RE: OT: For Frank

[knarf]

My preference is a normal bicycle. But then I'm a cyclist.

These guys obviously want to appeal to non-cycists. They wanted it to look like 
a little car. If they really wanted aerodynamics they could have done it 
cheaper and more aerodynamically:

http://www.hpvelotechnik.com/produkte/streamer/

I agree with Malcolm, that thin fiberglass or composite shell will give a false 
sense of security. They even used the word "protection" in the video when 
referring to the shell. Protection from the elements perhaps, but not crash 
protection. 

The large-ish, bright shell will help with visibility in traffic (a huge 
problem with recumbents). But I'm not convinced that the weight penalty would 
be offset by aerodynamic gains.

One thing they didn't mention much in the first part of the video (before I got 
bored and turned it off) is the electric assist motor (hub assist motors are 
common in cargo bikes, BTW). I noticed a solar panel array on the roof; perhaps 
that's the reason for the large cab? I'm guessing the motor is powered by a 
combination of solar panel electricity and captured momentum energy while 
coasting or slowing down. That electric assist is probably a huge part of its 
higher top speed.

I think this is interesting but only really useful in warmer weather areas 
without a lot of rain (or snow!). I'm not sold on recumbents for a number of 
reasons I need not get into now.

I think I'd prefer a regular, upright, bicycle. But I'd like to give one of 
those things a spin, just for fun.

Cheers,

frank



On November 13, 2015 6:15:51 AM EST, Malcolm Smith  
wrote:
>Larry Colen wrote:
>
>> Bob W-PDML wrote:
>> > Can't see the point of pedalling all that unnecessary weight round.
>> Just ride a bike.
>> >
>> 
>> I suspect that on flat ground, the improved aerodynamics would make
>up
>> for the excess weight. Plus it might be more comfortable in the rain.
>> The problem isn't so much the extra forty pounds in weight, as much
>as
>> the extra four thousand pounds in cost.
>> 
>> I am a bit perturbed that they make it difficult to find out many
>> details of it, such as weight.
>
>These things give you a false sense of security, in something that
>offers no
>real protection at all and gives you loads of blind spots. It might be
>substantially heavier than a normal cycle, but it offers a lot of
>surface
>area to throw you sideways into traffic in a crosswind. Buy a normal
>cycle.
>
>Malcolm

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Re: OT: For Frank

[knarf]

They definitely need to address the (lack of) cargo areas. Even an outside rack 
on the back would be something. Baskets, panniers,  something is needed.

Cheers,

frank

On November 12, 2015 12:32:30 PM EST, John  wrote:
>A local startup in my old home town got some notice from the local PBS
>station. Someone sent me the link & I though Frank might find it
>interesting. And there are some other riders here
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3INj_7WVDQ8
>
>The drawbacks - which I expect they're looking at addressing - it's not
>weather sealed & we get a LOT of rainy weather here in the winters.
>
>Plus, there's not enough room for me to carry a guitar case in the
>back.
>And I couldn't stop anywhere along the way even if I could get the
>guitar in there, because there's no way to secure it.

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Re: PESO - Gales of November

[Paul Stenquist]

Superb!

Paul via phone

> On Nov 13, 2015, at 12:04 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> WOw - those are stunners, Mark!
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 11/12/2015 7:05 PM, Mark C wrote:
>> Or today's gale:
>> 
>> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/the-gales-of-november-high 
>> 
>> or on flickr:
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/22983427951
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/22983428351
>> 
>> K3 and Sigma EX 70-200 f2.8 (first version). Winds were gusting to 60mph so 
>> I shot hand held (the tripod would have just gotten blown around more). 
>> Comments welcome.
>> 
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Re: [OT] It's British and involves a cat, Star Trek and puns: It has "Cotty" written all over it.

[Steve Cottrell]

On 12/11/15, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-norfolk-34797513

Nowt to see 'ere.

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Re: OT: For Frank

[Steve Cottrell]

On 12/11/15, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Can't see the point of pedalling all that unnecessary weight round. Just
>ride a bike.

Bob likes to keep the air to his gills.

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Re: OT: For Frank

[Larry Colen]

Bob W-PDML wrote:

Can't see the point of pedalling all that unnecessary weight round. Just ride a 
bike.



I suspect that on flat ground, the improved aerodynamics would make up 
for the excess weight. Plus it might be more comfortable in the rain. 
The problem isn't so much the extra forty pounds in weight, as much as 
the extra four thousand pounds in cost.


I am a bit perturbed that they make it difficult to find out many 
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Re: [OT] It's British and involves a cat, Star Trek and puns: It has "Cotty" written all over it.

[Brian Walters]

On Fri, Nov 13, 2015, at 07:13 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
> On 12/11/15, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-norfolk-34797513
> 
> Nowt to see 'ere.
> 
> Best line: Staff at the centre floated a number of names but settled on
> Brian
> 


An excellent choice if I may say so...


Cheers

Brian

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Re: OT: For Frank

[Bob W-PDML]

This is the way to do it:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zp0f-COD4tc

B


> On 13 Nov 2015, at 11:47, knarf  wrote:
> 
> They definitely need to address the (lack of) cargo areas. Even an outside 
> rack on the back would be something. Baskets, panniers,  something is needed.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> frank
> 
>> On November 12, 2015 12:32:30 PM EST, John  wrote:
>> A local startup in my old home town got some notice from the local PBS
>> station. Someone sent me the link & I though Frank might find it
>> interesting. And there are some other riders here
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3INj_7WVDQ8
>> 
>> The drawbacks - which I expect they're looking at addressing - it's not
>> weather sealed & we get a LOT of rainy weather here in the winters.
>> 
>> Plus, there's not enough room for me to carry a guitar case in the
>> back.
>> And I couldn't stop anywhere along the way even if I could get the
>> guitar in there, because there's no way to secure it.
> 
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Re: PESO - Gales of November

[Mark C]

Thanks, Ken - I can't take credit for the timing as I just shot gunned 
it and shot several blasts in burst mode. Used TAV with a high shutter 
speed and fairly open aperture. Looking at the thumbnails there are lots 
of shots of the sky, the beach, half the light house as the wind jerked 
the camera around.


On 11/12/2015 11:30 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Nice captures both Mark! Nice to see you time it right to capture the red 
light. There was live video on Fox TV this morning showing the wave action at 
the Grand Haven lighthouse - reminded me of the ocean.


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From: Rick Womer 
Subject: Re: PESO - Gales of November

Excellent, Mark!  I particularly like the first one for the richer color of the 
lighthouse, the higher cloud of spray, and the waves washing over the pier.

Makes me want to reach for my GoreTex jacket!

Rick

On Nov 12, 2015, at 7:05 PM, Mark C wrote:


Or today's gale:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/the-gales-of-november-high

or on flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/22983427951

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/22983428351

K3 and Sigma EX 70-200 f2.8 (first version). Winds were gusting to 60mph so I 
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Re: PESO - Gales of November

[Mark C]

Thanks, Paul!

On 11/13/2015 6:57 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Superb!

Paul via phone


On Nov 13, 2015, at 12:04 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

WOw - those are stunners, Mark!

ann


On 11/12/2015 7:05 PM, Mark C wrote:
Or today's gale:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/the-gales-of-november-high

or on flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/22983427951

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/22983428351

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Re: Magnum - Square Print Sale!

[Daniel J. Matyola]

> 2015-11-13 5:34 GMT+02:00 knarf :
>> Scrolling down that page is the most inspiring couple of minutes I've spent 
>> in a long, long time.

They do carry a huge amount of compelling images, don't they!

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Re: PESO - Gales of November

[Mark C]

Thanks Ann, and also Frank, Rick and everyone else who took a look.

On 11/13/2015 12:04 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

WOw - those are stunners, Mark!

ann

On 11/12/2015 7:05 PM, Mark C wrote:

Or today's gale:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/the-gales-of-november-high 



or on flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/22983427951

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/22983428351

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Re: PESO - Gales of November

[Mark C]

Thanks, Alan. The wind gusts were pretty intense and I wound up in water 
up to my ankles when one of the larger waves managed to reach me - and I 
was quite far from the water.


On 11/12/2015 11:11 PM, Alan C wrote:
Amazing shots, Mark. Looks frightening. I have never experienced 
anything like that.


Alan C

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Or today's gale:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/the-gales-of-november-high 



or on flickr:

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Re: OT. newly found info

[David J Brooks]

On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Bill  wrote:
> On 11/13/2015 8:37 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Bill  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 11/12/2015 4:42 PM, David J Brooks wrote:


 It took some diving into googledom to find out that stuff. The manual
 is at best an Ikea reject.:-)

>>>
>>> Wait until you start dealing with the documentation they write for
>>> updates.
>>
>>
>> They have updates, oh no.
>>
>
> Not only do they have updates, but they use them to add features, not just
> fix stuff that crops up in user reports.
> Fuji is pretty good that way.

Good to know.

> But their documentation seems to presume that the user doesn't need the
> documentation.

I managed to figure out most of the camer my self, but some of the
hidden features i guess they can be called, needed the manual as well
as google

Dave
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Re: PESO - Gales of November

[Mark C]

Thanks, Darren! Couldn't avoid the Gordon Lightfoot reference since 
there was more than the usual buzz about the anniversary of the  Edmund 
Fitzgerald's sinking this year (40th anniversary). Coincidence that this 
year's first real gale is about the same time of year when the the ship 
sank.


On 11/12/2015 7:20 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

SUPER stuff, Mark!
Also loved the Gordon Lightfoot reference (even if it is his most
annoying song).

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Mark C  wrote:

Or today's gale:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/the-gales-of-november-high

or on flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/22983427951

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/22983428351

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Re: OT: For Frank

[knarf]

Quite ingenious! 

Safety regulations being what they are I can't imagine them flying today...

Cheers, 

frank 

On November 13, 2015 10:41:01 AM EST, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>This is the way to do it:
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zp0f-COD4tc
>
>B
>
>
>> On 13 Nov 2015, at 11:47, knarf  wrote:
>> 
>> They definitely need to address the (lack of) cargo areas. Even an
>outside rack on the back would be something. Baskets, panniers, 
>something is needed.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> frank
>> 
>>> On November 12, 2015 12:32:30 PM EST, John 
>wrote:
>>> A local startup in my old home town got some notice from the local
>PBS
>>> station. Someone sent me the link & I though Frank might find it
>>> interesting. And there are some other riders here
>>> 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3INj_7WVDQ8
>>> 
>>> The drawbacks - which I expect they're looking at addressing - it's
>not
>>> weather sealed & we get a LOT of rainy weather here in the winters.
>>> 
>>> Plus, there's not enough room for me to carry a guitar case in the
>>> back.
>>> And I couldn't stop anywhere along the way even if I could get the
>>> guitar in there, because there's no way to secure it.
>> 
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Re: PESO - Gales of November

[Larry Colen]

Not only are those excellent photos, but they do an amazing job of 
making me appreciate living in California.


Mark C wrote:

Or today's gale:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/the-gales-of-november-high

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/22983427951

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Re: OT: For Frank

[John]

On 11/13/2015 3:31 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



Bob W-PDML wrote:

Can't see the point of pedalling all that unnecessary weight round.
Just ride a bike.



I suspect that on flat ground, the improved aerodynamics would make up
for the excess weight. Plus it might be more comfortable in the rain.
The problem isn't so much the extra forty pounds in weight, as much as
the extra four thousand pounds in cost.

I am a bit perturbed that they make it difficult to find out many
details of it, such as weight.



It's on the web-page: http://organictransit.com/

For some reason, it's not in the FAQ, but if you scroll down on the main
page, it weighs 160lb, and the payload (including rider) is 350lb.

The ELF LIMO version has a 550lb payload.

Just a side note - the summer after my Freshman Year in College, I
worked for a landscape architect.

If you go to the 360 degree view of the ELF on the Organic Transit
website, I spent a substantial part of the summer of 1968 installing the
bricks for that plaza.

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Re: Lion Kill (Rick)

[P.J. Alling]

Nice?

On 11/13/2015 8:30 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

"Cougars" Bill? Nice one!

J

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 13, 2015, at 5:04 AM, Alan C  wrote:

Nor Cheetahs.

Alan C

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On 11/12/2015 10:33 PM, Alan C wrote:
On a lighter note, a
story about lion sightings in town was published in the local newspaper
to discourage ladies of the night from certain neighbourhoods.

I've been told that lions don't like Cougars in their territory.

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Re: PESO ~ Portrait of a self-portrait

[John]

On 11/12/2015 5:38 PM, Malcolm Smith wrote:

John wrote:





Most bang for the buck I've seen in a meter, plus it's water resistant.

https://www.keh.com/284901/light-meters-sekonic-l-408-multimaster-ambi-
flash


Thanks John. I don't intend to go nuts with equipment and I'll start off
small. I'd not seen 'Light Science & Magic' but the 5th edition is on its
way to me now. Nothing I have goes into any real detail, and I'd like to
read the book before buying anything else. Having said that I have seen the
Sekonic L 408 light meter. My light meter comes from another age, certainly
film days and I suspect a while before Pentax introduced the K lens mount! I
know for certain that needs to be updated.

Malcolm




I used the L-408 as an example because it's the one I'm most familiar
with. I'm sure there are other meters just as good.

The thing about using an incident meter is it lets me expose for the
light falling on the subject, which generally gives me an image with the
light parts light, the dark parts dark and the mid-tones properly
exposed, without having to figure out where the in-camera meter is
getting it's information from and having to compensate if it's getting
its reading from the wrong place.


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Re: Deleting folders from Lightroom navigator

[John]

I use Bridge instead of lightroom, but I have mine organized almost that
way. I let Bridge do the import & it automagically creates folders by
date and sorts the images into them. All I usually have to do is add a
descriptor to the folder name. "MMDD" becomes "MMDD-descriptor".

I don't have the "month" folders, because there have been times when I
didn't get to pick the camera up for a whole month and what use is there
having an empty "November" folder?

I have year folders and within that are dated folders annotated with a
job name or descriptor. I find that useful if I have more than one "job"
on a given day or when a "job" reoccurs over several days.

2015
- 20150101_New_Years_Day
- 20150102_Some_Job-Day1 (or location)
- 20150102_Some_Job-Day2
- 20150103-1_First_Job_of_the_Day
- 20150103-2_Second_Job_of_the_Day

...

Since I'm a Windoze user, the "MMDD-descriptor" format keeps the
folders in chronological order and I usually have a fairly good idea of
the time frame I would have taken certain photos and the descriptors
fill in the blanks. Fall Color isn't likely to be any earlier than
September, nor later than November in any given year.

And if they aren't where I think they should be, I could still do a
keyword search.


On 11/12/2015 7:26 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

For me, subject-based folder organization is a nuisance at best and a major 
pain at worst. I still have several handfuls of folders from my first Optio, 
with names like Fall Colors or Ste Marteen. Which would be fine if that fall of 
2003 was the only time I ever shot fall colors, or if the spring of 2004 was to 
be my only visit ever to Ste Marteen. But when I revisit those subjects, do I 
throw those new images in the folders with the old? To me that doesn’t feel 
right.

Since those very early days as I became overwhelmed with the proliferation of 
folders and sub folders, I have switched to a calendar based system. Every year has 
a folder with twelve subfolders. Period.  If all else fails, I can look at the 
September & October subfolder if I want to find color. The images themselves 
are named with a date prefix in a format that is compatible with my computer’s way 
of thinking about dates. So if I ever for some reason needed to look at my images 
when not in LR,I can just sort my image files by Date and they will be in 
chronological order.

When I import to LR, I always not sometimes not occasionally but always apply 
broad keywords to the entire set I am importing. Always including the general 
area/region and often the town name.Time permitting after importing, and it 
usually does, I will go back through and key word subgroups of images with a 
bit more precision. I.e., not just Venice, but also Duosodoro.

As I work on a set of images, from a trip or a time frame, I create a 
Collection or two to hold subsets of the images. Sometimes Smart Collections 
(e.g., all images shot between 9-18-2015 and 10-05-2015 with a rating of 2 
Stars or higher), sometimes subject based collections which I load by 
dragging-dropping selected images.

All of this isn’t that much work, even for legacy images freshly imported. With 
scanned images, I name them according to the date they were taken. Or my best 
guess to that date.

So I have LR in front of me. If I want fall colors, I look at my set of 
Collections. Nope, haven’t done that one yet. OK, I’ll do a keyword search. 
Maybe narrow it down by looking for fall colors shots near home and those in 
Michigan’s U.P. I see I am getting mostly October shots; I’ll check September 
and November for a few years, just do a quick scroll through to see if there 
are some groupings of fall colors I didn’t properly keyword because I was 
paying more attention to some detail rather  than to the overall context. If I 
see some, I quickly keyword them, redo the search. All of this is very quick 
and easy and requires only a) a general sense of what events occurred when on 
the calendar, and b) a good but not necessarily compulsive keywording process.

stan


On Nov 12, 2015, at 10:07 AM, Eric Weir  wrote:



On Nov 11, 2015, at 2:57 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

On 11 Nov 2015, at 12:50, Malcolm Smith  wrote:


Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


Sorry if this doesn't answer your questions directly. Unraveling a
slightly mucked up Lightroom catalog database takes time and
persistence. You need to look at a lot of things, one at a time, to
determine what the state of a particular catalog is and what files it
is looking at. Always look from catalog to file system, and then the
other way, to determine issues that need to be fixed.


It's so important to get Lightroom to set the catalogue database right from the 
start. I thought I understood that, and I also thought that at least the images 
I had from DSLRs were in a logical order.

[...]

For someone organised, starting with Lightroom should be a big help, but if you 
don't know what it is 

Re: PESO - Gales of November

[Jack Davis]

Awesome, Mark! Truly magnificent images, beautifully rendered!

J
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Subject: PESO - Gales of November

Or today's gale:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/the-gales-of-november-high

or on flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/22983427951

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/22983428351

K3 and Sigma EX 70-200 f2.8 (first version). Winds were gusting to 60mph 
so I shot hand held (the tripod would have just gotten blown around 
more). Comments welcome.

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Re: Lenses...

[P.J. Alling]

I lived with a 28, 50 and 150 for a long time, using 35mm film, and the 
20-35mm covers two of those and everything in between, on APS-C 
digital.  It also produces lovely images so for me it's close to 
perfect, though I do miss having an ultra wide option.


On 11/12/2015 6:49 PM, Mark C wrote:
I still have my 20-35 f4 and am waiting to see how it does on the FF 
digital. It is a great lens on film and lives in my film bag, where ti 
gets regular use. I never warmed to the focal range on the APS-C DSLR's.


Mark

On 11/11/2015 11:54 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
Every time I look at a photo I've taken with the FA 20-35mm f4.0, 
whether on film or digital, I can't help to thing why couldn't it be 
a limited sheathed in machined aluminum rather than plastic...





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PESO - A Paling Rose...

[Bulent Celasun]

A simple fall scene, in fall colors...

https://celasun.wordpress.com/2015/11/14/solgun-bir-gul-a-paling-rose/

Pentax K3, Sigma 70mm f/2.8, EX Macro.


Accompanied by two lines from a poem.

The English translation of the whole poem can be read below :
http://www.theauroraaustralis.net/solgun-bir-gul-dokununca-a-paling-rose-when-touched-behcet-necatigil/


Bulent

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PESO: The Oarsman

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Another from the Dartmouth Rowing event last weekend:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18126968=lg
K-5 II S. DA 18-135 zoom
Comments invited

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Re: OT: For Frank

[steve harley]

On 2015-11-12 16:03 , Bob W-PDML wrote:

Can't see the point of pedalling all that unnecessary weight round. Just ride a 
bike.


it's cute but it looks pretty niche — electric bikes are becoming much more 
popular, and this is perhaps one branch of that movement; however it 
provides only the illusion of safety while reducing maneuverability; and it 
looks too wide to fit in a bikeway, so it will often be out in car traffic 
drawing the ire of drivers



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Re: PESO - Gales of November

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Powerful winds, powerful images.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 7:05 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> Or today's gale:
>
> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/the-gales-of-november-high
>
> or on flickr:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/22983427951
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/22983428351
>
> K3 and Sigma EX 70-200 f2.8 (first version). Winds were gusting to 60mph so
> I shot hand held (the tripod would have just gotten blown around more).
> Comments welcome.
>
> Mark
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Re: OT: For Frank

[Mark Roberts]

Bob W-PDML wrote:

>This is the way to do it:
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zp0f-COD4tc

Perhaps it's just me but the background music really makes that video
as far as I'm concerned...
 
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Re: OT: For Frank

[Daniel J. Matyola]

> On November 13, 2015 10:41:01 AM EST, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>>This is the way to do it:
>>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zp0f-COD4tc

That is hilarious!!!

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RE: PESO ~ Portrait of a self-portrait

[Malcolm Smith]

John wrote:

> I used the L-408 as an example because it's the one I'm most familiar
> with. I'm sure there are other meters just as good.
> 
> The thing about using an incident meter is it lets me expose for the
> light falling on the subject, which generally gives me an image with
> the light parts light, the dark parts dark and the mid-tones properly
> exposed, without having to figure out where the in-camera meter is
> getting it's information from and having to compensate if it's getting
> its reading from the wrong place.

No doubt there are other meters which are as good but the L 408 caught my
eye as well. The water resistant bit added to the appeal! For all the
reasons you mention and more, I need to replace my meter, which I doubt
doesn't even get close to the accuracy of the K3's own metering. I'd like a
reliable, modern and accurate method of working out exposure off camera. 

Malcolm


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Re: PESO: Cool Cox

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Rick.


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On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> I like that shot, Dan. The headband, sunglasses, microphone, and
> facial expression (or lack of one) work together well.
>
> A good friend of ours was a coxswain at Virginia 40 years ago. Her
> qualifications were a strong voice and compact size (62in/ 157cm and
> 90lb/41kg).
>
> Rick
> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 6:15 AM, knarf  wrote:
>> I think basketball has changed in the past 80 years as well...
>>
>> LOL!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> frank
>>
>> On November 11, 2015 12:28:46 AM EST, "Daniel J. Matyola" 
>>  wrote:
>>>“Physiologists, in fact, have calculated that rowing a
>>>two-thousand-meter race—the Olympic standard—takes the same
>>>physiological toll as playing two basketball games back-to-back. And
>>>it exacts that toll in about six minutes.”
>>>
>>>― Daniel James Brown, The Boys in the Boat: Nine Americans and Their
>>>Epic Quest for Gold at the 1936 Berlin Olympics
>>>Dan Matyola
>>>http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>>
>>>
>>>On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 10:29 PM, knarf 
>>>wrote:
 He is cool. So is the shot.

 Rowing has clearly changed with the times.

 :-)

 Cheers,

 frank

 On November 10, 2015 12:28:26 AM EST, "Daniel J. Matyola"
>>> wrote:
>A Coxswain at the Gardner Cup Regatta at Dartmouth College:
>
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18125332=lg
>K-5 II S, DA 18-135 zoom
>
>Comments are invited.
>
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Re: OT: For Frank

[John]

I just figured you and some others here might find it interesting.

It has a dual chain drive setup & I think they said the drive wheel is
free-wheeling. One chain is driven by pedal power and the other is
driven by an electric motor mounted on the frame under the seat. I don't
think they have any kind of regenerative braking, but they may be
working on that for the future.

The FAQ says the solar panel will recharge the standard battery from 0
to 100% in approximately 8 hours, but it also includes a plug in charger
that will do the job in about 2.5 hours.

They offer 26" studded tires as an accessory for anyone who wants to
ride this thing in ice & snow. But I didn't see any kind of doors or
side protection from the weather offered among the accessories.

Company website: http://organictransit.com/

On 11/13/2015 6:43 AM, knarf wrote:

My preference is a normal bicycle. But then I'm a cyclist.

These guys obviously want to appeal to non-cycists. They wanted it to
look like a little car. If they really wanted aerodynamics they could
have done it cheaper and more aerodynamically:

http://www.hpvelotechnik.com/produkte/streamer/

I agree with Malcolm, that thin fiberglass or composite shell will
give a false sense of security. They even used the word "protection"
in the video when referring to the shell. Protection from the
elements perhaps, but not crash protection.

The large-ish, bright shell will help with visibility in traffic (a
huge problem with recumbents). But I'm not convinced that the weight
penalty would be offset by aerodynamic gains.

One thing they didn't mention much in the first part of the video
(before I got bored and turned it off) is the electric assist motor
(hub assist motors are common in cargo bikes, BTW). I noticed a solar
panel array on the roof; perhaps that's the reason for the large cab?
I'm guessing the motor is powered by a combination of solar panel
electricity and captured momentum energy while coasting or slowing
down. That electric assist is probably a huge part of its higher top
speed.

I think this is interesting but only really useful in warmer weather
areas without a lot of rain (or snow!). I'm not sold on recumbents
for a number of reasons I need not get into now.

I think I'd prefer a regular, upright, bicycle. But I'd like to give
one of those things a spin, just for fun.

Cheers,

frank



On November 13, 2015 6:15:51 AM EST, Malcolm Smith
 wrote:

Larry Colen wrote:


Bob W-PDML wrote:

Can't see the point of pedalling all that unnecessary weight
round.

Just ride a bike.




I suspect that on flat ground, the improved aerodynamics would
make

up

for the excess weight. Plus it might be more comfortable in the
rain. The problem isn't so much the extra forty pounds in weight,
as much

as

the extra four thousand pounds in cost.

I am a bit perturbed that they make it difficult to find out
many details of it, such as weight.


These things give you a false sense of security, in something that
offers no real protection at all and gives you loads of blind
spots. It might be substantially heavier than a normal cycle, but
it offers a lot of surface area to throw you sideways into traffic
in a crosswind. Buy a normal cycle.

Malcolm




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Re: OT: For Frank

[knarf]

It's interesting, for sure. Just because I might not choose one doesn't mean I 
don't find it worthwhile. 

I hope they do well with it. Getting people out of their cars is a pretty tough 
sell. 

You've spawned an interesting discussion. Thanks.

Cheers,

frank

On November 13, 2015 5:34:39 PM EST, John  wrote:
>I just figured you and some others here might find it interesting.
>
>It has a dual chain drive setup & I think they said the drive wheel is
>free-wheeling. One chain is driven by pedal power and the other is
>driven by an electric motor mounted on the frame under the seat. I
>don't
>think they have any kind of regenerative braking, but they may be
>working on that for the future.
>
>The FAQ says the solar panel will recharge the standard battery from 0
>to 100% in approximately 8 hours, but it also includes a plug in
>charger
>that will do the job in about 2.5 hours.
>
>They offer 26" studded tires as an accessory for anyone who wants to
>ride this thing in ice & snow. But I didn't see any kind of doors or
>side protection from the weather offered among the accessories.
>
>Company website: http://organictransit.com/
>
>On 11/13/2015 6:43 AM, knarf wrote:
>> My preference is a normal bicycle. But then I'm a cyclist.
>>
>> These guys obviously want to appeal to non-cycists. They wanted it to
>> look like a little car. If they really wanted aerodynamics they could
>> have done it cheaper and more aerodynamically:
>>
>> http://www.hpvelotechnik.com/produkte/streamer/
>>
>> I agree with Malcolm, that thin fiberglass or composite shell will
>> give a false sense of security. They even used the word "protection"
>> in the video when referring to the shell. Protection from the
>> elements perhaps, but not crash protection.
>>
>> The large-ish, bright shell will help with visibility in traffic (a
>> huge problem with recumbents). But I'm not convinced that the weight
>> penalty would be offset by aerodynamic gains.
>>
>> One thing they didn't mention much in the first part of the video
>> (before I got bored and turned it off) is the electric assist motor
>> (hub assist motors are common in cargo bikes, BTW). I noticed a solar
>> panel array on the roof; perhaps that's the reason for the large cab?
>> I'm guessing the motor is powered by a combination of solar panel
>> electricity and captured momentum energy while coasting or slowing
>> down. That electric assist is probably a huge part of its higher top
>> speed.
>>
>> I think this is interesting but only really useful in warmer weather
>> areas without a lot of rain (or snow!). I'm not sold on recumbents
>> for a number of reasons I need not get into now.
>>
>> I think I'd prefer a regular, upright, bicycle. But I'd like to give
>> one of those things a spin, just for fun.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> frank
>>
>>
>>
>> On November 13, 2015 6:15:51 AM EST, Malcolm Smith
>>  wrote:
>>> Larry Colen wrote:
>>>
 Bob W-PDML wrote:
> Can't see the point of pedalling all that unnecessary weight
> round.
 Just ride a bike.
>

 I suspect that on flat ground, the improved aerodynamics would
 make
>>> up
 for the excess weight. Plus it might be more comfortable in the
 rain. The problem isn't so much the extra forty pounds in weight,
 as much
>>> as
 the extra four thousand pounds in cost.

 I am a bit perturbed that they make it difficult to find out
 many details of it, such as weight.
>>>
>>> These things give you a false sense of security, in something that
>>> offers no real protection at all and gives you loads of blind
>>> spots. It might be substantially heavier than a normal cycle, but
>>> it offers a lot of surface area to throw you sideways into traffic
>>> in a crosswind. Buy a normal cycle.
>>>
>>> Malcolm
>>

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Re: Lion Kill (Rick)

[Alan C]

Lions manely do it for pride.

Alan C

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Nice?

On 11/13/2015 8:30 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

"Cougars" Bill? Nice one!

J

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On Nov 13, 2015, at 5:04 AM, Alan C  wrote:

Nor Cheetahs.

Alan C

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On 11/12/2015 10:33 PM, Alan C wrote:
On a lighter note, a
story about lion sightings in town was published in the local newspaper
to discourage ladies of the night from certain neighbourhoods.

I've been told that lions don't like Cougars in their territory.

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Re: PESO - A Paling Rose...

[ann sanfedele]

I like the concept, the colors and placement of the rose ... but for my 
eyes either the background has to be blurred out more or the entire 
scene has to be razor sharp..integrating the form of the plantwith the 
fallen leaves



ann

On 11/13/2015 4:04 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote:

A simple fall scene, in fall colors...

https://celasun.wordpress.com/2015/11/14/solgun-bir-gul-a-paling-rose/

Pentax K3, Sigma 70mm f/2.8, EX Macro.


Accompanied by two lines from a poem.

The English translation of the whole poem can be read below :
http://www.theauroraaustralis.net/solgun-bir-gul-dokununca-a-paling-rose-when-touched-behcet-necatigil/


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Re: OT: For Frank

[knarf]

It absolutely would not be permitted in bike lanes around here - no motorized 
vehicles allowed.

Cheers,

frank 

On November 13, 2015 4:20:33 PM EST, steve harley  wrote:
>On 2015-11-12 16:03 , Bob W-PDML wrote:
>> Can't see the point of pedalling all that unnecessary weight round.
>Just ride a bike.
>
>it's cute but it looks pretty niche — electric bikes are becoming much
>more 
>popular, and this is perhaps one branch of that movement; however it 
>provides only the illusion of safety while reducing maneuverability;
>and it 
>looks too wide to fit in a bikeway, so it will often be out in car
>traffic 
>drawing the ire of drivers
>
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Re: OT: For Frank

[steve harley]

On 2015-11-13 21:58 , knarf wrote:

It absolutely would not be permitted in bike lanes around here - no motorized 
vehicles allowed.


here in Denver, electrically assisted bikes (limited to 20mph max) are 
considered the same as bikes in most rules



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Re: OT: For Frank

[Bob W-PDML]

> On 13 Nov 2015, at 23:13, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> Bob W-PDML wrote:
> 
>> This is the way to do it:
>> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zp0f-COD4tc
> 
> Perhaps it's just me but the background music really makes that video
> as far as I'm concerned...

I like the ordinariness of having a bike. Look at the cycle-parking and the 
absence of locks. There are already quite a few cars around, but it's the 
period just before mass car ownership and the wholesale surrender here of towns 
and cities to the car during the 1960s.

The second paragraph of the introduction to this report, and graph on p.4 are 
quite interesting:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/future-of-cities-beyond-peak-car

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Re: PESO - A Paling Rose...

[Bulent Celasun]

Thank you Ann.

I have blurred the background a bit during post processing.
(They were intentionally blurred during the shoot).
I will try more.

The other option requires a re-shoot which is impossible :(

I will let you know.


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2015-11-14 6:07 GMT+02:00 ann sanfedele :
> I like the concept, the colors and placement of the rose ... but for my eyes
> either the background has to be blurred out more or the entire scene has to
> be razor sharp..integrating the form of the plantwith the fallen leaves
>
>
> ann
>
>
> On 11/13/2015 4:04 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote:
>>
>> A simple fall scene, in fall colors...
>>
>> https://celasun.wordpress.com/2015/11/14/solgun-bir-gul-a-paling-rose/
>>
>> Pentax K3, Sigma 70mm f/2.8, EX Macro.
>>
>>
>> Accompanied by two lines from a poem.
>>
>> The English translation of the whole poem can be read below :
>>
>> http://www.theauroraaustralis.net/solgun-bir-gul-dokununca-a-paling-rose-when-touched-behcet-necatigil/
>>
>>
>> Bulent
>>
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>> http://celasun.wordpress.com/
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/
>> http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun
>>
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Re: Magnum - Square Print Sale!

[Bulent Celasun]

Frank,

>Scrolling down that page is the most inspiring couple of minutes I've spent in 
>a long, long time.

That was surely like a treat!

I've even sent their links to some friends.


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2015-11-13 5:34 GMT+02:00 knarf :
> Scrolling down that page is the most inspiring couple of minutes I've spent 
> in a long, long time.
>
> Thanks for sharing.
>
> Cheers,
>
> frank
>
> On November 11, 2015 11:46:40 PM EST, Godfrey DiGiorgi 
>  wrote:
>>If anyone is interested, Magnum is doing another limited time Square
>>Print Sale. I bought a few the last round and they're terrific. Check
>>them out on the website:
>>
>>  http://store.magnumphotos.com/collections/square-prints-sale/
>>
>>The sale runs until this Friday, November 13. Prints are $100 each.
>>There's a selection of about 60 or so to choose from.
>>
>>enjoy,
>>Godfrey
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RE: OT: For Frank

[Malcolm Smith]

Larry Colen wrote:

> Bob W-PDML wrote:
> > Can't see the point of pedalling all that unnecessary weight round.
> Just ride a bike.
> >
> 
> I suspect that on flat ground, the improved aerodynamics would make up
> for the excess weight. Plus it might be more comfortable in the rain.
> The problem isn't so much the extra forty pounds in weight, as much as
> the extra four thousand pounds in cost.
> 
> I am a bit perturbed that they make it difficult to find out many
> details of it, such as weight.

These things give you a false sense of security, in something that offers no
real protection at all and gives you loads of blind spots. It might be
substantially heavier than a normal cycle, but it offers a lot of surface
area to throw you sideways into traffic in a crosswind. Buy a normal cycle.

Malcolm


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Re: OT. newly found info

[David J Brooks]

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Bill  wrote:
> On 11/12/2015 4:42 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
>>
>> It took some diving into googledom to find out that stuff. The manual
>> is at best an Ikea reject.:-)
>>
>
> Wait until you start dealing with the documentation they write for updates.

They have updates, oh no.

Dave
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Re: OT. newly found info

[Bill]

On 11/13/2015 8:37 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Bill  wrote:

On 11/12/2015 4:42 PM, David J Brooks wrote:


It took some diving into googledom to find out that stuff. The manual
is at best an Ikea reject.:-)



Wait until you start dealing with the documentation they write for updates.


They have updates, oh no.



Not only do they have updates, but they use them to add features, not 
just fix stuff that crops up in user reports.

Fuji is pretty good that way.
But their documentation seems to presume that the user doesn't need the 
documentation.


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Re: Lion Kill (Rick)

[Jack Davis]

"Cougars" Bill? Nice one!

J

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> On Nov 13, 2015, at 5:04 AM, Alan C  wrote:
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> Nor Cheetahs.
> 
> Alan C
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> -Original Message- From: Bill
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>> On 11/12/2015 10:33 PM, Alan C wrote:
>> On a lighter note, a
>> story about lion sightings in town was published in the local newspaper
>> to discourage ladies of the night from certain neighbourhoods.
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> I've been told that lions don't like Cougars in their territory.
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Re: Lion Kill (Rick)

[Alan C]

Nor Cheetahs.

Alan C

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On 11/12/2015 10:33 PM, Alan C wrote:

 On a lighter note, a
story about lion sightings in town was published in the local newspaper
to discourage ladies of the night from certain neighbourhoods.


I've been told that lions don't like Cougars in their territory.

bill


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