Re: PESO - heirloom

2015-03-20 Thread Bruce
Stay brave.  Excellent work and the model is nice as well. 

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On March 19, 2015 7:01:37 PM PDT, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
I have become brave enough to attempt to light a woman with a single
hard light, a silver reflector, now ...

https://500px.com/photo/101514597/aly-by-bruce-walker

The heirloom in question is the necklace which was a gift from Aly's
grandmother.


K-3, DA* 50-135/2.8, 63mm, f:11, ISO 100. Lr + Ps.

One light only: Einstein monolight with 22 bare silver beauty dish,
camera-left.

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Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv:


On 20/3/15, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:


Anyway, here it is:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/mini-faq.htm


If anyone cares to update the link in 'Cotty's Hat' section, here you go:

http://www.seeingeye.tv/pages/yum.html




Anyone?  That would be me

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RE: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread Malcolm Smith
Bruce wrote:
 
 Man you mentioning Who and Bill mentioning Mafud brings back memories
 that had been successfully suppressed.  Alas, I may not sleep too well
 tonight.

The PDML is a far less volatile place than it once was. I used to wake up,
switch on the dial up internet connection and gaze into the battlefield of
postings where stands were taken, lines were crossed and some downright
astonishing things were said. Many members fell in these wars. Of course,
the greatest of them all created an alter ego to argue with himself.

Whack jobs aren't what they used to be. 

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Re: Book Report: How the PDML Photo Annual is coming along

2015-03-20 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 19/3/15, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:

Truth be to tell, Mark and Doug are doing almost all the work. I get to 
go through the pictures and make snarky comments about them.

So actually you have the best job.

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Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 20/3/15, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:

Anyway, here it is:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/mini-faq.htm

If anyone cares to update the link in 'Cotty's Hat' section, here you go:

http://www.seeingeye.tv/pages/yum.html

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Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread Bruce
Man you mentioning Who and Bill mentioning Mafud brings back memories that had 
been successfully suppressed.  Alas, I may not sleep too well tonight. 

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On March 19, 2015 8:13:32 PM PDT, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:
You mention of Shel and meals in the same sentence... He once said 
(paraphrasing from memory here) - When you eat an excellent meal do
you 
ask the chef what kind of pots and pans he used to  cook it? Why then
do 
you ask photographers what camera and lens they used to make a photo?
I 
often think of that line, to this day..

I sparred with Shel a few times but never felt offended - he was a 
memorable character. There were others, much much worse, whoo shall not

be named...

Mark

On 3/19/2015 11:36 AM, Bruce wrote:
 I had several meals with Shel over the time he spent on the list.  I
can certainly relate to the statement.  He was a 'unique' character. 
Very agreeable as long as you saw things his way...

 --
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 On March 19, 2015 6:27:49 AM PDT, Paul Stenquist
pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Only us oldsters know what Shel-like means.:-)

 Paul via phone

 On Mar 19, 2015, at 8:51 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 I'm still here although my participation has fallen, mostly due to
 lack of photo drives to generate anything thing to show.
 I like hanging out here, mainly because no one ridicules me for
post
 process. I was hanging out at PF for a while in 2007-2008, but one
of
 their main contributors beat me up pretty bad for saying things
like
 i
 usually do some post processing. If i was a 'real' photographer i
 would get it right in the camera. Some came to my defense but not a
 lot. Seems trivial but the comments from him were almost Shel like,
 so
 i pretty much gave that place up.

 Dave

 On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 8:34 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net
 wrote:
 The general relationship with the digital age has become more
 routine.
 Interest peaks have flattened.

 Jack

 - Original Message -
 From: Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 10:34:07 PM
 Subject: Re: Where is everyone?

 I think there are several reasons for the fall off in postings. 
The
 web-based DP Review  Pentax Forums are easy to find for people
 looking for info on their new cameras and for help with problems.
 Also PDML has morphed into (mainly) a photo sharing list - nothing
 wrong with that but there seems to be few gear-related postings
 except
 when a new model is rumoured or released.  Perhaps we're all so
 familiar with our cameras that we don't need any assistance.

 I'm not sure how to increase participation. I tried a number of
 Pentax-related searches on Google - PDML, if it came up at all,
was
 well down the list.



 Cheers

 Brian

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 Quoting Rick Womer rickpic...@gmail.com:

 Lately I've noticed that the volume of PDML posts is way down.
So,
 being off this week and having some spare time, I did some
research
 in
 the archives.

 In January 2015, there were 1234 posts from 52 members.
 In January 2014, there were 2587 posts from 74 members.
 In January 2013, there were 2667 posts from 70 members.
 In January 2012, there were 3418 posts from 88 members.
 In January 2011, there were 5091 posts from 109 members.
 In January 2010, there were 4764 posts from 110 members.

 So, in five years, active members are down by half, and the
number
 of
 posts is down by 3/4.

 There is more competition than there used to be (especially,
 recently,
 from Facebook), but IMHO the PDML remains the best (of many)
photo
 discussion venues I've used over the decades. It would be good to
 turn
 around this decline.

 How do we draw in new members? How do we keep both new and
existing
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Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread Yolanda Rowe
I found PDML in fall 2004. After two years of dealing with the
frustrations of a digital PS, I started my search. The catalogs were
filled with digiR*b*l information. I was leaning in that direction
because it's what was readily available. I decided to check to see if
Pentax had an offering. The *istDS was the latest, but the *istD was
still being sold. I was glad to see that I wouldn't have to change
systems to get into serious digital.

Ordered my first DSLR from BH in November 2004 and have never looked
back. My CBA is almost as bad as my LBA.

I do more lurking than posting, but this list has provided lots of
information and entertainment in the past 10.5 years.

Cheers to many more years.

Yonnie


On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 2:36 AM, Malcolm Smith rrve...@virginmedia.com wrote:
 Bruce wrote:

 Man you mentioning Who and Bill mentioning Mafud brings back memories
 that had been successfully suppressed.  Alas, I may not sleep too well
 tonight.

 The PDML is a far less volatile place than it once was. I used to wake up,
 switch on the dial up internet connection and gaze into the battlefield of
 postings where stands were taken, lines were crossed and some downright
 astonishing things were said. Many members fell in these wars. Of course,
 the greatest of them all created an alter ego to argue with himself.

 Whack jobs aren't what they used to be.

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Re: Book Report: How the PDML Photo Annual is coming along

2015-03-20 Thread Mark Roberts
Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 19/3/15, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:

Truth be to tell, Mark and Doug are doing almost all the work. I get to 
go through the pictures and make snarky comments about them.

So actually you have the best job.

No, I have the best job; I get to read Bill's snarky comments.
 
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Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread Jan van Wijk
On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 21:15:46 +0100 Toralf Lund wrote:

On 19/03/15 14:27, Paul Stenquist wrote:
Only us oldsters know what Shel-like means.:-)
Thought I hadn't been here *that* long, but I think I know.

I remember Shel too, joined in the late nineties, still using film (MX and LX).
Later I went digital with the original *istD, and also got a 67II for film.

I assisted Bill Robb with getting the PUG up every month, for a year or two,
and started contributing to the PUG again a few years back ...

Don't post much to the PDML, but read most of it :)

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Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread Paul Stenquist


Paul via phone

 On Mar 20, 2015, at 5:48 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Mark Roberts
 postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 steve harley wrote:
 
 On 2015-03-20 14:23 , John wrote:
 Some time in (I believe) late 2006 Google bought out the UseNet Archive
 and my ISP (Time-Warner Roadrunner) announced they were going to shut
 down their news servers.
 
 Google bought the archive (which means they will probably delete it
 someday), but doesn't control Usenet, just provides probably the most-used
 interface to it these days
 
 Yep. The old web archiving service was called DejaNews. Google bought
 them out and then was even more lax than DejaNews in enforcing their
 TOS. This predictably led to even more trolling and other abuse, which
 is probably exactly wanted to drive traffic away from Usenet and
 toward web sites. Not that it wouldn't have happened anyway, but
 Google certainly helped it happen faster and to a greater extent.
 
 i just took a peek into rec.photo.digital and to see what we are missing,
 and felt no desire to stick around ;?
 
 You're a brave man. ;-)
 
 I still have a usefilm account
 
 Dave

Ditto. But I'm not sure what my password might be.
 
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Re: OT: MASH question

2015-03-20 Thread Darren Addy
Kudos to Brian. He's nailed it.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
 Quoting CollinB coll...@brendemuehl.net:

 What camera was Hawkeye using in the episode dr pearce and mr hyde?



 It looks like a Kodak Chevron, produced from 1953 to 1956 which means it was
 probably (just) in context for the Korean War.

 Here's some info:

 http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Kodak_Chevron

 and there's a pic on this page:

 http://possumjimandelizabeth.com/xhtml/collect_camera_med.html



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Re: We interrupt these reminiscences for a PESO -- On the March

2015-03-20 Thread Paul Sorenson
Well, I thought they were on their way to a Klan meeting. 

-p

Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 20, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On 20/03/2015 12:02 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
 Invading alien platoon or just shrubs wrapped against the winter?
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17987093size=lg
 
 (K-5, DA 40/2.8 ltd)
 
 Once you comment on the photo (constructively, appreciatively, or 
 dismissively) please resume the discussion already in progress.
 
 Cheers,
 
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 I know I'm going to take flak for this, but they look like they are on their 
 way to a Mosque.
 
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FS Friday: Stormtrooper White Ibanez Art 100 Electric Guitar

2015-03-20 Thread Darren Addy
I should have mentioned this in my earlier Hello Kitty Squier
Stratocaster post, but I *also* have a Snow White Ibanez Art 100,
which is a very highly regarded guitar for not a lot of lettuce.
http://grandisland.craigslist.org/msg/4929343594.html

This one is not listed on eBay (yet). $349 new and well-reviewed.

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Re: OT: MASH question

2015-03-20 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting CollinB coll...@brendemuehl.net:


What camera was Hawkeye using in the episode dr pearce and mr hyde?



It looks like a Kodak Chevron, produced from 1953 to 1956 which means  
it was probably (just) in context for the Korean War.


Here's some info:

http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Kodak_Chevron

and there's a pic on this page:

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Re: We interrupt these reminiscences for a PESO -- On the March

2015-03-20 Thread Rick Womer
Hi Tom! Looong time no see!

No, clearly not Canadian; their cloaks are much furrier. Just look at
Knarf's face.

Cheers,

Rick
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On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Tom Reese tomreesep...@gmail.com wrote:
 I thought this was a photo of the PDML Canadian contingent while they
 were still in hibernation?

 Well spotted Rick. A nice bit of whimsy.


 On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote:
 I always wondered what happened to the Triffids.

 Alan C

 -Original Message- From: Rick Womer
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 Subject: We interrupt these reminiscences for a PESO -- On the March

 Invading alien platoon or just shrubs wrapped against the winter?

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17987093size=lg

 (K-5, DA 40/2.8 ltd)

 Once you comment on the photo (constructively, appreciatively, or
 dismissively) please resume the discussion already in progress.

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Re: Peso - Old Salt

2015-03-20 Thread Tom Reese
Ann, I like the shot just fine as is but would still like to see what
it looks like today

On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:


 On 3/20/2015 15:11, John wrote:

 Shouldn't that have been if my piers find it interesting?

 May have to dock you for that groaner

 ann


 On 3/18/2015 3:47 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 There is a reason I'm being coy, Ken..
 but really, all I needed to know is if my peers find it interesting in
 itself... and a number of you have said it is so... I'm good.

 Thanks
 ann

 On 3/18/2015 15:39, Ken Waller wrote:

 Without knowing what you're trying to to with the image its hard for me
 to make a suggestion.

 As posted, its interesting to me.

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

 - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
 Subject: Peso - Old Salt


 Digging into old film stuff for a project - needed more photos of
 the area back in the day.  This was at the South Street Seaport as
 it was in February, 1977.  Pentax KX , Tri-x neg scanned with the
 Epson v500


 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-City-back-in-the-day/i-cdH3zt9/L




 Wondering if this is interesting in itself or if you need the
 contrast of what that exact spot looks like to day to make it so.

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OT: MASH question

2015-03-20 Thread CollinB
What camera was Hawkeye using in the episode dr pearce and mr hyde?
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Re: For Sale Friday:Hello Kitty Squier Stratocater kit (highly collectible)

2015-03-20 Thread Bob W-PDML
And they say punk is dead...


 On 20 Mar 2015, at 22:56, Marco Alpert ma...@alpert.com wrote:
 
 For anyone who doubts the level of macho cred this guitar will provide, I 
 offer this picture taken of me a couple of years ago at the editorial offices 
 of Guitar Player Magazine:
 
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/n6aqrqkfb64dafc/hellokitty.jpg?dl=0
 
 Enough said.
 
 - Marco
 
 On Mar 20, 2015, at 2:47 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
 
 Greetings fellow Pentax afficianadoes,
 I know there are some musicians on the group, and I can't let this For
 Sale Friday go without letting you know about a highly collectible
 Squire Hello Kitty PINK Stratocaster kit that I have for sale. It is
 currently listed on eBay along with a video review:
 http://goo.gl/bu8INL
 
 Whether you want to
 make people stand up and take notice at your unusual instrument the
 next time you play, or you have a young beginner in mindthis is a
 quality full size instrument with the simplicity that a single
 humbucker/volume knob provides.
 
 If you wish to make an offer off-ebay I can cancel the auction. This
 is a NICE kit including guitar, nylon backpack case, new sealed box of
 collectible Fender Hello Kitty picks from 2005 (no longer
 available), a multi-color strap that matches the guitar nicely and a
 new set of Ernie Ball Super Squishy strings.
 
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Re: OT: MASH question

2015-03-20 Thread P.J. Alling
Sure but Chevrons are cheep, while a pristine looking Medalist, which 
would be period correct, are much harder to find.


On 3/20/2015 9:52 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

In the M.A.S.H. episode, Hawkeye sends a telegram to President Truman.
Truman left office January 20 1953. So unless the Chevron was
available for Christmas 1952, it is unlikely that Hawkeye would have
had one while he was in office. However, Hollywood makes mistakes like
this all of the time. And we can forgive them for thinking that anyone
would be anal enough to raise the question ever, let alone in 2015.
Well done, Collin! I enjoyed that!
:)



On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 8:45 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:

Kudos to Brian. He's nailed it.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

Quoting CollinB coll...@brendemuehl.net:


What camera was Hawkeye using in the episode dr pearce and mr hyde?



It looks like a Kodak Chevron, produced from 1953 to 1956 which means it was
probably (just) in context for the Korean War.

Here's some info:

http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Kodak_Chevron

and there's a pic on this page:

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Re: Peso - Old Salt

2015-03-20 Thread Rick Womer
Please! No moor puns!
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:


 On 3/20/2015 15:11, John wrote:

 Shouldn't that have been if my piers find it interesting?

 May have to dock you for that groaner

 ann


 On 3/18/2015 3:47 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 There is a reason I'm being coy, Ken..
 but really, all I needed to know is if my peers find it interesting in
 itself... and a number of you have said it is so... I'm good.

 Thanks
 ann

 On 3/18/2015 15:39, Ken Waller wrote:

 Without knowing what you're trying to to with the image its hard for me
 to make a suggestion.

 As posted, its interesting to me.

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

 - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
 Subject: Peso - Old Salt


 Digging into old film stuff for a project - needed more photos of
 the area back in the day.  This was at the South Street Seaport as
 it was in February, 1977.  Pentax KX , Tri-x neg scanned with the
 Epson v500


 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-City-back-in-the-day/i-cdH3zt9/L




 Wondering if this is interesting in itself or if you need the
 contrast of what that exact spot looks like to day to make it so.

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Re: OT: MASH question

2015-03-20 Thread Darren Addy
In the M.A.S.H. episode, Hawkeye sends a telegram to President Truman.
Truman left office January 20 1953. So unless the Chevron was
available for Christmas 1952, it is unlikely that Hawkeye would have
had one while he was in office. However, Hollywood makes mistakes like
this all of the time. And we can forgive them for thinking that anyone
would be anal enough to raise the question ever, let alone in 2015.
Well done, Collin! I enjoyed that!
:)



On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 8:45 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Kudos to Brian. He's nailed it.

 On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org 
 wrote:
 Quoting CollinB coll...@brendemuehl.net:

 What camera was Hawkeye using in the episode dr pearce and mr hyde?



 It looks like a Kodak Chevron, produced from 1953 to 1956 which means it was
 probably (just) in context for the Korean War.

 Here's some info:

 http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Kodak_Chevron

 and there's a pic on this page:

 http://possumjimandelizabeth.com/xhtml/collect_camera_med.html



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Re: Peso - Old Salt

2015-03-20 Thread Tom Reese
yeah this thread has gone to hull

On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Rick Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote:
 Please! No moor puns!
 http://photo.net/photos/RickW


 On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:


 On 3/20/2015 15:11, John wrote:

 Shouldn't that have been if my piers find it interesting?

 May have to dock you for that groaner

 ann


 On 3/18/2015 3:47 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 There is a reason I'm being coy, Ken..
 but really, all I needed to know is if my peers find it interesting in
 itself... and a number of you have said it is so... I'm good.

 Thanks
 ann

 On 3/18/2015 15:39, Ken Waller wrote:

 Without knowing what you're trying to to with the image its hard for me
 to make a suggestion.

 As posted, its interesting to me.

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

 - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
 Subject: Peso - Old Salt


 Digging into old film stuff for a project - needed more photos of
 the area back in the day.  This was at the South Street Seaport as
 it was in February, 1977.  Pentax KX , Tri-x neg scanned with the
 Epson v500


 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-City-back-in-the-day/i-cdH3zt9/L




 Wondering if this is interesting in itself or if you need the
 contrast of what that exact spot looks like to day to make it so.

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Re: For Sale Friday:Hello Kitty Squier Stratocater kit (highly collectible)

2015-03-20 Thread Marco Alpert
For anyone who doubts the level of macho cred this guitar will provide, I offer 
this picture taken of me a couple of years ago at the editorial offices of 
Guitar Player Magazine:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/n6aqrqkfb64dafc/hellokitty.jpg?dl=0

Enough said.

- Marco

On Mar 20, 2015, at 2:47 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

 Greetings fellow Pentax afficianadoes,
 I know there are some musicians on the group, and I can't let this For
 Sale Friday go without letting you know about a highly collectible
 Squire Hello Kitty PINK Stratocaster kit that I have for sale. It is
 currently listed on eBay along with a video review:
 http://goo.gl/bu8INL
 
 Whether you want to
 make people stand up and take notice at your unusual instrument the
 next time you play, or you have a young beginner in mindthis is a
 quality full size instrument with the simplicity that a single
 humbucker/volume knob provides.
 
 If you wish to make an offer off-ebay I can cancel the auction. This
 is a NICE kit including guitar, nylon backpack case, new sealed box of
 collectible Fender Hello Kitty picks from 2005 (no longer
 available), a multi-color strap that matches the guitar nicely and a
 new set of Ernie Ball Super Squishy strings.
 
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Re: For Sale Friday:Hello Kitty Squier Stratocater kit (highly collectible)

2015-03-20 Thread Darren Addy
There you go! Awesome Marco!

I wish I could keep it, but I need to pay for a used Epiphone Les Paul
Standard Plus (Wine) that I found for a ridiculously low price. That's
going to be my keeper electric.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Marco Alpert ma...@alpert.com wrote:
 For anyone who doubts the level of macho cred this guitar will provide, I 
 offer this picture taken of me a couple of years ago at the editorial offices 
 of Guitar Player Magazine:

 https://www.dropbox.com/s/n6aqrqkfb64dafc/hellokitty.jpg?dl=0

 Enough said.

 - Marco

 On Mar 20, 2015, at 2:47 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

 Greetings fellow Pentax afficianadoes,
 I know there are some musicians on the group, and I can't let this For
 Sale Friday go without letting you know about a highly collectible
 Squire Hello Kitty PINK Stratocaster kit that I have for sale. It is
 currently listed on eBay along with a video review:
 http://goo.gl/bu8INL

 Whether you want to
 make people stand up and take notice at your unusual instrument the
 next time you play, or you have a young beginner in mindthis is a
 quality full size instrument with the simplicity that a single
 humbucker/volume knob provides.

 If you wish to make an offer off-ebay I can cancel the auction. This
 is a NICE kit including guitar, nylon backpack case, new sealed box of
 collectible Fender Hello Kitty picks from 2005 (no longer
 available), a multi-color strap that matches the guitar nicely and a
 new set of Ernie Ball Super Squishy strings.

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Re: We interrupt these reminiscences for a PESO -- On the March

2015-03-20 Thread Bill

On 20/03/2015 12:02 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Invading alien platoon or just shrubs wrapped against the winter?

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17987093size=lg

(K-5, DA 40/2.8 ltd)

Once you comment on the photo (constructively, appreciatively, or dismissively) 
please resume the discussion already in progress.

Cheers,

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I know I'm going to take flak for this, but they look like they are on 
their way to a Mosque.


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RE: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread John Coyle
Bob Blakeley is still around - his Facebook page showed his birthday was on 
March 11.  He is now
retired.

John in Brisbane



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On 19/03/2015 6:53 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
 Serious question: How did you find out at the PDML?
 (Everyone please feel free to pipe up here.)

 I probably found out about the PDML from the Pentax official web site, 
 way back when the PDML was actually run by Pentax. But I'm wondering 
 how *anyone* would even learn of the PDML's existence these days.



Through the Pentax USA website, sometime in 1998.
What ever became of Bob Blakely?


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Re: Christ Church Cathedral

2015-03-20 Thread David Mann
On Mar 21, 2015, at 11:10 am, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
 
 Quoting David Mann dmann...@gmail.com:
 
 Here's the view from the street of Christ Church Cathedral in Darwin.  The 
 stone portion is all that remains from the original building, which was 
 destroyed by Cyclone Tracy in 1974.
 
 http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/889/#peso
 
 
 I read the subject as Christchurch Cathedral - which would have made sense 
 too...
 What's the current status of that, by the way?

It's still in a pretty sorry state.  The legal wrangling is becoming so drawn 
out that the building will probably fall down before it's resolved.  The fight 
is about restoring it and making it safe vs demolishing and putting up a new 
building.  Both options are hideously expensive.

Here's the latest:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/business/the-rebuild/67435755/Rebuilding-Christ-Church-Cathedral-is-not-a-compromise-says-Jim-Anderton

In the mean time there was a temporary cathedral built a couple of blocks away, 
on the site of another church which collapsed.
http://www.christchurchnz.com/destinations/christchurch/cardboard-cathedral/

 The Darwin one is an interesting looking structure - not at all what most 
 people expect a cathedral to look like.

I'd like to have gone in for a look.  I'd read about the Cyclone Tracy memorial 
window and was curious to see it.
There's a photo of it here:

http://christchurchcathedral.org.au/about/cathedral/

Next door is the old town hall which was left as a memorial ruin after the 
cyclone.  I don't think I took a photo of that so you'll have to take a look 
for yourself.

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Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark C wrote:

I sparred with Shel a few times but never felt offended - he was a 
memorable character. 

I'd say buying an FA 77 Limited from Bill Robb and not paying for it
goes a bit beyond memorable.

There were others, much much worse, whoo shall not be named...

Oh come on, let's name them!

I think I joined the PDML just after the character who called himself
The Who left. I got to see a little of the wreckage he left in his
wake.

Suda Mafud/Kirkland Ramsey/M.T. Green was one of the least offensive
(and longest lasting) oddballs we had. Most amusing when he posted as
one identity when accidentally using the email address of another
(Doug Brewer tells me he signed onto the list under several more
aliases, albeit briefly). He was one of the characters suited to a
text-only medium because he didn't want anyone to see what his
photography looked like. He hated digital on principle (though what
principle was never clear) and kind of faded away when the web and
digital got so widespread and inexpensive that he couldn't think up
any plausible excuses for not showing his photography to anyone.

I think it was Brad Bobo (am I getting that name right?) who set a
kind of benchmark for offensiveness. One year at Grandfather Mountain
we got a (very welcome) surprise visit from one-time PDML regular Norm
Baugher. When Tom Van Veen (another PDML stalwart who's no longer on
the list) approached him Norm stuck out his hand and introduced
himself as Brad Dobo, causing Tom to literally step back and prepare
for a possible fist fight. Really. Then Norm revealed his true
identity and collapsed in a fit of laughter. (Later, some time around
1:00 in the morning, we phoned up Cotty to say hello... and ni!)

 
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interesting article describing how autofocus works

2015-03-20 Thread Tom Reese
probably nothing new to some of you but I learned quite a bit from this:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/photography/tips-and-solutions/how-focus-works?BI=4906

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Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread Bill

On 20/03/2015 6:31 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Mark C wrote:


I sparred with Shel a few times but never felt offended - he was a
memorable character.


I'd say buying an FA 77 Limited from Bill Robb and not paying for it
goes a bit beyond memorable.


Yeah, lets just open that fukkin wound and soak it in salt water shall we?

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Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread Mark C

On 3/20/2015 8:31 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Mark C wrote:


I sparred with Shel a few times but never felt offended - he was a
memorable character.

I'd say buying an FA 77 Limited from Bill Robb and not paying for it
goes a bit beyond memorable.
I was off list for a year or two in the early aughts and missed that 
particular battle. I'm sure I would have recalled it if it played out in 
the list.



There were others, much much worse, whoo shall not be named...

Oh come on, let's name them!

I think I joined the PDML just after the character who called himself
The Who left. I got to see a little of the wreckage he left in his
wake.

I recall him as Whoo with two o's but I'd rather not recall him at all.

Suda Mafud/Kirkland Ramsey/M.T. Green was one of the least offensive
(and longest lasting) oddballs we had.
I forgot about Mafud. And then there was the nice guy Valentin who 
transformed into Caveman and sorta went off the rails.


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Re: PDML Digest, Vol 107, Issue 68

2015-03-20 Thread Eric Weir

 On Mar 19, 2015, at 5:56 PM, Donald Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 These are of a bike ride I took a week ago across a half mile 13 story high 
 bridge spanning the Des Moines river valley.

Nice that they didn’t put the trail down in the valley.

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Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread Mark Roberts
Brian Walters wrote:

There is an info page of sorts - the PDML FAQ.

It was put together originally by Graywolf and updated by Scott when  
he was PUGmeister. I sort of inherited it when I took over the PUG.  I  
tinkered with it a bit and used to post the link from time to time but  
I've omitted to do so for a few years.

Anyway, here it is:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/mini-faq.html

Also, tangentially related, is the Hitchhiker's Guide to the
Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend:
http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=58
 
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Re: Book Report: How the PDML Photo Annual is coming along

2015-03-20 Thread Bruce Walker
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Mark Roberts
postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 19/3/15, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:

Truth be to tell, Mark and Doug are doing almost all the work. I get to
go through the pictures and make snarky comments about them.

So actually you have the best job.

 No, I have the best job; I get to read Bill's snarky comments.

Don't forget about us poor slobs who submit the very reasons for
Bill's snarky comments.

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Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 20/3/15, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

 Brad Bobo (am I getting that name right?) 

Dobo.

I like Bobo better though

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Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 8:31 AM, Mark Roberts
postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Mark C wrote:

 Then Norm revealed his true
 identity and collapsed in a fit of laughter. (Later, some time around
 1:00 in the morning, we phoned up Cotty to say hello... and ni!)

I think it was closer to 2 am.:-) and yes it was brad Dobo. I had fear
in my heart for a while after distributing Dario's Pentax poster one
year. I mailed his to Brads home and in a moment of stupidity attached
my return address. I seated that for month. ans he only lived a few
hours west of me.

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Re: PDML Digest, Vol 107, Issue 75

2015-03-20 Thread Donald Guthrie

Oh hell yes. Of course it was an Railroad trestle originally.

On 3/20/15 8:21 AM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
Message: 10 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 08:32:44 -0400 From: Eric Weir 
eew...@bellsouth.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net 
Subject: Re: PDML Digest, Vol 107, Issue 68 Message-ID: 
baf5d65d-7fee-48c3-b240-f2513c8d8...@bellsouth.net Content-Type: 
text/plain; charset=utf-8

On Mar 19, 2015, at 5:56 PM, Donald Guthrieshark50...@gmail.com  wrote:

These are of a bike ride I took a week ago across a half mile 13 story high 
bridge spanning the Des Moines river valley.

Nice that they didn?t put the trail down in the valley.

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Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread steve harley

On 2015-03-19 17:41 , Bill wrote:

Because it's a private email list, I suspect we would have to involve Doug
and see if we can get ourselves on some search engines.


it's not private, it's just that the archives are not well-positioned for 
search engines, but i get hits on them sometimes


http://pdml.net/pipermail/pdml_pdml.net/

and there is also a non-official archive:

https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/


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Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread P.J. Alling

On 3/20/2015 8:53 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 20/3/15, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:


Brad Bobo (am I getting that name right?)

Dobo.

I like Bobo better though

It's not nice to make fun of the clinically insane, not that I wouldn't 
do it.


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Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread P.J. Alling

On 3/20/2015 8:37 AM, Bill wrote:

On 20/03/2015 6:31 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Mark C wrote:


I sparred with Shel a few times but never felt offended - he was a
memorable character.


I'd say buying an FA 77 Limited from Bill Robb and not paying for it
goes a bit beyond memorable.


Yeah, lets just open that fukkin wound and soak it in salt water shall 
we?


bill


I never realized he /never/ paid you.  If I'd known I'd have thought a 
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PESO 2015 - 042 - GDG

2015-03-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Oh, the madding crowds do pass ... 

 https://flic.kr/p/roJQH2

Early breakfast at the cafe yesterday. A beautiful morning. 

enjoy,
G

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Re: PDML Digest, Vol 107, Issue 68

2015-03-20 Thread Bruce
I appreciate your comments.  Thanks for taking the time to put together such a 
well worded response.  I am looking for something small and light that I can 
take with me when I am not really going out to take pictures with my current 
equipment.  Right now that would end up being my iPhone - which is also 
something to consider.  Anyone out there ever used any of the clip on lenses 
for the iPhone?  Any thoughts about that vs something like the Q?

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On March 19, 2015 2:56:31 PM PDT, Donald Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
Bruce, handling is not a word I would use with the Q. It is light and 
fits in one hand nicely. I carried it that way on this walk  gave it
no 
thought until I saw something to photograph. Once when I was on  a tall

bridge in the wind, I did think maybe a wrist strap would be nice but I

don't want to encumber it that much.   As I mentioned elsewhere I it 
will make an excellent bu camera when traveling. Something to carry
when 
you have nothing in particular in mind but handy when something jumps 
up. But it is easy to forget you have it with you. I think it would
work 
for street and festival shooting quite nicely as it is not the least
bit 
scary about it. People take no notice of it when shooting.

Technically it is very capable. Auto would work 99% of the time. I
shoot 
raw and AV but only out of habit. It has some tricks (HDR, Dramatic BW.

ND filters) that I have not played with too much. I have the kit lens 
and the Toy Fisheye  will pick up the prime lens soon. If you pop a 
standard lens with an adapter it does have focus peeking and zoom in 
focus with manual lenses. The 28mm adds some bulk but still easy enuf
to 
carry  use. (altho my manual focusing has never been the best)
anything 
longer than the 28mm might require tripod even with IS. But even a
100mm 
macro lens would give you the reach 0f 500+ mm and it gets tough find 
subject and focus w/o tripod.

While it's light it seems solid and not a toy. You can hold it like any

other camera but It is small enuf to shoot one handed and get into 
places other cameras won't go. Depth of field is the weak point of 
course. Small sensor and small apertures give great DOP damn physics.  

There is a built in software cheat but have not had time to try it.
Sort 
of that faux tilt shift mode I assume. However you will not stop down 
past F5.6 because de-fraction   beats you up pretty quickly.

Any specific questions fire away. I have one more set in que on:

  https://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157649084439983/

These are of a bike ride I took a week ago across a half mile 13 story 
high bridge spanning the Des Moines river valley.


I also will be posting a scene I took with the Q and my Kr at the same 
time. The differences are not all that great, but the carrying weight 
sure is.

Thanks for you interest.

On 3/19/15 10:36 AM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
 Message: 8 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 08:25:20 -0700 From: Bruce 
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 pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Geso Q landscapes Message-ID: 
 8fdcba1d-8149-4b6b-a374-fe0236935...@email.android.com
Content-Type: 
 text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Some good shots, there. Seems that the Q 
 system is capable of some good shots - we know the photographer is
not 
 the weak link in the chain. How was handling of the camera/lenses? 
 Have you attempted anything with really shallow DOF and how did it 
 turn out? -- Bruce On March 17, 2015 11:55:57 AM PDT, Donald Guthrie 
 shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here are a few landscape type shots taken with the Q7. The first 5
were
 
 taken with kit zoom. The second 5 were taken using the Pentax M
28mm
 with a $20 adapter. The 4.6 crop factor results in 128 FL.
 
 Comments invited.
 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157650976431200/
 
 https://flic.kr/s/aHsk8Jw9U9
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Re: We interrupt these reminiscences for a PESO -- On the March

2015-03-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is bizarre -- and interesting.
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On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Rick Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote:
 Invading alien platoon or just shrubs wrapped against the winter?

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17987093size=lg

 (K-5, DA 40/2.8 ltd)

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Everything you ever wanted to know about PDML...

2015-03-20 Thread Brian Walters

..and some you might not.

Just posting the FAQ link, which is buried in the 'Where is Everyone'  
thread, in case anyone is interested.


http://pug.komkon.org/general/mini-faq.html


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Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com:


Brian Walters wrote:


There is an info page of sorts - the PDML FAQ.

It was put together originally by Graywolf and updated by Scott when
he was PUGmeister. I sort of inherited it when I took over the PUG.  I
tinkered with it a bit and used to post the link from time to time but
I've omitted to do so for a few years.

Anyway, here it is:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/mini-faq.html


Also, tangentially related, is the Hitchhiker's Guide to the
Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend:
http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=58




Link added to the FAQ under the GFM acronym.


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Computer Colour is Broken

2015-03-20 Thread David Mann
I thought some of you guys might find this interesting... it's something I've 
never actually noticed.

https://youtu.be/LKnqECcg6Gw

It's only a couple of minutes long (my biggest gripe about Youtube is that I 
have no way of finding out how long a video is without starting to play it).

Cheers,
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Re: PESO 2015 - 042 - GDG

2015-03-20 Thread David Mann
Very nice.

Cheers,
Dave

 On Mar 21, 2015, at 4:38 am, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote:
 
 Oh, the madding crowds do pass ... 
 
 https://flic.kr/p/roJQH2
 
 Early breakfast at the cafe yesterday. A beautiful morning. 
 
 enjoy,
 G
 
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Re: Peso - Old Salt

2015-03-20 Thread Ken Waller

Any moor and I think I'll ship out...

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- Original Message - 
From: Tom Reese tomreesep...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: Peso - Old Salt



yeah this thread has gone to hull

On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Rick Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote:

Please! No moor puns!
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:



On 3/20/2015 15:11, John wrote:


Shouldn't that have been if my piers find it interesting?


May have to dock you for that groaner

ann



On 3/18/2015 3:47 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:


There is a reason I'm being coy, Ken..
but really, all I needed to know is if my peers find it interesting in
itself... and a number of you have said it is so... I'm good.

Thanks
ann

On 3/18/2015 15:39, Ken Waller wrote:


Without knowing what you're trying to to with the image its hard for 
me

to make a suggestion.

As posted, its interesting to me.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele 
ann...@nyc.rr.com

Subject: Peso - Old Salt



Digging into old film stuff for a project - needed more photos of
the area back in the day.  This was at the South Street Seaport as
it was in February, 1977.  Pentax KX , Tri-x neg scanned with the
Epson v500


http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-City-back-in-the-day/i-cdH3zt9/L




Wondering if this is interesting in itself or if you need the
contrast of what that exact spot looks like to day to make it so.

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Re: Book Report: How the PDML Photo Annual is coming along

2015-03-20 Thread Stanley Halpin

On Mar 20, 2015, at 7:38 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:

 Steve Cottrell wrote:
 
 On 19/3/15, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Truth be to tell, Mark and Doug are doing almost all the work. I get to 
 go through the pictures and make snarky comments about them.
 
 So actually you have the best job.
 
 No, I have the best job; I get to read Bill's snarky comments.
 
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So is that where you and Doug get your inspiration for your critiques at 
Grandfather Mountain? It has been Bill all along!?!

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Re: Peso - Old Salt

2015-03-20 Thread Ann Sanfedele



On 3/20/2015 15:11, John wrote:

Shouldn't that have been if my piers find it interesting?

May have to dock you for that groaner

ann



On 3/18/2015 3:47 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

There is a reason I'm being coy, Ken..
but really, all I needed to know is if my peers find it interesting in
itself... and a number of you have said it is so... I'm good.

Thanks
ann

On 3/18/2015 15:39, Ken Waller wrote:

Without knowing what you're trying to to with the image its hard for me
to make a suggestion.

As posted, its interesting to me.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
Subject: Peso - Old Salt



Digging into old film stuff for a project - needed more photos of
the area back in the day.  This was at the South Street Seaport as
it was in February, 1977.  Pentax KX , Tri-x neg scanned with the
Epson v500

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-City-back-in-the-day/i-cdH3zt9/L




Wondering if this is interesting in itself or if you need the
contrast of what that exact spot looks like to day to make it so.

ann









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Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread steve harley

On 2015-03-20 14:23 , John wrote:

Some time in (I believe) late 2006 Google bought out the UseNet Archive
and my ISP (Time-Warner Roadrunner) announced they were going to shut
down their news servers.


Google bought the archive (which means they will probably delete it 
someday), but doesn't control Usenet, just provides probably the most-used 
interface to it these days


in the early days (pre-web) access to nntp content was a given, and then in 
the middle years my ISPs had solid nntp servers, but these days it looks 
like it is pay to play if you want to avoid google


i just took a peek into rec.photo.digital and to see what we are missing, 
and felt no desire to stick around ;?






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Re: Peso - Old Salt

2015-03-20 Thread steve harley

On 2015-03-17 23:16 , Ann Sanfedele wrote:

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-City-back-in-the-day/i-cdH3zt9/L


Wondering if this is interesting in itself or if you need the
contrast of what that exact spot looks like to day to make it so.


absolutely interesting in itself; i walked through the Seaport a couple of 
years ago while it was under repair, but it seemed pretty 
commercial/touristy, and i wouldn't even bother with a comparison




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Re: We interrupt these reminiscences for a PESO -- On the March

2015-03-20 Thread Tom Reese
I thought this was a photo of the PDML Canadian contingent while they
were still in hibernation?

Well spotted Rick. A nice bit of whimsy.


On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote:
 I always wondered what happened to the Triffids.

 Alan C

 -Original Message- From: Rick Womer
 Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 8:02 PM
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 Subject: We interrupt these reminiscences for a PESO -- On the March

 Invading alien platoon or just shrubs wrapped against the winter?

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17987093size=lg

 (K-5, DA 40/2.8 ltd)

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Re: Peso - Old Salt

2015-03-20 Thread John

Shouldn't that have been if my piers find it interesting?

On 3/18/2015 3:47 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

There is a reason I'm being coy, Ken..
but really, all I needed to know is if my peers find it interesting in
itself... and a number of you have said it is so... I'm good.

Thanks
ann

On 3/18/2015 15:39, Ken Waller wrote:

Without knowing what you're trying to to with the image its hard for me
to make a suggestion.

As posted, its interesting to me.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
Subject: Peso - Old Salt



Digging into old film stuff for a project - needed more photos of
the area back in the day.  This was at the South Street Seaport as
it was in February, 1977.  Pentax KX , Tri-x neg scanned with the
Epson v500

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-City-back-in-the-day/i-cdH3zt9/L



Wondering if this is interesting in itself or if you need the
contrast of what that exact spot looks like to day to make it so.

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Re: We interrupt these reminiscences for a PESO -- On the March

2015-03-20 Thread Jack Davis
They look a lot like mummy plants. 

Jack

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Subject: We interrupt these reminiscences for a PESO -- On the March

Invading alien platoon or just shrubs wrapped against the winter?

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17987093size=lg

(K-5, DA 40/2.8 ltd)

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Re: Peso - Old Salt

2015-03-20 Thread John

Right. What I was trying to say is it IS interesting on its own, but it
would still be interesting if you chose to pair it with another image.

So either way you win.

On 3/18/2015 2:54 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Looks a whole lot different now :-)

My concern mainly was that it was interesting in itself
as part of the old days essay so to speak

ann

On 3/18/2015 12:45, John wrote:

On 3/18/2015 1:16 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Digging into old film stuff for a project - needed more photos of
the area back in the day.  This was at the South Street Seaport as
it was in February, 1977.  Pentax KX , Tri-x neg scanned with the
Epson v500

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-City-back-in-the-day/i-cdH3zt9/L




Wondering if this is interesting in itself or if you need the
contrast of what that exact spot looks like to day to make it so.

ann



I think it stands by itself, but whether the contrast with today would
help it or not depends more on what today looks like.





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We interrupt these reminiscences for a PESO -- On the March

2015-03-20 Thread Rick Womer
Invading alien platoon or just shrubs wrapped against the winter?

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17987093size=lg

(K-5, DA 40/2.8 ltd)

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Re: We interrupt these reminiscences for a PESO -- On the March

2015-03-20 Thread Alan C

I always wondered what happened to the Triffids.

Alan C

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Invading alien platoon or just shrubs wrapped against the winter?

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17987093size=lg

(K-5, DA 40/2.8 ltd)

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Re: Yeux Fatale -- Not competing with McCurry (PESO)

2015-03-20 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Rick,
Thanks for the clarification.
Yes, I saw that Dag has quite a few photos of his kids posted.
I suspect, he actually shoots much more than he posts. Well, at least, I 
do.


Speaking about pedantic: A small detail, - those aren't actually sheets: 
she is sitting in a white chair holding the chair pillow in front of her 
face.


Ann, I had to google Anne Geddes (I am bad with remembering names), and 
the first link (to her website) has a (self-)description:

Photographer known for her pictures of infants in whimsical settings.
I don't think that applies to me. But I don't think she deserves to be 
beaten... even by my photo.

:-)
[again, speaking about pedantic...]

Thank you for the accolades.

Igor


 Ann Sanfedele Wed, 18 Mar 2015 07:58:59 -0700 wrote:

I agree with Rick's comments - it's the minimalism
and your photo sure beats Anne Geddes

ann

On 3/17/2015 21:19, Rick Womer wrote:

Igor, it's that the composition is very simple--white sheets and the
top part of a very expressive face. Dag also does a lot of shots of
his kids.

Rick
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On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 5:33 PM, Igor PDML-StR pdmlstr at komkon.org 

wrote:


Rick,
I was not quite sure which part is from Dag Thrane, and had to
take a fresh look at his photos... I'm still puzzled by that reference...

Thank you, Mark, Ken, Christin, Frank and all who looked.

Igor


  Rick Womer Mon, 16 Mar 2015 16:40:22 -0700

Steve McCurry crossed with Dag Thrane, maybe?

I like it!


Rick


On Sun, 15 Mar 2015, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




http://42graphy.org/misc/ru-2013/_IR40218.html


[... albeit not dark]
No, not sad am I, nor so mad am I;
All my comforts lie in my destiny.
Just to realise my life's worthiest prize
Did I sacrifice for those ardent eyes!
( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnoCI2N9nWw  )


Found this photo while sorting our some photos from more than 2 years ago.
All comments are welcome!

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GESO Clarks latest visit

2015-03-20 Thread David J Brooks
http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2015-clark3/album/index.html

The war department and I went to visit friends north of us to show off
Clark and to see our retired TB Megan.
Oh and Erin went as well. The lady we went to see has a nickname of Ma
II, since she looked after Erin as a kid for a long time while Liz was
working and i was out of town a lot.

So she is now Nana II.:-)

K-5 with recently repaired Sigma 17-70

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Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread John

Most email clients seem to default to a HTML/MIME interface now-a-days,
and people coming to the internet lately don't even know about plain text.

The PDML's plain text requirement may pose problems for such Know
Nothing Newcomers.

I prefer plain text, but it's getting increasingly difficult to get
others to use it when sending me emails. Now-a-days I get a lot email
that just consists of a message telling me I don't have my email client
configured correctly  a link to some site where I'm supposedly able to
read the email in a browser.

Pretty much I just delete them. If they're that stupid, they don't
really have anything I want to hear about anyway.

If I wanted to read emails in a browser, I'd be using web-mail. PDML's
plain text only format suits me just fine.


On 3/19/2015 7:25 PM, John Coyle wrote:



-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen
Sent: Friday, 20 March 2015 8:05 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Where is everyone?

I think I found it in 1997, probably by doing a search for Pentax information 
on the Web - whether
it was Google or not I can't now remember.
I stay with the group because:
I am still a self-confessed fan boy.
This group can answer more questions and provide more real-world 
guidance than any other
group I have come across.
I've owned and used Pentax cameras almost exclusively for 47 years 
(OMG!!), and probably
always will.

I like the plain text, it's easy, and there is no chance of some pest slipping 
in malware via HTML:
I like too the fact that I can choose which messages to retain, and just delete 
the rest.  On
another photo group Facebook hosted, the messages just accumulate, seemingly 
forever.

I've only physically met a couple of other PDML-ers (living in Australia it 
tends to be hard to meet
up with others), but I feel I know most of the people in this group reasonably 
well from their input
over the years.


Mark Roberts wrote:

Serious question: How did you find out at the PDML?
(Everyone please feel free to pipe up here.)





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Re: PDML Digest, Vol 107, Issue 75

2015-03-20 Thread Eric Weir

 On Mar 20, 2015, at 11:30 AM, Donald Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Oh hell yes. Of course it was an Railroad trestle originally.

There are a few photos of a high brick railway trestle near Chappel, Essex in 
this album. 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/eeweir/10144706213/in/album-72157636303781576/lightbox/
 Taken on my 2013 trip to England. The trestle is quite old—I don’t remember 
how old—and still in use. 

Notice “circa 1350” on the photo of the Swan Inn. I don’t think the trestle’s 
quite that old. 

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Re: PESO 2015 - 042 - GDG

2015-03-20 Thread Bob W-PDML
That's a nice shot. For some reason it reminds me of Jacques Brel's Les 
Bourgeois, except of course in the song the 3 young men are looking out from 
the bar at the 3 old bourgeois passing by...

B



 On 20 Mar 2015, at 15:39, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote:
 
 Oh, the madding crowds do pass ... 
 
 https://flic.kr/p/roJQH2
 
 Early breakfast at the cafe yesterday. A beautiful morning. 
 
 enjoy,
 G
 
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Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread John

On 3/19/2015 8:53 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Serious question: How did you find out at the PDML?
(Everyone please feel free to pipe up here.)

I probably found out about the PDML from the Pentax official web site,
way back when the PDML was actually run by Pentax. But I'm wondering
how *anyone* would even learn of the PDML's existence these days.


I used to participate in UseNet discussions on
rec.photo.equipment.35mm (among others).

Some time in (I believe) late 2006 Google bought out the UseNet Archive
and my ISP (Time-Warner Roadrunner) announced they were going to shut
down their news servers.

The Google Groups interface just didn't work for me, so I was looking for
an alternative. I don't remember how I found out about mailing lists, but I
do remember that once I did I already knew there was one for Pentax.

So I Googled for it  found PDML.


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Re: We interrupt these reminiscences for a PESO -- On the March

2015-03-20 Thread P.J. Alling

I had no idea triffids had learned how to dress themselves.

On 3/20/2015 2:02 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Invading alien platoon or just shrubs wrapped against the winter?

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17987093size=lg

(K-5, DA 40/2.8 ltd)

Once you comment on the photo (constructively, appreciatively, or dismissively) 
please resume the discussion already in progress.

Cheers,

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Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Mark Roberts
postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 steve harley wrote:

On 2015-03-20 14:23 , John wrote:
 Some time in (I believe) late 2006 Google bought out the UseNet Archive
 and my ISP (Time-Warner Roadrunner) announced they were going to shut
 down their news servers.

Google bought the archive (which means they will probably delete it
someday), but doesn't control Usenet, just provides probably the most-used
interface to it these days

 Yep. The old web archiving service was called DejaNews. Google bought
 them out and then was even more lax than DejaNews in enforcing their
 TOS. This predictably led to even more trolling and other abuse, which
 is probably exactly wanted to drive traffic away from Usenet and
 toward web sites. Not that it wouldn't have happened anyway, but
 Google certainly helped it happen faster and to a greater extent.

i just took a peek into rec.photo.digital and to see what we are missing,
and felt no desire to stick around ;?

 You're a brave man. ;-)

I still have a usefilm account

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Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread Mark Roberts
steve harley wrote:

On 2015-03-20 14:23 , John wrote:
 Some time in (I believe) late 2006 Google bought out the UseNet Archive
 and my ISP (Time-Warner Roadrunner) announced they were going to shut
 down their news servers.

Google bought the archive (which means they will probably delete it 
someday), but doesn't control Usenet, just provides probably the most-used 
interface to it these days

Yep. The old web archiving service was called DejaNews. Google bought
them out and then was even more lax than DejaNews in enforcing their
TOS. This predictably led to even more trolling and other abuse, which
is probably exactly wanted to drive traffic away from Usenet and
toward web sites. Not that it wouldn't have happened anyway, but
Google certainly helped it happen faster and to a greater extent.

i just took a peek into rec.photo.digital and to see what we are missing, 
and felt no desire to stick around ;?

You're a brave man. ;-)
 
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For Sale Friday:Hello Kitty Squier Stratocater kit (highly collectible)

2015-03-20 Thread Darren Addy
Greetings fellow Pentax afficianadoes,
I know there are some musicians on the group, and I can't let this For
Sale Friday go without letting you know about a highly collectible
Squire Hello Kitty PINK Stratocaster kit that I have for sale. It is
currently listed on eBay along with a video review:
http://goo.gl/bu8INL

Whether you want to
make people stand up and take notice at your unusual instrument the
next time you play, or you have a young beginner in mindthis is a
quality full size instrument with the simplicity that a single
humbucker/volume knob provides.

If you wish to make an offer off-ebay I can cancel the auction. This
is a NICE kit including guitar, nylon backpack case, new sealed box of
collectible Fender Hello Kitty picks from 2005 (no longer
available), a multi-color strap that matches the guitar nicely and a
new set of Ernie Ball Super Squishy strings.

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Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread mike wilson
On 19 March 2015 at 23:42, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 19/03/2015 6:12 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:

 Seriously if I hung out regularly at any of the other Pentax fora or for
 that matter Nikon or Canon groups I'd have invented a way to teleport
 bombs through the internet by now.


 That's a Mark.

There seems to be about two years' worth of reMARK!able comments in this thread.

I'm another joiner from the Pentax USA days.  Can only think of four
(maybe five) present day contributors who were here when I started.
I'm not too bothered about active recruitment - I would prefer to meet
those who actively search and join, as I did.

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Re: PESO - El Capitan

2015-03-20 Thread Brian Walters

'morning all

Thanks for all the kind comments - much appreciated.

Ann - the image was given basic levels adjustment etc and then I let  
loose Silver Efex Pro on it.  Did a bit more local adjustment until I  
got it the way I wanted.



Cheers

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Quoting Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com:

Nice job - You made the lighting work for you .  MY old technique in  
film days was to slap a red or orange filter on camera bearing the  
Tri-x for midday shooting (not that it wash my technique I learned  
it from photo mags) - whatever you did post processing here works  
like that

just as nicely.

Nice geology :-)

ann





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Re: Christ Church Cathedral

2015-03-20 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting David Mann dmann...@gmail.com:

Here's the view from the street of Christ Church Cathedral in  
Darwin.  The stone portion is all that remains from the original  
building, which was destroyed by Cyclone Tracy in 1974.


http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/889/#peso



I read the subject as Christchurch Cathedral - which would have made  
sense too...


What's the current status of that, by the way?

The Darwin one is an interesting looking structure - not at all what  
most people expect a cathedral to look like.




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Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread mike wilson
On 20 March 2015 at 15:44, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 3/20/2015 8:37 AM, Bill wrote:

 On 20/03/2015 6:31 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 Mark C wrote:

 I sparred with Shel a few times but never felt offended - he was a
 memorable character.


 I'd say buying an FA 77 Limited from Bill Robb and not paying for it
 goes a bit beyond memorable.


 Yeah, lets just open that fukkin wound and soak it in salt water shall we?

 bill


 I never realized he /never/ paid you.  If I'd known I'd have thought a lot
 less of him.

Not his only offence, unfortunately.  Me being particularly stupid, I
was stung twice - albeit for substantially less, I suspect.
And no, you can't sell me a bridge.

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Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 6:03 PM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 On 19 March 2015 at 23:42, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 19/03/2015 6:12 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:

 Seriously if I hung out regularly at any of the other Pentax fora or for
 that matter Nikon or Canon groups I'd have invented a way to teleport
 bombs through the internet by now.


 That's a Mark.

 There seems to be about two years' worth of reMARK!able comments in this 
 thread.

 I'm another joiner from the Pentax USA days.  Can only think of four
 (maybe five) present day contributors who were here when I started.
 I'm not too bothered about active recruitment - I would prefer to meet
 those who actively search and join, as I did.

I met Cotty, be careful of what your request, :-)

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Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 6:12 PM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 On 20 March 2015 at 15:44, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 3/20/2015 8:37 AM, Bill wrote:

 On 20/03/2015 6:31 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 Mark C wrote:

 I sparred with Shel a few times but never felt offended - he was a
 memorable character.


 I'd say buying an FA 77 Limited from Bill Robb and not paying for it
 goes a bit beyond memorable.


 Yeah, lets just open that fukkin wound and soak it in salt water shall we?

 bill


 I never realized he /never/ paid you.  If I'd known I'd have thought a lot
 less of him.

 Not his only offence, unfortunately.  Me being particularly stupid, I
 was stung twice - albeit for substantially less, I suspect.
 And no, you can't sell me a bridge.

What about rent a bridge

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Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread mike wilson
On 20 March 2015 at 22:16, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 6:12 PM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 On 20 March 2015 at 15:44, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 3/20/2015 8:37 AM, Bill wrote:

 On 20/03/2015 6:31 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 Mark C wrote:

 I sparred with Shel a few times but never felt offended - he was a
 memorable character.


 I'd say buying an FA 77 Limited from Bill Robb and not paying for it
 goes a bit beyond memorable.


 Yeah, lets just open that fukkin wound and soak it in salt water shall we?

 bill


 I never realized he /never/ paid you.  If I'd known I'd have thought a lot
 less of him.

 Not his only offence, unfortunately.  Me being particularly stupid, I
 was stung twice - albeit for substantially less, I suspect.
 And no, you can't sell me a bridge.

 What about rent a bridge

Tell me more.

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Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread Stanley Halpin

On Mar 20, 2015, at 6:12 PM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 On 20 March 2015 at 15:44, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 3/20/2015 8:37 AM, Bill wrote:
 
 On 20/03/2015 6:31 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
 
 Mark C wrote:
 
 I sparred with Shel a few times but never felt offended - he was a
 memorable character.
 
 
 I'd say buying an FA 77 Limited from Bill Robb and not paying for it
 goes a bit beyond memorable.
 
 
 Yeah, lets just open that fukkin wound and soak it in salt water shall we?
 
 bill
 
 
 I never realized he /never/ paid you.  If I'd known I'd have thought a lot
 less of him.
 
 Not his only offence, unfortunately.  Me being particularly stupid, I
 was stung twice - albeit for substantially less, I suspect.
 And no, you can't sell me a bridge.
 
For me, just once. He bought an LX from me, then claimed it wasn’t working. [He 
claimed the film advance was not working properly.] I should have had him just 
send it back but I gave him 50% off even though I knew that it had been working 
when I sent it and the packaging had been beyond careful. But I didn’t want to 
go through the selling process again and let him get away with it. 
stan
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Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 6:18 PM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 On 20 March 2015 at 22:16, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 6:12 PM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 On 20 March 2015 at 15:44, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 3/20/2015 8:37 AM, Bill wrote:

 On 20/03/2015 6:31 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 Mark C wrote:

 I sparred with Shel a few times but never felt offended - he was a
 memorable character.


 I'd say buying an FA 77 Limited from Bill Robb and not paying for it
 goes a bit beyond memorable.


 Yeah, lets just open that fukkin wound and soak it in salt water shall we?

 bill


 I never realized he /never/ paid you.  If I'd known I'd have thought a lot
 less of him.

 Not his only offence, unfortunately.  Me being particularly stupid, I
 was stung twice - albeit for substantially less, I suspect.
 And no, you can't sell me a bridge.

 What about rent a bridge

 Tell me more.

I will but it spans a few storys

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Re: interesting article describing how autofocus works

2015-03-20 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Tom Reese tomreesep...@gmail.com:


probably nothing new to some of you but I learned quite a bit from this:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/photography/tips-and-solutions/how-focus-works?BI=4906



Thanks for the link.  I never really thought about this much until I  
bought an Olympus E-M10 to complement my K-5.  Then I started to hear  
about Phase Detection versus Contrast Detection and had no clue as to  
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Re: Where is everyone?

2015-03-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Just glanced at this thread. There are 98 posts in it. Whew!
Now I know where everyone is: sitting at their computers, smart phones, or 
tablets… 

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Re: For Sale Friday:Hello Kitty Squier Stratocater kit (highly collectible)

2015-03-20 Thread P.J. Alling

Alright you win, this is possibly the strangest FS Friday I've ever read...

Yes I did look at the auction, which just makes it weirder.

On 3/20/2015 5:47 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Greetings fellow Pentax afficianadoes,
I know there are some musicians on the group, and I can't let this For
Sale Friday go without letting you know about a highly collectible
Squire Hello Kitty PINK Stratocaster kit that I have for sale. It is
currently listed on eBay along with a video review:
http://goo.gl/bu8INL

Whether you want to
make people stand up and take notice at your unusual instrument the
next time you play, or you have a young beginner in mindthis is a
quality full size instrument with the simplicity that a single
humbucker/volume knob provides.

If you wish to make an offer off-ebay I can cancel the auction. This
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collectible Fender Hello Kitty picks from 2005 (no longer
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