (the weather is transitioning from
 dry to wet) I settled for a pedestrian footbridge near my house.
 There was a haze so the sun did not really appear until well above 5
 degrees above the horizon missing landmarks which I could have used as
 a foreground.

 Bong


Damn those uncooperative clouds! But it's still a very nice shot.


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Re: First PESO in a long while

2012-05-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Tom C wrote:

 Hiking in New Hapmshire (Mount Monadnock) a few days ago, we saw some
 fine painted Trilliums. Herre's the best photo of the lot: Hiking in
 New Hampshire a few days ago:
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/index.htm

 (Getting ready for nature photography at GFM)

Quite lovely! Excellent lighting for the subject.

Two points:

1 - I think it's the ferns that make this shot. There were plenty of
other trillium around but this was the best opportunity for a good
composition because of the ferns.

2 -  Bloody 'ell, I *just* now noticed that this isn't a trillium -
it's a quadrillium (a mutant with four petals and four leaves)! I
didn't notice while I was shooting it and I've been looking at the
photo without noticing for days. I've only ever seen one before and
that was on Grandfather Mountain a few years ago.
 
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RE: K-30 vs K-5

2012-05-22 Thread J.C. O'Connell
Bit depth does not equal captured stops of DR, but sets an upper limit
on the stops of DR stored as data in the file.

Only if linear coding is employed. DR in stops is not inherently limited
by bit depth, only the number of shades of gray is.

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Subject: Re: K-30 vs K-5

On 22 May 2012 22:17, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote:
 In practice the difference is minimal.


http://www.earthboundlight.com/phototips/nikon-d300-d3-14-bit-versus-12-bit.
html

 Bit depth does not equal stops of DR.

Bit depth does not equal captured stops of DR, but sets an upper limit
on the stops of DR stored as data in the file.


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RE: PESO- The eclipse from this side of the world.

2012-05-22 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Wow!

cheers,
frank

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Sent: May 22, 2012 5/22/12
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Subject: PESO- The eclipse from this side of the world.

No, not the total eclipse...not in the Philippines anyway.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/7237033626/

But we did get a partial during sunrise--not willing to gamble a road
trip to find a good vantage point (the weather is transitioning from
dry to wet) I settled for a pedestrian footbridge near my house.
There was a haze so the sun did not really appear until well above 5
degrees above the horizon missing landmarks which I could have used as
a foreground.

Bong
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Re: First PESO in a long while

2012-05-22 Thread kwaller

Great capture Mark. the Trilliums peaked here several weeks ago.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

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Subject: First PESO in a long while



Hiking in New Hapmshire (Mount Monadnock) a few days ago, we saw some
fine painted Trilliums. Herre's the best photo of the lot: Hiking in
New Hampshire a few days ago:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/index.htm

(Getting ready for nature photography at GFM)

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Re: nanda devi/ milam glacier trek photos

2012-05-22 Thread steve harley

on 2012-05-22 19:33 Subash wrote

hi,

a large gallery, but hopefully the thumbnail view would let you see
what you want to see:

https://picasaweb.google.com/117979942681874882460/Nandadevi

do let me know what you like and what you don't


wow, enjoyed the whole trip; was especially noticing the beautiful textures of 
tuft grasses at various points, and the personalities of the people; the views 
of the mountain are obligatory and grand, but i did not need so many


#14 is my favorite — lovely grasses, infinite depth, the position of the hiker 
… but most of all the sense that on an ancient trail the passions and 
disappointments of those long gone still linger on the steps


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Re: nanda devi/ milam glacier trek photos

2012-05-22 Thread Larry Colen
excellent, thanks for sharing.

On May 22, 2012, at 6:33 PM, Subash wrote:

 hi,
 
 a large gallery, but hopefully the thumbnail view would let you see
 what you want to see:
 
 https://picasaweb.google.com/117979942681874882460/Nandadevi
 
 do let me know what you like and what you don't
 
 thanks, subash
 
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Re: nanda devi/ milam glacier trek photos

2012-05-22 Thread Cotty
On 23/5/12, Subash, discombobulated, unleashed:

hi,

a large gallery, but hopefully the thumbnail view would let you see
what you want to see:

https://picasaweb.google.com/117979942681874882460/Nandadevi

do let me know what you like and what you don't

Stunning gallery!

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