PESO 2016 - 148 - GDG

2016-07-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Another walk … 

  https://flic.kr/p/JkDVTk

enjoy! 
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Re: How many swallows make a summer?

2016-07-18 Thread Larry Colen



Bob W-PDML wrote:

Yes, and people react better to it than to a honking great slr.


Try a bright red K-r or a white K-x.  People love them and will smile 
when they see them just because they are so cute.



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Re: Amazon Prime Day VISA30 SNAFU

2016-07-18 Thread Larry Colen



Igor PDML-StR wrote:


Larry,

Sorry to hear about your problems with Chase/Amazon.

In my experience, Chase is an average bank: not the best, but not the
worst. (Citi is much worse.)


I'm pretty sure this was a team effort.



Amazon, on another hand, is a company that has one of the best records
for their performance and customer service. Walmart.com is actually
trying to catch up with Amazon but so far couldn't get even close -
neither in the technical aspects of the online orders and returns, nor
in the level of the customer service.


I will grant that Amazon has amazingly good customer service. As a 
matter of fact, a couple days after the fracas, I got an email from 
Amazon that they saw that I had unsuccessfully tried to use the visa30 
discount and credited my account with $30.


They also decided that my account was a business account, and as such, I 
get the prime free 2-day shipping on orders over $50 (or whatever it is).


That being said, just about every other aspect of Amazon is pure evil. 
The horrible working conditions of their employees have been the subject 
of many articles. A friend of mine is a Hugo winning author, and he has 
many stories of the ways that they totally screw over publishers and 
authors. Plus, many of their practices are designed to kill competitors. 
 So, I certainly have mixed feelings ordering from them.




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Re: PESO - Green Rose Chafer

2016-07-18 Thread Larry Colen



Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Ugly beast, fine image.


Jostein did take a fine image, but he's really not a beast.




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On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 4:52 PM, Jostein  wrote:


A beetle closeup made with K-5 and FA* 200/4 macro. Diffused TTL flash on
camera.

http://www.alunfoto.no/innhold/hargullbasse/

Still learning to make the most of this fabulous lens.

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Re: PESO: A better hummm

2016-07-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
Grandfather Mountain remains on my bucket list. 

Paul via phone

> On Jul 18, 2016, at 6:02 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> If either of you ever manage to make it to Grandfather Mountain ...
> 
> They don't have elephants, but they do have humming birds, and I've even
> seen a bear or two that weren't in the habitat area.
> 
>> On 7/18/2016 4:39 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Alan C wrote:
>>> Remarkable. I'll probably never see one.
>> 
>> Yeah, but I'm not too likely to see lions or elephants in the wild, so
>> there's that tradeoff.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Alan C
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 11:52 PM
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>> Subject: PESO: A better hummm
>>> 
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18261743&size=lg
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Re: PESO - Legacy 3

2016-07-18 Thread Marco Alpert
Thanks, Ken.

m

> On Jul 18, 2016, at 7:34 AM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
> Nicely captured.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
>> From: Marco Alpert 
>> Subject: PESO - Legacy 3
>> 
>> A late addition to the two I posted a couple of monrths ago.
>> 
>> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso7.html
>> 
>> Comments, as always, welcomed.
>> 
>> -Marco 
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Re: GESO Model A

2016-07-18 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks Ken. I arrived 1/2 hour before they did and scouted out some
angles, luckily the butter tart traffic was still light then


On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 3:04 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> Nice captures Dave. I like, that for the most part you captured the cars in
> a timeless fashion, not showing any trace of current time.
>
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> - Original Message - From: "David J Brooks" 
> Subject: GESO Model A
>
>
>> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2016-modela/album/index.html
>>
>> A small (30) gallery from Saturday
>>
>> Colour shots K-5 and Sigma 17-70
>>
>> B&W shots Fuji X30
>>
>> Dave
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Re: PESO: A better hummm

2016-07-18 Thread John

If either of you ever manage to make it to Grandfather Mountain ...

They don't have elephants, but they do have humming birds, and I've even
seen a bear or two that weren't in the habitat area.

On 7/18/2016 4:39 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



Alan C wrote:

Remarkable. I'll probably never see one.


Yeah, but I'm not too likely to see lions or elephants in the wild, so
there's that tradeoff.




Alan C

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Re: PESO - Green Rose Chafer

2016-07-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Ugly beast, fine image.


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On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 4:52 PM, Jostein  wrote:

> A beetle closeup made with K-5 and FA* 200/4 macro. Diffused TTL flash on
> camera.
>
> http://www.alunfoto.no/innhold/hargullbasse/
>
> Still learning to make the most of this fabulous lens.
>
> Jostein
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Re: PESO - Green Rose Chafer

2016-07-18 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Jostein,

That's a beautiful photo of a somewhat scary looking beast!
If you sat just a bit lower, you could probably get a catch-light in her
eyes.
;-)

Just kidding...

On a serious note, - photographing such colorful and reflective bugs 
can be challenging under the bright direct sun-light or with a flash.


Igor


On 18 Jul 2016, at 21:55, Jostein wrote:


A beetle closeup made with K-5 and FA* 200/4 macro. Diffused TTL flash on
camera.

http://www.alunfoto.no/innhold/hargullbasse/

Still learning to make the most of this fabulous lens.




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Re: PESO - Green Rose Chafer

2016-07-18 Thread Bob W-PDML
Very good!

B

> On 18 Jul 2016, at 21:55, Jostein  wrote:
> 
> A beetle closeup made with K-5 and FA* 200/4 macro. Diffused TTL flash on 
> camera.
> 
> http://www.alunfoto.no/innhold/hargullbasse/
> 
> Still learning to make the most of this fabulous lens.
> 
> 

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Re: Hummmm

2016-07-18 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Paul:  I've enjoyed both images, especially the second one.

As for the website posted by Mark, - it mayd me smiling:

   Basic answer to the question, "How do I freeze the wings?"
   Of course the short answer is . . .

Remember what Mark C. once wrote to my response about how he "freezes" 
insects, I was expecting something like:


 The only way to do that reliably is to put the bird in the freezer... ;-)


I've actually done freezing (in a freezer) a wasp I caught inside my 
house.

The problem was that it was warming up too quickly...

Cheers,

Igor


Mark Roberts Mon, 18 Jul 2016 13:29:41 -0700 wrote:

Paul Stenquist wrote:


This has been a minor obsession of mine. I know some list members have
shot hummingbirds. It’s definitely not impossible, although they rarely
stay in one place for more than a second. I don’t see a lot of the itty
bitty birds. But every once in a while a hummingbird will flit in among 

my

bee balm before disappearing. I’m usually focused on the tree branches
near my feeders, waiting for a finch, sparrow, chickadee or cardinal. By
the time I refocus to the bee balm, the hummer is gone. But not today.
Finally got one. Decent, not great. I’m intrigued by their speed and 

frail
bodies. They are obviously all muscle. The color isn’t beautiful, a 

subtle

green on the hummers I see, but it’s not awful. In any case, I got this
guy with the K-1, the DFA 150-450 and the 1.4X converter.630mm, f8,
1/500th, ISO 2000. A workable set of numbers.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18261742&size=lg



Nice! They're definitely difficult to photograph, given their
lightning-fast movement and the need for long glass. I once spent an
entire afternoon on the porch of our friend's cabin near GFM shooting
photos of the hummingbirds in their garden. I got 4 usable photos,
only two of which were really acceptable.

They people who are serious about hummingbird photography use 3 or 4
flash units but I've always preferred the look of natural light even
though is reduces your hit ration massively.

Check out this site:
http://www.dyesscreek.com/miscellaneous_pages/hummingbird_photography.html

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Re: PDML Photo Calendar - Cast your votes

2016-07-18 Thread Jostein

Another great product, Mark!
Thanks for putting my Dipper-shot in there, November seems like a very 
appropriate month for it.

Jostein

Den 18.07.2016 19.26, skrev Mark Roberts:

OK, it's on line and ready to go. The first PDML Photo Calendar
features 12 great photos, with no flower or cat photos and only one
sunset(!) Thanks to everyone who voted for shots to be included. The
only tough decision making was for photographers who had two of their
photos voted in (predictably, Annsan, Mark Cassino and Jostein).

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PESO - Green Rose Chafer

2016-07-18 Thread Jostein
A beetle closeup made with K-5 and FA* 200/4 macro. Diffused TTL flash 
on camera.


http://www.alunfoto.no/innhold/hargullbasse/

Still learning to make the most of this fabulous lens.

Jostein

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Re: PESO: A better hummm

2016-07-18 Thread Larry Colen



Alan C wrote:

Remarkable. I'll probably never see one.


Yeah, but I'm not too likely to see lions or elephants in the wild, so 
there's that tradeoff.





Alan C

-Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 11:52 PM
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Subject: PESO: A better hummm

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Re: Hummmm

2016-07-18 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote:

> This has been a minor obsession of mine. I know some list members have 
> shot hummingbirds. It’s definitely not impossible, although they rarely 
> stay in one place for more than a second. I don’t see a lot of the itty 
> bitty birds. But every once in a while a hummingbird will flit in among my 
> bee balm before disappearing. I’m usually focused on the tree branches 
> near my feeders, waiting for a finch, sparrow, chickadee or cardinal. By 
> the time I refocus to the bee balm, the hummer is gone. But not today. 
> Finally got one. Decent, not great. I’m intrigued by their speed and frail 
> bodies. They are obviously all muscle. The color isn’t beautiful, a subtle 
> green on the hummers I see, but it’s not awful. In any case, I got this 
> guy with the K-1, the DFA 150-450 and the 1.4X converter.630mm, f8, 
> 1/500th, ISO 2000. A workable set of numbers.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18261742&size=lg

Nice! They're definitely difficult to photograph, given their
lightning-fast movement and the need for long glass. I once spent an
entire afternoon on the porch of our friend's cabin near GFM shooting
photos of the hummingbirds in their garden. I got 4 usable photos,
only two of which were really acceptable.

They people who are serious about hummingbird photography use 3 or 4
flash units but I've always preferred the look of natural light even
though is reduces your hit ration massively.

Check out this site:
http://www.dyesscreek.com/miscellaneous_pages/hummingbird_photography.html
 
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Re: PESO - tree lily

2016-07-18 Thread Bruce Walker
Thanks, Gonz.

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Gonz  wrote:
> Beautiful
>
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>> Not much of a tree -- only about a meter off the ground -- but
>> technically a tree lily. As seen in my backyard early last evening.
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/28263766162/in/photostream/lightbox/
>>
>> 645Z, D-FA 645 90mm f:2.8 macro, f:4.0, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO.
>>
>> Used an Einstein strobe with an 8" reflector and 15 degree grid to
>> illuminate the flower. Very low power setting. Maybe 50cm away.
>>
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Re: Hummmm

2016-07-18 Thread Jack Davis
I agree, Ken!

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 18, 2016, at 12:18 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
> A female Ruby-throated Hummingbird. After many poor captures, I'm convinced a 
> flash is required for decent captures. I've shot many  hummers off my deck 
> with my 600 and as fun as it is to follow them my captures are terrible.
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" 
> Subject: PESO: Hu
> 
> 
>> This has been a minor obsession of mine. I know some list members have shot 
>> hummingbirds. It’s definitely not impossible, although they rarely stay in 
>> one place for more than a second. I don’t see a lot of the itty bitty birds. 
>> But every once in a while a hummingbird will flit in among my bee balm 
>> before disappearing. I’m usually focused on the tree branches near my 
>> feeders, waiting for a finch, sparrow, chickadee or cardinal. By the time I 
>> refocus to the bee balm, the hummer is gone. But not today. Finally got one. 
>> Decent, not great. I’m intrigued by their speed and frail bodies. They are 
>> obviously all muscle. The color isn’t beautiful, a subtle green on the 
>> hummers I see, but it’s not awful. In any case, I got this guy with the K-1, 
>> the DFA 150-450 and the 1.4X converter.630mm, f8, 1/500th, ISO 2000. A 
>> workable set of numbers.
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18261742&size=lg
>> 
>> Paul
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Re: Hummmm

2016-07-18 Thread Ken Waller
A female Ruby-throated Hummingbird. After many poor captures, I'm convinced 
a flash is required for decent captures. I've shot many  hummers off my deck 
with my 600 and as fun as it is to follow them my captures are terrible.


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Stenquist" 

Subject: PESO: Hu


This has been a minor obsession of mine. I know some list members have 
shot hummingbirds. It’s definitely not impossible, although they rarely 
stay in one place for more than a second. I don’t see a lot of the itty 
bitty birds. But every once in a while a hummingbird will flit in among my 
bee balm before disappearing. I’m usually focused on the tree branches 
near my feeders, waiting for a finch, sparrow, chickadee or cardinal. By 
the time I refocus to the bee balm, the hummer is gone. But not today. 
Finally got one. Decent, not great. I’m intrigued by their speed and frail 
bodies. They are obviously all muscle. The color isn’t beautiful, a subtle 
green on the hummers I see, but it’s not awful. In any case, I got this 
guy with the K-1, the DFA 150-450 and the 1.4X converter.630mm, f8, 
1/500th, ISO 2000. A workable set of numbers.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18261742&size=lg

Paul



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Re: PDML Photo Calendar - Cast your votes

2016-07-18 Thread Jack Davis
Nice and quick as well!

J

- Original Message -
From: "Mark Roberts" 
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Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 10:26:32 AM
Subject: Re: PDML Photo Calendar - Cast your votes

OK, it's on line and ready to go. The first PDML Photo Calendar
features 12 great photos, with no flower or cat photos and only one
sunset(!) Thanks to everyone who voted for shots to be included. The
only tough decision making was for photographers who had two of their
photos voted in (predictably, Annsan, Mark Cassino and Jostein).

Here it is:
http://www.lulu.com/shop/pdml/pdml-photo-calendar-2017/calendar/product-22793174.html

 
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Re: PESO: A better hummm

2016-07-18 Thread Jack Davis
Prefer this one!

J

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Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 9:37:00 AM
Subject: Re: PESO: A better hummm

I think the original is slightly better, but there's not a great difference.


On 7/17/2016 5:52 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18261743&size=lg
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Re: Sno Cone Break

2016-07-18 Thread Ken Waller

Cute Paul, but she doesn't look messy enough.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Stenquist" 

Subject: PESO: Sno Cone Break



A long day on the scooter calls for a bit of refreshment
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18261674&size=lg

Shot with the K-1 and the DA* 60-250/4. Vignetting with this lens is 
barely noticeable. That’s a good thing since it means I won’t have to rush 
a purchase of the 70-200/2.8. I’m loving the flip up screen. Shot this at 
kid level by using live view and tilting the screen into the full up 
position. I’m too old to get down on the ground. Not to mention that the 
sight of that would have frightened this little one.

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Re: GESO Model A

2016-07-18 Thread Ken Waller
Nice captures Dave. I like, that for the most part you captured the cars in 
a timeless fashion, not showing any trace of current time.


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- Original Message - 
From: "David J Brooks" 

Subject: GESO Model A



http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2016-modela/album/index.html

A small (30) gallery from Saturday

Colour shots K-5 and Sigma 17-70

B&W shots Fuji X30

Dave



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Re: PESO: Breakfast Serenade

2016-07-18 Thread Gonz
Interesting!  I'll have to remember that one.

Its mentioned in here too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenade

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> Nice shot indeed.
>
> Strictly speaking, if it's breakfast it's not a serenade, but an aubade.
>
> B
>
>> On 18 Jul 2016, at 17:40, Gonz  wrote:
>>
>> Had to take a snap of this...
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/27776625803/in/dateposted-public/
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Re: Amazon Prime Day VISA30 SNAFU

2016-07-18 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Larry,

Sorry to hear about your problems with Chase/Amazon.

In my experience, Chase is an average bank: not the best, but not 
the worst. (Citi is much worse.)


Amazon, on another hand, is a company that has one of the best records for 
their performance and customer service. Walmart.com is actually trying to 
catch up with Amazon but so far couldn't get even close - neither in the 
technical aspects of the online orders and returns, nor in the level of 
the customer service.


In the past several years of having Amazon Prime membership, we've had 
periods when a UPS guy was dropping off Amazon shipments 4 days a week.
That was a big time- (and money-) saver and a savior when you have a 
little kid (especially in the area where the stores carrying baby products 
are limited to Walmart & Target).


Actually, I think Amazon got us spoiled with the speed of delivery and 
quality of customer service that other stores are now having hard time to 
match that. I also think that Amazon was the reason why mail-order places 
such as B&H and Adorama had improved their policies and customer service 
in the past decade+ (and especially past 5-7 years).


Yes, we've had some screw-ups from Amazon, and one time (maybe 2?) we had 
to bring a present after the party happened. But in all cases, Amazon 
tried to do everything they realistically could to make up for the 
problem.


Just saying...

Igor



Larry Colen Wed, 13 Jul 2016 12:08:09 -0700 wrote:

I won't bore you with details of my travails right now but I got an email 
notification of a promotion $30 off any order of $150 or more using my 
Chase amazon rewards card. In the process of shopping I realized that I 
needed two more large hard drives as both my working drive and my 
secondary backup were close to full. When the dust settles, we're talking 
a $600 order, and at checkout, I find out via a terse error message that 
the discount code has been expired, over 12 hours early, and possibly just 
a few minutes before I tried to check out.



After spending much time on the phone yesterday with multiple calls to 
both Chase and Amazon, not even getting any sort of courtesy credit, I 
cancelled my Amazon rewards card. My new Costco card gives me as much cash 
back, it doesn't have to be at Amazon, and Costco is much less evil than 
Amazon. Actually, Costco seems to be pretty darned ethical while Amazon 
competes with Walmart in levels of evil.



This morning, the order that I had made, using the rewards card one last 
time to collect $120 in rewards, wouldn't go through. They had not charged 
the card when I made the order. I have 30 days to collect my rewards after 
cancelling, but there is no way to collect them. Another call to Amazon, 
then to Chase, with at least one transfer to someone in the right 
department, I at least got the $120 applied to my account.


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Re: How many swallows make a summer?

2016-07-18 Thread Bob W-PDML
Yes, and people react better to it than to a honking great slr.

> On 18 Jul 2016, at 13:36, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> Lovely stuff! 
> 
> I'm finding the M/M-D typ 262 very easy to get used to. They just work … get 
> out of the way and let you see. They may be the ultimate digital Ms. :-)
> 
> G
> 
> (I need to bring Felipe to London when it's hot there …)
> 
>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 10:15 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>> 
>> Another small gallery on a hot day in Olde London Towne. The last you'll see 
>> from me for a while as I have to go back to work tomorrow :0( 
>> 
>> It's been fun getting used to this camera.
>> 
>> http://www.web-options.com/T262e/
>> 
>> B
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Re: OT Invitation Scotchtrek Sept 10th, Felton CA

2016-07-18 Thread Larry Colen



Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

You are a brave man, Larry. {But we knew that already]

I may be going to CA this fall, but probably the SD area, which is
quite a
hike from you. I don't have a date yet, as others are involved.


A long hike, but only a one hour plane flight.



I do enjoy a wee dram!



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Re: How many swallows make a summer?

2016-07-18 Thread Jack Davis
How about, Tootsie?:)

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 18, 2016, at 11:30 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> Thanks. Just don't call me Pop, son.
> 
>> On 18 Jul 2016, at 17:14, John  wrote:
>> 
>> It's the same as the number of licks it takes to get to the center of a
>> Tootsie-Roll Pop.
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Re: Helter skelter

2016-07-18 Thread Bob W-PDML
Thanks Chris.

You know, you should sell all that Fuji kit, put those expensive guitars and 
Marshall amps that you can't use onto ebay, let the spare rooms out to rich 
foreign students, force Karin to go back to work, and get yourself a nice Leica 
kit. You know you want to.

B

> On 18 Jul 2016, at 17:48, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
> 
> Nice to see you inspired again Bob. A good set.
> Chris
> 
>> On 17 Jul 2016 11:26, "Bob W"  wrote:
>> 
>> "I'm coming down fast but don't let me break you"...
>> 
>> More snaps from Greenwich et ses alentours taken over the last couple of
>> days with the magnificent Leica M typ 262, and mainly the 1970 50/2
>> Summicron lens, but some with the 1982 90/2.8 Tele Elmarit-M.
>> 
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>> 
>> Comments always welcome.
>> 
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Re: PESO: Breakfast Serenade

2016-07-18 Thread Bob W-PDML
Nice shot indeed.

Strictly speaking, if it's breakfast it's not a serenade, but an aubade.

B

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> Had to take a snap of this...
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> https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/27776625803/in/dateposted-public/
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Re: How many swallows make a summer?

2016-07-18 Thread Bob W-PDML
Thanks. Just don't call me Pop, son.

> On 18 Jul 2016, at 17:14, John  wrote:
> 
> It's the same as the number of licks it takes to get to the center of a
> Tootsie-Roll Pop.
> 
> 

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Re: PESO - tree lily

2016-07-18 Thread Gonz
Beautiful

On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> Not much of a tree -- only about a meter off the ground -- but
> technically a tree lily. As seen in my backyard early last evening.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/28263766162/in/photostream/lightbox/
>
> 645Z, D-FA 645 90mm f:2.8 macro, f:4.0, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO.
>
> Used an Einstein strobe with an 8" reflector and 15 degree grid to
> illuminate the flower. Very low power setting. Maybe 50cm away.
>
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Re: OT Invitation Scotchtrek Sept 10th, Felton CA

2016-07-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
You are a brave man, Larry.  {But we knew that already]

I may be going to CA this fall, but probably the SD area, which is quite a
hike from you.  I don't have a date yet, as others are involved.

I do enjoy a wee dram!


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On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 2:11 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:

>
>
> Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
>> Where is it?
>>
>
> At my house in Felton CA, near Santa Cruz, about 75 miles South of San
> Francisco.
>
>
>
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>
>> Since Single Malts seem to be a popular topic of digression on this list,
>>> and I suspect more than a couple of the people have also enjoyed Star
>>> Trek
>>> over the past five decades 
>>>
>>> The fiftieth anniversary of Star Trek is a couple days after my birthday
>>> this year.  Meanwhile, people have been asking for a more serious Tour of
>>> the Isles, since Whiskymas has become more about just hanging out than
>>> serious tasting.
>>>
>>> So, the plan is that on Sept 10th, we'll be alternating rounds of Scotch
>>> tasting with watching select episodes from 50 years of Star Trek.  If a
>>> bunch of people are in town for it and are interested, we could do some
>>> photo trips one of the days before or after.
>>>
>>> Currently the few details are on the book of face. It's very loosely
>>> organized at this point, more of just a placemarker.
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/events/1681867365364197/
>>>
>>> We'll also probably be making homemade ice cream using liquid nitrogen
>>> and
>>> other fun party activities, including a bit of fizzball down by the
>>> river.
>>>
>>> We should also have plenty of crash space for folks from out of town.
>>>
>>>
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Re: OT Invitation Scotchtrek Sept 10th, Felton CA

2016-07-18 Thread Larry Colen



Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Felton, I mean.  Neat SF?


Yes.  We'll be hosting Camp Blues again this year over Labor Day 
weekend, the weekend before, so the house will already be set up for 
large numbers of people and general celebration.


I know that several members of the list occasionally pass through the 
bay area, so this might be an opportunity to schedule their trips 
appropriately.


Experience has taught that day trips to places like Big Sur or Yosemite, 
each 1-3 hours away, work a lot better midweek than on weekends.  GFM 
isn't exactly convenient for us west coast folks, so this might be a fun 
excuse to get together, play with cameras and drink whisky.






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On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:


Since Single Malts seem to be a popular topic of digression on this list,
and I suspect more than a couple of the people have also enjoyed Star Trek
over the past five decades 

The fiftieth anniversary of Star Trek is a couple days after my birthday
this year.  Meanwhile, people have been asking for a more serious Tour of
the Isles, since Whiskymas has become more about just hanging out than
serious tasting.

So, the plan is that on Sept 10th, we'll be alternating rounds of Scotch
tasting with watching select episodes from 50 years of Star Trek.  If a
bunch of people are in town for it and are interested, we could do some
photo trips one of the days before or after.

Currently the few details are on the book of face. It's very loosely
organized at this point, more of just a placemarker.

https://www.facebook.com/events/1681867365364197/

We'll also probably be making homemade ice cream using liquid nitrogen and
other fun party activities, including a bit of fizzball down by the river.

We should also have plenty of crash space for folks from out of town.


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Re: OT Invitation Scotchtrek Sept 10th, Felton CA

2016-07-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Felton, I mean.  Neat SF?


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On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:

> Since Single Malts seem to be a popular topic of digression on this list,
> and I suspect more than a couple of the people have also enjoyed Star Trek
> over the past five decades 
>
> The fiftieth anniversary of Star Trek is a couple days after my birthday
> this year.  Meanwhile, people have been asking for a more serious Tour of
> the Isles, since Whiskymas has become more about just hanging out than
> serious tasting.
>
> So, the plan is that on Sept 10th, we'll be alternating rounds of Scotch
> tasting with watching select episodes from 50 years of Star Trek.  If a
> bunch of people are in town for it and are interested, we could do some
> photo trips one of the days before or after.
>
> Currently the few details are on the book of face. It's very loosely
> organized at this point, more of just a placemarker.
>
> https://www.facebook.com/events/1681867365364197/
>
> We'll also probably be making homemade ice cream using liquid nitrogen and
> other fun party activities, including a bit of fizzball down by the river.
>
> We should also have plenty of crash space for folks from out of town.
>
>
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Re: OT Invitation Scotchtrek Sept 10th, Felton CA

2016-07-18 Thread Larry Colen



Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Where is it?


At my house in Felton CA, near Santa Cruz, about 75 miles South of San 
Francisco.





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On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:


Since Single Malts seem to be a popular topic of digression on this list,
and I suspect more than a couple of the people have also enjoyed Star Trek
over the past five decades 

The fiftieth anniversary of Star Trek is a couple days after my birthday
this year.  Meanwhile, people have been asking for a more serious Tour of
the Isles, since Whiskymas has become more about just hanging out than
serious tasting.

So, the plan is that on Sept 10th, we'll be alternating rounds of Scotch
tasting with watching select episodes from 50 years of Star Trek.  If a
bunch of people are in town for it and are interested, we could do some
photo trips one of the days before or after.

Currently the few details are on the book of face. It's very loosely
organized at this point, more of just a placemarker.

https://www.facebook.com/events/1681867365364197/

We'll also probably be making homemade ice cream using liquid nitrogen and
other fun party activities, including a bit of fizzball down by the river.

We should also have plenty of crash space for folks from out of town.


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Re: OT Invitation Scotchtrek Sept 10th, Felton CA

2016-07-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Where is it?


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On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:

> Since Single Malts seem to be a popular topic of digression on this list,
> and I suspect more than a couple of the people have also enjoyed Star Trek
> over the past five decades 
>
> The fiftieth anniversary of Star Trek is a couple days after my birthday
> this year.  Meanwhile, people have been asking for a more serious Tour of
> the Isles, since Whiskymas has become more about just hanging out than
> serious tasting.
>
> So, the plan is that on Sept 10th, we'll be alternating rounds of Scotch
> tasting with watching select episodes from 50 years of Star Trek.  If a
> bunch of people are in town for it and are interested, we could do some
> photo trips one of the days before or after.
>
> Currently the few details are on the book of face. It's very loosely
> organized at this point, more of just a placemarker.
>
> https://www.facebook.com/events/1681867365364197/
>
> We'll also probably be making homemade ice cream using liquid nitrogen and
> other fun party activities, including a bit of fizzball down by the river.
>
> We should also have plenty of crash space for folks from out of town.
>
>
> --
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OT Invitation Scotchtrek Sept 10th, Felton CA

2016-07-18 Thread Larry Colen
Since Single Malts seem to be a popular topic of digression on this 
list, and I suspect more than a couple of the people have also enjoyed 
Star Trek over the past five decades 


The fiftieth anniversary of Star Trek is a couple days after my birthday 
this year.  Meanwhile, people have been asking for a more serious Tour 
of the Isles, since Whiskymas has become more about just hanging out 
than serious tasting.


So, the plan is that on Sept 10th, we'll be alternating rounds of Scotch 
tasting with watching select episodes from 50 years of Star Trek.  If a 
bunch of people are in town for it and are interested, we could do some 
photo trips one of the days before or after.


Currently the few details are on the book of face. It's very loosely 
organized at this point, more of just a placemarker.


https://www.facebook.com/events/1681867365364197/

We'll also probably be making homemade ice cream using liquid nitrogen 
and other fun party activities, including a bit of fizzball down by the 
river.


We should also have plenty of crash space for folks from out of town.


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Re: PESO: A better hummm

2016-07-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 12:37 PM, John  wrote:

> I think the original is slightly better, but there's not a great
> difference.


Agreed.

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Re: PDML Photo Calendar - Cast your votes

2016-07-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Great job, Mark!

All of the included images are superior.

Just placed my order.

Dan

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On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 1:26 PM, Mark Roberts 
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> OK, it's on line and ready to go. The first PDML Photo Calendar
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> sunset(!) Thanks to everyone who voted for shots to be included. The
> only tough decision making was for photographers who had two of their
> photos voted in (predictably, Annsan, Mark Cassino and Jostein).
>
> Here it is:
>
> http://www.lulu.com/shop/pdml/pdml-photo-calendar-2017/calendar/product-22793174.html
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Adoramapix is unreliable (Adoramapix woes)

2016-07-18 Thread Igor PDML-StR


I appreciate everybody's responses with the suggestions of alternatives 
places.


I thought I'd provide an update about the saga with AdoramaPix.

Last week, I spoke with Adoramapix representatives and they offered as one 
of the options to upload the files with the SRGB color space and they said 
they would do "their best effort" to expedite printing and to ship 
overnight it after that. I indicated (as with the original order), that

I hoped to receive it by Saturday.
 That was Tuesday afternoon (July 12).
At that point I thought maybe they are good about taking care of the 
hiccups (and almost wrote about it to PDML..., but decided to wait till 
the end).


Today is July 18, the date by which my original order should have arrived, 
and they still haven't finished printing the "expedited" order,
"because due to the high volume of orders they had technical 
difficulties".


So much for "expediting".
 (Their website says: "Our normal turnaround on prints is 2-4 days. 
Expedited service will cut this turnaround down to 1 business day. Please 
have your orders in before 10am in order to get them shipped out the same 
day.")


They didn't bother contacting me, or responding to my e-mail inquiry I 
sent on Friday.


Ufortunately, I no longer need some 60 photos from that 
order after today. In the end, I had to order those photos to be printed 
at Walmart 1-hour lab. So, I canceled that order (even though I paid only 
the shipping, as I used their 100 free prints offer).
Obviously nobody can return me the time wasted for ordering on their 
website (which is quite considerable, as the UI is very sluggish).


While I admit that I should have been more careful and should have noticed 
that they only accept SRGB images, their handling of the order is far from 
what you expect from a "professional print shop": They e-mailed me that 
they cannot deal with any other color spaces, and didn't tell me what 
would be happening next, or what my options were. They didn't tell me that 
the order was put on hold. And that was already a full week (!) after 
the order was placed.


And even if they had the printer breaking (the way the CSR spoke about 
that was not straight forward and was not convincing), they should be 
informing about that, especially for the "Expedited" orders.
If you paid the expedited fee and overnight shipping and had not received 
it after 6 days with a total silence about the delay, what would be your 
reaction?


Bottom line:
Terrible-terrible service. Far from "professional".

Additionally, - the information about the order status does not get 
updated on the website. The order that was cancelled last Tuesday is still 
showing as "processing". There is also an old order that shows 2006 in one 
place and 2012 in another; the status for it is "processing".



Conclusions:
1. If I'd ever use Adoramapix again, that would be for the jobs where I 
can wait for at least a month.

2. Free cheese is only in a mousetrap.

Caveat Emptor!

Igor

PS. Sorry for the lengthy message. - I am not trying to vent here.
I am rather calm about it. But  I wanted to make other aware of what can 
go wrong with Adoramapix, should you consider using this lab in the 
future. Adoramapix is  _UNRELIABLE_ .




On Mon, 11 Jul 2016, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




I've be seriously disappointed by Adoramapix today.
And there might be some useful information (a warning) for anybody who 
considers using them.


Well, let me tell the entire story.
In the era of film, I've used to print at Adorama store in person, while 
living in NYC, and I had my favorite master that I was asking to print my 
photos, even if that would take an extra day because it wasn't his day.

The way Michael was doing colors was what I wanted.

Then after moving away from NYC, I've used Adoramapix a few times to order 
photos via mail to some relatives on the East cost, and some photos for 
myself.
Fast-forward some 8-10 years. A few months ago, Adoramapix started sending 
their spam (aka UCE) to the address used for my account with them.
That's after more than 8 years of no relations. (This IS a violation of the 
existing, albeit miserably failed anti-spam laws. But this message is not 
about that.)
Just before July 1, I've got an e-mail from them with a special code for 100 
free 4x6 photos.


I actually needed to print something. So, I ordered them. Of course, the 
shipping is not free, and the faster you want them shipped things quicly pick 
up quite some price (that's apart from the "rush processing" if you want to 
have them printed within less then a week).


I've sent photos with the embedded Adober RGB (And a few with PhotoRGB) color 
profiles. At the last moment, I've written in the comments that

is am embedded color profile in each photo (PhotoRGB or AdobeRGB).
A week later (when I am thinking that my order is hopefully already put in 
the mail), I am getting an e-mail message (in between 4 identical 
Adorama+AdoramaPix spam messages "Adorama + Nigel Ba

Re: PDML Photo Calendar - Cast your votes

2016-07-18 Thread Bruce Walker
Very cool!  Pleased to be in it. :)


On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 1:26 PM, Mark Roberts
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> sunset(!) Thanks to everyone who voted for shots to be included. The
> only tough decision making was for photographers who had two of their
> photos voted in (predictably, Annsan, Mark Cassino and Jostein).
>
> Here it is:
> http://www.lulu.com/shop/pdml/pdml-photo-calendar-2017/calendar/product-22793174.html
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Re: PDML Photo Calendar - Cast your votes

2016-07-18 Thread Mark Roberts
OK, it's on line and ready to go. The first PDML Photo Calendar
features 12 great photos, with no flower or cat photos and only one
sunset(!) Thanks to everyone who voted for shots to be included. The
only tough decision making was for photographers who had two of their
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Here it is:
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Re: Windoze 10

2016-07-18 Thread Alan C
Unfortunately, yes, & I'm pissed off too. SA has one of the highest data 
costs in the world. I pay 8c/Mb so the 3gig download costs R240 x 3 = R720 
or about $50. They've been nagging me too. The free offer ends on 28th July 
so I've decided to have another try at a free WiFi hotspot but it will take 
about 90min because the speed is quite low. Enough time for a couple of 
ales.


Alan C

-Original Message- 
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Subject: Re: Windoze 10

On 7/18/2016 12:43 AM, Alan C wrote:

My wife upgraded very quickly & everything still works OK, even some old
stuff. On the surface, not much different to Win7. I've had 3 attempts &
every time the upgrade failed at the installation stage - wasted quite a
few "bob" on the downloads.

Alan C



Just out of idle curiosity, are you on some kind of metered internet
where you have to pay by the number of bytes you download?

A failed installation I'd been frog-marched into under those
circumstances would *REALLY* piss me off!

Right now I'm just annoyed by the constant pop-ups nagging me to
"upgrade". No matter what I'm doing, when a Windoze10 nag pop-up occurs,
it steals the focus & breaks my concentration.



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Re: Helter skelter

2016-07-18 Thread Chris Mitchell
Nice to see you inspired again Bob. A good set.
Chris

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> "I'm coming down fast but don't let me break you"...
>
> More snaps from Greenwich et ses alentours taken over the last couple of
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> Summicron lens, but some with the 1982 90/2.8 Tele Elmarit-M.
>
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> Comments always welcome.
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PESO: Breakfast Serenade

2016-07-18 Thread Gonz
Had to take a snap of this...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/27776625803/in/dateposted-public/

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Re: PESO: A better hummm

2016-07-18 Thread John

I think the original is slightly better, but there's not a great difference.


On 7/17/2016 5:52 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18261743&size=lg



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Re: Windoze 10

2016-07-18 Thread John

On 7/18/2016 12:43 AM, Alan C wrote:

My wife upgraded very quickly & everything still works OK, even some old
stuff. On the surface, not much different to Win7. I've had 3 attempts &
every time the upgrade failed at the installation stage - wasted quite a
few "bob" on the downloads.

Alan C



Just out of idle curiosity, are you on some kind of metered internet
where you have to pay by the number of bytes you download?

A failed installation I'd been frog-marched into under those
circumstances would *REALLY* piss me off!

Right now I'm just annoyed by the constant pop-ups nagging me to
"upgrade". No matter what I'm doing, when a Windoze10 nag pop-up occurs,
it steals the focus & breaks my concentration.



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Re: How many swallows make a summer?

2016-07-18 Thread Larry Colen
Ask John Powers.

On July 17, 2016 10:15:17 AM PDT, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>Another small gallery on a hot day in Olde London Towne. The last
>you'll see from me for a while as I have to go back to work tomorrow
>:0( 
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>It's been fun getting used to this camera.
>
>http://www.web-options.com/T262e/
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Re: PESO - Zinnia Bud

2016-07-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I don't particularly care for zinnias, but that that image is stunningly
attractive.


Dan Matyola
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On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Mark C  wrote:

> Playing in the garden yesterday:
>
> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/zinnia-bud
>
> or on flickr:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/28368656515/
>
> Mz-S, A* 200mm macro, Arista EDU Ultra 100 (rebadge of Foma 100) in
> Rodinal 1:50.
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> Comments welcome -
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Re: How many swallows make a summer?

2016-07-18 Thread John

It's the same as the number of licks it takes to get to the center of a
Tootsie-Roll Pop.

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OT - shooting high -- Charles Ebbets

2016-07-18 Thread Igor PDML-StR


I came across the photo at the top of this page:
http://www.ebbetsphoto-graphics.com/page/about-the-artist/
Charles Ebbets preparing for his “Lunch atop a Skyscraper” photograph in 
1932. He was on the 69th floor of the GE building.


In this gallery, you can see his other "high" photos:
http://www.ebbetsphoto-graphics.com/gallery/charlies-classics/miscellaneous-9-000-men-on-beam-at-rockefeller-center-1932/#/gallery/charlies-classics/miscellaneous-9-000-men-on-beam-at-rockefeller-center-1932/

I assume many PDMLers may know these photos, but I thought they deserve to 
be seen again.


Cheers,

Igor


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Re: PESO: A better hummm

2016-07-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 12:36 AM, Alan C  wrote:

> Remarkable. I'll probably never see one.


Seeing them in not that difficult.  Capturing a decent image of a hummer is
quite difficult.  Getting one as good as this one is indeed remarkable.


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Re: PESO: A better hummm

2016-07-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Another excellent image!

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> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18261743&size=lg
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Re: OT: Windoze 10

2016-07-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
All my software appears to be working normally with WinDoze 10


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On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 11:49 PM, Bob Sullivan 
wrote:

> My question is if my installed Excell, Word. Access, Lightroom, etc.
> will all work on Windows 10.
> Any experienced users?  I don't want to buy this stuff again!!!
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 6:31 PM, John  wrote:
> > I don't know whether it's any good or not, but it's starting to piss me
> > off!. I don't like feeling like I'm being stampeded.
> >
> > Feels like the old days when Micro$oft was trying to waterboard any
> > product that might offer an alternative.
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Re: PESO - Legacy 3

2016-07-18 Thread Ken Waller
Nicely captured.


-Original Message-
>From: Marco Alpert 
>Subject: PESO - Legacy 3
>
>A late addition to the two I posted a couple of monrths ago.
>
>http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso7.html
>
>Comments, as always, welcomed.
>
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Re: OT: Windoze 10

2016-07-18 Thread Mark C
I updated two PC's to Win 10 with no major issues. The touchscreen on my 
wife's laptop stopped working but running the hardware trouble shooter 
(or something like that) fixed it.


On 7/17/2016 11:49 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

My question is if my installed Excell, Word. Access, Lightroom, etc.
will all work on Windows 10.
Any experienced users?  I don't want to buy this stuff again!!!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 6:31 PM, John  wrote:

I don't know whether it's any good or not, but it's starting to piss me
off!. I don't like feeling like I'm being stampeded.

Feels like the old days when Micro$oft was trying to waterboard any
product that might offer an alternative.


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Re: PESO: Hummmm

2016-07-18 Thread Mark C

Nice shot, Paul. I like the slight motion blur in the wings.

Mark

On 7/17/2016 5:40 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

This has been a minor obsession of mine. I know some list members have shot 
hummingbirds. It’s definitely not impossible, although they rarely stay in one 
place for more than a second. I don’t see a lot of the itty bitty birds. But 
every once in a while a hummingbird will flit in among my bee balm before 
disappearing. I’m usually focused on the tree branches near my feeders, waiting 
for a finch, sparrow, chickadee or cardinal. By the time I refocus to the bee 
balm, the hummer is gone. But not today. Finally got one. Decent, not great. 
I’m intrigued by their speed and frail bodies. They are obviously all muscle. 
The color isn’t beautiful, a subtle green on the hummers I see, but it’s not 
awful. In any case, I got this guy with the K-1, the DFA 150-450 and the 1.4X 
converter.630mm, f8, 1/500th, ISO 2000. A workable set of numbers.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18261742&size=lg

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Re: How many swallows make a summer?

2016-07-18 Thread Jack Davis
Not sure, but I've heard that "one swallow does not a summer make."

J

- Original Message -
From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" 
To: "PDML" 
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 5:35:03 AM
Subject: Re: How many swallows make a summer?

Lovely stuff! 

I'm finding the M/M-D typ 262 very easy to get used to. They just work … get 
out of the way and let you see. They may be the ultimate digital Ms. :-)

G

(I need to bring Felipe to London when it's hot there …)

> On Jul 17, 2016, at 10:15 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> Another small gallery on a hot day in Olde London Towne. The last you'll see 
> from me for a while as I have to go back to work tomorrow :0( 
> 
> It's been fun getting used to this camera.
> 
> http://www.web-options.com/T262e/
> 
> B


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Re: How many swallows make a summer?

2016-07-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Lovely stuff! 

I'm finding the M/M-D typ 262 very easy to get used to. They just work … get 
out of the way and let you see. They may be the ultimate digital Ms. :-)

G

(I need to bring Felipe to London when it's hot there …)

> On Jul 17, 2016, at 10:15 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> Another small gallery on a hot day in Olde London Towne. The last you'll see 
> from me for a while as I have to go back to work tomorrow :0( 
> 
> It's been fun getting used to this camera.
> 
> http://www.web-options.com/T262e/
> 
> B


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Re: PESO - Zinnia Bud

2016-07-18 Thread Mark C

Thanks, Bruce!

On 7/17/2016 3:35 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Beautiful and elegant, Mark.

Sent from my iPad


On Jul 17, 2016, at 2:39 PM, Mark C  wrote:

Playing in the garden yesterday:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/zinnia-bud

or on flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/28368656515/

Mz-S, A* 200mm macro, Arista EDU Ultra 100 (rebadge of Foma 100) in Rodinal 
1:50.

Comments welcome -

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Re: OT: Windoze 10

2016-07-18 Thread Bill

On 7/17/2016 9:49 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

My question is if my installed Excell, Word. Access, Lightroom, etc.
will all work on Windows 10.
Any experienced users?  I don't want to buy this stuff again!!!



I had no comparability issues with my install. I believe MS has a small 
application you can download to test your system for these sorts of things.



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Re: Hyperfocal distance and circle of confusion in metadatafile of Pentax K5 and K1

2016-07-18 Thread Jos from Holland

I agree with you fully.
But still it is fun for me, thinking of possibilities to make the 
focusing process more intelligent, meaning faster and more accurate, but 
not more accurate than needed.
If the system knows  the depth of field, it can take the allowable error 
into account and optimize speed with that information.


I did not check all my lenses. But I checked an old and a new Sigma 
lens. Both lenses have a lens ID in the metadata that is used by several 
different lenses with totally different minimum focus distances. So it 
must be another lens code informing the camera about the minimum focus 
distance. If that is true, than LR gets more information to show the 
correct lens name, and not: Lens1 or lens2 or lens3 as it does now 
sometimes.


And why is the camera spending time in calculating the hyperfocal 
distance? Is it using that? And why is it passing that information to us 
in the metadata file? And also the circle of diffusion it used in the 
calculation? Who will use that info down the line?
I realize that if I get information, I start to think about it. And if I 
donot see the logic, I think harder .


Greetz, Jos



On 18-Jul-16 06:15, P.J. Alling wrote:
I don't think the camera knows the minimum focus distance on any lens 
that doesn't have that data on it's chip.  So it's only available for 
some F series lenses and later.  It might also be available from the A 
lenses supplied with the MZ/ZX-M I think there were two lenses that 
were pretty much the same as their FA counterparts, a 35-80 and a 
80-200mm, which might be pretty rare as the FA versions were pretty 
inexpensive to begin with.


I really don't think that the autofocus system is smart enough nor are 
the lenses standardized enough for the system to interpolate anything 
about focus throw.


The AF system misses the focus point and simply tries again, running 
through the entire range of the lens.  If after a certain amount of 
effort, which seems to be random, but probably isn't, it simply gives 
up.  The K-5II gives up a lot less often, and gets the right focus 
more often, than earlier cameras but it still gives up eventually.


On 7/17/2016 12:46 PM, Jos from Holland wrote:
The metadata also shows the minimum focus distance. How can the 
camera know, even when it does not know which lens is mounted?


Only the lens can tell the minimum focus distance.

But if the camera knows the minimum and maximum focus distance, than 
it could estimate the focus distance!


Is that why it hunts now and than: to throw the AF between minimum 
and maximum focus distance and interpolate values in between?:-)




Greetz, Jos

On 17-Jul-16 18:11, Larry Colen wrote:



Jos from Holland wrote:

Going through the metadata of K5 and K1 files I observed that the
hyper-focal distance is available, based on the applied aperture and
focal length.

Wouldn't it be nice if this info was visible on camera for manual
adjustment, or even better an select-able auto focus mode with
hyper-focal priority?


I wish the lens mounts would return focus distance to the camera body.

If they can engrave it on the lens, then they can know it 
electronically.




Also the circle of confusion is given: 0.02mm for K5 and 0.03mm for 
K1.

Considering the a full frame camera will / can be used for larger
prints, I would prefer to keep the circle at 0.02mm for K1 as well. Or
better: user selection of he circle size resulting in corresponding
hyper focal distance.
Greetz, Jos














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