Happy with the K-5IIs

2013-02-20 Thread Dario Bonazza
Yes, I know there is not so much difference overall, compared to the plain 
K-5, but the improvements in AF (both its precision with tungsten light and 
its much extended sensitivity to low light) make a huge difference for me 
and the kind of pics I shoot.


As per the difference between K-5II and K-5IIs, in most cases the sharpness 
is the same (other factors such as minimal motion blur and subtle difference 
in focusing being more important than AA filter or not). However, when all 
winds blow in favor, the difference is more than noticeable.


Moiré? After 3,000 shots with the K-5IIs, I spotted it only twice. One was a 
grid of an air conditioner (lost in the distance on a balcony within a 
cityscape) and another one was a fabric in a still life I setup on purpose 
to generate moiré. Not a big problem for me.


This I wanted to share before sinking into lurk mode because I am late with 
deadlines at work.


Cheers,

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RE: K-5 grip glitch grinds...

2013-02-20 Thread Bob W
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bipin Gupta
 
 To Paul and the other PDMLers who have wasted Server time and space in
 writing such gibberish. Typical Childish behavior. Sorry to mention
 this.  But this K-5 glitch was a serious topic and a good learning
 experience for all of us.
 Regards.
 Bipin - from that far away enchanting land.
 

refrigera vir!

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RE: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

2013-02-20 Thread Bob W
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 knarftheria...@gmail.com
 
 If parents don't want their kids photographed in public places they
 could dress them in little burkas.
 
 They could make Western burkas: like Spiderman or Star Wars for boys,
 Barbie or My Little Pony for the girls.
 
 One could do a Christian motif: cover it in crucifixes or maybe a beard
 and crown of thorns. Different religions could use their own symbology.
 Cover up your child and indoctrinate all at once!
 
 And think of the sports team licensing opportunities here!
 
 Your kid will look cool ~and~ be protected from photographers and other
 pesky predators.
 
 With the right marketing this could take off...
 

you've hit the nail on the head here, Frank. Set up a market stall and get
selling - you could be on your way to your first million. 

B 


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Re: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

2013-02-20 Thread DagT

Den 20. feb. 2013 kl. 09:23 skrev Bob W p...@web-options.com:

 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 knarftheria...@gmail.com
 
 If parents don't want their kids photographed in public places they
 could dress them in little burkas.
 
 They could make Western burkas: like Spiderman or Star Wars for boys,
 Barbie or My Little Pony for the girls.
 
 One could do a Christian motif: cover it in crucifixes or maybe a beard
 and crown of thorns. Different religions could use their own symbology.
 Cover up your child and indoctrinate all at once!
 
 And think of the sports team licensing opportunities here!
 
 Your kid will look cool ~and~ be protected from photographers and other
 pesky predators.
 
 With the right marketing this could take off...
 
 you've hit the nail on the head here, Frank. Set up a market stall and get
 selling - you could be on your way to your first million. 
 
 B 

Yeah. Fear is a wonderful marketing method. 
Protect your children from the Evil eyes of photographers and bad men

DagT

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Re: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

2013-02-20 Thread DagT

Den 20. feb. 2013 kl. 11:26 skrev DagT li...@thrane.name:

 
 Den 20. feb. 2013 kl. 09:23 skrev Bob W p...@web-options.com:
 
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 knarftheria...@gmail.com
 
 If parents don't want their kids photographed in public places they
 could dress them in little burkas.
 
 They could make Western burkas: like Spiderman or Star Wars for boys,
 Barbie or My Little Pony for the girls.
 
 One could do a Christian motif: cover it in crucifixes or maybe a beard
 and crown of thorns. Different religions could use their own symbology.
 Cover up your child and indoctrinate all at once!
 
 And think of the sports team licensing opportunities here!
 
 Your kid will look cool ~and~ be protected from photographers and other
 pesky predators.
 
 With the right marketing this could take off...
 
 you've hit the nail on the head here, Frank. Set up a market stall and get
 selling - you could be on your way to your first million. 
 
 B
 
 Yeah. Fear is a wonderful marketing method. 
 Protect your children from the Evil eyes of photographers and bad men

Or:
The only way to stop a bad man with a Camera is a good burka

DagT

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Re: K-5 grip glitch grinds...

2013-02-20 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 20/2/13, Bipin Gupta, discombobulated, unleashed:

To Paul and the other PDMLers who have wasted Server time and space in
writing such gibberish. Typical Childish behavior.

Unheard of. Mark!!

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OT - Frequent Fracture Card

2013-02-20 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
That's what they're giving me at St. Joe's Hospital here in Toronto. Third 
visit in two years, second since September.

We had a flash freeze yesterday after a thaw that covered the gutters and bike 
lanes with standing water. The sudden drop in temps, of course, turned it to 
ice. Worse was the gusting forty-to-sixty kilometre an hour winds. Got smacked 
with a sudden sidewind while on black ice. Down I go.

Broken ankle. But, a good break which should allow a walking cast/boot and 
heal without complications.

On my way to fracture clinic as we speak to be looked at by orthopaedic surgeon 
and get fitted for aforementioned cast.

If I am a walking/metropassing messenger for a while I will have more photo 
ops!  ;-)

As always, could have been worse.

More on this later. Just wanted to share with friends (that's you guys!).  ;-)

cheers,
frank


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Re: K-5 grip glitch grinds...

2013-02-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
nullum sensum humor

On Feb 20, 2013, at 1:53 AM, Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com wrote:

 To Paul and the other PDMLers who have wasted Server time and space in
 writing such gibberish. Typical Childish behavior. Sorry to mention
 this.  But this K-5 glitch was a serious topic and a good learning
 experience for all of us.
 Regards.
 Bipin - from that far away enchanting land.
 
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RE: K-5 grip glitch grinds...

2013-02-20 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Res ipsa loquitor.

Cheers,
frank

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Sent: February 20, 2013 2/20/13
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
Subject: RE: K-5 grip glitch grinds...

 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bipin Gupta
 
 To Paul and the other PDMLers who have wasted Server time and space in
 writing such gibberish. Typical Childish behavior. Sorry to mention
 this.  But this K-5 glitch was a serious topic and a good learning
 experience for all of us.
 Regards.
 Bipin - from that far away enchanting land.
 

refrigera vir!

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Re: OT - Frequent Fracture Card

2013-02-20 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 20/2/13, knarftheria...@gmail.com, discombobulated, unleashed:

That's what they're giving me at St. Joe's Hospital here in Toronto.
Third visit in two years, second since September.

We had a flash freeze yesterday after a thaw that covered the gutters
and bike lanes with standing water. The sudden drop in temps, of course,
turned it to ice. Worse was the gusting forty-to-sixty kilometre an hour
winds. Got smacked with a sudden sidewind while on black ice. Down I go.

Broken ankle. But, a good break which should allow a walking cast/boot
and heal without complications.

On my way to fracture clinic as we speak to be looked at by orthopaedic
surgeon and get fitted for aforementioned cast.

If I am a walking/metropassing messenger for a while I will have more
photo ops!  ;-)

As always, could have been worse.

More on this later. Just wanted to share with friends (that's you
guys!).  ;-)

Holy mackerel. No point in saying 'be careful' !!!

Hope it goes smoothly anyway mate.

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Re: OT - Frequent Fracture Card

2013-02-20 Thread Charles Robinson
On Feb 20, 2013, at 6:34 , knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 More on this later. Just wanted to share with friends (that's you guys!).  ;-)
 

Uhm... congratulations?

 -Charles

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Re: OT - Frequent Fracture Card

2013-02-20 Thread Jack Davis
Congratulations! G Too bad..but then they defined it as a good break. Guess 
you are experienced enough to know just how to do a pro break. (?) 
Sorry, Paul!
 
Jack

From: knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com
To: PDML@pdml.net 
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 4:34 AM
Subject: OT - Frequent Fracture Card

That's what they're giving me at St. Joe's Hospital here in Toronto. Third 
visit in two years, second since September.

We had a flash freeze yesterday after a thaw that covered the gutters and bike 
lanes with standing water. The sudden drop in temps, of course, turned it to 
ice. Worse was the gusting forty-to-sixty kilometre an hour winds. Got smacked 
with a sudden sidewind while on black ice. Down I go.

Broken ankle. But, a good break which should allow a walking cast/boot and 
heal without complications.

On my way to fracture clinic as we speak to be looked at by orthopaedic surgeon 
and get fitted for aforementioned cast.

If I am a walking/metropassing messenger for a while I will have more photo 
ops!  ;-)

As always, could have been worse.

More on this later. Just wanted to share with friends (that's you guys!).  ;-)

cheers,
frank


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K-30 sucks (was Re: Happy with the K-5IIs)

2013-02-20 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013, Dario Bonazza wrote:

 As per the difference between K-5II and K-5IIs, in most cases the
 sharpness is the same (other factors such as minimal motion blur and
 subtle difference in focusing being more important than AA filter or
 not). However, when all winds blow in favor, the difference is more
 than noticeable.

Good to know!

Day one of my trial rental, and I have to say that the K-30 sucks, I find
it physically uncomfortable to hold compared to both Larry's K-x and the
K-5/IIs.  I'm also not finding that the K-30 live view works any better
than the K-5's (based on minimal/informal testing in a dark room).
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Re: K-5 grip glitch grinds...

2013-02-20 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 On Feb 20, 2013, at 1:53 AM, Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 To Paul and the other PDMLers who have wasted Server time and space in
 writing such gibberish. Typical Childish behavior. Sorry to mention
 this.  But this K-5 glitch was a serious topic and a good learning
 experience for all of us.

 nullum sensum humor

Shouldn't that be humum?
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Re: OT - Frequent Fracture Card

2013-02-20 Thread David J Brooks
bummer Frank, hope it heals quickly
dave

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 7:34 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's what they're giving me at St. Joe's Hospital here in Toronto. Third 
 visit in two years, second since September.

 We had a flash freeze yesterday after a thaw that covered the gutters and 
 bike lanes with standing water. The sudden drop in temps, of course, turned 
 it to ice. Worse was the gusting forty-to-sixty kilometre an hour winds. Got 
 smacked with a sudden sidewind while on black ice. Down I go.

 Broken ankle. But, a good break which should allow a walking cast/boot and 
 heal without complications.

 On my way to fracture clinic as we speak to be looked at by orthopaedic 
 surgeon and get fitted for aforementioned cast.

 If I am a walking/metropassing messenger for a while I will have more photo 
 ops!  ;-)

 As always, could have been worse.

 More on this later. Just wanted to share with friends (that's you guys!).  ;-)

 cheers,
 frank


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Re: OT - Frequent Fracture Card

2013-02-20 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 We had a flash freeze yesterday after a thaw that covered the gutters
 and bike lanes with standing water. The sudden drop in temps, of
 course, turned it to ice. Worse was the gusting forty-to-sixty
 kilometre an hour winds. Got smacked with a sudden sidewind while on
 black ice. Down I go.

At least you had a good reason instead of the break dancing I've done
twice now.
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Re: OT - Frequent Fracture Card

2013-02-20 Thread Paul Sorenson
You Canadians!!  Always trying to make us here in the south feel bad 
about our healthcare system.  ; )


Sorry about the mishap, but looking forward to more pix.

-p



On 2/20/2013 6:34 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

That's what they're giving me at St. Joe's Hospital here in Toronto. Third 
visit in two years, second since September.

We had a flash freeze yesterday after a thaw that covered the gutters and bike 
lanes with standing water. The sudden drop in temps, of course, turned it to 
ice. Worse was the gusting forty-to-sixty kilometre an hour winds. Got smacked 
with a sudden sidewind while on black ice. Down I go.

Broken ankle. But, a good break which should allow a walking cast/boot and 
heal without complications.

On my way to fracture clinic as we speak to be looked at by orthopaedic surgeon 
and get fitted for aforementioned cast.

If I am a walking/metropassing messenger for a while I will have more photo 
ops!  ;-)

As always, could have been worse.

More on this later. Just wanted to share with friends (that's you guys!).  ;-)

cheers,
frank


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Re: K-30 sucks (was Re: Happy with the K-5IIs)

2013-02-20 Thread Charles Robinson
On Feb 20, 2013, at 8:44 , Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:
 
 Day one of my trial rental, and I have to say that the K-30 sucks, I find
 it physically uncomfortable to hold compared to both Larry's K-x and the
 K-5/IIs.  I'm also not finding that the K-30 live view works any better
 than the K-5's (based on minimal/informal testing in a dark room).

Good to know.  I waffled on whether to get a new K30 or a used K5 for about the 
same price and I decided I needed/wanted the faster frame rate and top LCD that 
the K5 offers.  Sounds like I made the right choice.

BTW did anyone else jump from the K7 to K5 and notice that you can now select 
the level of backlighting for the top LCD?  High/Low/Off.  Delightful.

 -Charles

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Re: Happy with the K-5

2013-02-20 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013, Charles Robinson wrote:

 BTW did anyone else jump from the K7 to K5 and notice that you can
 now select the level of backlighting for the top LCD?  High/Low/Off.
 Delightful.

Oh, *that's* what that menu item does, thanks!

Incidentally, going back to my complaint about the location of the
playback button, I think I've figured out the best way to do post-shot
image review: immediately turn the back wheel to zoom in during review
(and I set the review period to five seconds).
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Re: Happy with the K-5IIs

2013-02-20 Thread Darren Addy
Glad to hear you are happy with your K-5iis, Dario. Being disappointed
in a purchase is never any fun.

Found this post over on dpreview forum interesting. This guy went from
a Sony NEX-7 to a Nikon D600 to a Pentax K-5ii and he is *now* also
very happy.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50892332
Funny, when you find people on this forum feeling they need to move to
one of those two very cameras. I think that sometimes we just fall
prey to the need for something new and then rationalize the why after
the fact. But as long as you have the money and are happy with the
decision afterwards, more power to you.

I just don't think there can be much argument that the
K-5/K-5ii/K-5iis represent Pentax very well at the summit of the best
all-things-considered cameras available. That combined with the
largest selection of lenses available for any DSLR (when you include
all the older Pentax AF mounts, the manual focus K-mount and m42 stuff
you can use) still make the choice of a Pentax a no-brainer in my
book. Throw in features like the in-body SR and stuff you can't even
get on any other system (like the O-GPS1) and Pentax deserves to be
the envy of the owners of the other brands, rather than the other way
around. I'm very glad that I bet on Pentax when I chose my first
DSLR, a K200D, 7 years ago. They've improved their position
considerably in that time, although not fast enough for some.

I just love using the screwmount lenses (Takumars, Flektogon, etc.)
and that reason alone would keep me from ever going to a Nikon. (An
adapter with an optical element is necessary to achieve infinity
focus, as I'm sure you all know).

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Re: OT - Frequent Fracture Card

2013-02-20 Thread Bruce Walker
Does that card get you discounts at the hospital lobby Starbucks or an
upgrade to a stainless steel cast?

Jeepers, Frank! Knit well and stay off that black ice.


On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 7:34 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's what they're giving me at St. Joe's Hospital here in Toronto. Third 
 visit in two years, second since September.

 We had a flash freeze yesterday after a thaw that covered the gutters and 
 bike lanes with standing water. The sudden drop in temps, of course, turned 
 it to ice. Worse was the gusting forty-to-sixty kilometre an hour winds. Got 
 smacked with a sudden sidewind while on black ice. Down I go.

 Broken ankle. But, a good break which should allow a walking cast/boot and 
 heal without complications.

 On my way to fracture clinic as we speak to be looked at by orthopaedic 
 surgeon and get fitted for aforementioned cast.

 If I am a walking/metropassing messenger for a while I will have more photo 
 ops!  ;-)

 As always, could have been worse.

 More on this later. Just wanted to share with friends (that's you guys!).  ;-)

 cheers,
 frank


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K-01 now on the official discontinued model page

2013-02-20 Thread Darren Addy
http://www.pentax.jp/english/products/others.html

BH still has the bodies in your choice of colors for $299. Get one
with the DA40 for an extra $60.

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Re: OT - Frequent Fracture Card

2013-02-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
Ouch! Heal well.

On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:50 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does that card get you discounts at the hospital lobby Starbucks or an
 upgrade to a stainless steel cast?
 
 Jeepers, Frank! Knit well and stay off that black ice.
 
 
 On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 7:34 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's what they're giving me at St. Joe's Hospital here in Toronto. Third 
 visit in two years, second since September.
 
 We had a flash freeze yesterday after a thaw that covered the gutters and 
 bike lanes with standing water. The sudden drop in temps, of course, turned 
 it to ice. Worse was the gusting forty-to-sixty kilometre an hour winds. Got 
 smacked with a sudden sidewind while on black ice. Down I go.
 
 Broken ankle. But, a good break which should allow a walking cast/boot and 
 heal without complications.
 
 On my way to fracture clinic as we speak to be looked at by orthopaedic 
 surgeon and get fitted for aforementioned cast.
 
 If I am a walking/metropassing messenger for a while I will have more photo 
 ops!  ;-)
 
 As always, could have been worse.
 
 More on this later. Just wanted to share with friends (that's you guys!).  
 ;-)
 
 cheers,
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Re: Happy with the K-5IIs

2013-02-20 Thread Dario Bonazza

Darren Addy wrote:

I think that sometimes we just fall prey to the need for something new and 
then rationalize the why after the fact.


My reply:

True. In this case, however, I had the opportunity to test those cameras 
(K-5II/K-5IIs) against my K-5, and the difference when focusing in very low 
light convinced me very easy. At first attempt to shoot performers in very 
very dim light, I no longer had to struggle with trying to focus while 
actually hunting, and I could get back thinking about shutter speeds for 
getting  a given effect, compositon and timing for pressing the shutter 
release.
A big step for me and my typical shooting conditions, and some kind of 
grinning, seeing a D600 user in trouble having to shut off the damn AF 
illuminator, very banned in that circumstance.


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Re: K-01 now on the official discontinued model page

2013-02-20 Thread Christine Nielsen
Mine is on the truck right now, out for delivery...!

I decided that, if for $350, I could get the k-5 sensor, a 40mm lens,
an always in my purse camera, one I wouldn't mind the kids
borrowing, and maybe try focus peaking for some macro/jewelery work I
shoot, then... why not?

Besides, the prospect of a shiny new toy is helping to take my mind of
my misbehaving k-5

:)
-c

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.pentax.jp/english/products/others.html

 BH still has the bodies in your choice of colors for $299. Get one
 with the DA40 for an extra $60.

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Re: OT - Frequent Fracture Card

2013-02-20 Thread Christine Nielsen
Yikes, Frank... heel fast!

:)
-c

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 7:34 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's what they're giving me at St. Joe's Hospital here in Toronto. Third 
 visit in two years, second since September.

 We had a flash freeze yesterday after a thaw that covered the gutters and 
 bike lanes with standing water. The sudden drop in temps, of course, turned 
 it to ice. Worse was the gusting forty-to-sixty kilometre an hour winds. Got 
 smacked with a sudden sidewind while on black ice. Down I go.

 Broken ankle. But, a good break which should allow a walking cast/boot and 
 heal without complications.

 On my way to fracture clinic as we speak to be looked at by orthopaedic 
 surgeon and get fitted for aforementioned cast.

 If I am a walking/metropassing messenger for a while I will have more photo 
 ops!  ;-)

 As always, could have been worse.

 More on this later. Just wanted to share with friends (that's you guys!).  ;-)

 cheers,
 frank


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Re: K-30 sucks (was Re: Happy with the K-5IIs)

2013-02-20 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013, Charles Robinson wrote:
 On Feb 20, 2013, at 8:44 , Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:
 
 Day one of my trial rental, and I have to say that the K-30 sucks, I find
 it physically uncomfortable to hold compared to both Larry's K-x and the
 K-5/IIs.  I'm also not finding that the K-30 live view works any better
 than the K-5's (based on minimal/informal testing in a dark room).
 
 Good to know.  I waffled on whether to get a new K30 or a used K5 for
 about the same price and I decided I needed/wanted the faster frame
 rate and top LCD that the K5 offers.  Sounds like I made the right
 choice.

One other thing: with the K-30 (and especially the K-x with its missing
front wheel), it feels that there aren't enough controls.  The K-5
doesn't have quite as many as my Nikon P7100, but almost everything is
well laid-out and I have no complaints.

The one thing I'd wish for is that the 4-way controller be a wheel in
addition to a joystick, it really makes going through the P7100 menus
faster.  OTOH, you mostly shouldn't need to use the menu once you have
everything set up, and I love TAv mode.
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Re: March PUG - Please Read!!

2013-02-20 Thread Ann Sanfedele



On 2/19/2013 21:59, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Good to see you on the job again. I'll dig something up.

Paul


HAR! careful there - note that the topic for March is body parts

ann


On Feb 19, 2013, at 8:12 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:


G'day all

I've decided that I can probably cope with compiling the March PUG - it will 
probably be good therapy.

Once again, many thanks to Bill for stepping up for January and February at 
short notice.

While I was in hospital, many of my emails were deleted unread so it is just 
possible that there may have been a submission or two that were lost in the 
process.  The only March submission that I have is from Eric Kantchev, so if 
you aren't Eric and had previously made a submission, please resubmit it.

A couple of other minor things that would help:

* If you have a submission ready to go, please don't wait until the end of the 
month.

* When entering details on the submission form, it would help if you use 
correct capitalisation for names, image title, etc.  eg. if your name is Joe 
Blogs, enter it as Joe Bloggs and not joe bloggs.


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++
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Western Sydney Australia
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Re: March PUG - Please Read!!

2013-02-20 Thread Ann Sanfedele

great minds... I replied in like fashion before seeing this :-)

ann

On 2/19/2013 23:02, Igor Roshchin wrote:


Taking into account that March theme is Body parts, that promise
sounds rather peculiar.
;-)

Igor


Tue Feb 19 21:59:44 EST 2013
Paul Stenquist wrote:


Good to see you on the job again. I'll dig something up.

Paul




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Re: OT - Frequent Fracture Card

2013-02-20 Thread Ann Sanfedele

aint broke anything in years (knock wood) myself -
major ouches

big hugs across the web to you..

But you have a while to go before catching me - broken hand, foot, 
shoulder, back , almost every toe and one twice. good that you don't 
need to be set, that makes it easier to deal with.  ankle really much 
worse than any of mine except the back and shoulder so I wince at yours.


seriously, take care of yourself you skinny guys are always more 
damamged my these things it seems.


xo,
ann

On 2/20/2013 07:34, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

That's what they're giving me at St. Joe's Hospital here in Toronto. Third 
visit in two years, second since September.

We had a flash freeze yesterday after a thaw that covered the gutters and bike 
lanes with standing water. The sudden drop in temps, of course, turned it to 
ice. Worse was the gusting forty-to-sixty kilometre an hour winds. Got smacked 
with a sudden sidewind while on black ice. Down I go.

Broken ankle. But, a good break which should allow a walking cast/boot and 
heal without complications.

On my way to fracture clinic as we speak to be looked at by orthopaedic surgeon 
and get fitted for aforementioned cast.

If I am a walking/metropassing messenger for a while I will have more photo 
ops!  ;-)

As always, could have been worse.

More on this later. Just wanted to share with friends (that's you guys!).  ;-)

cheers,
frank


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Re: PAW163 - Winter sky

2013-02-20 Thread Don Guthrie
Truly beautiful art as usual, but this time I have an urge to to put a 
greeting card message across that sky.


pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

On Tue, Feb 19, 2013, DagT wrote:


http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
Pentax K-5, DA*16-50mm@36mm, f/11, 1/125s, ISO100.



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Re: OT - Frequent Fracture Card

2013-02-20 Thread Kenneth Waller
Bummer!

-Original Message-
From: knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com
Subject: OT - Frequent Fracture Card

That's what they're giving me at St. Joe's Hospital here in Toronto. Third 
visit in two years, second since September.

We had a flash freeze yesterday after a thaw that covered the gutters and bike 
lanes with standing water. The sudden drop in temps, of course, turned it to 
ice. Worse was the gusting forty-to-sixty kilometre an hour winds. Got smacked 
with a sudden sidewind while on black ice. Down I go.

Broken ankle. But, a good break which should allow a walking cast/boot and 
heal without complications.

On my way to fracture clinic as we speak to be looked at by orthopaedic 
surgeon and get fitted for aforementioned cast.

If I am a walking/metropassing messenger for a while I will have more photo 
ops!  ;-)

As always, could have been worse.

More on this later. Just wanted to share with friends (that's you guys!).  ;-)

cheers,
frank


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Re: OT - Frequent Fracture Card

2013-02-20 Thread Walt

Damn, Frank!

I've been pretty fortunate and only broken one bone in my life. But, I 
made it a doozy -- a crushed wrist back in the late 90's.


Glad yours seems set to heal well without further intervention, and that 
there's some photographic upside to it.


Best wishes for a full and speedy recovery, Frank!

-- Walt


On 2/20/2013 6:34 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

That's what they're giving me at St. Joe's Hospital here in Toronto. Third 
visit in two years, second since September.

We had a flash freeze yesterday after a thaw that covered the gutters and bike 
lanes with standing water. The sudden drop in temps, of course, turned it to 
ice. Worse was the gusting forty-to-sixty kilometre an hour winds. Got smacked 
with a sudden sidewind while on black ice. Down I go.

Broken ankle. But, a good break which should allow a walking cast/boot and 
heal without complications.

On my way to fracture clinic as we speak to be looked at by orthopaedic surgeon 
and get fitted for aforementioned cast.

If I am a walking/metropassing messenger for a while I will have more photo 
ops!  ;-)

As always, could have been worse.

More on this later. Just wanted to share with friends (that's you guys!).  ;-)

cheers,
frank


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Re: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

2013-02-20 Thread Kenneth Waller
it appears your medication has kicked in!

-Original Message-
From: knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

If parents don't want their kids photographed in public places they could 
dress them in little burkas.

They could make Western burkas: like Spiderman or Star Wars for boys, Barbie 
or My Little Pony for the girls.

One could do a Christian motif: cover it in crucifixes or maybe a beard and 
crown of thorns. Different religions could use their own symbology. Cover up 
your child and indoctrinate all at once!

And think of the sports team licensing opportunities here!

Your kid will look cool ~and~ be protected from photographers and other pesky 
predators. 

With the right marketing this could take off...

Cheers,
frank



--- Original Message ---

From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
Sent: February 19, 2013 2/19/13
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

From: Igor Roshchin
 Tue Feb 19 08:50:32 EST 2013
 John Sessoms wrote:

 From: Larry Colen
 On Feb 18, 2013, at 7:43 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote:

 I'm going to hijack your post in a slightly different direction.
 My sibling has been rather adamant about not posting photos of zir
 child in public places.  What do other people think about that
 attitude?

 I think that parents should have the right to say whether pictures of
 their kids can be posted.


 That sounds an awful lot like giving parents an absolute veto over
 what you can photograph. It's not very far from there to You can't take
 photographs here because there are children present.

 John,

 There are constitunational (or otherwise legal) right, and there is what
 is right (and/or ethical) with a kid.

I don't photograph kids until I have a signed contract and the parents 
pay me a lot of money.

But if I am in a public location, going about my own business, it is 
parents responsibility to keep their kids out of my way. It is *not* 
their right to tell me I can't engage in my lawful occupation because 
they cannot or will not control their spawn.

I've had problems before where I was working, somebody's kid intruded 
into my frame  the parents hassled me about it.

I really don't like that.
.


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Re: March PUG - Please Read!!

2013-02-20 Thread Walt

Great to see you back in the fray and making progress, Brian!

I don't have the PUG submission page bookmarked, otherwise I'd go ahead 
and send my submission.


If someone can help me out with that, I'll submit ASAP.

-- Walt

On 2/19/2013 7:12 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

I've decided that I can probably cope with compiling the March PUG - 
it will probably be good therapy.


Once again, many thanks to Bill for stepping up for January and 
February at short notice.


While I was in hospital, many of my emails were deleted unread so it 
is just possible that there may have been a submission or two that 
were lost in the process.  The only March submission that I have is 
from Eric Kantchev, so if you aren't Eric and had previously made a 
submission, please resubmit it.


A couple of other minor things that would help:

* If you have a submission ready to go, please don't wait until the 
end of the month.


* When entering details on the submission form, it would help if you 
use correct capitalisation for names, image title, etc.  eg. if your 
name is Joe Blogs, enter it as Joe Bloggs and not joe bloggs.






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Re: ANyone use Posterous? Apparently it's shutting down

2013-02-20 Thread Walt

On 2/17/2013 12:13 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 17/2/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:


Looks like April 30 will be the last day for Posterous.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57569726-93/posterous-the-tumblr-
challenger-that-wasnt-shutting-down-april-30/

That's a real poo!

Do the cognoscenti know a decent alternative?



Wix seems to be a pretty fair alternative:

http://www.wix.com/

-- Walt

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Re: Happy with the K-5IIs

2013-02-20 Thread Tom Cakalic
 From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com

 Glad to hear you are happy with your K-5iis, Dario. Being disappointed
 in a purchase is never any fun.

 Found this post over on dpreview forum interesting. This guy went from
 a Sony NEX-7 to a Nikon D600 to a Pentax K-5ii and he is *now* also
 very happy.
 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50892332
 Funny, when you find people on this forum feeling they need to move to
 one of those two very cameras. I think that sometimes we just fall
 prey to the need for something new and then rationalize the why after
 the fact.

Keep telling yourself that. Just because you don't see the reason to
move or change doesn't mean there aren't valid reasons.

Just because this guy went the opposite direction doesn't mean much
either, other than that he must not have tried before he buyed
(bought). Otherwise why would he have not made the right choice for
him first time around?  I'm so stupid because I have a NEX-7 and a
D800. Next thing you know I'll sell my Subaru's and Toyota and get
Smart Cars.

 But as long as you have the money and are happy with the
 decision afterwards, more power to you.

 I just don't think there can be much argument that the
 K-5/K-5ii/K-5iis represent Pentax very well at the summit of the best
 all-things-considered cameras available.

 That combined with the
 largest selection of lenses available for any DSLR (when you include
 all the older Pentax AF mounts, the manual focus K-mount and m42 stuff
 you can use) still make the choice of a Pentax a no-brainer in my
 book. Throw in features like the in-body SR and stuff you can't even
 get on any other system (like the O-GPS1) and Pentax deserves to be
 the envy of the owners of the other brands, rather than the other way
 around. I'm very glad that I bet on Pentax when I chose my first
 DSLR, a K200D, 7 years ago. They've improved their position
 considerably in that time, although not fast enough for some.


Yes we all like to justify our purchases, don't we?

 I just love using the screwmount lenses (Takumars, Flektogon, etc.)
 and that reason alone would keep me from ever going to a Nikon. (An
 adapter with an optical element is necessary to achieve infinity
 focus, as I'm sure you all know).

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PESO - Cold Hard Sun

2013-02-20 Thread frank theriault
This was taken a few weeks ago on a ~very~ cold morning:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/02/cold-hard-sun.html

Comments always welcome.  Hope you enjoy.

cheers,
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Re: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

2013-02-20 Thread frank theriault
Not on meds.

Just in pain (at least was last night when I posted this).  Much
better today now that ankle is in cast.

;-)

cheers,
frank


On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 it appears your medication has kicked in!

 -Original Message-
From: knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

If parents don't want their kids photographed in public places they could 
dress them in little burkas.

They could make Western burkas: like Spiderman or Star Wars for boys, 
Barbie or My Little Pony for the girls.

One could do a Christian motif: cover it in crucifixes or maybe a beard and 
crown of thorns. Different religions could use their own symbology. Cover up 
your child and indoctrinate all at once!

And think of the sports team licensing opportunities here!

Your kid will look cool ~and~ be protected from photographers and other pesky 
predators.

With the right marketing this could take off...

Cheers,
frank



--- Original Message ---

From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
Sent: February 19, 2013 2/19/13
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

From: Igor Roshchin
 Tue Feb 19 08:50:32 EST 2013
 John Sessoms wrote:

 From: Larry Colen
 On Feb 18, 2013, at 7:43 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote:

 I'm going to hijack your post in a slightly different direction.
 My sibling has been rather adamant about not posting photos of zir
 child in public places.  What do other people think about that
 attitude?

 I think that parents should have the right to say whether pictures of
 their kids can be posted.


 That sounds an awful lot like giving parents an absolute veto over
 what you can photograph. It's not very far from there to You can't take
 photographs here because there are children present.

 John,

 There are constitunational (or otherwise legal) right, and there is what
 is right (and/or ethical) with a kid.

I don't photograph kids until I have a signed contract and the parents
pay me a lot of money.

But if I am in a public location, going about my own business, it is
parents responsibility to keep their kids out of my way. It is *not*
their right to tell me I can't engage in my lawful occupation because
they cannot or will not control their spawn.

I've had problems before where I was working, somebody's kid intruded
into my frame  the parents hassled me about it.

I really don't like that.
 .


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Re: Happy with the K-5IIs

2013-02-20 Thread Darren Addy
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Tom Cakalic caka...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes we all like to justify our purchases, don't we?

True enough. But *not* all of us enjoy hanging around in a forums
whose purpose is to discussing the brand that we have (all but)
abandoned, for (apparently) the sole purpose of casting aspersions.

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Re: OT - Frequent Fracture Card

2013-02-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
Some people break, and some don't I've taken some horrible spills, including an 
incident that saw me catapulted a good ten feet in the air and landing on my 
hip, plus numerous falls on ice, but I've never broken anything. I think I'm 
just soft, rather than brittle.

Paul
On Feb 20, 2013, at 11:39 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

 aint broke anything in years (knock wood) myself -
 major ouches
 
 big hugs across the web to you..
 
 But you have a while to go before catching me - broken hand, foot, shoulder, 
 back , almost every toe and one twice. good that you don't need to be set, 
 that makes it easier to deal with.  ankle really much worse than any of mine 
 except the back and shoulder so I wince at yours.
 
 seriously, take care of yourself you skinny guys are always more damamged my 
 these things it seems.
 
 xo,
 ann
 
 On 2/20/2013 07:34, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's what they're giving me at St. Joe's Hospital here in Toronto. Third 
 visit in two years, second since September.
 
 We had a flash freeze yesterday after a thaw that covered the gutters and 
 bike lanes with standing water. The sudden drop in temps, of course, turned 
 it to ice. Worse was the gusting forty-to-sixty kilometre an hour winds. Got 
 smacked with a sudden sidewind while on black ice. Down I go.
 
 Broken ankle. But, a good break which should allow a walking cast/boot and 
 heal without complications.
 
 On my way to fracture clinic as we speak to be looked at by orthopaedic 
 surgeon and get fitted for aforementioned cast.
 
 If I am a walking/metropassing messenger for a while I will have more photo 
 ops!  ;-)
 
 As always, could have been worse.
 
 More on this later. Just wanted to share with friends (that's you guys!).  
 ;-)
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
 
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Re: OT - Frequent Fracture Card

2013-02-20 Thread Walter Hamler
Yep, I'm 70 and never had a broken bone of any kind other than rib
cartilage and nose cartilage. Now I hope saying it doesn't bring bad
luck!!! :-)
Heal fast!!

Walt

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Paul Stenquist
pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Some people break, and some don't I've taken some horrible spills, including 
 an incident that saw me catapulted a good ten feet in the air and landing on 
 my hip, plus numerous falls on ice, but I've never broken anything. I think 
 I'm just soft, rather than brittle.

 Paul
 On Feb 20, 2013, at 11:39 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

 aint broke anything in years (knock wood) myself -
 major ouches

 big hugs across the web to you..

 But you have a while to go before catching me - broken hand, foot, shoulder, 
 back , almost every toe and one twice. good that you don't need to be set, 
 that makes it easier to deal with.  ankle really much worse than any of mine 
 except the back and shoulder so I wince at yours.

 seriously, take care of yourself you skinny guys are always more damamged my 
 these things it seems.

 xo,
 ann

 On 2/20/2013 07:34, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's what they're giving me at St. Joe's Hospital here in Toronto. Third 
 visit in two years, second since September.

 We had a flash freeze yesterday after a thaw that covered the gutters and 
 bike lanes with standing water. The sudden drop in temps, of course, turned 
 it to ice. Worse was the gusting forty-to-sixty kilometre an hour winds. 
 Got smacked with a sudden sidewind while on black ice. Down I go.

 Broken ankle. But, a good break which should allow a walking cast/boot 
 and heal without complications.

 On my way to fracture clinic as we speak to be looked at by orthopaedic 
 surgeon and get fitted for aforementioned cast.

 If I am a walking/metropassing messenger for a while I will have more photo 
 ops!  ;-)

 As always, could have been worse.

 More on this later. Just wanted to share with friends (that's you guys!).  
 ;-)

 cheers,
 frank


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Re: March PUG - Please Read!!

2013-02-20 Thread Mark Roberts
Ann Sanfedele wrote:

On 2/19/2013 21:59, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Good to see you on the job again. I'll dig something up.

HAR! careful there - note that the topic for March is body parts

Perhaps I should ask Lisa if she can bring something home from work...
 
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Re: OT - Frequent Fracture Card

2013-02-20 Thread Larry Colen

 That's what they're giving me at St. Joe's Hospital here in Toronto. Third
 visit in two years, second since September.

Frank, you definitely need to find a new hobby.  Perhaps knitting yarn, or
chainmail rather than bones.

Chainmail wouldn't help for much besides roadrash, but maybe you should
track down your local SCA, and see if someone can make you some armor to
wear while riding your bike.


 We had a flash freeze yesterday after a thaw that covered the gutters and
 bike lanes with standing water. The sudden drop in temps, of course,
 turned it to ice. Worse was the gusting forty-to-sixty kilometre an hour
 winds. Got smacked with a sudden sidewind while on black ice. Down I go.

 Broken ankle. But, a good break which should allow a walking cast/boot
 and heal without complications.

You have on odd definition of a good break.  For me a good break would be
stopping by the store and finding that they have the K-5 IIs for half off.


 On my way to fracture clinic as we speak to be looked at by orthopaedic
 surgeon and get fitted for aforementioned cast.


 If I am a walking/metropassing messenger for a while I will have more
 photo ops!  ;-)

Next time, I suggest that you get in the cast of a play, rather than
getting to play in your cast.


 As always, could have been worse.

Yeah, you could have broken your camera.  Your ankle will heal.

I think that what we need to do is take up a collection to buy you a new
bike.  I know just the one, I saw a few of them in Singapore:
http://www.red4est.com/lrc/pix/bikepix/sidecar00.jpg

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Re: Happy with the K-5IIs

2013-02-20 Thread Tom C
Darren wrote:

True enough. But *not* all of us enjoy hanging around in a forums
whose purpose is to discussing the brand that we have (all but)
abandoned, for (apparently) the sole purpose of casting aspersions.

Surely you're not referring to me. What aspersion did I cast?

Abandon? Your phrasing has negative connotations Daren. 'All but
abandon' a brand implies somehow loyalty to a brand was an
expectation.

You however see fit to sit high and mighty and act as if you know and
understand people's motives for switching camera brands and arrogantly
assume that if they do move away from Pentax it must be because they
fell prey to a whim, and not for valid reasons. Why? Because you've
chosen Pentax and therefore your choice must be the best choice for
all?

I call bullshit on that,

Tom C.

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Re: ANyone use Posterous? Apparently it's shutting down

2013-02-20 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 2/17/2013 12:13 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

 On 17/2/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

 Looks like April 30 will be the last day for Posterous.

 http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57569726-93/posterous-the-tumblr-
 challenger-that-wasnt-shutting-down-april-30/

 That's a real poo!

 Do the cognoscenti know a decent alternative?


 Wix seems to be a pretty fair alternative:

 http://www.wix.com/

Wix isn't really comparable, Walt. It's more of a template-driven
auto-website-builder thingie. The idea is sound but it tends to crank
out sites with poor usability, especially since the whole thing is
done with Flash.

For everyone's sake and especially if you are concerned that half of
your potential traffic is mobile devices that don't do Flash well or
at all, I'd avoid both anything Flash..

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OT - Frequent Fracture Card

2013-02-20 Thread John Sessoms
Damn Frank! I hope you get frequent flyer miles or cash back at the end 
of the year.


... or maybe just get better soon.

From: knarftheriault

That's what they're giving me at St. Joe's Hospital here in Toronto.
Third visit in two years, second since September.

We had a flash freeze yesterday after a thaw that covered the gutters
and bike lanes with standing water. The sudden drop in temps, of
course, turned it to ice. Worse was the gusting forty-to-sixty
kilometre an hour winds. Got smacked with a sudden sidewind while on
black ice. Down I go.

Broken ankle. But, a good break which should allow a walking
cast/boot and heal without complications.

On my way to fracture clinic as we speak to be looked at by
orthopaedic surgeon and get fitted for aforementioned cast.

If I am a walking/metropassing messenger for a while I will have more
photo ops!  ;-)

As always, could have been worse.

More on this later. Just wanted to share with friends (that's you
guys!).  ;-)

cheers, frank


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Re: Happy with the K-5IIs

2013-02-20 Thread Larry Colen


 You however see fit to sit high and mighty and act as if you know and
 understand people's motives for switching camera brands and arrogantly
 assume that if they do move away from Pentax it must be because they
 fell prey to a whim, and not for valid reasons. Why? Because you've
 chosen Pentax and therefore your choice must be the best choice for
 all?


Geez you two. Would you knock it off already?

Why can't people learn that what works best for them doesn't work best for
everyone and that someone saying that A works better than B for me
doesn't mean You are a subsentient loser of questionable morals for
liking B better than A.

Now kiss and make up before we start mistaking you guys for some of the
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Happy with the K-5

2013-02-20 Thread Bipin Gupta
Hi Aahz, I am extremely happy with my K-5 + the DA 18-135 WR bought
from Henry's Toronto for CAD 1108 shipped. CAD is almost equal to USD.
I find it easier to push the Playback Button with the left thumb while
still holding the camera with both hands.
Also I have set the display time to 3 sec in the menu instead of the
default 1 sec
And in case I wish to close the display earlier, I just touch the
shutter button.
I have set the rear eDial to 8X zoom to see the sharpness of the photo
or the eye of a person.
I couldn't figure out what you meant by  I think I've figured out the
best way to do post-shot image review: immediately turn the back wheel
to zoom in during review. Please do clarify.
Regards.
Bipin - from that far away enchanting land.

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Lightroom on a VM?

2013-02-20 Thread Larry Colen
Has anyone on this list tried running LR4 on a windows 7 VM running on Xen
(or VMware) on a Linux system?

What sort of a performance hit do you take versus running it native?
Does it have access to multiple CPUs, or just one?


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RE: Happy with the K-5IIs

2013-02-20 Thread J.C. O'Connell
I would have zero interest in a K5ii or K5iis over a K5 because
I dont use AF and the AA filter just isnt that big a deal to me.

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 You however see fit to sit high and mighty and act as if you know and
 understand people's motives for switching camera brands and arrogantly
 assume that if they do move away from Pentax it must be because they
 fell prey to a whim, and not for valid reasons. Why? Because you've
 chosen Pentax and therefore your choice must be the best choice for
 all?


Geez you two. Would you knock it off already?

Why can't people learn that what works best for them doesn't work best for
everyone and that someone saying that A works better than B for me
doesn't mean You are a subsentient loser of questionable morals for
liking B better than A.

Now kiss and make up before we start mistaking you guys for some of the
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Re: Happy with the K-5IIs

2013-02-20 Thread John Sessoms

I've been looking at the D600 off  on. It doesn't appear to be the
camera for me ... YET.

For me, what the D600 really represents is a *MINIMUM* that Pentax has
to beat in a full-frame DSLR.

As far as the D600's sensor stain problems, if memory serves, the K-5
had problems with stains when it was first introduced  there was a lot
of dissatisfaction regarding what some perceived as Pentax's
lackadaisical response. Seems to me that at this point Nikon's response
is no better, no worse.


From: Tom Cakalic

From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com

Glad to hear you are happy with your K-5iis, Dario. Being disappointed
in a purchase is never any fun.

Found this post over on dpreview forum interesting. This guy went from
a Sony NEX-7 to a Nikon D600 to a Pentax K-5ii and he is *now* also
very happy.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50892332
Funny, when you find people on this forum feeling they need to move to
one of those two very cameras. I think that sometimes we just fall
prey to the need for something new and then rationalize the why after
the fact.


Keep telling yourself that. Just because you don't see the reason to
move or change doesn't mean there aren't valid reasons.

Just because this guy went the opposite direction doesn't mean much
either, other than that he must not have tried before he buyed
(bought). Otherwise why would he have not made the right choice for
him first time around?  I'm so stupid because I have a NEX-7 and a
D800. Next thing you know I'll sell my Subaru's and Toyota and get
Smart Cars.



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RE: OT - Frequent Fracture Card

2013-02-20 Thread Bob W
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 knarftheria...@gmail.com
 
 That's what they're giving me at St. Joe's Hospital here in Toronto.
 Third visit in two years, second since September.
 
[..]

Congratulations! ?

I imagine you're in a fairly high-risk profession for that sort of thing,
but have they also tested your bone density? 

When I broke my wrist a few years ago they gave me a Dexa scan because I had
surpassed a certain number of birthdays - routine for fractures when you're
ahem 50 or older. I did indeed have slightly low bone density. 

Certainly something to check as cycling tends to leach calcium, so
bone-strengthening activities such as jogging, squash and weight-lifting are
recommended. Also, stay off the carbonated drinks, and eat plenty of (I
know, you're a vegan) yoghourt.

B


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Re: Happy with the K-5IIs

2013-02-20 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:

 I understand that Larry. That's precisely why when someone comes
 around saying/implying that if one changes from brand A to brand B,
 that one was a non-thinker and therefore one must rationalize their
 choice after the fact, pisses me off.

Whereas if one does *not* change from brand A to brand B, it's because
one is a non-thinker who is mentally confined to a (dead) brand. Got
it.

 Stop thinking (like me) that because you've been mostly or 100%
 Pentax, that you're confined to a brand. That's not true!

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Re: PESO - Cold Hard Sun

2013-02-20 Thread Jack Davis
Gave me a chill to look at it. BRR
Effective and well done.
 
Jack

From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net 
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 9:33 AM
Subject: PESO - Cold Hard Sun

This was taken a few weeks ago on a ~very~ cold morning:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/02/cold-hard-sun.html

Comments always welcome.  Hope you enjoy.

cheers,
frank

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Re: Happy with the K-5IIs

2013-02-20 Thread Tom C
 Why can't people learn that what works best for them doesn't work best for
 everyone and that someone saying that A works better than B for me
 doesn't mean You are a subsentient loser of questionable morals for
 liking B better than A.

I understand that Larry. That's precisely why when someone comes
around saying/implying that if one changes from brand A to brand B,
that one was a non-thinker and therefore one must rationalize their
choice after the fact, pisses me off.

It not only assumes brand A is better than B, it assumes Brand A is
better than Brand B for me, and it assumes the person knows what's in
MY head. It's arrogant and condescending and the unwritten subtext is
'I'm more intelligent because of my choice and your less intelligent
because of yours'.

I find that offensive. Especially so because I know what's in my head
and it's a lot of snot!

Tom C.

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RE: K-5 grip glitch grinds...

2013-02-20 Thread Bob W
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Aahz Maruch
 
 On Wed, Feb 20, 2013, Paul Stenquist wrote:
  On Feb 20, 2013, at 1:53 AM, Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  To Paul and the other PDMLers who have wasted Server time and space
  in writing such gibberish. Typical Childish behavior. Sorry to
  mention this.  But this K-5 glitch was a serious topic and a good
  learning experience for all of us.
 
  nullum sensum humor
 
 Shouldn't that be humum?

'humum' would be from 'humus', which means ground, earth, land. The form
ending in -m (humum) is the accusative; what's needed here is the genitive
(possesive form), which is 'humi' in the singular, and 'humorum' in the
plural, meaning 'of the soil/s'.

It still wouldn't actually mean anything much, because 'nullum sensum' is
also in the accusative, so it's the object of the phrase, which has no
subject. Perhaps one could understand 'habet', meaning 'he has' no sense of
something, but sadly not 'humor' since that word doesn't appear to exist in
Latin, and the etymology of the English word takes you quite a long way from
its modern meaning.

You might be able to have instead, nullum sensum comoediae habet, or ludi
sensum non habet.

I hope you enjoyed that little lesson, especially young Bipin.

B


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Re: Happy with the K-5IIs

2013-02-20 Thread Tom C
 Whereas if one does *not* change from brand A to brand B, it's because
 one is a non-thinker who is mentally confined to a (dead) brand. Got
 it.

Your words not mine. That wasn't what I wrote or meant. You don't get
it Matthew. I was encouraging people to think beyond Pentax, I wasn't
implying they were non-thinkers.

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Re: March PUG - Please Read!!

2013-02-20 Thread Ann Sanfedele



On 2/20/2013 13:24, Mark Roberts wrote:

Ann Sanfedele wrote:


On 2/19/2013 21:59, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Good to see you on the job again. I'll dig something up.


HAR! careful there - note that the topic for March is body parts


Perhaps I should ask Lisa if she can bring something home from work...



Excellent idea!

ann

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Re: PESO: Hidden Waterfall

2013-02-20 Thread Ann Sanfedele

one of the things that make it worthwhile, clearly :-)

ann

On 2/20/2013 16:02, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

One of the sights on the infamous Road to Hana:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16938592
Comments and criticisms are always welcome.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola



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Re: Happy with the K-5IIs

2013-02-20 Thread Darren Addy
 That's precisely why when someone comes
 around saying/implying that if one changes from brand A to brand B,
 that one was a non-thinker and therefore one must rationalize their
 choice after the fact, pisses me off.

Speaking of words that were not mine, I said nothing regarding (or
even implying) non-thinking and I never said anything about
rationalizing after the fact. Those things were apparently all
between someone's ears. We all rationalize our purchases (gotta have
this, gotta have that). If we didn't nothing would ever be purchased.
That rationalizing generally takes place *before* we make our buying
decision. Depending upon the quality of our rationale/buying decision,
other rationalizations may follow.
: )

Some people are apparently very insecure about their rationales!
Apologies to them.

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Re: March PUG - Please Read!!

2013-02-20 Thread Larry Colen



 On 2/20/2013 13:24, Mark Roberts wrote:
 Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 On 2/19/2013 21:59, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Good to see you on the job again. I'll dig something up.

 HAR! careful there - note that the topic for March is body parts

 Perhaps I should ask Lisa if she can bring something home from work...


 Excellent idea!

I'm sure Mark could use all the help he can get to get organ-ized.


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RE: OT - Frequent Fracture Card

2013-02-20 Thread John Coyle
Once again - sorry to hear that, Frank!  You're an unlucky son-of-a-gun with 
accidents, let's hope
this is the last.


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia



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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of knarftheria...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, 20 February 2013 10:34 PM
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: OT - Frequent Fracture Card

That's what they're giving me at St. Joe's Hospital here in Toronto. Third 
visit in two years,
second since September.

We had a flash freeze yesterday after a thaw that covered the gutters and bike 
lanes with standing
water. The sudden drop in temps, of course, turned it to ice. Worse was the 
gusting forty-to-sixty
kilometre an hour winds. Got smacked with a sudden sidewind while on black ice. 
Down I go.

Broken ankle. But, a good break which should allow a walking cast/boot and 
heal without
complications.

On my way to fracture clinic as we speak to be looked at by orthopaedic surgeon 
and get fitted for
aforementioned cast.

If I am a walking/metropassing messenger for a while I will have more photo 
ops!  ;-)

As always, could have been worse.

More on this later. Just wanted to share with friends (that's you guys!).  ;-)

cheers,
frank


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Re: OT - Frequent Fracture Card

2013-02-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 I imagine you're in a fairly high-risk profession for that sort of thing,
 but have they also tested your bone density?

 When I broke my wrist a few years ago they gave me a Dexa scan because I had
 surpassed a certain number of birthdays - routine for fractures when you're
 ahem 50 or older. I did indeed have slightly low bone density.

 Certainly something to check as cycling tends to leach calcium, so
 bone-strengthening activities such as jogging, squash and weight-lifting are
 recommended. Also, stay off the carbonated drinks, and eat plenty of (I
 know, you're a vegan) yoghourt.

Yeeks, Bob! Something else to worry about now! Eating yoghourt is tough ... ]'-)

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Re: March PUG - Please Read!!

2013-02-20 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Walt ldott...@gmail.com:


Great to see you back in the fray and making progress, Brian!

I don't have the PUG submission page bookmarked, otherwise I'd go  
ahead and send my submission.


If someone can help me out with that, I'll submit ASAP.



Sorry - should have included the submit link in my original post.

Here ya go

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/


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Re: OT - Frequent Fracture Card

2013-02-20 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting knarftheria...@gmail.com:

That's what they're giving me at St. Joe's Hospital here in Toronto.  
Third visit in two years, second since September.


We had a flash freeze yesterday after a thaw that covered the  
gutters and bike lanes with standing water. The sudden drop in  
temps, of course, turned it to ice. Worse was the gusting  
forty-to-sixty kilometre an hour winds. Got smacked with a sudden  
sidewind while on black ice. Down I go.


Broken ankle. But, a good break which should allow a walking  
cast/boot and heal without complications.


On my way to fracture clinic as we speak to be looked at by  
orthopaedic surgeon and get fitted for aforementioned cast.


If I am a walking/metropassing messenger for a while I will have  
more photo ops!  ;-)


As always, could have been worse.

More on this later. Just wanted to share with friends (that's you  
guys!).  ;-)





Holy handlebars, Frank!  I always thought bicycles were dangerous.

Heal well and quickly.

(does the card entitle you to a free bone setting after a certain  
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Re: PAW163 - Winter sky

2013-02-20 Thread DagT
Great comment, I see what you mean :-)

Thanks!

Dag Thrane
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20. feb. 2013 kl. 17:41 skrev Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com:

 Truly beautiful art as usual, but this time I have an urge to to put a 
 greeting card message across that sky.
 
 pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 19, 2013, DagT wrote:
 
 http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
 Pentax K-5, DA*16-50mm@36mm, f/11, 1/125s, ISO100.
 


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Re: Happy with the K-5IIs

2013-02-20 Thread Tom C
 From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com

 That's precisely why when someone comes
 around saying/implying that if one changes from brand A to brand B,
 that one was a non-thinker and therefore one must rationalize their
 choice after the fact, pisses me off.

 Speaking of words that were not mine, I said nothing regarding (or
 even implying) non-thinking and I never said anything about
 rationalizing after the fact. Those things were apparently all
 between someone's ears. We all rationalize our purchases (gotta have
 this, gotta have that). If we didn't nothing would ever be purchased.
 That rationalizing generally takes place *before* we make our buying
 decision. Depending upon the quality of our rationale/buying decision,
 other rationalizations may follow.
 : )

 Some people are apparently very insecure about their rationales!
 Apologies to them.

Then please parse your words for me:

Funny, when you find people on this forum feeling they need to move to
one of those two very cameras. I think that sometimes we just fall
prey to the need for something new and then rationalize the why after
the fact. But as long as you have the money and are happy with the
decision afterwards, more power to you.

Rationalizing after the fact can somewhat imply that a rational
thought (thinking) process did not occur earlier. As long as you're
not painting me with your wide brush of generalization I'm fine.

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Re: March PUG - Please Read!!

2013-02-20 Thread Walt

On 2/20/2013 4:17 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting Walt ldott...@gmail.com:


Great to see you back in the fray and making progress, Brian!

I don't have the PUG submission page bookmarked, otherwise I'd go 
ahead and send my submission.


If someone can help me out with that, I'll submit ASAP.



Sorry - should have included the submit link in my original post.

Here ya go

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/



Thanks, Brian.

Ann Helped me out with it, too.

I'll cut you some slack . . . this time. ;)

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Re: k-5 grip glitch grinds...

2013-02-20 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:03:20PM -0500, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
 On Feb 19, 2013, at 9:50 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 
  From: Bruce Walker
  On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Christine Nielsench...@inielsen.net  
  wrote:
  
  On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:11 AM, Bob Wp...@web-options.com  wrote:
  From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Christine
  Nielsen
  
  Here's an odd thing that happened to me today...
  
  [...]
  
  In other news, I bought a k-01 today.  (Before all the other stuff
  happened.)
  
  
  post hoc ergo propter hoc
  
  ... caveat emptor...
  In latin, truthiness.
  
  --
  -bmw
   I have no help for Christine
   but
  
  in vino est veritas
  
  Illegitimus non carborundum
 
 Sarcina stercoris

Phalacrocorax aristotelis


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RE: OT - Frequent Fracture Card

2013-02-20 Thread Bob W
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi
[...]
 
  Certainly something to check as cycling tends to leach calcium, so
  bone-strengthening activities such as jogging, squash and
  weight-lifting are recommended. Also, stay off the carbonated drinks,
  and eat plenty of (I know, you're a vegan) yoghourt.
 
 Yeeks, Bob! Something else to worry about now! Eating yoghourt is tough
 ... ]'-)
 

Greek yoghourt is really nice, especially with Greek honey. I put it on
breakfast cereal or in porridge, as well as eating it as is.

http://www.fageusa.com/products/fage-total-2-percent/

Paradoxically, eating dairy products also helps eliminate fat from your
body:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15090625

Increasing dietary calcium significantly augmented weight and fat loss
secondary to caloric restriction and increased the percentage of fat lost
from the trunk region, whereas dairy products exerted a substantially
greater effect.

B



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RE: k-5 grip glitch grinds...

2013-02-20 Thread Bob W
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Francis
  
   Here's an odd thing that happened to me today...
  
   [...]
  
   In other news, I bought a k-01 today.  (Before all the
 other
   stuff
   happened.)
  
  
   post hoc ergo propter hoc
  
   ... caveat emptor...
   In latin, truthiness.
  
   --
   -bmw
I have no help for Christine
but
  
   in vino est veritas
  
   Illegitimus non carborundum
 
  Sarcina stercoris
 
 Phalacrocorax aristotelis
 

pulcherrimae plumae!

B


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Re: k-5 grip glitch grinds...

2013-02-20 Thread Christine Aguila


On Feb 20, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Francis
 
 Here's an odd thing that happened to me today...
 [...]
 
 In other news, I bought a k-01 today.  (Before all the
 other
 stuff
 happened.)
 
 post hoc ergo propter hoc
 
 ... caveat emptor...
 In latin, truthiness.
 
 --
 -bmw
 I have no help for Christine
 but
 
 in vino est veritas
 
 Illegitimus non carborundum
 
 Sarcina stercoris
 
 Phalacrocorax aristotelis
 
 pulcherrimae plumae!

Aguila non copit murem

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RE: k-5 grip glitch grinds...

2013-02-20 Thread Bob W
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Christine Aguila
 
 
 
 On Feb 20, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 
  From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Francis
 
  Here's an odd thing that happened to me today...
  [...]
 
  In other news, I bought a k-01 today.  (Before all the
  other
  stuff
  happened.)
 
  post hoc ergo propter hoc
 
  ... caveat emptor...
  In latin, truthiness.
 
  --
  -bmw
  I have no help for Christine
  but
 
  in vino est veritas
 
  Illegitimus non carborundum
 
  Sarcina stercoris
 
  Phalacrocorax aristotelis
 
  pulcherrimae plumae!
 
 Aguila non copit murem
 

sed aquila nec PDMLorum avis est honor qui phalacrocoracis proprium est


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Re: PESO - Cold Hard Sun

2013-02-20 Thread Don Guthrie
Yep a cold chill runs thru me now. Course it is about 5 f about now with 
6- 8 inches of snow forecast for thurs. Anyway very nice photo.
Being laid up permits time to go thru the archive and look for hidden 
gems hey?
If the theme on PUG this month is body parts, maybe you could submit 
your x-rays.


pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

Message: 2
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 12:33:13 -0500
From: frank theriaultknarftheria...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail ListPDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - Cold Hard Sun
Message-ID:
CALoSNQ+By1Q=HdJKmBw36qMXyThccjKW2=nyuq4syfra6nt...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

This was taken a few weeks ago on a ~very~ cold morning:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/02/cold-hard-sun.html

Comments always welcome.  Hope you enjoy.

cheers,
frank

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OT - Digital Rev Makes Amends for Supplying 'Used' Camera

2013-02-20 Thread Steve Cottrell
http://www.prettyinwhite.com/digital-rev-hey-thats-my-camera/

An interesting read!

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Re: Happy with the K-5IIs

2013-02-20 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 20/2/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

Now kiss and make up before we start mistaking you guys for some of the
crankier people on this list.

Like me.

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Re: k-5 grip glitch grinds...

2013-02-20 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 20/2/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

sed aquila nec PDMLorum avis est honor qui phalacrocoracis proprium est

Fecking mad, the lorra yous

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Re: Happy with the K-5IIs

2013-02-20 Thread Larry Colen

 On 20/2/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

Now kiss and make up before we start mistaking you guys for some of the
crankier people on this list.

 Like me.

Like you? I'm a wink and one of your coquettish smiles from a full on crush.


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Re: OT - Frequent Fracture Card

2013-02-20 Thread lrc


Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

Quoting knarftheria...@gmail.com:

 That's what they're giving me at St. Joe's Hospital here in Toronto. 

 Third visit in two years, second since September.

 We had a flash freeze yesterday after a thaw that covered the  
 gutters and bike lanes with standing water. The sudden drop in  
 temps, of course, turned it to ice. Worse was the gusting  
 forty-to-sixty kilometre an hour winds. Got smacked with a sudden  
 sidewind while on black ice. Down I go.

 Broken ankle. But, a good break which should allow a walking  
 cast/boot and heal without complications.

 On my way to fracture clinic as we speak to be looked at by  
 orthopaedic surgeon and get fitted for aforementioned cast.

 If I am a walking/metropassing messenger for a while I will have  
 more photo ops!  ;-)

 As always, could have been worse.

 More on this later. Just wanted to share with friends (that's you  
 guys!).  ;-)



Holy handlebars, Frank!  I always thought bicycles were dangerous.

Heal well and quickly.

(does the card entitle you to a free bone setting after a certain  
number of breaks?)


Better yet.  He gets his own personal physician to sleep with.
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Re: K-5 grip glitch grinds...

2013-02-20 Thread Mark C

On 2/20/2013 7:35 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

Res ipsa loquitor.



Ixnay with the Atinlay?

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Re: OT - Frequent Fracture Card

2013-02-20 Thread steve harley

on 2013-02-20 5:34 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote

Got smacked with a sudden sidewind while on black ice. Down I go.


it couldn't have happened to a finer fellow

seriously, i wish you speedy healing




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Re: k-5 grip glitch grinds...

2013-02-20 Thread Christine Aguila


On Feb 20, 2013, at 5:08 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Christine Aguila
 
 
 
 On Feb 20, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Francis
 
 Here's an odd thing that happened to me today...
 [...]
 
 In other news, I bought a k-01 today.  (Before all the
 other
 stuff
 happened.)
 
 post hoc ergo propter hoc
 
 ... caveat emptor...
 In latin, truthiness.
 
 --
 -bmw
 I have no help for Christine
 but
 
 in vino est veritas
 
 Illegitimus non carborundum
 
 Sarcina stercoris
 
 Phalacrocorax aristotelis
 
 pulcherrimae plumae!
 
 Aguila non copit murem
 
 sed aquila nec PDMLorum avis est honor qui phalacrocoracis proprium est

castigat ridendo mores


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Re: March PUG - Please Read!!

2013-02-20 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen wrote:

 On 2/20/2013 13:24, Mark Roberts wrote:
 Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 On 2/19/2013 21:59, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Good to see you on the job again. I'll dig something up.

 HAR! careful there - note that the topic for March is body parts

 Perhaps I should ask Lisa if she can bring something home from work...

 Excellent idea!

I'm sure Mark could use all the help he can get to get organ-ized.

...without going out on a limb.
 
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Re: March PUG - Please Read!!

2013-02-20 Thread Ann Sanfedele



On 2/20/2013 18:56, Mark Roberts wrote:

Larry Colen wrote:


On 2/20/2013 13:24, Mark Roberts wrote:

Ann Sanfedele wrote:


On 2/19/2013 21:59, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Good to see you on the job again. I'll dig something up.


HAR! careful there - note that the topic for March is body parts


Perhaps I should ask Lisa if she can bring something home from work...


Excellent idea!


I'm sure Mark could use all the help he can get to get organ-ized.


...without going out on a limb.



who nose?


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Re: k-5 grip glitch grinds...

2013-02-20 Thread Brian Walters


Quoting Bob W p...@web-options.com:


From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Christine Aguila



On Feb 20, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Francis

 Here's an odd thing that happened to me today...
 [...]

 In other news, I bought a k-01 today.  (Before all the
 other
 stuff
 happened.)

 post hoc ergo propter hoc

 ... caveat emptor...
 In latin, truthiness.

 --
 -bmw
 I have no help for Christine
 but

 in vino est veritas

 Illegitimus non carborundum

 Sarcina stercoris

 Phalacrocorax aristotelis

 pulcherrimae plumae!

Aguila non copit murem



sed aquila nec PDMLorum avis est honor qui phalacrocoracis proprium est



I wish now that I'd paid more attention to my Latin master at high  
school (although I suspect even he would have trouble with some of  
what's being served up here)




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Re: March PUG - Please Read!!

2013-02-20 Thread Brian Walters


Quoting Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com:


On 2/20/2013 18:56, Mark Roberts wrote:

Larry Colen wrote:


On 2/20/2013 13:24, Mark Roberts wrote:

Ann Sanfedele wrote:


On 2/19/2013 21:59, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Good to see you on the job again. I'll dig something up.


HAR! careful there - note that the topic for March is body parts


Perhaps I should ask Lisa if she can bring something home from work...


Excellent idea!


I'm sure Mark could use all the help he can get to get organ-ized.


...without going out on a limb.



who nose?



...and here we go again!

Do we really kneed another pun thread?


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Re: March PUG - Please Read!!

2013-02-20 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 On 2/20/2013 18:56, Mark Roberts wrote:
 Larry Colen wrote:
 On 2/20/2013 13:24, Mark Roberts wrote:
 Ann Sanfedele wrote:
 On 2/19/2013 21:59, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 Good to see you on the job again. I'll dig something up.

 HAR! careful there - note that the topic for March is body parts

 Perhaps I should ask Lisa if she can bring something home from work...

 Excellent idea!

 I'm sure Mark could use all the help he can get to get organ-ized.

 ...without going out on a limb.

 who nose?

I could use a leg-up myself.

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Re: k-5 grip glitch grinds...

2013-02-20 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:

 On Feb 20, 2013, at 5:08 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Christine Aguila

 On Feb 20, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Francis

 Here's an odd thing that happened to me today...
 [...]

 In other news, I bought a k-01 today.  (Before all the
 other
 stuff
 happened.)

 post hoc ergo propter hoc

 ... caveat emptor...
 In latin, truthiness.

 --
 -bmw
 I have no help for Christine
 but

 in vino est veritas

 Illegitimus non carborundum

 Sarcina stercoris

 Phalacrocorax aristotelis

 pulcherrimae plumae!

 Aguila non copit murem

 sed aquila nec PDMLorum avis est honor qui phalacrocoracis proprium est

 castigat ridendo mores

Bachata merengue danza plena

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Re: K-01 now on the official discontinued model page

2013-02-20 Thread Mark C
I have no regrets at all regarding purchase of the K-01. When it first 
was announced I contemplated getting one and replacing my K-7 with it. 
The K-7 is just a backup for my K-5, and sees virtually no use. I am 
beginning to think that the k-01 could fill the backup role *and* 
provide value by being the go-to camera for macro work. It certianly 
will be the main camera I use for snow flakes and I am sure it will be 
outstanding for spring wildflowers. (Yea! No more mud on the face from  
scrunching my eye to the finder on a camera mounted at ground level!) 
What remains to be seen for me is if the K-01 will work with insects. I 
can't wait to test that out, but that will be a few months off.


For general shooting, the K-01 seems to be fine, but I have not tried to 
use it outdoors in the bright sun.


I would, however, say that if a DSLR body had live view that supported 
focus peaking, I would have no need at all for the K-01, though even 
then the price might tempt.


- Mark

On 2/20/2013 10:55 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

http://www.pentax.jp/english/products/others.html

BH still has the bodies in your choice of colors for $299. Get one
with the DA40 for an extra $60.




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Re: Unnessary Advirory

2013-02-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I did a similar thing a while back, Jack.  I removed some I should not
have submitted, and I replaced some with better versions of the same,
or a very similar, image.  However, I submitted the new improved
version first, and only when it was accepted did I remove the original
submission.  G

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On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I just finished removing 28 images from my PPG. Actually felt good.
 They were images that I felt were a stretch and offered in the interest of 
 quantity. I know, I could have removed a lot more..OK ;-)

 I removed another 7, and of those, 5 (max allowed per week) have been 
 re-worked and re-offered. The last 2 to be saved 'til 2/27

 So, while voting, if you notice a familiar image, this is why.

 Jack.

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Re: PESO: Hidden Waterfall

2013-02-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Yes, there are a number of nice waterfalls on the way to Hana, then
even nicer ones in the National Park, that can be reached by walking
30-45 minutes.  Some of the best ones require a much longer hike,
however, but unfortunately I didn't have the time for that this time
around.

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On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 one of the things that make it worthwhile, clearly :-)

 ann


 On 2/20/2013 16:02, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 One of the sights on the infamous Road to Hana:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16938592
 Comments and criticisms are always welcome.
 Dan Matyola
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Re: Happy with the K-5IIs

2013-02-20 Thread Mark C
Thanks for that summary. It seems clear that the K-5IIs is a step up. 
While I don't do much AF shooting in low light I do shoot with lots of 
extension at times, and I assume the that low light focusing would apply 
to a macro lens with a bunch of tubes on it just as well to a genuine 
low light scene. The K-5 is a great camera and I amd glad that Pentax 
Ricoh decided to upgrade it. In a sense they are showing off improved 
technology that we will see in future cameras and they are also making a 
statement that they are still in the game. RIght now, I'm holding off on 
acquiisitions in hope that a FF body comes along. If I were to know that 
it will be a while I might go for one.


Mark

On 2/20/2013 3:08 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:
Yes, I know there is not so much difference overall, compared to the 
plain K-5, but the improvements in AF (both its precision with 
tungsten light and its much extended sensitivity to low light) make a 
huge difference for me and the kind of pics I shoot.


As per the difference between K-5II and K-5IIs, in most cases the 
sharpness is the same (other factors such as minimal motion blur and 
subtle difference in focusing being more important than AA filter or 
not). However, when all winds blow in favor, the difference is more 
than noticeable.


Moiré? After 3,000 shots with the K-5IIs, I spotted it only twice. One 
was a grid of an air conditioner (lost in the distance on a balcony 
within a cityscape) and another one was a fabric in a still life I 
setup on purpose to generate moiré. Not a big problem for me.


This I wanted to share before sinking into lurk mode because I am late 
with deadlines at work.


Cheers,

Dario




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Re: K-01 now on the official discontinued model page

2013-02-20 Thread lrc
Interesting point. I wonder how much I could get for my K-x?

Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:

I have no regrets at all regarding purchase of the K-01. When it first 
was announced I contemplated getting one and replacing my K-7 with it. 
The K-7 is just a backup for my K-5, and sees virtually no use. I am 
beginning to think that the k-01 could fill the backup role *and* 
provide value by being the go-to camera for macro work. It certianly 
will be the main camera I use for snow flakes and I am sure it will be 
outstanding for spring wildflowers. (Yea! No more mud on the face from 

scrunching my eye to the finder on a camera mounted at ground level!) 
What remains to be seen for me is if the K-01 will work with insects. I

can't wait to test that out, but that will be a few months off.

For general shooting, the K-01 seems to be fine, but I have not tried
to 
use it outdoors in the bright sun.

I would, however, say that if a DSLR body had live view that supported 
focus peaking, I would have no need at all for the K-01, though even 
then the price might tempt.

- Mark

On 2/20/2013 10:55 AM, Darren Addy wrote:
 http://www.pentax.jp/english/products/others.html

 BH still has the bodies in your choice of colors for $299. Get one
 with the DA40 for an extra $60.


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Re: March PUG - Please Read!!

2013-02-20 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Feb 20, 2013, at 7:10 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 On 2/20/2013 18:56, Mark Roberts wrote:
 Larry Colen wrote:
 On 2/20/2013 13:24, Mark Roberts wrote:
 Ann Sanfedele wrote:
 On 2/19/2013 21:59, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
 Good to see you on the job again. I'll dig something up.
 
 HAR! careful there - note that the topic for March is body parts
 
 Perhaps I should ask Lisa if she can bring something home from work...
 
 Excellent idea!
 
 I'm sure Mark could use all the help he can get to get organ-ized.
 
 ...without going out on a limb.
 
 who nose?
 
 I could use a leg-up myself.

I didn't have the heart to create the image I had hoped to produce.
 
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Re: Unnessary Advirory

2013-02-20 Thread Jack Davis
I, also, considered doing that, Dan, but feel they only deserve being a part of 
the PPG if validated upon re-submission.


Jack

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Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: Unnessary Advirory

I did a similar thing a while back, Jack.  I removed some I should not
have submitted, and I replaced some with better versions of the same,
or a very similar, image.  However, I submitted the new improved
version first, and only when it was accepted did I remove the original
submission.  G

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I just finished removing 28 images from my PPG. Actually felt good.
 They were images that I felt were a stretch and offered in the interest of 
 quantity. I know, I could have removed a lot more..OK ;-)

 I removed another 7, and of those, 5 (max allowed per week) have been 
 re-worked and re-offered. The last 2 to be saved 'til 2/27

 So, while voting, if you notice a familiar image, this is why.

 Jack.

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Re: March PUG - Please Read!!

2013-02-20 Thread steve harley

on 2013-02-19 18:12 Brian Walters wrote

Once again, many thanks to Bill for stepping up for January and February at
short notice.


thanks to both of you!



* When entering details on the submission form, it would help if you use
correct capitalisation for names, image title, etc.  eg. if your name is Joe
Blogs, enter it as Joe Bloggs and not joe bloggs.


no need to recapitalize mine, i submit it as it should be

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Windows 8 is Horseshit.

2013-02-20 Thread Bill

OK, so I got that out of the way.
I just bought my wife a new laptop, which unfortunately came with Win 8 
installed. To say it licks donkey balls is being both kind to it, and 
unkind to donkey balls lickers, who are not so bad when compared to 
Windows 8.
It is a crap spewing, drowning us in chunky wet vomit, puerile, golden 
shower of an operating system.
I just cannot say enough bad about Windows 8 to get my point across 
about just what an abomination it is, and those of you who have been on 
this list for more than a bakers dozen years are well aware of just how 
much bad stuff I can say about things that annoy me.

I must get rid of it, and soon.

Help me.

bill

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Re: Windows 8 is Horseshit.

2013-02-20 Thread Walt

On 2/20/2013 8:15 PM, Bill wrote:

OK, so I got that out of the way.
I just bought my wife a new laptop, which unfortunately came with Win 
8 installed. To say it licks donkey balls is being both kind to it, 
and unkind to donkey balls lickers, who are not so bad when compared 
to Windows 8.
It is a crap spewing, drowning us in chunky wet vomit, puerile, golden 
shower of an operating system.
I just cannot say enough bad about Windows 8 to get my point across 
about just what an abomination it is, and those of you who have been 
on this list for more than a bakers dozen years are well aware of just 
how much bad stuff I can say about things that annoy me.

I must get rid of it, and soon.

Help me.

bill

Untold millions share your pain. FWIW, here's what I did for the new 
desktop at work:


http://www.classicshell.net/

-- Walt

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Re: Happy with the K-5

2013-02-20 Thread steve harley

on 2013-02-20 12:31 Bipin Gupta wrote

I couldn't figure out what you meant by  I think I've figured out the
best way to do post-shot image review: immediately turn the back wheel
to zoom in during review. Please do clarify.


i do this too on my K-5, and on my K200d; Aahz means that you if you zoom into 
the image with the rear wheel while the preview for your last shot is still on 
the display (within 3 seconds, or whatever delay you have set), it will keep 
the preview from disappearing




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