Re: OT - PESO - Blue on Blue

[Ann Sanfedele]

It is now April 13th and I can pause and do a bit of list looking...

Do have to say that my quip was made for those who were "aspiring" 
photographers - the 'I wanna be a photographer'  or 'it would be cool to 
be a photographer' crowd - not for those of you/us who are already 
photographers - who have used film cameras and know what DOF, F-stop, 
aperture , shutter speed are and -have- to record something they have

seen and have no camera with them at the time.  But you knew that, right
guys?

I like your beefed up image Frank.

ann


On 4/4/2015 09:59, Knarf wrote:

I'm off on a rideabout with my dslr, but I have to admit the convenience of taking and 
sending a picture from the camera is fun. On the way to the coffeeshop this morning, part 
of an ongoing "bike by the lake" series:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2015/04/blue-on-blue_74.html?m=1

I have to admit, Ann's admonishment to put away the phone cams (in the blog 
interview for her show) was a motivation, too. Did an in-cam HDR thing which 
may be a just a bit OTT but what the hell.  :-)

Hope you enjoy. Comments alway welcome.

Cheers,

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Re: Peso- snowdrop 2015

[Ann Sanfedele]

sweet shot

On 4/4/2015 14:14, paul stenquist wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17997989&size=lg



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Re: PESO - Detour

[Ann Sanfedele]

hmmm - those people make it.. do I want it in BW? not sure...

ann

On 4/4/2015 14:45, Rick Womer wrote:

On my way to work Tuesday morning, I took a brief detour through Woodland 
Cemetery.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17998001&size=lg

(K-5, DA 40/2.8 ltd)

Comments appreciated!

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Re: OT - PESO - One Day Later

[Ann Sanfedele]

Don't make me chose :-)

nice

ann

On 4/5/2015 09:27, Malcolm Smith wrote:

Knarf wrote:


http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2015/04/one-day-later.html?m=1


Great picture, wonderful bike - love the frame.

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Re: Light Blue Crocus

[Ann Sanfedele]

Ken said it

ann

On 4/8/2015 16:58, Ken Waller wrote:

Very nice capture Dan. Vibrant colors, good composition and a nicely
chosen DOF.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola"

Subject: PESO: Light Blue Crocus



Spring has finally reached our yard.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17998680&size=lg
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Re: Peso change in assignments

[Ann Sanfedele]

So predictable , Gramps :-)

Baby photos often just bring a gag response from me, but the
second one with the face on grandkid reflected in the bib is
a winner in the category.

ann

On 4/8/2015 14:13, David J Brooks wrote:

It seems my photography as morphed from Equine, through to rural
landscapes, to this.

I don't mind

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18000777
Clark with liz and flapjack

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18000778
On the table

K-5, Sigma 17-70, AF 360 for fill

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Re: GESO - Spring Ephemerals

[Ann Sanfedele]

Love 'em - I knw the hepatica, but the last one, the Erigenia bulbosa is 
unfamiliar to me - I love it that the one little seed is escaping in 
that shot and you captured the moment and didn't photoshop it out :-)


ann

On 4/10/2015 16:55, Mark C wrote:

Thanks, Dan!

On 4/9/2015 9:02 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

That is an excellent collection;  each image is pleasing in and of
itself, but all together they make a lovely photographic bouquet.

Dan Matyola
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On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Mark C  wrote:

A few more spring wildflowers -

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/more-spring-ephemeral-wildflowers


Comments welcome.

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Re: April PUG - Panorama - Now Up

[Ann Sanfedele]

As others have said, it's a really nice gallery overall
My personal faves include "Wet Feet" , Marco's "personal Space"
the Old farm by Filip and Jan's Horses at Canyon de Chelly.

and of course I love the punny  pan'o rama, too

ann

On 4/6/2015 20:06, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

Quite a large gallery of panoramas this month - lots of landscapes, as
might be expected.  My favourites are Dave's 'Wet Feet' - wonderful
light and reflections - and Stan's 'Iguazu Falls' - very dramatic, and
the rainbow doesn't hurt!

Most fun is Alan's 'Pan o' Rama 2-1'.

Jan's 'On Top of the World' brings back some pleasant memories for me
personally.

All in all, a great gallery - look for a bit of Esperanto in there as well.

Important!!  The images have been resized to fit on most monitors
without needing to scroll the images - in most cases, you can click on
an image to see the full size as submitted.

As usual, you'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
gallery, let me know.

+

Next up is 'Celebrating Autumn/Spring'.

Full Submissions Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

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Re: Light Blue Crocus

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Ann.

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On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> Ken said it
>
> ann
>
>
> On 4/8/2015 16:58, Ken Waller wrote:
>>
>> Very nice capture Dan. Vibrant colors, good composition and a nicely
>> chosen DOF.
>>
>> Kenneth Waller
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola"
>> 
>> Subject: PESO: Light Blue Crocus
>>
>>
>>> Spring has finally reached our yard.
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17998680&size=lg
>>> K-5 II S, F 100mm Macro f2.8
>>> Comments are invited.
>>>
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>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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Re: PESO: Oreo Dreams

[Ann Sanfedele]

I agree with Frank, but I'm going nuts trying to locate it - where were 
you exactly?  The building in the back from the 30's era is a fave of 
mine and I've lost where it is... (other than midtown Manhattan)


ann

On 4/12/2015 18:00, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Thanks, Frank.

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On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 9:20 PM, Knarf  wrote:

Love the light!

Very well captured.

Cheers,

frank

On 11 April, 2015 7:30:39 AM EDT, "Daniel J. Matyola"  
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Another slice of The City:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18002559&size=md
Optio S
Comments invited.

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Re: PESO: Oreo Dreams

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Ann.

Where is the building exactly?  Why, right over Duane Reade, of course.  .

There apparently are 10 different billboards nationally, three in NYC.
I think all three are along 7th Ave and Broadway, between Penn station
and 52d street.  I don't recall exactly where this one was located,
but if I had to guess, I would say 7th Ave between 35th and 38th.
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On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> I agree with Frank, but I'm going nuts trying to locate it - where were you
> exactly?  The building in the back from the 30's era is a fave of mine and
> I've lost where it is... (other than midtown Manhattan)
>
> ann
>
>
> On 4/12/2015 18:00, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Frank.
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 9:20 PM, Knarf  wrote:
>>>
>>> Love the light!
>>>
>>> Very well captured.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> frank
>>>
>>> On 11 April, 2015 7:30:39 AM EDT, "Daniel J. Matyola"
>>>  wrote:

 Another slice of The City:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18002559&size=md
 Optio S
 Comments invited.

 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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PESO: Ricoh on the Great White Way

[Daniel J. Matyola]

This weekend I spotted a Ricoh sign on Broadway:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18003877&size=lg
Comments are invited.

This doesn't appear to be the same sign they were touting as
"eco-friendly" a few years back:
http://www.ricoh.com/about/company/promotions/eco-billboards/newyork/

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Re: PESO 2015 - A Walk in Guadalupe River Park - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I won't have time to work on delivering the video presentation for a while, so 
I've posted an edited set of the Guadalupe River Park still photos to 
Flickr.com:

  A Walk in Guadalupe River Park 2015 - https://flic.kr/s/aHska6FmnU (22 photos)

Thanks for all the comments that you've sent me! :-)

G

"Mars is the only known planet inhabited entirely by robots."

> On Apr 12, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> Hmm. Sorry about that, but the video ran into bandwidth limitations … Seems a 
> LOT of folks started looking at it and caused DropBox a panic. I've removed 
> the video until I can figure out what to do for streaming presentations like 
> this.
> 
> Here's one still from the set:
>  https://flic.kr/p/s6h6ci
> 
> I'll figure out what to do about the video and bandwidth in due course, but 
> don't have time today.
> 
> A couple of folks did get to the video before it was locked out and 
> commented. 
> Thank you for the comments! They are very helpful. :-)


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Re: PESO: Oreo Dreams

[Ann Sanfedele]

ah - a place I rarely visit -  The only reason I get even close to that 
is going to B&H... or getting a train from Penn Station  :-)


thanks  - right near Duane Reade -that's like saying right near 
Starbucks lol


On 4/13/2015 10:40, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Thanks, Ann.

Where is the building exactly?  Why, right over Duane Reade, of course.  .

There apparently are 10 different billboards nationally, three in NYC.
I think all three are along 7th Ave and Broadway, between Penn station
and 52d street.  I don't recall exactly where this one was located,
but if I had to guess, I would say 7th Ave between 35th and 38th.
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On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

I agree with Frank, but I'm going nuts trying to locate it - where were you
exactly?  The building in the back from the 30's era is a fave of mine and
I've lost where it is... (other than midtown Manhattan)

ann


On 4/12/2015 18:00, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


Thanks, Frank.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 9:20 PM, Knarf  wrote:


Love the light!

Very well captured.

Cheers,

frank

On 11 April, 2015 7:30:39 AM EDT, "Daniel J. Matyola"
 wrote:


Another slice of The City:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18002559&size=md
Optio S
Comments invited.

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Re: PESO: Oreo Dreams,Message-ID:

[Donald Guthrie]

I had a craving for Oreo cookies all weekend. Maybe it was your photo 
but I always crave cookies so maybe not. Nice photo; back to my diet.


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Another slice of The City:
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Re: PESO: Oreo Dreams,Message-ID:

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Don.

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On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Donald Guthrie  wrote:
> I had a craving for Oreo cookies all weekend. Maybe it was your photo but I
> always crave cookies so maybe not. Nice photo; back to my diet.
>
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Re: PESO: A Face in the Crowd

[John]

Excellent!

On 4/12/2015 9:46 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

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K-01, DA 1:2.8 40mm XS
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Re: PESO: Oreo Dreams

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On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> right near Duane Reade -that's like saying right near Starbucks lol

Indeed.

I believe I read that Duane Reade is merging with another retail
drugstore chain, and that some of the local stores (which are now on
almost every corner in the city) may be closed.

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Re: PESO: A Face in the Crowd

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Thanks, John.

She was looking up at the street sign while surrounded by a crowd of
people crossing the street, and her expression caught my eye, so I
grabbed a quick shot and it came out better than I expected, although
not as sharp as I would have liked.  I was carrying only the K-01 with
the 40mm XS, because it slips easily into my outer jacket pocket so I
can travel light.

Dan Matyola
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> Excellent!
>
>
> On 4/12/2015 9:46 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
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>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18003517&size=md
>> K-01, DA 1:2.8 40mm XS
>> Comments are invited.
>>
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Re: Anybody tethering a k-5ii? Plus, camera seizure bonus tale.

[Igor PDML-StR]

Christine,

As Steve wrote, all (most?) standard laptops and desktops would not have 
ability for video in, only video out.


There are small stand-alone LCD monitors (5"-10") that have HDMI inputs, 
and, I suspect might even work on batteries. I've seen those used 
for the video work with Canikon DSLRs.

As I pointed out in another thread, this Amazon store sells parts for
building rigs that would allow mounting such monitors to a camera:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/node/index.html?&merchant=A22PRX6WI8E2K6
I am sure there are others.


I also wanted to add a caution: I've never looked or tried, but before 
investing in any additional equipment, I'd check if the current Pentax 
DSLR firmware allows _LIVE_  displaying via HDMI.
I know that some cameras that have HDMI connectors only allow playing 
recorded videos via them, say on a TV, not live display while you are 
shooting.



Finally, 2.5 years ago, I was asking for possible tethering solutions 
here. I remember there were a few options I considered, but since the 
immediate need disappered before I tried any of them, I don't know what 
would work.
I don't remember all the details at the moment, but you can take a 
look at this thread:

 https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg638081.html

Hope this helps,

Igor



 steve harley Sun, 12 Apr 2015 20:25:56 -0700 wrote:

On 2015-04-12 20:32 , Stanley Halpin wrote:

You can buy a dongle that allows your video I/O port to attach to an HDMI
cable. I know it works for video out, I don't know if it will work for 
video in.



that won't work; Christine would need an HDMI video capture device; i 
don't know the market, but something like this:





but since she has a pre-Thunderbolt Mac, she also doesn't have USB 3 and i 
suspect USB 2 is not fast enough to keep up; maybe if you found a device 
that broadcast a stream onto wifi .




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Re: PESO 2015 - A Walk in Guadalupe River Park - GDG

[Igor PDML-StR]

Godfrey,

I enjoyed those images!
I didn't get to see the video, as I was on the phone, and that 250 MB 
would've been a large portion of the monthly plan allowance. And then I 
saw that it became unavailable.


I usually use Youtube for posting videos. It is also easy on people's 
traffic even for a high-res video, and one can look a low-res version if 
needed. Vimeo and Archive.org are the alternatives that are worth 
considering, depending on your needs and requirements.

But I am sure you know all this.
I was just surprised why you wouldn't have used any of those.

Igor



Godfrey DiGiorgi Mon, 13 Apr 2015 07:58:23 -0700 wrote:

I won't have time to work on delivering the video presentation for a 
while, so

I've posted an edited set of the Guadalupe River Park still photos to
Flickr.com:


  A Walk in Guadalupe River Park 2015 - https://flic.kr/s/aHska6FmnU (22 
photos)


Thanks for all the comments that you've sent me! :-)

G

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Re: PESO 2015 - A Walk in Guadalupe River Park - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Thanks for looking and commenting, Igor. 

While I have Vimeo, YouTube, and FB accounts, I so rarely use them I don't 
think of them. As more and more of my interests have to do with photo 
presentation and messaging, however, I suspect I'll become more active on one 
or the other of them. :-)

It's the story and how you tell it that captures audience, not how you made the 
photos...

G

> On Apr 13, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
> 
> Godfrey,
> 
> I enjoyed those images!
> I didn't get to see the video, as I was on the phone, and that 250 MB 
> would've been a large portion of the monthly plan allowance. And then I saw 
> that it became unavailable.
> 
> I usually use Youtube for posting videos. It is also easy on people's traffic 
> even for a high-res video, and one can look a low-res version if needed. 
> Vimeo and Archive.org are the alternatives that are worth considering, 
> depending on your needs and requirements.
> But I am sure you know all this.
> I was just surprised why you wouldn't have used any of those.
> 
> Igor

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Re: PESO: Bumps on a log

[Mark C]

Nice capture - I like the big turtle / little turtle thing there

On 4/12/2015 10:41 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Beautiful day but high water after Thursday's severe storms.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18003533

Comments and critiques?

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Re: Anybody tethering a k-5ii? Plus, camera seizure bonus tale.

[Christine Nielsen]

Thanks guys. 

I am currently leaning towards picking up a monitor that will do hdmi in...

FWIW, I have in the past been able to use the hdmi connection from camera to 
projector, enabling me to show students both live view and image review

-c


On Apr 13, 2015, at 12:55 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:


Christine,

As Steve wrote, all (most?) standard laptops and desktops would not have 
ability for video in, only video out.

There are small stand-alone LCD monitors (5"-10") that have HDMI inputs, and, I 
suspect might even work on batteries. I've seen those used for the video work 
with Canikon DSLRs.
As I pointed out in another thread, this Amazon store sells parts for
building rigs that would allow mounting such monitors to a camera:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/node/index.html?&merchant=A22PRX6WI8E2K6
I am sure there are others.


I also wanted to add a caution: I've never looked or tried, but before 
investing in any additional equipment, I'd check if the current Pentax DSLR 
firmware allows _LIVE_  displaying via HDMI.
I know that some cameras that have HDMI connectors only allow playing recorded 
videos via them, say on a TV, not live display while you are shooting.


Finally, 2.5 years ago, I was asking for possible tethering solutions here. I 
remember there were a few options I considered, but since the immediate need 
disappered before I tried any of them, I don't know what would work.
I don't remember all the details at the moment, but you can take a look at this 
thread:
https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg638081.html

Hope this helps,

Igor



steve harley Sun, 12 Apr 2015 20:25:56 -0700 wrote:

On 2015-04-12 20:32 , Stanley Halpin wrote:

   You can buy a dongle that allows your video I/O port to attach to an HDMI
   cable. I know it works for video out, I don't know if it will work for video 
in.


that won't work; Christine would need an HDMI video capture device; i don't 
know the market, but something like this:




but since she has a pre-Thunderbolt Mac, she also doesn't have USB 3 and i 
suspect USB 2 is not fast enough to keep up; maybe if you found a device that 
broadcast a stream onto wifi .



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RE: Question on literature

[Bob W]

And while we're on the subject of composition, some people might this quite
interesting:



B

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> You could try A Primer of Visual Literacy by the magnificently-named Donis
A
> Dondis.
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> B
> 
> 
> 
> > On 12 Apr 2015, at 14:07, Boris Liberman  wrote:
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> > Hi!
> >
> > I am giving a introductory fun lecture on composition. Can anyone
> recommend a classic textbook on this subject?
> >
> > I know some Russian books but this doesn't count :-).
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
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Re: PESO: Bumps on a log

[Rick Womer]

Those creatures look so remarkably content when they're in the sun…

Rick
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> Nice capture - I like the big turtle / little turtle thing there
>
> On 4/12/2015 10:41 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>>
>> Beautiful day but high water after Thursday's severe storms.
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18003533
>>
>> Comments and critiques?
>>
>> Regards,  Bob S.
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PESO - Jumping Spider

[Mark C]

Not for those who do no like spiders:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/jumping-spider

As indicated in the text of the blog post, I was a little frustrated by 
the mistakes I made in this shot - but then, it's a good step forward 
from my last try so I can't complain! Comment welcome.


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PESO - Two Hepatica

[Mark C]

The last two  hepatica from a week ago - time to find more.

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/two-more-hepatica

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Re: PESO - Jumping Spider

[Daniel J. Matyola]

He is quite an ugly little guy!

That being said, I like the amazing amount of detail that you captured
and displayed in this image.  It's too bad that the stick he is on is
so close to the color of the spider, but he still jumps out at the
viewer very effectively.  Impressive work!

Dan Matyola
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> Not for those who do no like spiders:
>
> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/jumping-spider
>
> As indicated in the text of the blog post, I was a little frustrated by the
> mistakes I made in this shot - but then, it's a good step forward from my
> last try so I can't complain! Comment welcome.
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Re: PESO - Two Hepatica

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Lovely colors, and I love the way the hairs stand out from the stem.  Very nice.

Dan Matyola
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> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/two-more-hepatica
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Strange color output behavior in LR - totally puzzled

[Igor PDML-StR]

I encounter some rather weird behavior in LR (5.7.1), and I am totally 
puzzled by it.

I have  a photograph that has primarily white and orange color in it.
In Print module, I added a text-based ID plate and a text-based watermark.
For both of those, I selected orange font colors that are visually very 
close to that of the photo.


1. If I "Print to:  File" (withing LR Print Module dialog), then all 
orange colors in the resulting JPEG appear to be similar to each other,
and if I import that JPEG back into LR and print to Epson R2880, all the 
colors are similar.


2. If I "Print to: Printer" right away, the text font color is _VERY_ 
different from the color of the photo itself.


JPEG and the initial file - appear to be in the same color (on the 
screen).
But if I print both to the same printer (and paper) with the same 
otherwise settings (besides the id plate and the watermark), -
The print colors (between the printed photos in #1 and in #2) are 
different.


I suspect that something might be off in the calibration conversion, 
as the JPEG is in RGB, while the DNG is in Adobe RGB (but even this is a 
big surprise). But what is completely puzzling is why and how the colors 
of the text and the photo are different when those are printed directly to 
the printer.
Also, I see this difference is present in the "Preview" that shows up when 
it is enabled in the printer (R2880) "set page" dialogue.


(I should point out that the colors in the preview have ALWAYS been 
royally messed up (on both Windows computers that I used with this 
printer, WinXP and Windows 7, and different versions of LR, from 1 or 2 
to 5 [Win7 only]), when printing from DNG files in Adobe RGB, but 
prints were coming out mostly fine.)


In all these cases, I have the configurations set to disable color 
management by the application and enable color control by the Printer 
driver Profile.


Any guess for this weirdness?
1. Why do text and photo of visibly similar colors come out differently 
in print?
2. Why do the prints from an AdobeRGB DNG and from an RGB JPEG have 
different colors?


Thank you,

Igor




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Re: PESO - Two Hepatica

[Mark C]

Thanks, Dan - they are  indeed hirsute (a word I learned here on the 
pdml last week.)

Mark

On 4/13/2015 11:25 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Lovely colors, and I love the way the hairs stand out from the stem.  Very nice.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 10:30 PM, Mark C  wrote:

The last two  hepatica from a week ago - time to find more.

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/two-more-hepatica

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Re: PESO - Jumping Spider

[Mark C]

Thanks - just added "find contrasting stick" to my list for when I try 
this again.


Mark

On 4/13/2015 11:24 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

He is quite an ugly little guy!

That being said, I like the amazing amount of detail that you captured
and displayed in this image.  It's too bad that the stick he is on is
so close to the color of the spider, but he still jumps out at the
viewer very effectively.  Impressive work!

Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 10:28 PM, Mark C  wrote:

Not for those who do no like spiders:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/jumping-spider

As indicated in the text of the blog post, I was a little frustrated by the
mistakes I made in this shot - but then, it's a good step forward from my
last try so I can't complain! Comment welcome.

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Re: April PUG - Panorama - Now Up

[Darren Addy]

It's a nice gallery with many wonderful images but, at the risk of
being pedantic, I must say that I feel that a large percentage of them
are not panoramas (if we are using the term in the traditional
photographic sense and not simply as a synomym of "a vista". A true
panorama results in a wide aspect ratio, but a wide aspect ratio does
not necessarily make a panorama. A panorama is created in one of two
ways:
1) by stitching together two or more exposures (ideally made by
pivoting around the lenses nodal point) that results a a Field of View
wider than would have been possible with a wide lens on the normal
film/sensor format.
2) by the use of a lens with the Field of View (and image circle) of a
larger format, used on a smaller format film/sensor. (As in a 5x7 film
capable 90mm lens being used in conjunction with a 120 film format in
the Fuji G617/GX617. Another example might be a strip of 35mm film
exposed in 6x7 camera with a 6x7 lens.

Shooting in true panorama fashion can be a real challenge, both in the
taking and the making of the image. Not so with merely cropping a
traditional image into a panorama-imitating aspect ratio. Perhaps I
was reading too much into the theme of "Panorama" and thus my
expectations are out of line. If so, I apologize. But I have a real
appreciation for real panoramas, and I was let down by a significant
percentage of the images in this gallery. That being said, I made no
submission myself, feeling that I had not made a true panorama in
quite a while.

All of that being said, my favorite images were Ken Waller's "Denali
Falls" (the only vertical image of the entire gallery and an image
that reminds me of one I took while hiking as a lad in Washington's
Olympia National Rainforest) and David Mann's "Wet Feet", which is
near perfection (and by "near" I mean "I wonder if the use of a
polarizing filter might have made it just a wee bit closer to
perfection"). Lovely images, everyone!

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Re: Strange color output behavior in LR - totally puzzled

[P.J. Alling]

Sounds like you have a gamut problem, one or both of the colors are out 
of gamut for your printer's inkset, and the direct print is at some 
point in the image processing train pushing them further apart.  
Converting the image to 8 bits first by saving as a jpeg is pushing them 
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On 4/13/2015 11:34 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



I encounter some rather weird behavior in LR (5.7.1), and I am totally 
puzzled by it.

I have  a photograph that has primarily white and orange color in it.
In Print module, I added a text-based ID plate and a text-based 
watermark.
For both of those, I selected orange font colors that are visually 
very close to that of the photo.


1. If I "Print to:  File" (withing LR Print Module dialog), then all 
orange colors in the resulting JPEG appear to be similar to each other,
and if I import that JPEG back into LR and print to Epson R2880, all 
the colors are similar.


2. If I "Print to: Printer" right away, the text font color is _VERY_ 
different from the color of the photo itself.


JPEG and the initial file - appear to be in the same color (on the 
screen).
But if I print both to the same printer (and paper) with the same 
otherwise settings (besides the id plate and the watermark), -
The print colors (between the printed photos in #1 and in #2) are 
different.


I suspect that something might be off in the calibration conversion, 
as the JPEG is in RGB, while the DNG is in Adobe RGB (but even this is 
a big surprise). But what is completely puzzling is why and how the 
colors of the text and the photo are different when those are printed 
directly to the printer.
Also, I see this difference is present in the "Preview" that shows up 
when it is enabled in the printer (R2880) "set page" dialogue.


(I should point out that the colors in the preview have ALWAYS been 
royally messed up (on both Windows computers that I used with this 
printer, WinXP and Windows 7, and different versions of LR, from 1 or 
2 to 5 [Win7 only]), when printing from DNG files in Adobe RGB, but 
prints were coming out mostly fine.)


In all these cases, I have the configurations set to disable color 
management by the application and enable color control by the Printer 
driver Profile.


Any guess for this weirdness?
1. Why do text and photo of visibly similar colors come out 
differently in print?
2. Why do the prints from an AdobeRGB DNG and from an RGB JPEG have 
different colors?


Thank you,

Igor







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PESO: Central Park

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Early Spring in Central Park:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18004244&size=lg
K-01, DA 1:2.8 40mm XS
Comments are invited.

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Re: Strange color output behavior in LR - totally puzzled

[Paul]

Why are you not using application color management instead of printer 
color management?  It seems that would produce more accurate color 
representation.  Also...what does the image look like if you enable soft 
proofing in LR?  Do you note the same problem?


Are you using Epson paper or some other brand?  Color accuracy should be 
better using software color management and the icc profile that matches 
the paper you're using.


-p

On 4/13/2015 10:34 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



I encounter some rather weird behavior in LR (5.7.1), and I am totally
puzzled by it.
I have  a photograph that has primarily white and orange color in it.
In Print module, I added a text-based ID plate and a text-based watermark.
For both of those, I selected orange font colors that are visually very
close to that of the photo.

1. If I "Print to:  File" (withing LR Print Module dialog), then all
orange colors in the resulting JPEG appear to be similar to each other,
and if I import that JPEG back into LR and print to Epson R2880, all the
colors are similar.

2. If I "Print to: Printer" right away, the text font color is _VERY_
different from the color of the photo itself.

JPEG and the initial file - appear to be in the same color (on the screen).
But if I print both to the same printer (and paper) with the same
otherwise settings (besides the id plate and the watermark), -
The print colors (between the printed photos in #1 and in #2) are
different.

I suspect that something might be off in the calibration conversion, as
the JPEG is in RGB, while the DNG is in Adobe RGB (but even this is a
big surprise). But what is completely puzzling is why and how the colors
of the text and the photo are different when those are printed directly
to the printer.
Also, I see this difference is present in the "Preview" that shows up
when it is enabled in the printer (R2880) "set page" dialogue.

(I should point out that the colors in the preview have ALWAYS been
royally messed up (on both Windows computers that I used with this
printer, WinXP and Windows 7, and different versions of LR, from 1 or 2
to 5 [Win7 only]), when printing from DNG files in Adobe RGB, but prints
were coming out mostly fine.)

In all these cases, I have the configurations set to disable color
management by the application and enable color control by the Printer
driver Profile.

Any guess for this weirdness?
1. Why do text and photo of visibly similar colors come out differently
in print?
2. Why do the prints from an AdobeRGB DNG and from an RGB JPEG have
different colors?

Thank you,

Igor






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Re: April PUG - Panorama - Now Up

[John]

You've apparently forgotten what the trailing 'p' in the PZ-1p stands for.

On 4/14/2015 12:01 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

It's a nice gallery with many wonderful images but, at the risk of
being pedantic, I must say that I feel that a large percentage of them
are not panoramas (if we are using the term in the traditional
photographic sense and not simply as a synomym of "a vista". A true
panorama results in a wide aspect ratio, but a wide aspect ratio does
not necessarily make a panorama. A panorama is created in one of two
ways:
1) by stitching together two or more exposures (ideally made by
pivoting around the lenses nodal point) that results a a Field of View
wider than would have been possible with a wide lens on the normal
film/sensor format.
2) by the use of a lens with the Field of View (and image circle) of a
larger format, used on a smaller format film/sensor. (As in a 5x7 film
capable 90mm lens being used in conjunction with a 120 film format in
the Fuji G617/GX617. Another example might be a strip of 35mm film
exposed in 6x7 camera with a 6x7 lens.

Shooting in true panorama fashion can be a real challenge, both in the
taking and the making of the image. Not so with merely cropping a
traditional image into a panorama-imitating aspect ratio. Perhaps I
was reading too much into the theme of "Panorama" and thus my
expectations are out of line. If so, I apologize. But I have a real
appreciation for real panoramas, and I was let down by a significant
percentage of the images in this gallery. That being said, I made no
submission myself, feeling that I had not made a true panorama in
quite a while.

All of that being said, my favorite images were Ken Waller's "Denali
Falls" (the only vertical image of the entire gallery and an image
that reminds me of one I took while hiking as a lad in Washington's
Olympia National Rainforest) and David Mann's "Wet Feet", which is
near perfection (and by "near" I mean "I wonder if the use of a
polarizing filter might have made it just a wee bit closer to
perfection"). Lovely images, everyone!



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