GESO - the final Coyles in the USA

[John Coyle]

San Francisco, 9-13/11/16

http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~jcoyle/USA/SanFrancisco2/album

We went for redwoods to Taylorville, as Muir Woods was so crowded, it being a 
public holiday, that
parking was impossible.  Many, many thanks to Larry once more for going so far 
to show us one of the
great trees.

Comments, etc. welcomed.


John in Brisbane



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Re: OT: Water your wiskey

[mike wilson]

I pulled a sickie on Unicorn day, to my everlasting regret.

> On 24 August 2017 at 22:15 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> Jeez, Mike, I thought you knew everything there is to know about biology. I'm
> disappointed in you. There are no unicorn stallions - it's all done through
> parthenogenesis and twinkle dust.
> 
> > 
> >> On 8/24/2017 00:08, mike wilson wrote:
> >> What's wrong with stallion water?
> >> 
> >>> On 23 August 2017 at 19:32 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> I have mine distilled from the pee of unicorn fillies, filtered through
> >>> freshly-crushed diamond powder.
> >>> 
>  On 23 Aug 2017, at 18:07, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>  
>  That's one of several reasons that I recommend freshly filtered tap water
>  for coffee and for whisky.

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Re: GESO: Different Moons

[Anthony Farr]

The lower picture looks like a projection onto black paper. I think that's
the paper's texture showing through the image. If so, then it's 'wrong
reading' aka a mirror image, because we're looking at the reflection side
rather than the transmission side.

regards, Anthony

On 25 August 2017 at 08:29, Larry Colen  wrote:

>
>
> Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
>> These two rather crude images where taken at the same location in New
>> Jersey within a few minutes of each other:
>>
>> https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/
>> 8/24/different-moons
>>
>> Someone asked me why the crescents are reversed.  Can you deduce the
>> reason
>> they are so different?
>>
>
> For the same reason that the moon is black in both of them.
>
>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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OT Hopper's lost photos

[Larry Colen]

James Dean told Dennis Hopper that doing photography would help him as a 
director. His photos do not suck.


http://www.laweekly.com/arts/dennis-hoppers-lost-photographs-on-display-at-kohn-gallery-reveal-the-soul-of-an-artist-8406567


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Re: Different Moons

[John]

Oh. I thought it was because one was taken before the peak and the other 
was taken after the peak.


On 8/24/2017 20:10, Bob W-PDML wrote:

You're overcomplicating it. It's quite straightforward really. After he took 
the first picture he turned round and photographed it again, from the other 
side.


On 25 Aug 2017, at 00:54, Ken Waller  wrote:

Ok I'll play

One was an actual capture of the eclipse while the other, (B+W) was a capture 
of the projection of the eclipse through a pin hole.

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- Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
Subject: GESO: Different Moons



These two rather crude images where taken at the same location in New
Jersey within a few minutes of each other:

https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/8/24/different-moons

Someone asked me why the crescents are reversed.  Can you deduce the reason
they are so different?

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola



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Re: Eclipse

[John]

I made it blue on purpose.

On 8/24/2017 19:48, Ken Waller wrote:

Nice capture but I wonder about the blue halo.

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- Original Message - From: "John" 
Subject: PESO: Eclipse



Totality seen from Hopkinsville, KY

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/36735354476




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Re: Different Moons

[Bob W-PDML]

You're overcomplicating it. It's quite straightforward really. After he took 
the first picture he turned round and photographed it again, from the other 
side.

> On 25 Aug 2017, at 00:54, Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
> Ok I'll play
> 
> One was an actual capture of the eclipse while the other, (B+W) was a capture 
> of the projection of the eclipse through a pin hole.
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
> Subject: GESO: Different Moons
> 
> 
>> These two rather crude images where taken at the same location in New
>> Jersey within a few minutes of each other:
>> 
>> https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/8/24/different-moons
>> 
>> Someone asked me why the crescents are reversed.  Can you deduce the reason
>> they are so different?
>> 
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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Re: Different Moons

[Ken Waller]

Ok I'll play

One was an actual capture of the eclipse while the other, (B+W) was a 
capture of the projection of the eclipse through a pin hole.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 

Subject: GESO: Different Moons



These two rather crude images where taken at the same location in New
Jersey within a few minutes of each other:

https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/8/24/different-moons

Someone asked me why the crescents are reversed.  Can you deduce the 
reason

they are so different?

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola



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Re: Eclipse

[Ken Waller]

Nice capture but I wonder about the blue halo.

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- Original Message - 
From: "John" 

Subject: PESO: Eclipse



Totality seen from Hopkinsville, KY

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/36735354476

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My eclipse story

[Larry Colen]

I've posted the quick preview of photos on facebook, but haven't had 
time to sit down and seriously go through my photos from the past week. 
For those a bit more interested in the experience itself, and what I've 
learned about photographing eclipses:


TLDR; Due to ignorance and lack of preparation, I made some crucial 
mistakes, however despite all of that, considering my resources of time, 
money, energy etc. I still had an amazing experience, got a few photos 
that I don't need to be ashamed of, and managed to strike a reasonable 
balance between "being there" and taking home some trophy photos.


I do hope to start posting some other photos from the trip soon.

snipped from my post on facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/ellarsee/posts/10155712088594673

That was the shortest 121 seconds of my life.
There are things that cannot be understood until they've been 
experienced, and a total solar eclipse is definitely in that category. 
I've heard a lot of people say that they didn't want to go because: they 
aren't interested in science, it's not worth a long drive, they can get 
as good of a view on their computer, and so forth. That's like saying 
that you aren't interested in sunsets because you aren't interested in 
science, you aren't interested in live concerts because the sound is 
better on your home stereo, or you aren't interested in sex because you 
don't want to have children.
The experience was incredible, and I can see how it could become 
addictive. There was so much to experience that trying to make sure I 
didn't miss one thing meant that I missed something else.
Considering how far off the predictions of apoceclipse were, a 
tremendous number of people completely blew an incredible opportunity. 
Our camp was so overprepared we could have basically just restocked on 
water and gone off to that thing in the desert for two weeks. My 
impression of Prineville was that it was about the size of Mitchell, 
with maybe a small grocery, a gas station etc. rather than a good sized 
town with several decent restaurants, full sized grocery stores etc.
I went into the eclipse with the understanding that no matter how good 
of photos I took, I could not take as good of photos as someone with 
better gear, up to and including the hubble.
There was a lot of preparation I meant to do, but didn't get around to 
because I was dealing with other things, and not having done that caused 
me to miss parts of the experience, but even 70% of the experience is 
still life changing.

I made some crucial mistakes with my photography.
1) I should have had everything set up completely automatically so that 
once the eclipse started, I could just push a button and have things go, 
leaving me free to pay more attention to the world around me.
2) I didn't make sure that my sensors were clean and there was a huge 
dust spot on the camera I set up to shoot the sun.
3) I used the same camera for shooting the partial phase and the 
complete phase. Not taking the solar filter off soon enough and putting 
it back on too soon caused me to miss crucial shots.
4) I didn't set up a better equatorial mount system, even if it was just 
a "barn door" with a manually cranked bolt. As such, I also didn't have 
as good of tripod heads as I should have.
5) I didn't bracket my shots of the eclipse itself. I actually just left 
the exposure the same as it was with the solar filter which got me some 
nice details, but missed a lot of the corona.
6) I worried too much about the partial phase of the eclipse, and while 
those photos are cool in some ways, they just don't compare to totality, 
and sucked a bunch of energy that could have been better spent on other 
things.
7) It didn't register just how dark things get just before the eclipse, 
and I should have had a faster lens on the camera I was trying to shoot 
my surroundings with.
I have learned from my experience and sincerely hope to have the chance 
to put what I've learned to use when seeing more eclipses in the future.



One of the hazards for an eclipse that I was long aware of is clouds. 
Despite the coast being incredibly convenient (since I have places to 
stay there), I figured that the probability of skies not only being 
clear at 1020, but staying clear as the shadow cools the humid air, to 
be fairly remote. A few months ago I met someone involved with an 
intentional community, which turned out to be southeast of Bend and 
Madras (Eagle's Rest Ranch you can find the public group, and see some 
of my photos). I was able to secure four nights there for a reasonable 
cost. Our trip up Friday didn't run into too much traffic, but the fire 
outside of Sisters oregon was rather worrisome (though I did get some 
cool photos at Roberts field). The campsite was about equidistant 
between Madras and Mitchell, both pretty much on center of the path of 
totality. Saturday we went on a recon run out to Mitchell, and scoped 
out several locations. This was one of the best decisions I ma

Re: GESO: Different Moons

[Larry Colen]

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

These two rather crude images where taken at the same location in New
Jersey within a few minutes of each other:

https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/8/24/different-moons

Someone asked me why the crescents are reversed.  Can you deduce the reason
they are so different?


For the same reason that the moon is black in both of them.



Dan Matyola
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September PUG - Count Down

[Brian Walters]

G'day all

Time's getting away

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Nom. closing date 31 August.

Cheers

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GESO: Different Moons

[Daniel J. Matyola]

These two rather crude images where taken at the same location in New
Jersey within a few minutes of each other:

https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/8/24/different-moons

Someone asked me why the crescents are reversed.  Can you deduce the reason
they are so different?

Dan Matyola
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Re: OT: Water your wiskey

[Bob W-PDML]

Jeez, Mike, I thought you knew everything there is to know about biology. I'm 
disappointed in you. There are no unicorn stallions - it's all done through 
parthenogenesis and twinkle dust.

> 
>> On 8/24/2017 00:08, mike wilson wrote:
>> What's wrong with stallion water?
>> 
>>> On 23 August 2017 at 19:32 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have mine distilled from the pee of unicorn fillies, filtered through
>>> freshly-crushed diamond powder.
>>> 
 On 23 Aug 2017, at 18:07, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
 
 That's one of several reasons that I recommend freshly filtered tap water
 for coffee and for whisky.
 

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Re: PESO: Eclipse

[Daniel J. Matyola]

WOW, just WOW.

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On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 4:22 PM, John  wrote:

> Totality seen from Hopkinsville, KY
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/36735354476
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Re: Water your wiskey

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Still a good idea to filter it, for the chlorine and any contaminants.


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On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 4:38 PM, John  wrote:

> All copper here, brazed with lead free solder.
>
> On 8/23/2017 13:58, Alan C wrote:
>
>> Hope you don't have any lead pipes. Common in older houses.
>>
>> Alan C
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 7:05 PM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: OT: Water your wiskey
>>
>> That's one of several reasons that I recommend freshly filtered tap water
>> for coffee and for whisky.
>>
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Darren Addy 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Just one other thought regarding water and how it effects the taste of
>>> what it is used with/in:
>>>
>>> "Distilled water, as virtually all bottled water, is stored in cheap
>>> plastic containers. Some have been known to leach methyl chloride, a
>>> carcinogen, into the water and also gives off plastic tastes and
>>> odors. Water has been called the universal solvent, whatever it
>>> touches it will pick up. Distilled water being virtually 100%
>>> contaminant free might leach plastic tastes into the water from the
>>> inferior bottle it’s being stored in. Besides glass, consider buying
>>> bottles made from Lexan that won’t give off any plastic tastes or
>>> odors."
>>>
>>> - source: http://www.durastill.com/myths.html
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Re: OT: Water your wiskey

[John]

Most of it gets used up brewing beer.

On 8/24/2017 00:08, mike wilson wrote:

What's wrong with stallion water?


On 23 August 2017 at 19:32 Bob W-PDML  wrote:


I have mine distilled from the pee of unicorn fillies, filtered through
freshly-crushed diamond powder.


On 23 Aug 2017, at 18:07, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

That's one of several reasons that I recommend freshly filtered tap water
for coffee and for whisky.


Dan Matyola
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On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Darren Addy 
wrote:

Just one other thought regarding water and how it effects the taste of
what it is used with/in:

"Distilled water, as virtually all bottled water, is stored in cheap
plastic containers. Some have been known to leach methyl chloride, a
carcinogen, into the water and also gives off plastic tastes and
odors. Water has been called the universal solvent, whatever it
touches it will pick up. Distilled water being virtually 100%
contaminant free might leach plastic tastes into the water from the
inferior bottle it’s being stored in. Besides glass, consider buying
bottles made from Lexan that won’t give off any plastic tastes or
odors."

- source: http://www.durastill.com/myths.html




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Re: Water your wiskey

[John]

All copper here, brazed with lead free solder.

On 8/23/2017 13:58, Alan C wrote:

Hope you don't have any lead pipes. Common in older houses.

Alan C

-Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 7:05 PM
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That's one of several reasons that I recommend freshly filtered tap water
for coffee and for whisky.


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On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Darren Addy 
wrote:


Just one other thought regarding water and how it effects the taste of
what it is used with/in:

"Distilled water, as virtually all bottled water, is stored in cheap
plastic containers. Some have been known to leach methyl chloride, a
carcinogen, into the water and also gives off plastic tastes and
odors. Water has been called the universal solvent, whatever it
touches it will pick up. Distilled water being virtually 100%
contaminant free might leach plastic tastes into the water from the
inferior bottle it’s being stored in. Besides glass, consider buying
bottles made from Lexan that won’t give off any plastic tastes or
odors."

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Re: OT - Stefan Shooting Edinburgh

[John]

On 8/23/2017 12:44, Steve Cottrell wrote:

Apparently I'm not allowed to post this in Facebook! But he didn't
say anything about me posting it on my web site and telling the PDML
;-)

Stefan's first solo job with Associated Press and he gets whisked off
to Edinburgh for the Festival and 2 days filming there with a
reporter for a middle eastern TV channel.

Just a pic from a proud dad. He's certainly grown a bit since his
visit to GFM





Pretty cool.


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PESO: Eclipse

[John]

Totality seen from Hopkinsville, KY

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/36735354476

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Re: Peso-Blue Herronll

[Jack Davis]

Appreciated, Dan. Thanks!

J

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> On Aug 23, 2017, at 9:48 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
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> Very nice;  I love the curve of the neck
> 
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>> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Circled Gray Lodge CA State Wildlife Area this AM.
>> Like to check the season conditioning happening.
>> Appears it's expecting winged company again this Fall.
>> Just starting to flood. It all stimulated my interest,
>> as though I needed it.
>> Attaching a shot of the popular Blue Heron. Yes, I know
>> you've all seen them before, but it was the only denizen
>> I saw.
>> 
>> You know the set up.
>> 
>> C&C?
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18416527
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