Re: Man near Brown Line

[Philip Northeast]

You captured the moment - but where  is the brown line?

Philip Northeast

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On 24/05/13 3:02 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Thanks Dan & Darren and everyone else for the generous comments.  I find the 
shot interesting, but not perfect :-)  Cheers, Christine




On May 22, 2013, at 9:53 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:


You caught a great expression on his face, and I think the composition
is strong.

Dan Matyola
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On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Christine Aguila
 wrote:

A curious man.  He used the piece of cardboard to sweep litter, then he'd rest 
and seemingly contemplate his next move.  I suppose it's unfortunate the black 
van is behind him, but traffic was heavy, and the passing cars might have 
proved a greater distraction.  Perhaps the black van simplifies the background 
as opposed to traffic congestion in the background?  I got a little lucky with 
the set of 3 men.  Once I took this shot, the curious man knew what was up and 
turned his back towards me.  Fair enough I thought and went about my business.

http://www.caguila.com/manbrownline/content/_IGP5999_large.html

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Re: OT - Do I Need to be Excited?

[Steve Cottrell]

On 23/5/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Look at that image on DP Review. Put price tags above each of the
>three cameras that are currently available. Extrapolate the likely
>price of the one that's coming in June. Consult bank balance.

I love it when life is so simple! A thousand thankyous xxx

I've extrapolated and consulted and the bad news is, as a favourite
Canadian likes to say, I'm screwed.

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Re: GESO - Pentax Q - too qute

[Christine Aguila]

Well, 6 of 16 is a curious shot--well, curious lighting.  :-)  The Q looks like 
fun!  Cheers, Christine


On May 20, 2013, at 4:05 PM, Derby Chang  wrote:

> 
> On 15/05/2013 5:00 PM, Bob W wrote:
>> On 15 May 2013, at 00:54, Aahz Maruch  wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sat, May 11, 2013, Derby Chang wrote:
 Only two quibbles. Battery life is qrap. My only battery lasted
 2hrs, which ended proceedings quickly. And the Q needs a fast wide
 lens. Otherwise, I am a happy chappy. Ergonomics superb, great
 little sensor, and so darned qute
 
 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/05/pentaxq/index.html
>>> What's that on top of the Q?
>> 
>> Babedar
>> 
>> B
>> 
> 
> Har.
> 
> The finder is the one from the Pentax 43mm in Leica screw mount. It goes well 
> with it I think
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Re: Milwaukee mini-PDML meetup (GESO)

[Christine Aguila]

Big congrats, Paul!  Would have liked to see your exhibition.

And a very nice set of snaps, Stan.  I'll catch up with you guys next time.  
Cheers, Christine



On May 22, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Stan Halpin  wrote:

> You've already seen some of Paul's shots from the weekend, and there was a 
> bit of discussion. I'll offer a recap and links to a few of my own images . . 
> .
> 
> In late winter, Paul Sorenson alerted the list to an exhibit at the Milwaukee 
> Art Museum (MAM), said exhibit to portray and discuss 75 years of color 
> photography. A handful of us indicated that we might be interested in  
> meeting up to tour the MAM Color Rush exhibit. Paul reminded us of the event 
> a couple of months later; ensuing calendar calibration and cross-check led 
> eventually to a decision to meet in Milwaukee Saturday-Sunday May 18-19. This 
> was changed late last week to Friday-Saturday May 17-18, proving that all 
> involved can be decisive yet flexible and adaptive.
> 
> I drove to Chicago Thursday, linking up with Lynn and Bob Sullivan at their 
> home for a quick supper, and then accompanied Bob to the last session of a 
> photo class he has been taking. 
> 
> Friday the Sullivan's and I drove separately up to Milwaukee through driving 
> rain, heavy traffic, and occasional road construction. We eventually found 
> our separate ways to the MAM where we met Paul and Marcia. A leisurely stroll 
> through the Color Rush exhibit and gift shop, lunch in the museum café, some 
> wandering about outside (not raining, but cold and windy) trying to capture 
> the impressive architecture of the new part of the museum, back inside for 
> coffee. We then drove to the Mitchell Park Domes, three interconnected 
> distinct indoor environments for displaying plant collections. We walked 
> through the Show Dome, the Arid Dome and the Tropical Dome. We were then 
> politely but firmly told to get out so that the staff could close up for the 
> evening. After stops to check in to motels, etc. we regrouped and Paul and 
> Marcia guided us to a fine restaurant out in the country to the west of 
> Milwaukee.
> 
> Saturday morning our first stop was at the New Berlin Public library -- Paul 
> had let slip that he had a collection of his photos on exhibit there, and the 
> Sullivan's and I were determined to check it out. A nice exhibit, a nice 
> collection of images. Then onward to an area Botanical Garden. We spent into 
> the early afternoon at the gardens, wandering, photographing, and sitting and 
> talking. We then adjourned to a nearby sandwich shop for food and more talk. 
> Mid-afternoon we went our separate ways: Sullivan's back to the Chicago area, 
> and Sorenson's back home in the Milwaukee area. I headed north to start the 
> second portion of my around-Lake-Michigan road trip.
> 
> Paul with his exhibit: 
> http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/h6ad9477f#h6ad9477f
> 
> Overall link to my galleries covering the weekend: 
> http://photos.stanhalpin.com/f282004109
> 
> Or go directly to:
>   Art Museum shots - http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p223223078
>   Dome shots - http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p176236337
>   Botanical garden - http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p400560721
> 
> As I said earlier today, 'twas a good time spent with good people.
> 
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> 
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Re: Man near Brown Line

[Christine Aguila]

Thanks Dan & Darren and everyone else for the generous comments.  I find the 
shot interesting, but not perfect :-)  Cheers, Christine




On May 22, 2013, at 9:53 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

> You caught a great expression on his face, and I think the composition
> is strong.
> 
> Dan Matyola
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> 
> 
> On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Christine Aguila
>  wrote:
>> A curious man.  He used the piece of cardboard to sweep litter, then he'd 
>> rest and seemingly contemplate his next move.  I suppose it's unfortunate 
>> the black van is behind him, but traffic was heavy, and the passing cars 
>> might have proved a greater distraction.  Perhaps the black van simplifies 
>> the background as opposed to traffic congestion in the background?  I got a 
>> little lucky with the set of 3 men.  Once I took this shot, the curious man 
>> knew what was up and turned his back towards me.  Fair enough I thought and 
>> went about my business.
>> 
>> http://www.caguila.com/manbrownline/content/_IGP5999_large.html
>> 
>> Cheers, Christine
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Re: PESO: I'm a Grand-Dad again

[Christine Aguila]

Big congrats, Charles!  Best to mom and family!  Cheers, Christine



On May 23, 2013, at 4:07 PM, Charles Robinson  wrote:

> My daughter started really feeling it around 2a.m., and we got the call at 
> about 4 to come over.
> 
> By 8:36 she was all done!  Nice work.
> 
> Here he is, less than 20 minutes old:
> 
> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/arthur_birthday/content/K5__2447_large.html
> 
> Feel free to browse the rest of the shots if you care.. 
> 
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Re: PESO: Goat Girl

[Larry Colen]

On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 09:50:32PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> Loving the goats in the barn at the school farm last weekend. . ISO 6400, 
> f3.5 @ 1/400, K-5 DA8 16-50 @ 19mm. It's a bit noisier than it might have 
> been had I added some exposure comp in camera. Had to push it up .7 stop in 
> conversion and tweak curves due to minimal foreground light. But pretty good 
> low light performance from the K-5 in spite of some photographer error.
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17367494

No kidding!  That's a great shot.



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Re: PESO: Goat Girl

[Ann Sanfedele]

aw
I do love goats :-)
cute!
ann

On 5/23/2013 21:50, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Loving the goats in the barn at the school farm last weekend. . ISO 6400, f3.5 
@ 1/400, K-5 DA8 16-50 @ 19mm. It's a bit noisier than it might have been had I 
added some exposure comp in camera. Had to push it up .7 stop in conversion and 
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performance from the K-5 in spite of some photographer error.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17367494



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Re: I'm a Grand-Dad again

[kwaller]

Congratulations!

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Charles Robinson" 

Subject: PESO: I'm a Grand-Dad again


My daughter started really feeling it around 2a.m., and we got the call at 
about 4 to come over.


By 8:36 she was all done!  Nice work.

Here he is, less than 20 minutes old:

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/arthur_birthday/content/K5__2447_large.html

Feel free to browse the rest of the shots if you care..

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Re: PESO: I'm a Grand-Dad again

[Boris Liberman]

Congratulations!

On 5/24/2013 12:07 AM, Charles Robinson wrote:

My daughter started really feeling it around 2a.m., and we got the call at 
about 4 to come over.

By 8:36 she was all done!  Nice work.

Here he is, less than 20 minutes old:

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/arthur_birthday/content/K5__2447_large.html

Feel free to browse the rest of the shots if you care..

  -Charles

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Re: PESO: Rough Rider

[Kenneth Waller]

Paul, she' sure growing up fast!
Nice capture.


-Original Message-
>From: Paul Stenquist 
>Subject: PESO: Rough Rider
>
>Riding on a hay wagon at the school farm. We were on an extremely bumpy dirt 
>road, and the wagon was bouncing pretty violently, so I had to shoot at ISO 
>800 to get enough shutter speed. f2.8 @ 1/5000th. K-5 DA* 16-50:
>
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17367532&size=lg



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Re: PESO: Goat Girl

[Daniel J. Matyola]

another good one!

Dan Matyola
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On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Loving the goats in the barn at the school farm last weekend. . ISO 6400, 
> f3.5 @ 1/400, K-5 DA8 16-50 @ 19mm. It's a bit noisier than it might have 
> been had I added some exposure comp in camera. Had to push it up .7 stop in 
> conversion and tweak curves due to minimal foreground light. But pretty good 
> low light performance from the K-5 in spite of some photographer error.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17367494
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Re: PESO: Rough Rider

[Daniel J. Matyola]

She is as cute as ever, and that is a great portrait.

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On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Riding on a hay wagon at the school farm. We were on an extremely bumpy dirt 
> road, and the wagon was bouncing pretty violently, so I had to shoot at ISO 
> 800 to get enough shutter speed. f2.8 @ 1/5000th. K-5 DA* 16-50:
>
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Re: PESO: I'm a Grand-Dad again

[Paul Stenquist]

Looks like a keeper! Well done.
Paul
On May 23, 2013, at 5:07 PM, Charles Robinson  wrote:

> My daughter started really feeling it around 2a.m., and we got the call at 
> about 4 to come over.
> 
> By 8:36 she was all done!  Nice work.
> 
> Here he is, less than 20 minutes old:
> 
> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/arthur_birthday/content/K5__2447_large.html
> 
> Feel free to browse the rest of the shots if you care.. 
> 
> -Charles
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PESO: Rough Rider

[Paul Stenquist]

Riding on a hay wagon at the school farm. We were on an extremely bumpy dirt 
road, and the wagon was bouncing pretty violently, so I had to shoot at ISO 800 
to get enough shutter speed. f2.8 @ 1/5000th. K-5 DA* 16-50:

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PESO: Goat Girl

[Paul Stenquist]

Loving the goats in the barn at the school farm last weekend. . ISO 6400, f3.5 
@ 1/400, K-5 DA8 16-50 @ 19mm. It's a bit noisier than it might have been had I 
added some exposure comp in camera. Had to push it up .7 stop in conversion and 
tweak curves due to minimal foreground light. But pretty good low light 
performance from the K-5 in spite of some photographer error.

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Re: OT Photoshop CC spurs competitive market for Photoshop, , replacement

[Joseph McAllister]

My bad. In our case (large government facility already running 3 - or 6 - IBM 
360 mainframes) the hardware were all IBM PCs, green-screen monitors, 
keyboards, no mice or trackball. One piece of software was out of place - Lotus 
123 - yellow and blue (green?) box.

They were really sweating that all the secretaries would take forever to learn 
to use them. Production would suffer, tempers would flare. Classes were held, 
etc.. They survived.

My department already had color monitors with light-pens, hooked to the  
mainframes, mostly used for production timing and scheduling.


On May 23, 2013, at 08:04 , John Sessoms wrote:

> From: Joseph McAllister
>> In the early 80's Microsoft practically gave away their PCs and all
>> their software to many government offices. They even included the
>> bookcase for all those maroon boxes with gold lettering. Out went the
>> Wang terminals, in came the PCs.
> 
> I don't remember Microsoft doing hardware. When we got our first office 
> computers in the Army, they were from Zenith Data Systems.
> 
> The only Microsoft software they ran was MS-DOS 3.3.
> 
> The "office" function was handled by a bundled program called "Enable" - with 
> a spreadsheet, word processor & presentation program.




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Re: PESO: Early Rose

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Don't you think those little buggers add charm to the image?  

Yes, I haven't got around to trimming the rose bushes and applying
fertilizer and insecticide.

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> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17361128
> K-r with FA 100 mm f1/2.8 Maro
>
> Comments are invited.
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Re: PESO: I'm a Grand-Dad again

[Daniel J. Matyola]

AW.

Congratulations!

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On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Charles Robinson  wrote:
> My daughter started really feeling it around 2a.m., and we got the call at 
> about 4 to come over.
>
> By 8:36 she was all done!  Nice work.
>
> Here he is, less than 20 minutes old:
>
> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/arthur_birthday/content/K5__2447_large.html
>
> Feel free to browse the rest of the shots if you care..
>
>  -Charles
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Re: PESO: I'm a Grand-Dad again

[Steve Cottrell]

On 23/5/13, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed:

>My daughter started really feeling it around 2a.m., and we got the call
>at about 4 to come over.
>
>By 8:36 she was all done!  Nice work.
>
>Here he is, less than 20 minutes old:
>

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/arthur_birthday/content/
K5__2447_large.html

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RE: PESO - The adventure continues

[John Coyle]

I get a feeling that I'd like to see that in B&W, Doug.  There is definitely a 
series looking to be
found.


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia



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  The adventure continues

https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/citJsxx9Rqc

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Re: Fifth PDML Annual

[David J Brooks]

Mine arrived the other day, great stuff. I think we need to take up a
cat collection for Doug though, he seems left out

Dave

On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Stan Halpin
 wrote:
> Ditto everything Bruce said. Another fine effort by the contributors and 
> editors.
>
> stan
>
> On May 21, 2013, at 4:21 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>
>> Mine arrived this morning and I had a very enjoyable browse through.
>> Top notch editing, content of course, and I completely agree with
>> prior comments about the terrific design.
>>
>> I'm proud to be a part of it!
>>
>> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 3:05 PM, DagT  wrote:
>>> I got mine today.
>>>
>>> Great work! A nice reminder of the number of excellent photographers on 
>>> this list.
>>>
>>> DagT
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>>> 19. mai 2013 kl. 01:15 skrev kwal...@peoplepc.com:
>>>
 Mine arrived yesterday.

 As usual the photos are very, very good, even the ones I don't understand!

 Its the elegant simplicity of the book and layout that just blew me away - 
 the font used, the images on white pages - Wonderful Mark!

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Re: OT - Do I Need to be Excited?

[Mark Roberts]

Steve Cottrell wrote:

>Apparently there's a new Leica on the way, some say a digital 'CL'.
>Do I need to be excited about this??

Depends how much money you've got. ;-)

>june-release>

Look at that image on DP Review. Put price tags above each of the
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Re: OT - Do I Need to be Excited?

[P.J. Alling]

If you're not planning to eat your hat over it...

Aw heck, I have no idea where i was going with that thought.

On 5/23/2013 5:16 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

Apparently there's a new Leica on the way, some say a digital 'CL'.
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Re: PESO: I'm a Grand-Dad again

[Darren Addy]

Congratulations Charles (and also to your daughter, who did all the
heavy lifting).

I'm only a first-time rookie Grand-Dad, and she is now 2 years old.
They're special! Enjoy the heck out of them.



On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Charles Robinson  wrote:
> My daughter started really feeling it around 2a.m., and we got the call at 
> about 4 to come over.
>
> By 8:36 she was all done!  Nice work.
>
> Here he is, less than 20 minutes old:
>
> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/arthur_birthday/content/K5__2447_large.html
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> Feel free to browse the rest of the shots if you care..
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OT - Do I Need to be Excited?

[Steve Cottrell]

Apparently there's a new Leica on the way, some say a digital 'CL'.
Do I need to be excited about this??



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PESO: I'm a Grand-Dad again

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My daughter started really feeling it around 2a.m., and we got the call at 
about 4 to come over.

By 8:36 she was all done!  Nice work.

Here he is, less than 20 minutes old:

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/arthur_birthday/content/K5__2447_large.html

Feel free to browse the rest of the shots if you care.. 

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Re: Super Secret Spy Lens

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I used to have one of these, probably the Spiratone version. Used on the front 
of a 135mm lens, I always had trouble lining up the target. The combination of 
a 90° side view and a mirror-image of the scene would have me wildly swinging 
the camera about to try and get centered, and then focused, on anything. I soon 
decided that a more unobtrusive approach to street or beach photography was to 
quietly point my camera at the desired subject and take the picture without a 
lot of fuss. But it was a fun gadget.

stan

On May 23, 2013, at 2:36 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

> Pentax actually made and marketed one of those for the Spotmatic and Early K 
> mount cameras.  It was considerably more expensive than the Spiratone version.
> 
> On 5/23/2013 11:11 AM, George Sinos wrote:
>> I remember a long time ago there was a company called Spiratone that
>> advertised in the back of photography magazines.  They usually had
>> several pages of adds and had all types of odd stuff for your camera.
>> 
>> I haven't seen one of these since way back then, but I got a good
>> laugh when I saw it today.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> GS
>> 
>> George Sinos
>> 
>> www.GeorgesPhotos.net
>> www.GeorgeSinos.com
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Re: Super Secret Spy Lens

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Pentax actually made and marketed one of those for the Spotmatic and 
Early K mount cameras.  It was considerably more expensive than the 
Spiratone version.


On 5/23/2013 11:11 AM, George Sinos wrote:

I remember a long time ago there was a company called Spiratone that
advertised in the back of photography magazines.  They usually had
several pages of adds and had all types of odd stuff for your camera.

I haven't seen one of these since way back then, but I got a good
laugh when I saw it today.



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Re: OT - No, it is not Photoshop...

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Aren't they the same thing, really?

On 5/23/2013 3:29 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 11:21:03PM -0400, Igor Roshchin wrote:


... but life dolls:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/katyasoldak/2012/10/17/barbie-flu-spreading-in-ukraine/

and

http://www.forbes.com/sites/katyasoldak/2012/05/06/deconstructing-a-ukrainian-barbie/

Never mind the zombie apocalypse, it's the barbie apocalypse!





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RE: Vanishing New York blog features my vintage photos today - yayay!

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Way cool!!

And deserving, too.

Congrats, Ann!

cheers,
frank

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Sent: May 22, 2013 5/22/13
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Subject: Vanishing New York blog features my vintage photos today - yayay!

I'm chuffed (like Derby ;-) )

http://vanishingnewyork.blogspot.com/2013/05/east-village-70s-80s.html

Blogger Jereniah Moss sent me an email last week asking if he could 
feature my stuff on his site after a reader of his wrote him about the 
Back in the Day calendar - I figured I wouldn't mention it until it was 
actually there.

Don't know if it will result in any actual sales, but he says he gets
a few thousand hits a day on the blog site and on his facebook page.
He included links to my smugmug page and my cafepress store

Cross fingers, guys!

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RE: PESO - The adventure continues

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Victorian Gothic.

Very cool!

Cheers,
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Subject: PESO - The adventure continues

  The adventure continues

https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/citJsxx9Rqc

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Re: PESO - The adventure continues

[David J Brooks]

Lovely shot and effect

Dave

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Re: Pentax K-30 in-camera RAW histogram approximation (UniWB, various tweaks)

[Walt]

On 5/23/2013 3:36 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:

On 23 May 2013 17:44, Larry Colen  wrote:


You can spend ages trying to calculate the perfect exposure. Using incident
and spot meters. Chimping the histogram and exposing to the right.  Or,
you could get pretty close to the right exposure, guessing as well as you can
on your camera, then bracket the exposure and choose the best one afterwards.
Or, if you're very ambitious, bracket, then use HDR software to improve on
the dynamic range of the camera. (note, I don't mean dialing the tone mapping
up to 11, getting the surreal effect)

Larry, you're making a heap of sense here. If I screwed around trying
to find the perfect exposure for all of my shots I wouldn't have half
the ones that I really like. I like the idea of getting things
techically perfect, it's the engineer in me I'm sure but artistically
the technical aspects of the shot are generally of far less
consequence than the content/subject matter.

Agreed 100%.

In fact, I regularly use under-exposure to knock down disagreeable 
backgrounds, or for a sense of mood. And when I'm taking what I think is 
a high priority photo and have time to set the camera up, I always 
bracket 2/3. That seems to work reasonably well, albeit not 100% of the 
time. Beyond that, I long ago came to the conclusion that some of my 
favorite images are technical abominations, and some of my crappiest are 
technically excellent.


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Re: Super Secret Spy Lens

[John Celio]

On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 9:00 AM, George Sinos  wrote:
> I remember a long time ago there was a company called Spiratone that
> advertised in the back of photography magazines.  They usually had
> several pages of adds and had all types of odd stuff for your camera.
>
> I haven't seen one of these since way back then, but I got a good
> laugh when I saw it today.
>
> 

Pentax made one of those, long ago:

http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/sold-items/108371-sale-sold-rare-pentax-90-degree-mirror-adapter-clandestine-photography-worldwide.html

The camera shop I used to work at had one used for quite a while. It
was fun to play with, but didn't do any favors to the sharpness of
whatever lens it was attached to. Sometimes I regret not buying it, if
only for the fun of having it around.

John

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Re: OT Photoshop CC spurs competitive market for Photoshop, , replacement

[John Sessoms]

From: Joseph McAllister

In the early 80's Microsoft practically gave away their PCs and all
their software to many government offices. They even included the
bookcase for all those maroon boxes with gold lettering. Out went the
Wang terminals, in came the PCs.


I don't remember Microsoft doing hardware. When we got our first office 
computers in the Army, they were from Zenith Data Systems.


The only Microsoft software they ran was MS-DOS 3.3.

The "office" function was handled by a bundled program called "Enable" - 
with a spreadsheet, word processor & presentation program.


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RE: Vanishing New York blog features my vintage photos today - yayay!

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That's wonderful, Ann!  Hope this translates into some nice sales for you.

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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele
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yayay!

Thanks,  Derby -  and all of you who responded (my thank yous are kinda time
related :-) ) and looked.  keep those fingers crossed that this goes beyond
another little 15 mins of fame.

last stat report says 27,500 - that's for the visit to my opening page, far
as I can tell.  can't hardly believe it :-)

ann

On 5/22/2013 16:50, Derby Chang wrote:
>
> Classic shots, and I love reading an articulate Q&A from the artist.
> Well done
>
>
> On 22/05/2013 10:50 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
>> I'm chuffed (like Derby ;-) )
>>
>> http://vanishingnewyork.blogspot.com/2013/05/east-village-70s-80s.htm
>> l
>>
>> Blogger Jereniah Moss sent me an email last week asking if he could 
>> feature my stuff on his site after a reader of his wrote him about 
>> the Back in the Day calendar - I figured I wouldn't mention it until 
>> it was actually there.
>>
>> Don't know if it will result in any actual sales, but he says he gets 
>> a few thousand hits a day on the blog site and on his facebook page.
>> He included links to my smugmug page and my cafepress store
>>
>> Cross fingers, guys!
>>
>> ann
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Pentax K-30 in-camera RAW histogram approximation (UniWB, , various tweaks)

[John Sessoms]

From: Walt

It's amazing anyone ever took a decent digital photo before ETTR or
UniWB were devised, really.


Angels. Pin. Dancing.

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Re: PESO: Early Rose

[Bruce Walker]

Beautiful rosebud, Dan. You may have a developing aphid problem though. ;-)

On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 11:15 PM, Daniel J. Matyola
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> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17361128
> K-r with FA 100 mm f1/2.8 Maro
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Re: PESO - The adventure continues

[Bruce Walker]

Very old world vibe with that styling. Love the image, Doug.

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Re: PESO 2013 - 046 - GDG

[Paul Stenquist]

I like the way you've found a way to convey the theme of this trip in a single 
interesting image. It would make a great lead photo for a magazine article 
about the wine train. A ride on that train is now on my bucket list. Love Napa.

Paul
On May 23, 2013, at 9:47 AM, Doug Brewer  wrote:

> On 5/19/13 1:13 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>> We had a guest from out of town and decided to enjoy a nice day's luncheon 
>> on the Napa Valley Wine Train. Well worth it: good wine, good food, great 
>> scenery, and good friends to enjoy the time.
>> 
>>   http://godfreydigiorgi.wordpress.com/2013/05/19/the-napa-valley-wine-train/
>> 
>> enjoy!
>> 
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Re: PESO - The adventure continues

[Paul Stenquist]

Great storytelling. A pretty pic.

Paul
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PESO - The adventure continues

[Doug Brewer]

 The adventure continues

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Re: Peso Stouffville fire truck

[Mark C]

Nice convergence of lines in this shot.

On 5/19/2013 4:11 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

The annual firehall open house was last Saturday. They have a restore
old fire truck that i have been trying to get a few decent shots of,
but they never put it in photographer friendly locations. This was the
best one all day, well actually the only one all day

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17337995

K-5, DFA 50-200, blue B&W filter in LR4

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Re: PESO 2013 - 046 - GDG

[Doug Brewer]

On 5/19/13 1:13 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

We had a guest from out of town and decided to enjoy a nice day's luncheon on 
the Napa Valley Wine Train. Well worth it: good wine, good food, great scenery, 
and good friends to enjoy the time.

   http://godfreydigiorgi.wordpress.com/2013/05/19/the-napa-valley-wine-train/

enjoy!

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Re: PESO - In a Big World

[Doug Brewer]

On 5/23/13 9:36 AM, Mark C wrote:

Beautiful and vocative shot, Doug.

On 5/20/2013 11:27 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:

In a big world

https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/8MWgkB6axQD






thanks much, Mark. I'm feeling a series.

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Re: PESO 2013 - 046 - GDG

[Mark C]

Clever use of the fork and napkin - allowed for the creation of a very 
pleasing image.


On 5/19/2013 1:13 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

We had a guest from out of town and decided to enjoy a nice day's luncheon on 
the Napa Valley Wine Train. Well worth it: good wine, good food, great scenery, 
and good friends to enjoy the time.

   http://godfreydigiorgi.wordpress.com/2013/05/19/the-napa-valley-wine-train/

enjoy!

Godfrey
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Re: PESO - In a Big World

[Mark C]

Beautiful and vocative shot, Doug.

On 5/20/2013 11:27 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:

In a big world

https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/8MWgkB6axQD




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Re: Pentax K-30 in-camera RAW histogram approximation (UniWB, various tweaks)

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

I've skimmed this thread with much amusement and more than a little confusion 
(about all the technobabble).

Here's the thing: everything is a compromise. Especially with exposure. There's 
always going to be something in a frame that's over or under exposed. So ya 
gotta work with it in processing (like St. Ansel when he printed).

While ascertaining the best exposure is laudable it's a near impossible task. 
Which is why this obsession with histograms and perfection makes me scratch my 
head.

Cheers,
frank

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From: Rob Studdert 
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On 23 May 2013 17:44, Larry Colen  wrote:

> You can spend ages trying to calculate the perfect exposure. Using incident
> and spot meters. Chimping the histogram and exposing to the right.  Or,
> you could get pretty close to the right exposure, guessing as well as you can
> on your camera, then bracket the exposure and choose the best one afterwards.
> Or, if you're very ambitious, bracket, then use HDR software to improve on
> the dynamic range of the camera. (note, I don't mean dialing the tone mapping
> up to 11, getting the surreal effect)

Larry, you're making a heap of sense here. If I screwed around trying
to find the perfect exposure for all of my shots I wouldn't have half
the ones that I really like. I like the idea of getting things
techically perfect, it's the engineer in me I'm sure but artistically
the technical aspects of the shot are generally of far less
consequence than the content/subject matter.

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Re: PESO Vulgar struggles

[Bruce Walker]

Yup. We have a Porcelain Berry vine too. :)

But up here in the frozen tundra almost nothing is successfully invasive.

On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Joseph McAllister  wrote:
> Coddling invasive species, are we?
>
> :)
>
>
> On May 21, 2013, at 16:11 , Bruce Walker wrote:
>
>> Alright, caption's a stretch. :)
>>
>> This is a Fern-leaf Dropwort, latin name Filipendula vulgaris. It's
>> common in Europe but a specialty item in North America and now hard to
>> get here because it's out of fashion. Ours is struggling after a nasty
>> winter, so I figured I should document it just in case.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8769786121/lightbox/
>>
>> K20D, DA* 55/1.4 @ f:8.0, 1/15th sec, ISO 200.
>>
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Re: Pentax K-30 in-camera RAW histogram approximation (UniWB, various tweaks)

[Rob Studdert]

On 23 May 2013 17:44, Larry Colen  wrote:

> You can spend ages trying to calculate the perfect exposure. Using incident
> and spot meters. Chimping the histogram and exposing to the right.  Or,
> you could get pretty close to the right exposure, guessing as well as you can
> on your camera, then bracket the exposure and choose the best one afterwards.
> Or, if you're very ambitious, bracket, then use HDR software to improve on
> the dynamic range of the camera. (note, I don't mean dialing the tone mapping
> up to 11, getting the surreal effect)

Larry, you're making a heap of sense here. If I screwed around trying
to find the perfect exposure for all of my shots I wouldn't have half
the ones that I really like. I like the idea of getting things
techically perfect, it's the engineer in me I'm sure but artistically
the technical aspects of the shot are generally of far less
consequence than the content/subject matter.

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Re: Pentax K-30 in-camera RAW histogram approximation (UniWB, various tweaks)

[Larry Colen]

On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 07:34:34AM +0300, Ciprian Dorin Craciun wrote:
> 
> 
> >> However my main statement that the JPEG is blown out, meanwhile
> >> the RAW is somewhat underexposed still holds, as by looking at the
> >> JPEG histogram you have the impression of an overblown red channel,
> >> meanwhile the raw histogram says otherwise.
> >
> > This RAW image is pretty much perfectly exposed. Emphasis on
> > _perfectly_. No clipping of highlights; trace clipping of shadows;
> > data spread nicely across the entire histogram. It's a really great
> > exposure -- and a very good looking plant too, by the way.
> >
> > An _excellent_ exposure.
> 
> The fact that it is an excellent exposure is because I've taken
> about 8 shots with various compensation levels and selected this one
> afterwards by looking on my computer on how "good" the exposure was.
> However in camera I couldn't have been able to decide between at least
> half of these exposures.

You can spend ages trying to calculate the perfect exposure. Using incident 
and spot meters. Chimping the histogram and exposing to the right.  Or, 
you could get pretty close to the right exposure, guessing as well as you can
on your camera, then bracket the exposure and choose the best one afterwards.
Or, if you're very ambitious, bracket, then use HDR software to improve on 
the dynamic range of the camera. (note, I don't mean dialing the tone mapping
up to 11, getting the surreal effect)


> 
> 
> > Now, I stand by my original rebuttal: toss your UniWB crud and go
> > shooting. What you need is less theory and more practice. :-)
> 
> I have a mixed feeling about this. :)

There are a lot of excellent photographers that pooh-pooh delving 
deeply into the technical details.  Many of them are photographers 
with decades of experience who dove head first into technicalities
themselves until they became second nature. Others have just been
shooting so long that they intuitively know all of the things that 
you are exploring about the technical aspects.

Most people cannot get great shots by obsessing about the technical
aspects.  A lot of the time thinking about the technical aspects will
just distract you from getting a great photograph.  This doesn't mean
that the technical aspects are unimportant, what it means is that you
have to know the technical side so completely, that you can nail it
without having to think about it.

Between my own studies, and my teaching, I have learned that people
can only work on learning one thing at a time. What's more, while 
they are concentrating on that one thing, not only will they suck
at other things, but for a while, they will suck at that too. Then
just as they are starting to improve, they will learn what they 
are supposed to be doing, and start noticing that they aren't doing
that and it will seem that they suck even worse.

Don't worry about obsessing over learning technical details, 
just don't forget that technical perfection is only a means 
to the end of great photos and not the only goal of photography.
At least, technical pefection isn't the only goal of photographers
that other people enjoy looking at their work.


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Re: OT - No, it is not Photoshop...

[Larry Colen]

On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 11:21:03PM -0400, Igor Roshchin wrote:
> 
> 
> ... but life dolls:
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/katyasoldak/2012/10/17/barbie-flu-spreading-in-ukraine/
> 
> and
> 
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/katyasoldak/2012/05/06/deconstructing-a-ukrainian-barbie/

Never mind the zombie apocalypse, it's the barbie apocalypse!


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