Re: PESO(s) I have but one Egret...

[Jack Davis]

I've noticed, Paul, that in recent years you've had better luck reducing 
clipped whites.
I agree that matrix metering would help.

Jack

- Original Message -
From: "Paul Stenquist" 
To: "PDML" 
Sent: Friday, October 3, 2014 4:44:02 PM
Subject: Re: PESO(s) I have but one Egret...

Odd. I use the full matrix metering on both the k-5 and k-3 when shooting 
egrets, and I haven’t blown one out in recent years. Generally, white objects 
will slightly underexpose because a dumb meter considers them neutral. I’ve 
shot them both against a bright sky and against dark water and shrubs. No blow 
outs. I don’t believe I used exposure comp on any of the shots. I do shoot RAW 
and usually pull down highlights in conversion.

Paul
On Oct 3, 2014, at 7:20 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:

> P.J. You don't indicate the focus metering. Could it have been other than 
> spot?
> 
> Jack
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "P.J. Alling" 
> To: "PDML" 
> Sent: Friday, October 3, 2014 4:05:11 PM
> Subject: PESO(s) I have but one Egret...
> 
> But three views.  I always blow out the highlights, even dialed in -2 
> stops of exposure.
> 
> The first two are about 1/2 to 2/3 frame crops.
> 
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---%20fishin.html
> 
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---%20caught.html
> 
> The last is the full frame
> 
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---backtofishin.html
> 
> Equipment:  Pentax K-5II w/vmc Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm f2.8~4.0 (Komine)
> 
> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
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Re: PESO(s) I have but one Egret...

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Excellent image, all of them.  The background really makes the birds stand out.

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On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 7:05 PM, P.J. Alling  wrote:
> But three views.  I always blow out the highlights, even dialed in -2 stops
> of exposure.
>
> The first two are about 1/2 to 2/3 frame crops.
>
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---%20fishin.html
>
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---%20caught.html
>
> The last is the full frame
>
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---backtofishin.html
>
> Equipment:  Pentax K-5II w/vmc Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm f2.8~4.0 (Komine)
>
> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
>
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Re: PESO -- Pensive

[Tim Bray]

Mmm, excellent light.

On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 6:41 PM, P.J. Alling  wrote:
> Not much commentary here, taken inside the Anchor, what used to be a dive
> bar, (the first time I visited, I was advised to not drink anything out of
> glass, only from bottles).  It's decor hasn't been updated but it's been
> cleaned up a lot.  On a side note; Sometimes it feels like the K-5II can see
> better in the dark than I can.
>
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---%20pensive.html
>
> Equipment: Pentax K-5II w/smc Pentax FA 43mm Limited f1.9.
>
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Re: OT for the amateur mechanics amongst us.

[P.J. Alling]

Some people have more money than brains...

On 10/3/2014 2:33 AM, mike wilson wrote:

You need to be sitting down to read this.

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=1006616




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PESO -- Pensive

[P.J. Alling]

Not much commentary here, taken inside the Anchor, what used to be a 
dive bar, (the first time I visited, I was advised to not drink anything 
out of glass, only from bottles).  It's decor hasn't been updated but 
it's been cleaned up a lot.  On a side note; Sometimes it feels like the 
K-5II can see better in the dark than I can.


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---%20pensive.html

Equipment: Pentax K-5II w/smc Pentax FA 43mm Limited f1.9.

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Louis after dark.

[P.J. Alling]

Louis Lunch is one of half a dozen places in the US that has some valid 
claim to inventing the modern hamburger.  They used to be open between 
11 AM and 3 PM, but since the entire building was moved to it's present 
location, to make way for a Southern New England Telephone Co. (SNET), 
building, it's now in the entertainment district, and open till 1 or 2 
PM to feed the bar crowds as they begin to wend their way home at 
closing time.  SNET is gone now, bought by the New AT&T and the building 
is essentially abandoned but Louis endures.


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---%20louisafterdark.html

Equipment: Pentax K-5II w/smc Pentax FA 43mm Limited f1.9.

Notes:  Pretty much the same rendering process as "Wing Man" but a bit 
of burning in of unwanted highlights.


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Re: PESO -- Wing Man.

[Ken Waller]

Interesting concept but shouldn't the fella looking at his phone be the 
look out.


Maybe he's looking out to make sure he doesn't get pee'd on !

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Jeffery Johnson" 

Subject: Re: PESO -- Wing Man.


Interesting concept but shouldn't the fella looking at his phone be the 
look out.

Jeffery Johnson
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On 10/3/2014 7:14 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
Out and about last week, not a technically perfect image, but it tells a 
story.  A bit too much camera movement for the AS system to compensate 
for but I have an excuse, I'd been drinking.


Mild content warning.  Life is sometimes distasteful.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---%20wingman.html

Equipment: Pentax K-5II w/smc Pentax FA 43mm limited f1.9

Rendered in B&W using DXOMark Filmpack 3 TXP settings with Green filter.

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Re: PESO(s) I have but one Egret...

[Ken Waller]

The highlights look acceptable to me - you've not lost much in the feather 
detail that would be interesting.


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "P.J. Alling" 

Subject: PESO(s) I have but one Egret...


But three views.  I always blow out the highlights, even dialed in -2 
stops of exposure.


The first two are about 1/2 to 2/3 frame crops.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---%20fishin.html

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---%20caught.html

The last is the full frame

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---backtofishin.html

Equipment:  Pentax K-5II w/vmc Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm f2.8~4.0 (Komine)

As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

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Re: PESO -- Wing Man.

[P.J. Alling]

I think /he/ was a little unclear on the concept...

On 10/3/2014 8:18 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote:
Interesting concept but shouldn't the fella looking at his phone be 
the look out.

Jeffery Johnson
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Bringing joy and happiness to lonely and depressed walls across the 
nation with wonderful eclectic photography and Pet photo sessions for 
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On 10/3/2014 7:14 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
Out and about last week, not a technically perfect image, but it 
tells a story.  A bit too much camera movement for the AS system to 
compensate for but I have an excuse, I'd been drinking.


Mild content warning.  Life is sometimes distasteful.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---%20wingman.html 



Equipment: Pentax K-5II w/smc Pentax FA 43mm limited f1.9

Rendered in B&W using DXOMark Filmpack 3 TXP settings with Green filter.

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Re: PESO -- Wing Man.

[Jeffery Johnson]

Interesting concept but shouldn't the fella looking at his phone be the 
look out.

Jeffery Johnson
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https://twitter.com/PhotoCaptures
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nation with wonderful eclectic photography and Pet photo sessions for an 
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On 10/3/2014 7:14 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
Out and about last week, not a technically perfect image, but it tells 
a story.  A bit too much camera movement for the AS system to 
compensate for but I have an excuse, I'd been drinking.


Mild content warning.  Life is sometimes distasteful.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---%20wingman.html 



Equipment: Pentax K-5II w/smc Pentax FA 43mm limited f1.9

Rendered in B&W using DXOMark Filmpack 3 TXP settings with Green filter.

As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.




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Re: OT - Advice to aspiring photographers

[P.J. Alling]

I used to do PJ but there was precious little money in it then, and now 
there's even less.


On 10/1/2014 11:21 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:


On 10/1/2014 10:09, Bruce Walker wrote:

35 Magnum Photographers Give Their Advice to Aspiring Photographers

Eric Kim took a Magnum blog post (with permission) and illustrated
with each photographer's work.

"Be yourself" is often suggested, along with the need for good shoes.
There's a strong PJ slant, imho, but it's a good thought-provoking
read.

We presume you mean Photo-journalism, not P.J. Alling ;-)

ann (ducking)

Well, I meant the former, but I don't know P.J. well enough to know if
he also does P-J, perhaps even in his PJ's?




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PESO -- Wing Man.

[P.J. Alling]

Out and about last week, not a technically perfect image, but it tells a 
story.  A bit too much camera movement for the AS system to compensate 
for but I have an excuse, I'd been drinking.


Mild content warning.  Life is sometimes distasteful.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---%20wingman.html

Equipment: Pentax K-5II w/smc Pentax FA 43mm limited f1.9

Rendered in B&W using DXOMark Filmpack 3 TXP settings with Green filter.

As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

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Re: U.S. Forest Service proposes photo permit rules (still & video)

[P.J. Alling]

On 9/29/2014 9:08 PM, steve harley wrote:

on 2014-09-28 20:16 P.J. Alling wrote
No, first Clinton administration, his party owned both houses, In 
March of

his first year, congress passed and Clinton signed a tax increase
retroactive to the beginning of his administration.


and Reagan signed a retroactive tax into law in 1987; and Ford singed 
a retroactive tax in 1976


Yes, but that's not the point, John asked me for an example of someone 
who had paid a retroactive tax, and I have one in the Case of Clinton, me.






It was widely believed
that the law would not stand, as the constitution strictly forbids Ex 
Post

Facto legislation.


… for criminal law only





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Re: PESO(s) I have but one Egret...

[Paul Stenquist]

Odd. I use the full matrix metering on both the k-5 and k-3 when shooting 
egrets, and I haven’t blown one out in recent years. Generally, white objects 
will slightly underexpose because a dumb meter considers them neutral. I’ve 
shot them both against a bright sky and against dark water and shrubs. No blow 
outs. I don’t believe I used exposure comp on any of the shots. I do shoot RAW 
and usually pull down highlights in conversion.

Paul
On Oct 3, 2014, at 7:20 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:

> P.J. You don't indicate the focus metering. Could it have been other than 
> spot?
> 
> Jack
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "P.J. Alling" 
> To: "PDML" 
> Sent: Friday, October 3, 2014 4:05:11 PM
> Subject: PESO(s) I have but one Egret...
> 
> But three views.  I always blow out the highlights, even dialed in -2 
> stops of exposure.
> 
> The first two are about 1/2 to 2/3 frame crops.
> 
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---%20fishin.html
> 
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---%20caught.html
> 
> The last is the full frame
> 
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---backtofishin.html
> 
> Equipment:  Pentax K-5II w/vmc Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm f2.8~4.0 (Komine)
> 
> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
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Re: U.S. Forest Service proposes photo permit rules (still & video)

[P.J. Alling]

On 9/29/2014 9:08 PM, steve harley wrote:

on 2014-09-28 20:16 P.J. Alling wrote
No, first Clinton administration, his party owned both houses, In 
March of

his first year, congress passed and Clinton signed a tax increase
retroactive to the beginning of his administration.


and Reagan signed a retroactive tax into law in 1987; and Ford singed 
a retroactive tax in 1976




It was widely believed
that the law would not stand, as the constitution strictly forbids Ex 
Post

Facto legislation.


… for criminal law only




The Constitution makes no such distinction. It is simply mentioned in 
the same sentence as the prohibition on bills of Attender. Article 1, 
Section 9.  Which is consists of limitations on the powers of Congress.


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Re: PESO(s) I have but one Egret...

[Jack Davis]

P.J. You don't indicate the focus metering. Could it have been other than spot?

Jack

- Original Message -
From: "P.J. Alling" 
To: "PDML" 
Sent: Friday, October 3, 2014 4:05:11 PM
Subject: PESO(s) I have but one Egret...

But three views.  I always blow out the highlights, even dialed in -2 
stops of exposure.

The first two are about 1/2 to 2/3 frame crops.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---%20fishin.html

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---%20caught.html

The last is the full frame

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---backtofishin.html

Equipment:  Pentax K-5II w/vmc Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm f2.8~4.0 (Komine)

As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

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PESO(s) I have but one Egret...

[P.J. Alling]

But three views.  I always blow out the highlights, even dialed in -2 
stops of exposure.


The first two are about 1/2 to 2/3 frame crops.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---%20fishin.html

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---%20caught.html

The last is the full frame

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---backtofishin.html

Equipment:  Pentax K-5II w/vmc Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm f2.8~4.0 (Komine)

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Re: Questions about LR database manipulations

[Igor PDML-StR]

Larry, thank you for some suggestion. Manual backup of all the original 
files in the current state (I have backups of the original state files, 
and of the LR databases), - is a good idea.


Godfrey: Thanks for your response. I know quite well how busy one can be, 
- and will appreciate if you can share your knowledge when you get a 
moment.


Igor


On Thu, 2 Oct 2014, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




One more question:
3. When merging the catalogs, - do I need to have all the files available
(i.e. to have all the external drives attached)?
I vaguely remember that when I was importing a catalog, LR warned me
something about the missing files, but I don't remember what.

Igor



On Thu, 2 Oct 2014, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




I know that several people on PDML have extensive expertise with LR.
So, I would like to ask a few questions about the information I cannot 
find.


In the context of LR:
1. Is there any difference of how the editing information (and not just the 
end result, but also the editing steps) and metadata are

handled between the following two scenrios of moving photo files:
a) within LR
b) within the OS, and then "reattaching" in LR via "locate photos"?

I've seen recommendations for both scenarios, but more for (b), especially 
in case of large quantities of files/folder. Those people argue that
the moving using OS means is more efficient, while moving within LR is 
prone to problems/interruptions (e.g. if LR encounters a problem alone the 
way).
I haven't seen any authoritative information if there is any difference 
between the two with respect to handling editing and metadata information, 
especially if the information is not written back into the file (or .xmp), 
but kept within the LR database.


I assume there shouldn't be any problem, but I am not 100% sure.

I am also curious if there is a difference in this behavior between
LR-3 and LR-5.


2. If I am merging catalogs and importing one into another, I understand 
that I can check-mark the option to preserve duplicates as virtual copies.
My question is what happens in that case if I have Collections with the 
same names? How is the clash resolved by LR?

Again, if there is a difference between LR3 and LR5, I'd like to know.


Does anybody know? Godfrey? Mark? Anybody else?
Thank you!

Igor







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Re: Questions about LR database manipulations

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Igor, I can help with your questions but I don't have time to do so until 
Saturday or Sunday. Very busy right now... !

Godfrey


> On Oct 3, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> Igor PDML-StR wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I know that several people on PDML have extensive expertise with LR.
>> So, I would like to ask a few questions about the information I cannot
>> find.
>> 
>> In the context of LR:
>> 1. Is there any difference of how the editing information (and not just
>> the end result, but also the editing steps) and metadata are
>> handled between the following two scenrios of moving photo files:
>> a) within LR
>> b) within the OS, and then "reattaching" in LR via "locate photos"?
> 
> I find that it is less work for me to move the photos from within lightroom.  
> If you are moving them on a directory level, you can get away with "find 
> directory",  sometimes.
> 
> There is a function that finds out what all the photos are missing are, but 
> it doesn't locate them for you, it just gives you what is effectively a 
> collection of all the photos where lightroom can't find the raw files.
> 
>> 
>> I've seen recommendations for both scenarios, but more for (b),
>> especially in case of large quantities of files/folder. Those people
>> argue that
>> the moving using OS means is more efficient, while moving within LR is
>> prone to problems/interruptions (e.g. if LR encounters a problem alone
>> the way).
>> I haven't seen any authoritative information if there is any difference
>> between the two with respect to handling editing and metadata
>> information, especially if the information is not written back into the
>> file (or .xmp), but kept within the LR database.
> 
> I do recommend that you do a manual backup (i.e. copy the directory tree) of 
> your lightroom catalogs before you start, that way if things go pear shaped, 
> you can return to where you are.
> 
>> 
>> I assume there shouldn't be any problem, but I am not 100% sure.
>> 
>> I am also curious if there is a difference in this behavior between
>> LR-3 and LR-5.
>> 
>> 
>> 2. If I am merging catalogs and importing one into another, I understand
>> that I can check-mark the option to preserve duplicates as virtual copies.
>> My question is what happens in that case if I have Collections with the
>> same names? How is the clash resolved by LR?
>> Again, if there is a difference between LR3 and LR5, I'd like to know.
>> 
>> 
>> Does anybody know? Godfrey? Mark? Anybody else?
>> Thank you

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I will be more than happy to be a tester if anyone wishes to send me one.
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Re: OT - My blog is dead!

[Mark C]

Thanks, Brian - glad it's working again! I should PESO that photo

Mark

On 10/3/2014 12:24 AM, Brian Walters wrote:



Yep - the RSS feed is working again.

Nice cat photo - I'm a fan of black cats...





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Re: OT - My blog is dead!

[Mark C]

Thanks, Ann - I exhaled more than a few sighs of relief one it got back 
up and running!


On 10/2/2014 11:15 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

a nice "phew!" for you!  good to hear it's back up

ann

On 10/2/2014 21:20, Mark C wrote:

Yippie - managed to get my blog back up and running! I sent the SQL
backup to the webhost this afternoon and they restored the old,
uncorrupted database. Once I reuploaded the B2Evolution PHP files etc, I
was back where I was with the blog showing old posts but refusing to
show any new content.

Then I got lucky and found a post where someone solved the blank content
problem by simply disabling the auto-link plug-in. I don't know why this
problem suddenly reared its head now - probably some upgrade on the
server - but for now it is fixed.

In a week or so I'll try incremental upgrades from my old version to the
latest

Mark


On 10/2/2014 2:36 PM, Mark C wrote:

I hope no hacking is involved but I also know that spammers and their
bots are relentless. I do check to be sure the site is not blacklisted
and also monitor the stats as best as I can. A couple of years ago I
blacked listed all of China in the .htaccess.  I've had two security
breaches in the past that I know of - the worst was caused by a weak
password (my fault) and one was caused by a weakness in shared hosting
(another user on the same server was able to gain access to my
account.) The first breach (a long time ago - I don't even remember
when) was the worst and did get the site blacklisted for a while,
which is when I learned it was a good idea to monitor the blacklists.
But that is sort of like checking on your health by making sure you
are not in the obituaries!

Mark

On 10/2/2014 12:32 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

I've learned, through administering some company wordpress sites that
one really needs to stay on top of upgrading to the latest releases
(of everything: Wordpress, themes, plug-ins, etc.) I imagine the same
is true of just about any software out there (Drupal, Joomla,
b2evolution, etc.)There are vulnerabilities that open up and bots are
written to look for those vulnerable versions and exploit them.

Checking the Changelog of your software will often be informative on
what improvements have been made and sometimes what vulnerabilities
have been patched:
http://www.longtermfix.com/test/blog/doc/changes.html

Googling: "b2evolution [your version number] vulnerability"
will also give some insights into what might have happened. It looks
like b2evolution has been vulnerable to SQL injections and so that
would be my first guess. In some cases the vulnerability results in
your site being used to spam which ends up getting your site
blacklisted by your web host or Google or other sites.

That being said, you will surely find more knowledgeable people on the
b2evolution forums.



On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 11:14 PM, David Mann  
wrote:
On Oct 2, 2014, at 5:00 am, Attila Boros  
wrote:


Ouch! Your host should also have backups, but it's a good idea to 
make
your own backups for a little added safety. If your version is 5 
years

old, maybe you can't upgrade directly to the latest version, but
better ask their support / forums.

My advice with backups is to never trust a hosting provider to do
them for you, even if you're paying for it.  Also restoring files
can be expensive.  A company I used to work for found that out;
after that we set up our own remote backup system which proved quite
useful in the long run.

Attila's advice about the upgrade is good, maybe you can upgrade
incrementally provided you can get hold of the intermediate
versions.  I've been involved in difficult upgrades like that before
- all I can say is "good luck" :)

Cheers,
Dave


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Re: OT for the amateur mechanics amongst us.

[Chris Mitchell]

I came across this exact issue in a Halfords (vehicle supplies shop in
UK) car park. A young woman asked me to look at her car and see if I
could give an opinion on why the starter wasn't turning the engine
over. I went through the usual stuff - flat battery, starter jammed
etc and then she said "I just topped the engine oil up". I asked her
how much oil she'd but in and she showed me a 5 litre (approx a
galllon) container. "That much?" I asked - and she said "no, one and a
half of them". I took the filler off and the oil level was near the
top. I suggested that she drain it off and she said that she'd call
her dad. How they managed to drain it in a car park I can't imagine...

Chris

On 3 October 2014 07:33, mike wilson  wrote:
> You need to be sitting down to read this.
>
> http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=1006616
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What happens when a Permissive Path grows up

[Chris Mitchell]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7w0eetb9e3czrmp/DSCF8068.jpg?dl=0

(See Mark!'s excellent Yorkshire pics for background)

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Re: GESO: London multi-exposure, freaky, experimental HDR stuff

[Chris Mitchell]

I agree with Rick. Mostly. But it's labelled as "experimental" so keep
it coming and we'll continue to tear it to shreds. Mostly.

Chris



On 1 October 2014 01:16, Rick Womer  wrote:
> Lovely compositions, excellent double exposures, but  I really dislike the 
> HDR.
>
> I hope you post some non-HDR versions!
>
> Rick
> On Sep 29, 2014, at 9:20 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>
>> Kinda Theriaultean, only in color and on acid:
>> http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/london2/
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Re: Questions about LR database manipulations

[Larry Colen]

Igor PDML-StR wrote:



I know that several people on PDML have extensive expertise with LR.
So, I would like to ask a few questions about the information I cannot
find.

In the context of LR:
1. Is there any difference of how the editing information (and not just
the end result, but also the editing steps) and metadata are
handled between the following two scenrios of moving photo files:
a) within LR
b) within the OS, and then "reattaching" in LR via "locate photos"?


I find that it is less work for me to move the photos from within 
lightroom.  If you are moving them on a directory level, you can get 
away with "find directory",  sometimes.


There is a function that finds out what all the photos are missing are, 
but it doesn't locate them for you, it just gives you what is 
effectively a collection of all the photos where lightroom can't find 
the raw files.




I've seen recommendations for both scenarios, but more for (b),
especially in case of large quantities of files/folder. Those people
argue that
the moving using OS means is more efficient, while moving within LR is
prone to problems/interruptions (e.g. if LR encounters a problem alone
the way).
I haven't seen any authoritative information if there is any difference
between the two with respect to handling editing and metadata
information, especially if the information is not written back into the
file (or .xmp), but kept within the LR database.


I do recommend that you do a manual backup (i.e. copy the directory 
tree) of your lightroom catalogs before you start, that way if things go 
pear shaped, you can return to where you are.




I assume there shouldn't be any problem, but I am not 100% sure.

I am also curious if there is a difference in this behavior between
LR-3 and LR-5.


2. If I am merging catalogs and importing one into another, I understand
that I can check-mark the option to preserve duplicates as virtual copies.
My question is what happens in that case if I have Collections with the
same names? How is the clash resolved by LR?
Again, if there is a difference between LR3 and LR5, I'd like to know.


Does anybody know? Godfrey? Mark? Anybody else?
Thank you!

Igor





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Re: GESO - NHM competition

[Chris Mitchell]

Good to hear from you again Ben. Some super shots. I submitted ,as
requested, but just for the list - Whatcha Looking at and Pied
Kingfisher are my two.

Chris

On 1 October 2014 22:38, Ben Price  wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I don’t often post, but I do enjoy the images shared and discussions on this 
> mailing list. I work at the Natural History Museum in London and every year 
> the staff have an internal photo competition parallel to the Wildlife 
> Photographer of the Year. Each member of staff can submit two photos and the 
> competition is pretty fierce.
>
> I’ve put together a gallery of my 10 favourite photos to enter, but I need 
> your help to narrow it down to the final two. The gallery is on Flickr here: 
> https://flic.kr/s/aHsk4BirfF
>
> If you could let me know your two choices through this google form I would 
> appreciate it: http://goo.gl/forms/bpDIQjHkpK
>
> Last year I put in two of my favourites and didn’t even make the second 
> round, so here’s hoping a bit of external (unbiased) advice will help!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ben
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Quick, somebody buy one so you can tell us how good, or bad it is.

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Re: I hate digital photography!

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On Oct 3, 2014, at 11:18 , P.J. Alling  wrote:

> On 10/1/2014 3:34 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:
>> On Sep 22, 2014, at 13:23 , Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, I hate digital photography!
>>> With a digital camera, I am producing to many photographs to be able to
>>> deal with.
>>> Even though I take photographs only a few days a month, they come in 
>>> "bursts" of several hundreds, and then I don't have time to select and 
>>> process them.
>>> 
>> Simple solution: Get yourself a 512-meg SD card and you'll only be able to 
>> shoot about "1 roll of film" before you're done.
> 
> You're off by a factor of 2, my last operating 2 gig card shows a capacity of 
> 58 exposures in a K-5II I'd assume that you'd need a 1gig card to hold 
> between about 36, so a K-3 would probably need that 2gigs.
> 

Ack - my only point of reference was K5 image sizes... and even then I was 
guessing fast 'n' loose.

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Re: I hate digital photography!

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On 10/1/2014 3:34 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:

On Sep 22, 2014, at 13:23 , Igor PDML-StR  wrote:


Yes, I hate digital photography!
With a digital camera, I am producing to many photographs to be able to
deal with.
Even though I take photographs only a few days a month, they come in "bursts" 
of several hundreds, and then I don't have time to select and process them.


Simple solution: Get yourself a 512-meg SD card and you'll only be able to shoot about 
"1 roll of film" before you're done.


You're off by a factor of 2, my last operating 2 gig card shows a 
capacity of 58 exposures in a K-5II I'd assume that you'd need a 1gig 
card to hold between about 36, so a K-3 would probably need that 2gigs.




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Re: Geso: A walk in the woods

[Don Guthrie]

Thanks for the view Tim, always glad to see you browsing here.

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Such a nice set, thanks.

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Don Guthrie  wrote:

>What a great time of year for a walk; cool but the leaves are just beginning
>their end. Comments always welcome.
>
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157647618935646/
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Re: GESO - NHM competition

[Mark C]

Hi Ben -

Superb work all around. My two favs are "Take Off" and Whacha looking 
at?" I noth those both appear to be studio shots, so if the competition 
puts an emphasis on in the field / behavioral shots I'd go for "Rebirth" 
and "Theif."


Good luck!

Mark

On 10/1/2014 5:38 PM, Ben Price wrote:

Hi folks,

I don’t often post, but I do enjoy the images shared and discussions on this 
mailing list. I work at the Natural History Museum in London and every year the 
staff have an internal photo competition parallel to the Wildlife Photographer 
of the Year. Each member of staff can submit two photos and the competition is 
pretty fierce.

I’ve put together a gallery of my 10 favourite photos to enter, but I need your 
help to narrow it down to the final two. The gallery is on Flickr here: 
https://flic.kr/s/aHsk4BirfF

If you could let me know your two choices through this google form I would 
appreciate it: http://goo.gl/forms/bpDIQjHkpK

Last year I put in two of my favourites and didn’t even make the second round, 
so here’s hoping a bit of external (unbiased) advice will help!

Cheers,

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Re: Might be quiet..

[Bob Sullivan]

John,
Hope she responds positively to you visit and returns to good health.
Regards,  Bob S.

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> ... for a while: currently in UK for 7 days visiting very sick daughter.
> Sorry, UK-PDMLers, there won't be time for a meet-up, only spending time
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> Thanks for viewing and commenting Darren, Attila and Don.
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>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Don Guthrie" 
> Subject: Re: PESO - 'Common Green Darner'
>
>
>> Exceptional creature photo.
>>
>> On 10/1/14, 11:17 PM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
>>> On Oct 1, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
>>>
 >Taken in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan with  a K3, 300mm f4.5 FA, @
 >1/200 & f6.3, 400 ISO.
 >
 >Comments appreciated.
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 >http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17872970
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Re: Video on photos recreating a PanAm flight

[Bruce Walker]

This is the link with all the tech info. Great read!

http://www.mpkelley.com/pan-am-flies-again


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>
> The video is actually pretty interesting from a photographic point of view.
> He discusses the lighting and what it took to get the effects he wanted.
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> Link to just the video
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Re: Video on photos recreating a PanAm flight

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Just wow. Wonderful shots, and that's a big shoot! More like a film
production than a photoshoot. Colour me very impressed!

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Re: Might be quiet..

[Darren Addy]

Very sorry to hear of your daughter's illness John. Hope it is only a
temporary one and she makes a full and rapid recovery.

Darren Addy
Kearney, Nebraska

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> John Coyle
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> Thanks for viewing and commenting Darren, Attila and Don.
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>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Don Guthrie" 
> Subject: Re: PESO - 'Common Green Darner'
>
>
>> Exceptional creature photo.
>>
>> On 10/1/14, 11:17 PM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
>>> On Oct 1, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
>>>
 >Taken in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan with  a K3, 300mm f4.5 FA, @
 >1/200 & f6.3, 400 ISO.
 >
 >Comments appreciated.
 >
 >http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17872970
 >
 >Kenneth Waller
 >http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>
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~ Alfred Stieglitz

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Video on photos recreating a PanAm flight

[Larry Colen]

http://sploid.gizmodo.com/the-best-flying-experience-ever-perfectly-recreated-in-1641714584

The video is actually pretty interesting from a photographic point of 
view. He discusses the lighting and what it took to get the effects he 
wanted.


Link to just the video
http://vimeo.com/92430997

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Might be quiet..

[John Coyle]

... for a while: currently in UK for 7 days visiting very sick daughter.
Sorry, UK-PDMLers, there won't be time for a meet-up, only spending time
with daughter and my brother.

John Coyle

-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ken Waller
Sent: Friday, 3 October 2014 12:49 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: PESO - 'Common Green Darner'

Thanks for viewing and commenting Darren, Attila and Don.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Don Guthrie" 
Subject: Re: PESO - 'Common Green Darner'


> Exceptional creature photo.
>
> On 10/1/14, 11:17 PM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
>> On Oct 1, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
>>
>>> >Taken in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan with  a K3, 300mm f4.5 FA, @ 
>>> >1/200 & f6.3, 400 ISO.
>>> >
>>> >Comments appreciated.
>>> >
>>> >http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17872970
>>> >
>>> >Kenneth Waller
>>> >http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller


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Re: OT for the amateur mechanics amongst us.

[Brian Walters]

Quoting mike wilson :


You need to be sitting down to read this.

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=1006616



Yikes!

That post dates from 2013 and he's now listed as a 'Banned User'.  
Should be banned from using his car as well.



Cheers

Brian

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Western Sydney Australia
http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/



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Re: K-3, grip, AF-540 flash bundle at B+H $997

[steve harley]

on 2014-10-02 19:21 Igor PDML-StR wrote


Steve,

The link you posted shows K-3 & BG-5 grip for $997 (996.95),
and AF-540 costs additional $80.95 if purchased together.


it appears B+H changed it; when i posted it most definitely had the grip 
*and* the flash in the "includes free" section at the top



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