Re: That's the PUG done for 2015 - December PUG is up
Many of those lawnmowers don't look too bad - actually better than my Honda HR194 which is still running after 30 years. Has only had a ring job, a couple of starter ropes & many blade replacements. Alan C -Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 7:07 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: That's the PUG done for 2015 - December PUG is up An extremely interesting and varied gallery. I had a great time viewing all the interpretations of the theme. My favorite is "Where Lawnmowers Go to Die" by Brian Walters. What a find! not exactly :pretty," but compelling. It appears that we have a lot of wood workers in the PDML. It also appears that Ann stayed in the kitchen, where all good women belong, of course. Bruce's pipe cutter wins the prize for the shapeliest tool. Thanks to all who contributed, and especially to our devoted PUG-meister, Brian. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:29 PM, Brian Walters wrote: G'day all. Some very nice traditional tools in this collection - Collin's is superb and the monochrome efforts by Darren, Don & Frank are especially appealing. Rick's 'Harpsicord Building' is a well captured moment. Also some quite unusual interpretations of the theme. The stand-out for me is Bruce's 'Nude with Pipe Wrench and Bolt Cutter' - the title alone is worth the price of admission. An excellent way to wrap up 2015. As usual you'll find the gallery here: http://pug.komkon.org/ (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there). Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery, let me know. + And so to 2016. January's theme: "Reflection". Full Submissions Guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html You can submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/ Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.com - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Kia Orana
I assumed you had a not-too-small f.-number... Cheers! Igor David Mann Thu, 03 Dec 2015 20:47:24 -0800 wrote: You don't know the size of my aperture! Cheers, Dave On Dec 4, 2015, at 3:40 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Dave, That's exactly what photographers do: When the sun is bright, in the absence of a Neutral Density filter, you set a short shutter speed. :-D Igor David Mann Wed, 02 Dec 2015 20:27:06 -0800 wrote: Thanks, Igor. I had better mention that I did lie in the hammock for a few minutes but I wasn't wearing sunscreen at the time so I had to limit my exposure. I planned to go back but never quite got around to it. Cheers, Dave On Wed, 2 Dec 2015, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Dave: What an idyllic scene! .. ideally pictured. I am speachless and envy. Igor On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:17 PM, David Mann wrote: Yesterday we arrived back from an enjoyable week on Rarotonga which is the largest of the Cook Islands. Here's a photo to make you feel miserable :) http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/939/#peso Hope I didn't miss too much, I have 501 messages... Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: That's the PUG done for 2015 - December PUG is up
An extremely interesting and varied gallery. I had a great time viewing all the interpretations of the theme. My favorite is "Where Lawnmowers Go to Die" by Brian Walters. What a find! not exactly :pretty," but compelling. It appears that we have a lot of wood workers in the PDML. It also appears that Ann stayed in the kitchen, where all good women belong, of course. Bruce's pipe cutter wins the prize for the shapeliest tool. Thanks to all who contributed, and especially to our devoted PUG-meister, Brian. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:29 PM, Brian Walters wrote: > G'day all. > > Some very nice traditional tools in this collection - Collin's is superb > and the monochrome efforts by Darren, Don & Frank are especially > appealing. Rick's 'Harpsicord Building' is a well captured moment. > > Also some quite unusual interpretations of the theme. > > The stand-out for me is Bruce's 'Nude with Pipe Wrench and Bolt Cutter' > - the title alone is worth the price of admission. > > An excellent way to wrap up 2015. > > As usual you'll find the gallery here: > > http://pug.komkon.org/ > > (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery > there). > > Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not > infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the > gallery, let me know. > > + > > And so to 2016. January's theme: "Reflection". > > Full Submissions Guidelines here: > > http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html > > You can submit here: > > http://pug.komkon.org/submit/ > > > Cheers > > Brian > > ++ > Brian Walters > Western Sydney Australia > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > > -- > -- > > -- > http://www.fastmail.com - Or how I learned to stop worrying and > love email again > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO sans leica
On 12/3/2015 10:05 PM, steve harley wrote: On 2015-12-03 16:52 , John wrote: All it gives me are results for Leica cameras. click "Images" — lots of pails and a few cameras Ok -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Kia Orana
I probably should have mentioned that "kia orana" is a greeting in Cook Islands Maori. Their language is closely related to NZ Maori, who say "kia ora". There is history of settlers from the Cook Islands colonising NZ so the lingual similarities are not surprising. Cook Islanders are brought up as bilingual (alongside English) which keeps their language alive. We could do better here... when I was in primary school we learned only a little Maori. I can almost count to 10... Having said that there is actually a Maori-language immersion primary school a couple of km from my house. Cheers Dave > On Dec 3, 2015, at 6:23 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: > > No envy or miserableness here... I should say that I thought that this was > going to be a photograph of a motor vehicle produced by certain Korean > automaker... > > Excellent spot for relaxation, Dave. > > On 12/2/2015 6:17, David Mann wrote: >> Yesterday we arrived back from an enjoyable week on Rarotonga which is the >> largest of the Cook Islands. >> >> Here's a photo to make you feel miserable :) >> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/939/#peso >> >> Hope I didn't miss too much, I have 501 messages... >> >> Cheers, >> Dave >> >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Small Wasp
Great work, as usual, Mark! I do not find these insect particularly ugly or threatening. In many (most?) cases those impressions both concepts are experience-based. Naturally, a human brain tends to like what we are used to, and dislike (or even get threatened by) what is very disparate from ourselves: we fear unknown. I think it is very similar to the roots of xenophobia (and a few other phobias). I also think a similar mechanism is responsible (at least in part) for face recognition problems across races. Mark, I see why you said this insect looks like a puppy. It does a little bit. By the way, this is actually a great example of that we tend to relate new objects to something that we are familiar with. Very similarly, we find human-like features in cars (headlights -> eyes, grill -> face), and classify some grill features as friendly or aggressive. Igor PS. I find it interesting that a few months ago I was shooting a wasp, thinking it was an ant queen. :-) You might remember it: http://42graphy.org/misc/_IR27045.jpg On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Mark C wrote: Since posting this I've learned that it is actually an ant queen, and not a wasp, not that it makes much difference to the viewer. As nasty as ti looks, the whole frame is covering less than 3mm of space, so the ant is very tiny indeed. On 12/3/2015 12:19 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Certainly a creature one wouldn't want to meet in a dark alley :-). On 12/3/2015 1:48, Mark C wrote: Looks a little like a puppy to me: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/small-wasp-1 or on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/23370180022/ 8x lifesized. Pentax K01 and K 24 f3.5, lots of extension and flash. Comments welcome! Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO sans leica
Exactly right. On 12/4/2015 6:29, Larry Colen wrote: Boris Liberman wrote: One extra point, Larry. In Russian "ei" in Leica is pronounced as "a" in "cake". The other funny word related to "Leica". With "ei" pronounced as "i" in "bike", it turns into Husky - the dog. Would that be like Laika, the space dog? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO sans leica
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:52 PM, John wrote: > Besides I thought Leica in Russian was the little dog they sent up in > the satellite? Yes, indeed. Laika was the first cosmonaut: http://time.com/3546215/laika-1957/ They are separate words in Russian: leika = watering can laika = kid skin leica = expensive capitalistic bling Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Kia Orana
You don't know the size of my aperture! Cheers, Dave On Dec 4, 2015, at 3:40 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > Dave, > > That's exactly what photographers do: When the sun is bright, in the absence > of a Neutral Density filter, you set a short shutter speed. > > :-D > > Igor > > > David Mann Wed, 02 Dec 2015 20:27:06 -0800 wrote: > > Thanks, Igor. I had better mention that I did lie in the hammock for a few > minutes but I wasn't wearing sunscreen at the time so I had to limit my > exposure. I planned to go back but never quite got around to it. > > > Cheers, > Dave > > > On Wed, 2 Dec 2015, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > >> >> >> Dave: >> >> What an idyllic scene! >> .. ideally pictured. >> >> I am speachless and envy. >> >> Igor >> >> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:17 PM, David Mann wrote: >> >>> Yesterday we arrived back from an enjoyable week on Rarotonga which is the >>> largest of the Cook Islands. >>> Here's a photo to make you feel miserable :) >>> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/939/#peso >>> Hope I didn't miss too much, I have 501 messages... >>> Cheers, >>> Dave >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO sans leica
Boris Liberman wrote: One extra point, Larry. In Russian "ei" in Leica is pronounced as "a" in "cake". The other funny word related to "Leica". With "ei" pronounced as "i" in "bike", it turns into Husky - the dog. Would that be like Laika, the space dog? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO sans leica
One extra point, Larry. In Russian "ei" in Leica is pronounced as "a" in "cake". The other funny word related to "Leica". With "ei" pronounced as "i" in "bike", it turns into Husky - the dog. Boris On 12/3/2015 9:40, Larry Colen wrote: Boris Liberman wrote: You know, Leica in Russian also means this device for watering plants: just copy this: "лейка" to google and look at the pictures - you'll see exactly what I mean. In a weird sense, your title reflects exactly that - plants and no leica to water them :-). Very cool. I definitely need to buy a watering can and paint a red dot on it. I actually shot it in the riverbed in my back yard, so that is not a place where I'm likely to need a Russian leica. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO sans leica
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Re: PESO: Kia Orana
Dave, That's exactly what photographers do: When the sun is bright, in the absence of a Neutral Density filter, you set a short shutter speed. :-D Igor David Mann Wed, 02 Dec 2015 20:27:06 -0800 wrote: Thanks, Igor. I had better mention that I did lie in the hammock for a few minutes but I wasn't wearing sunscreen at the time so I had to limit my exposure. I planned to go back but never quite got around to it. Cheers, Dave On Wed, 2 Dec 2015, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Dave: What an idyllic scene! .. ideally pictured. I am speachless and envy. Igor On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:17 PM, David Mann wrote: Yesterday we arrived back from an enjoyable week on Rarotonga which is the largest of the Cook Islands. Here's a photo to make you feel miserable :) http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/939/#peso Hope I didn't miss too much, I have 501 messages... Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
December PUG - oops!
G'day all If you tried to view the December PUG and kept seeing the November gallery - that's because I forgot to change the softlink. Fortunately Igor noticed and fixed the problem, so it works properly now. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.com - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO sans leica
John wrote: All it gives me are results for Leica cameras. Interesting, I get a bunch of watering pails: https://www.google.com/search?q=%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B9%D0%BA%D0%B0&num=30&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwidjJjv88DJAhVE_mMKHXUkCkYQsAQILg&biw=1247&bih=1295 Besides I thought Leica in Russian was the little dog they sent up in the satellite? On 12/3/2015 12:27 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: You know, Leica in Russian also means this device for watering plants: just copy this: "лейка" to google and look at the pictures - you'll see exactly what I mean. In a weird sense, your title reflects exactly that - plants and no leica to water them :-). On 12/1/2015 8:56, Larry Colen wrote: I played with my camera in my back yard for a few minutes this afternoon: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/23144266800/in/album-72157661743849741/ I didn't get much else worth showing in my back yard, but I went for a short walk in upper Wilder Ranch (off Empire grade) and got a few decent ones which fill out the set it's in. It was interesting comparing the results of HDR versus just a single frame when I was processing them. I also have a couple of panoramas of a meadow: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157661743849741/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO sans leica
All it gives me are results for Leica cameras. Besides I thought Leica in Russian was the little dog they sent up in the satellite? On 12/3/2015 12:27 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: You know, Leica in Russian also means this device for watering plants: just copy this: "лейка" to google and look at the pictures - you'll see exactly what I mean. In a weird sense, your title reflects exactly that - plants and no leica to water them :-). On 12/1/2015 8:56, Larry Colen wrote: I played with my camera in my back yard for a few minutes this afternoon: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/23144266800/in/album-72157661743849741/ I didn't get much else worth showing in my back yard, but I went for a short walk in upper Wilder Ranch (off Empire grade) and got a few decent ones which fill out the set it's in. It was interesting comparing the results of HDR versus just a single frame when I was processing them. I also have a couple of panoramas of a meadow: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157661743849741/ -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Right place, right tiime
Don't have a 1600' TV tower in the back yard, but I'm real familiar with the effects of ice falling off of trees & power lines. This is more like the effects of ice I've had to deal with. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZT9p0Shq1c Mostly I avoid it by staying the hell off the road without an EXTREMELY compelling reason to go out. On 12/2/2015 9:29 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Here's a video from a 2007 ice storm in Oklahoma and chunks of ice falling off of a communication tower, with some impressive results. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfBp2QYOIbc On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:44 PM, John wrote: There appears to be some kind of freeze line that runs right along I-85. I think it's just a coincidence to where the highway was built, but I've noticed over the years that there's a divide that follows the highway ... north & west of the highway winter weather tends towards snow and south & east it tends toward sleet/freezing rain. On 11/30/2015 3:22 PM, Eric Weir wrote: On Nov 30, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Cool pic. People don't realize what a hazard that stuff is when it falls, though. Atlanta—inside the Perimeter anyway—is “the city built in a forest.” Lots and lots of mature trees. Get up in a high-rise, look down, you don’t see buildings. You see trees. Late winter-early spring we’re always at risk of getting rain right around freezing temperature. Ice builds up on trees. Branches start falling. Then trees. And with them the power lines. It’s worth putting up with, though. The trees are one of the truly wonderful things about the city. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
That's the PUG done for 2015 - December PUG is up
G'day all. Some very nice traditional tools in this collection - Collin's is superb and the monochrome efforts by Darren, Don & Frank are especially appealing. Rick's 'Harpsicord Building' is a well captured moment. Also some quite unusual interpretations of the theme. The stand-out for me is Bruce's 'Nude with Pipe Wrench and Bolt Cutter' - the title alone is worth the price of admission. An excellent way to wrap up 2015. As usual you'll find the gallery here: http://pug.komkon.org/ (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there). Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery, let me know. + And so to 2016. January's theme: "Reflection". Full Submissions Guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html You can submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/ Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.com - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Iowans & Winter
I thought the Iowan & Winter was a movie with Peter O'Toole Donald Guthrie wrote: No you are thinking of the Jersey Shore. :) We actually have a lot of perfect days here. Sometimes two three in the same year. Iowa is Indian for "Land of weather extremes." On 12/3/15 11:00 AM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 4 Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 10:39:15 -0500 From: "Daniel J. Matyola" To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Peso: Iowans & Winter Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Donald Guthrie wrote: >The thing about Iowans is no matter the weather they like to be a little bit >uncomfortable. Doesn't just being in Iowa make on uncomfortable? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - After The First Snow
Bulent,
It is a nice image.
I see a story, but it might be different from yours.
But on my, seemingly still calibrated, screen, - it looks a bit too dark.
If it were my image, I would have bumped up the exposure (in LR).
I would have also considered some "unsharpen mask" ("presence" in LR), -
to have the flower standing out more.
Best,
Igor
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote:
A simple composition.
https://celasun.wordpress.com/2015/12/03/after-the-first-snow/
It, however, tells me a story...
(Ricoh GXR A12).
Bulent
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Re: PESO - Colo(u)r Coordinated
I have spent about a week in Vancouver some ages ago. Stanley Park was simply adorable... I miss walking there and watching the ocean for a few minutes... Your reds speak to me... if only I could hear them as clearly as I did before! Bulent - http://patoloji.gen.tr http://celasun.wordpress.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun 2015-12-03 23:03 GMT+02:00 Rick Womer : > At the edge of Stanley Park in Vancouver: > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18135110&size=lg > > (K-5, DA 16-45) > > Comments appreciated. > > Rick > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - After The First Snow
Thanks, Rick. The story must be lost on everybody! It requires a very heavy dose of anthropomorphism... And it is best left untold since the image itself has enough graphic elements to rest upon. I am not sure, however, if color is really needed here. Bulent - http://patoloji.gen.tr http://celasun.wordpress.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun 2015-12-03 23:04 GMT+02:00 Rick Womer : > I like the photo, but the story is lost on me. > > Rick > http://photo.net/photos/RickW > > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Bulent Celasun > wrote: >> A simple composition. >> >> https://celasun.wordpress.com/2015/12/03/after-the-first-snow/ >> >> It, however, tells me a story... >> >> (Ricoh GXR A12). >> >> Bulent >> - >> http://patoloji.gen.tr >> http://celasun.wordpress.com/ >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ >> http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - After The First Snow
I like the photo, but the story is lost on me. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote: > A simple composition. > > https://celasun.wordpress.com/2015/12/03/after-the-first-snow/ > > It, however, tells me a story... > > (Ricoh GXR A12). > > Bulent > - > http://patoloji.gen.tr > http://celasun.wordpress.com/ > http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ > http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Colo(u)r Coordinated
At the edge of Stanley Park in Vancouver: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18135110&size=lg (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments appreciated. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - After The First Snow
A simple composition. https://celasun.wordpress.com/2015/12/03/after-the-first-snow/ It, however, tells me a story... (Ricoh GXR A12). Bulent - http://patoloji.gen.tr http://celasun.wordpress.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Kia Orana
A slice of paradise - as others have said, postcard perfect! On 12/1/2015 11:17 PM, David Mann wrote: Yesterday we arrived back from an enjoyable week on Rarotonga which is the largest of the Cook Islands. Here's a photo to make you feel miserable :) http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/939/#peso Hope I didn't miss too much, I have 501 messages... Cheers, Dave --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: Peso: Iowans & Winter
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Donald Guthrie wrote: > No you are thinking of the Jersey Shore. :) Despite Sandy, the Jersey Shore is still a wonderful place, even in winter. The ocean water there is of a temperature that actually permits one to enter it, unlike the ocean water of California or New England. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Iowans & Winter
Well put, Don! J Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 3, 2015, at 9:55 AM, Donald Guthrie wrote: > > No you are thinking of the Jersey Shore. :) > We actually have a lot of perfect days here. Sometimes two three in the same > year. Iowa is Indian for "Land of weather extremes." > >> On 12/3/15 11:00 AM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: >> Message: 4 >> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 10:39:15 -0500 >> From: "Daniel J. Matyola" >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: Peso: Iowans & Winter >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Donald Guthrie >>> wrote: >>> >The thing about Iowans is no matter the weather they like to be a little >>> >bit >>> >uncomfortable. >> Doesn't just being in Iowa make on uncomfortable? >> >> Dan Matyola >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Iowans & Winter
Well, I failed and moved to Calif. Was a good move! J Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 3, 2015, at 10:00 AM, Donald Guthrie wrote: > > Well casting no aspersions, but he is a college student and may may have > topped off his anti-freeze the night before. And maybe he is just young with > good circulation. Iowa is where you live just to prove it can be done. > >> On 12/3/15 11:00 AM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: >> Message: 5 >> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 15:45:51 + (UTC) >> From: Jack Davis >> To: PDML >> Subject: Re: Peso: Iowans & Winter >> Message-ID: >><1280557390.199122.1449157551583.javamail.zim...@comcast.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> Looks as if he congealed mid stride.:) >> I lived in Iowa for 20+ winters. >> I don't know what I was thinking. >> >> J >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Donald Guthrie" >> To: "PDML" >> Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 7:28:50 AM >> Subject: Peso: Iowans & Winter >> >> The thing about Iowans is no matter the weather they like to be a little >> bit uncomfortable. This photo is a bit of a Frankenstein creation. It >> was shot on Oly M4/3 using a 50 yr old 50mm Sears lens in the Pentax M42 >> mount. I cropped out 2/3rds of the photo and resized in Perfect resize >> to 11x14. It may or may not have been worth it but it was a fun experiment. >> Thanks for looking comments always welcomed. >> >> >> https://flic.kr/p/ANDJ3j >> >> -- > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Beading
"I have to love a group where pedantry is actually appreciated." MARK! http://photo.net/photos/RickW On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 2:26 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > > > knarf wrote: >> >> The Urban Dictionary agrees with you, Larry: >> >> "Beemer: Name for a motorcycle by the manufacturer BMW. >> Often confused with bimmer, what is the name for cars by the same >> manufacturer." > > > I used to be a member of the Airhead Beemer Club: > http://www.airheads.org/ > > back when I had a 1983 R80RT. It was a group that in many ways resembles > the camaraderie of the PDML. Granted, we wouldn't have club Canons, but here > are theirs: > > Club Canons > > Airheads ride Beemers with air-cooled heads. > Airheads believe that the simplest engineering solutions are the best. > Airheads appreciate function over form, fact over fiction, and > friendship over friction. > Airheads regard money as a tool, not a status symbol. > Airheads are earthly people who like to camp. > Airheads maintain their own motorcycles. > Airheads don't take themselves, religion or life too seriously. > Airheads like to share time, knowledge, parts and camaraderie with other > Airheads > > > > >> >> I thought the terms were interchangeable. I learned something new today... > > > I have to love a group where pedantry is actually appreciated. > >> >> Thanks! > > > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Iowans & Winter
Well casting no aspersions, but he is a college student and may may have topped off his anti-freeze the night before. And maybe he is just young with good circulation. Iowa is where you live just to prove it can be done. On 12/3/15 11:00 AM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 5 Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 15:45:51 + (UTC) From: Jack Davis To: PDML Subject: Re: Peso: Iowans & Winter Message-ID: <1280557390.199122.1449157551583.javamail.zim...@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Looks as if he congealed mid stride.:) I lived in Iowa for 20+ winters. I don't know what I was thinking. J - Original Message - From: "Donald Guthrie" To: "PDML" Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 7:28:50 AM Subject: Peso: Iowans & Winter The thing about Iowans is no matter the weather they like to be a little bit uncomfortable. This photo is a bit of a Frankenstein creation. It was shot on Oly M4/3 using a 50 yr old 50mm Sears lens in the Pentax M42 mount. I cropped out 2/3rds of the photo and resized in Perfect resize to 11x14. It may or may not have been worth it but it was a fun experiment. Thanks for looking comments always welcomed. https://flic.kr/p/ANDJ3j -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: Peso: Iowans & Winter
No you are thinking of the Jersey Shore. :) We actually have a lot of perfect days here. Sometimes two three in the same year. Iowa is Indian for "Land of weather extremes." On 12/3/15 11:00 AM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 4 Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 10:39:15 -0500 From: "Daniel J. Matyola" To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Peso: Iowans & Winter Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Donald Guthrie wrote: >The thing about Iowans is no matter the weather they like to be a little bit >uncomfortable. Doesn't just being in Iowa make on uncomfortable? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Small Wasp
Thanks Frank! On 12/2/2015 10:36 PM, knarf wrote: Your usual high standard. The macro world looks like an incredibly scary place. Cheers, frank On December 2, 2015 6:48:31 PM EST, Mark C wrote: Looks a little like a puppy to me: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/small-wasp-1 or on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/23370180022/ 8x lifesized. Pentax K01 and K 24 f3.5, lots of extension and flash. Comments welcome! Mark --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Small Wasp
Your technical mastery of this difficult field is impressive, to say the least. I don't particularly LIKE the images, but that is a "me" problem and not a "you" problem. :) On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Mark C wrote: > Since posting this I've learned that it is actually an ant queen, and not a > wasp, not that it makes much difference to the viewer. As nasty as ti looks, > the whole frame is covering less than 3mm of space, so the ant is very tiny > indeed. > > > On 12/3/2015 12:19 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: >> >> Certainly a creature one wouldn't want to meet in a dark alley :-). >> >> On 12/3/2015 1:48, Mark C wrote: >>> >>> Looks a little like a puppy to me: >>> >>> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/small-wasp-1 >>> >>> or on flickr: >>> >>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/23370180022/ >>> >>> 8x lifesized. Pentax K01 and K 24 f3.5, lots of extension and flash. >>> >>> Comments welcome! >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> --- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>> >>> >> >> > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Small Wasp
Since posting this I've learned that it is actually an ant queen, and not a wasp, not that it makes much difference to the viewer. As nasty as ti looks, the whole frame is covering less than 3mm of space, so the ant is very tiny indeed. On 12/3/2015 12:19 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Certainly a creature one wouldn't want to meet in a dark alley :-). On 12/3/2015 1:48, Mark C wrote: Looks a little like a puppy to me: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/small-wasp-1 or on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/23370180022/ 8x lifesized. Pentax K01 and K 24 f3.5, lots of extension and flash. Comments welcome! Mark --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Small Wasp
Thanks, Dan! It is amazing to see what these tiny things really look like! Mark On 12/2/2015 9:23 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Yet another masterful Macro! I love all of them, as ugly as some of them are. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 6:48 PM, Mark C wrote: Looks a little like a puppy to me: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/small-wasp-1 or on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/23370180022/ 8x lifesized. Pentax K01 and K 24 f3.5, lots of extension and flash. Comments welcome! Mark --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Adobe "mobile apps and services" with CC Photo plan
The Tablet aps are useful for some.For example when traveling you can look at a collection of photos select winners and even make adjustments to the photos which will be reflected the next time you open LR. The feature I am starting to use is the free unlimited online gallery. My last GESO to PDML was a link to my online Adobe cloud. You have complete control of which photos are public. You can set it up so that viewers to your site can select photos (to print for example) or even make comments. This seems to me to be very valuable to Wedding or event photographers. All this is done by flipping a switch on any collections you have created. Which can be flipped off and the photos disappear from the site but not you catalog. Pretty good for free. On 12/2/15 6:42 PM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 3 Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2015 13:53:24 -0600 From: Darren Addy To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: OT: Adobe "mobile apps and services" with CC Photo plan Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I don't recall seeing the "mobile apps and services" that are included with the $9.99 Creative Cloud Photography plan before (but maybe I was just not paying attention). https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/photography.html They include: https://www.adobe.com/products/fix.html https://www.adobe.com/products/lightroom-mobile.html https://www.adobe.com/products/mix.html https://standout.adobe.com/voice/ https://standout.adobe.com/slate/ https://www.adobe.com/products/premiere-clip.html https://www.myportfolio.com Has anyone used any of them or found any especially useful? -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Iowans & Winter
Looks as if he congealed mid stride. :) I lived in Iowa for 20+ winters. I don't know what I was thinking. J - Original Message - From: "Donald Guthrie" To: "PDML" Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 7:28:50 AM Subject: Peso: Iowans & Winter The thing about Iowans is no matter the weather they like to be a little bit uncomfortable. This photo is a bit of a Frankenstein creation. It was shot on Oly M4/3 using a 50 yr old 50mm Sears lens in the Pentax M42 mount. I cropped out 2/3rds of the photo and resized in Perfect resize to 11x14. It may or may not have been worth it but it was a fun experiment. Thanks for looking comments always welcomed. https://flic.kr/p/ANDJ3j -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Iowans & Winter
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Donald Guthrie wrote: > The thing about Iowans is no matter the weather they like to be a little bit > uncomfortable. Doesn't just being in Iowa make on uncomfortable? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Peso: Iowans & Winter
The thing about Iowans is no matter the weather they like to be a little bit uncomfortable. This photo is a bit of a Frankenstein creation. It was shot on Oly M4/3 using a 50 yr old 50mm Sears lens in the Pentax M42 mount. I cropped out 2/3rds of the photo and resized in Perfect resize to 11x14. It may or may not have been worth it but it was a fun experiment. Thanks for looking comments always welcomed. https://flic.kr/p/ANDJ3j -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Right place, right tiime
>Here's a video from a 2007 ice storm in Oklahoma and chunks of ice >falling off of a communication tower, with some impressive results. We were there for the 01 & 07 storms, though we departed just ahead of each. Driving through western OK one observes broken blackjack oak trees everywhere. They remain from the 01 storm. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO 2015 - 184 - GDG
Dusk light and streetlamp mixed ... https://flic.kr/p/BkXsGo I think this one benefits from being printed fairly large, and looks best in the full-resolution image. I liked the feel of the "grain" (noise) that was produced and did no smoothing or sharpening. full rez image: https://farm1.staticflickr.com/610/23467984666_3452563690_o.jpg enjoy, G The trouble with being punctual is that nobody's there to appreciate it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Bark in the Park
Thanks, Jack, Don, Igor Frank and Boris. It is a fun event. We have taken our Malemute at least once for the last 4 years or so. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 6:51 AM, Jack Davis wrote: > Well caught, Dan! > Nice tradition. > > J > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 1, 2015, at 9:50 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >> >> Our local minor league baseball park has a tradition; for several >> games each year, fans are invited to bring along their dogs to the >> ball game. (No cats!) The dogs and their owners parade around the >> field before the game, and them enjoy the ambiance, the food and the >> action on the field. >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18136013&size=lg >> K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom >> Comments are invited. >> >> Dan Matyola >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
