PESO: red-whiskered bulbul

[Subash Jeyan]

had gone to a shrub forest outside the city for birding with the son
and this is the only photo which turned out ok...a red-whiskered bulbul:

https://500px.com/photo/252693917/red-whiskered-bulbul-by-subash-jeyan

k5iis + DAL 55-300

~subash

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Re: April PUG, "Night", is up

[ann sanfedele]

 the one in this months PUG is on the north east corner of 7th and 
first...   but I think you told me you went to the one, on the south 
west corner and that
I have frequently photo'ed (kitty corner to the PUG one) ...which is 
surviving, thank goodness...


https://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Calendars-in-Print/Ill-take-Manhattan-Wall/i-pLJ83nG/A

It's the across the street from me.. , and in on eof the PDML annuals

ann


On 4/7/2018 7:57 PM, John Coyle wrote:

Hi Ann - is that the one on 1st. Avenue, coming down from 14th to 7th?  I think 
Jan and I shopped
there more than once. Always sad to see small enterprises fold, especially when 
the produce is good.


John in Brisbane


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From: PDML  On Behalf Of ann sanfedele
Sent: Sunday, 8 April 2018 12:23 AM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: April PUG, "Night", is up

Thanks much Bob and Dan..   I don't do much night shooting.. this was really 
luck - I hardly ever
use a flash..
I did wnat to use one I don't think I'd shown the list before.

Sadly, that good old neighborhood corner food market (whcih kitty-corner from 
the one you all have
seenmore than once ) is another neighborhood fatality - shut down from what 
probably was a rent
increase it couldn't cope with.. gone a few months ago.

Yeah, a nice little gallery -
- but missing entrants from a couple of guys whose night photography is 
terrific so where was Raif ?
where wasLarry?

I like Don's safe haven most, I think, but only by a hair.

ann

On 4/7/2018 3:30 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

Nice - that could almost be a Leonard Cohen line :0) I hope Mark! Is paying 
attention.

Ann's great shot is not getting the attention it deserves.


On 7 Apr 2018, at 01:22, Rob Studdert  wrote:

Thanks Brian,

A great little gallery. Pentax gear excels at sucking the light out of night.

Cheers,



On 6 April 2018 at 20:26, Brian Walters  wrote:
G'day all,

A small gallery this month but some fine contributions.  Rob's
"Reflections of Vivid" at Sydney's Darling Harbour is the standout
for me with Jan's "Sunset Reflections" and Jostein's "November
Night" also very appealing.  A great gallery!

View here:

http://pug.komkon.org/




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RE: April PUG, "Night", is up

[John Coyle]

Hi Ann - is that the one on 1st. Avenue, coming down from 14th to 7th?  I think 
Jan and I shopped
there more than once. Always sad to see small enterprises fold, especially when 
the produce is good.


John in Brisbane


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Sent: Sunday, 8 April 2018 12:23 AM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: April PUG, "Night", is up

Thanks much Bob and Dan..   I don't do much night shooting.. this was really 
luck - I hardly ever
use a flash..
I did wnat to use one I don't think I'd shown the list before.

Sadly, that good old neighborhood corner food market (whcih kitty-corner from 
the one you all have
seenmore than once ) is another neighborhood fatality - shut down from what 
probably was a rent
increase it couldn't cope with.. gone a few months ago.

Yeah, a nice little gallery -
- but missing entrants from a couple of guys whose night photography is 
terrific so where was Raif ?
where wasLarry?

I like Don's safe haven most, I think, but only by a hair.

ann

On 4/7/2018 3:30 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
> Nice - that could almost be a Leonard Cohen line :0) I hope Mark! Is paying 
> attention.
>
> Ann's great shot is not getting the attention it deserves.
>
>> On 7 Apr 2018, at 01:22, Rob Studdert  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Brian,
>>
>> A great little gallery. Pentax gear excels at sucking the light out of night.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>> On 6 April 2018 at 20:26, Brian Walters  wrote:
>>> G'day all,
>>>
>>> A small gallery this month but some fine contributions.  Rob's 
>>> "Reflections of Vivid" at Sydney's Darling Harbour is the standout 
>>> for me with Jan's "Sunset Reflections" and Jostein's "November 
>>> Night" also very appealing.  A great gallery!
>>>
>>> View here:
>>>
>>> http://pug.komkon.org/
>>>
>>>


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Re: April PUG, "Night", is up

[Rob Studdert]

That's basically what I do, my pano rig is now optimised for use with
the HD35, I'm then not limited if the vista is relatively static. The
28-45 is too long for my pano rig, I don't have enough adjustment in
it to find the lenses nodal point.

On 8 April 2018 at 00:07, Jostein  wrote:
>
>
> Den 07.04.2018 15:06, skrev Rob Studdert:
>>
>> The 28-45 zoom is fantastic optically and the SR is quite impressive
>> but it's a honking big and heavy lens so it does often get left home
>> when I could most use it.
>
>
> My thoughts too. The bulk/weight is the only thing I can criticise.
>
>> I have used it for some weddings and local
>> landscape work but for travel economy of size and weight dictates the
>> HD35 as my preference.
>
>
> My next widest lens is an FA 35/2.8, but fills the same niche. In a pinch, I
> snap a few frames and throw them at Autopano.
>
>
> Jostein
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Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend

[John]

Brain malfunction.

I had an early doctors appointment on Monday & scrambling around to get ready so 
I'd get there on time, I completely forgot about Grandfather Mountain Nature 
Photography Weekend's registration opening up on Monday 02 April.


Had an "Oh Shit!" moment just now when I finally remembered it.

Fortunately for me, it hadn't sold out yet, so I was still able to register.

Hope I'll see other PDMLers there.

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From the archives

[Mark Roberts]

"If the answer involves Ken Rockwell, you're asking the wrong
question."
- Doug Franklin
 
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Re: PESO 2018 - 022, 023 - GDG

[Bob W-PDML]

> On 7 Apr 2018, at 05:38, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> I like the film! Gotta catch the full production. I was at the bike shop 
> today and found a couple of jerseys that actually fit me—It's so damn rare! 
> Even after I've lost a ton of weight and reach my early post-college weight, 
> I'm still going to be a six foot, 220 lb, post-middle-age guy … All the 
> cycling gear seems to be targeted at wealthy 20-somethings with 28 inch 
> waists. Sheesh—I bought both on the spot. I have a set of shorts that might 
> fit on the way too. 
> 

The clip was quite funny showing the guy squeezing his belly in. I wear lycra 
and I recognise that activity... There's no fool like an old fool, but one of 
the joys of getting old is you stop giving a shit. A bunch of old guys having 
some fun and keeping fit(-ish...). Nothing wrong with that.

The French have a verb 'boudiner' which I always think of when I'm climbing 
into my lycra. It means to squeeze yourself into clothes that are too tight, 
and comes from 'boudin', which is a type of sausage...

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Re: Sounds like Pentax/Ricoh's resources are spread pretty thin...

[John]

The impression I got when the K-1 Mark ii was announced was that the 
improvements were driven (in part) by customer feedback and that feedback was 
also the reason for the "upgrade" being available for existing K-1's


On 4/7/2018 11:00, Alex Sarbu wrote:

I see, thank you for the clarification. However, I disagree with your
interpretation; it can't possibly mean that. We have paragraphs like: "We
have lots of requests for lenses, especially from K-1 users. They want more
lenses that match the higher resolution of the K-1, so that’s one objective
which we would like to implement.", or "This form factor is iconic for the
Theta. We think it’s important. On the other hand, if there is demand, we
would like flexibly to think about any other possibilities, even for other
form factors." telling the complete opposite.

Actually I'm not sure what he meant... but let's not forget, he's a Japanese
speaking in a foreign language. Maybe they decided on the upgrade because of
the feedback? Maybe people are offering feedback on the upgrade? But it can't
be not incorporating our feedback into new products... the K-1 itself was
made because we demanded it.

OTOH... people's demands are all over the place, often mutually exclusive.
Listening doesn't mean meeting all our requests.

Alex

On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 10:35 AM, mike wilson 
wrote:

"Feedback, especially from K-1 owners, is more focused on the upgrade
services."

I see that as saying that feedback is used primarily to upgrade existing
models, not on new model direction.



On 07 April 2018 at 08:26 Alex Sarbu  wrote:


Interesting statement; as I'm seeing several times in the interview that
owner feedback is very important to them. But I don't see anywhere the
statement you're talking about.

Alex

On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 9:57 AM, mike wilson 
wrote:

On 06 April 2018 at 21:13 Gonz  wrote:


https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/3329510590/ricoh-interview-the-development-of-the-k-series-is-our-first-priority




 > Interesting statement that owner feedback has little (at best) effect on 
> new model develpoment.  That will hit some other forums right in the ego 
> feels.









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Re: Sounds like Pentax/Ricoh's resources are spread pretty thin...

[Bill]

On 4/7/2018 10:12 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Since they have limited resources, should we expect Limited lenses?
;-)


It looks like Limited, in the case of full frame, means practically non 
existent.


bill

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Re: Sounds like Pentax/Ricoh's resources are spread pretty thin...

[Bill]

On 4/7/2018 12:57 AM, mike wilson wrote:

On 06 April 2018 at 21:13 Gonz  wrote:


https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/3329510590/ricoh-interview-the-development-of-the-k-series-is-our-first-priority



Interesting statement that owner feedback has little (at best) effect on new 
model develpoment.  That will hit some other forums right in the ego feels.



Forums Neurotica has long thought that they were more important than 
they are.


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Re: Sounds like Pentax/Ricoh's resources are spread pretty thin...

[Igor PDML-StR]

Since they have limited resources, should we expect Limited lenses?
;-)

Igor


Paul Stenquist Fri, 06 Apr 2018 13:58:29 -0700 wrote:

They certainly don’t have unlimited resources but I’m pleased to hear they 
will concentrate on full frame lenses.



Paul


On Apr 6, 2018, at 4:36 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:



Gonz wrote:

https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/3329510590/ricoh-interview-the-development-of-the-k-series-is-our-first-priority


I love articles that start out with a great pun:

They want more lenses that match the higher resolution of the K-1, so that’s
one objective which we would like to implement.



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Re: Sounds like Pentax/Ricoh's resources are spread pretty thin...

[Alex Sarbu]

I see, thank you for the clarification.
However, I disagree with your interpretation; it can't possibly mean
that. We have paragraphs like:
"We have lots of requests for lenses, especially from K-1 users. They
want more lenses that match the higher resolution of the K-1, so
that’s one objective which we would like to implement.", or
"This form factor is iconic for the Theta. We think it’s important. On
the other hand, if there is demand, we would like flexibly to think
about any other possibilities, even for other form factors."
telling the complete opposite.

Actually I'm not sure what he meant... but let's not forget, he's a
Japanese speaking in a foreign language. Maybe they decided on the
upgrade because of the feedback? Maybe people are offering feedback on
the upgrade?
But it can't be not incorporating our feedback into new products...
the K-1 itself was made because we demanded it.

OTOH... people's demands are all over the place, often mutually
exclusive. Listening doesn't mean meeting all our requests.

Alex

On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 10:35 AM, mike wilson  wrote:
> "Feedback, especially from K-1 owners, is more focused on the upgrade 
> services."
>
> I see that as saying that feedback is used primarily to upgrade existing 
> models, not on new model direction.
>
>
>> On 07 April 2018 at 08:26 Alex Sarbu  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Interesting statement; as I'm seeing several times in the interview
>> that owner feedback is very important to them. But I don't see
>> anywhere the statement you're talking about.
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 9:57 AM, mike wilson  wrote:
>> >> On 06 April 2018 at 21:13 Gonz  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/3329510590/ricoh-interview-the-development-of-the-k-series-is-our-first-priority
>> >>
>> >
>> > Interesting statement that owner feedback has little (at best) effect on 
>> > new model develpoment.  That will hit some other forums right in the ego 
>> > feels.
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Re: April PUG, "Night", is up

[ann sanfedele]

Thanks much Bob and Dan..   I don't do much night shooting.. this was 
really luck - I hardly ever use a flash..

I did wnat to use one I don't think I'd shown the list before.

Sadly, that good old neighborhood corner food market (whcih kitty-corner 
from the one you all have seenmore than once ) is another
neighborhood fatality - shut down from what probably was a rent increase 
it couldn't cope with.. gone a few months ago.


Yeah, a nice little gallery -
- but missing entrants from a couple of guys whose night photography is 
terrific so where was Raif ? where wasLarry?


I like Don's safe haven most, I think, but only by a hair.

ann

On 4/7/2018 3:30 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

Nice - that could almost be a Leonard Cohen line :0) I hope Mark! Is paying 
attention.

Ann's great shot is not getting the attention it deserves.


On 7 Apr 2018, at 01:22, Rob Studdert  wrote:

Thanks Brian,

A great little gallery. Pentax gear excels at sucking the light out of night.

Cheers,



On 6 April 2018 at 20:26, Brian Walters  wrote:
G'day all,

A small gallery this month but some fine contributions.  Rob's "Reflections of
Vivid" at Sydney's Darling Harbour is the standout for me with Jan's "Sunset
Reflections" and Jostein's "November Night" also very appealing.  A great
gallery!

View here:

http://pug.komkon.org/





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Re: April PUG, "Night", is up

[Jostein]

Den 07.04.2018 15:06, skrev Rob Studdert:

The 28-45 zoom is fantastic optically and the SR is quite impressive
but it's a honking big and heavy lens so it does often get left home
when I could most use it. 


My thoughts too. The bulk/weight is the only thing I can criticise.


I have used it for some weddings and local
landscape work but for travel economy of size and weight dictates the
HD35 as my preference.


My next widest lens is an FA 35/2.8, but fills the same niche. In a 
pinch, I snap a few frames and throw them at Autopano.


Jostein

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Repair Service?

[Jack Davis]

Anyone!

Is there a recommended camera repair service for the PDML?

My current, recently received, K3 replacement has a  lazy, weak, erratic ("H") 
shutter  burst rate.

Haven't decided, for certain, if I will submit it for repair, but it is being 
considered. This is the second

replacement since my "trusty" old K3 completely died this spring.


Thanks!


J





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Re: April PUG, "Night", is up

[Rob Studdert]

The 28-45 zoom is fantastic optically and the SR is quite impressive
but it's a honking big and heavy lens so it does often get left home
when I could most use it. I have used it for some weddings and local
landscape work but for travel economy of size and weight dictates the
HD35 as my preference.



On 7 April 2018 at 22:37, Jostein  wrote:
>
>
> Den 07.04.2018 02:21, skrev Rob Studdert:
>>
>> A great little gallery. Pentax gear excels at sucking the light out of
>> night.
>
>
> 
>
> Notice you too use the 28-45 zoom. What do you think of it?
>
> Jostein
>
>
>
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Re: April PUG, "Night", is up

[Jostein]

Den 07.04.2018 02:21, skrev Rob Studdert:

A great little gallery. Pentax gear excels at sucking the light out of night.




Notice you too use the 28-45 zoom. What do you think of it?

Jostein




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PESO: Cheapi Toyus

[David Mann]

We found another strange specimen at the museum this week.  This one is in a 
drawer of sea life specimens.  Please excuse the poor quality, it's under glass 
(or plastic) and it was difficult to avoid glare from the lights.

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1060/#peso

"Where everyone gets a bargin [sic]" is a reference to The Warehouse, a local 
retailer of cheap crap.

Cheers,
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Re: April PUG, "Night", is up

[Steve Cottrell]

On 6/4/18, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:

>View here:
>
>http://pug.komkon.org/

Small but perfectly formed gallery.

Really enjoyed them and puts me to shame! Photographic lull at the moment.



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Re: Sounds like Pentax/Ricoh's resources are spread pretty thin...

[mike wilson]

"Feedback, especially from K-1 owners, is more focused on the upgrade services."

I see that as saying that feedback is used primarily to upgrade existing 
models, not on new model direction.


> On 07 April 2018 at 08:26 Alex Sarbu  wrote:
> 
> 
> Interesting statement; as I'm seeing several times in the interview
> that owner feedback is very important to them. But I don't see
> anywhere the statement you're talking about.
> 
> Alex
> 
> On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 9:57 AM, mike wilson  wrote:
> >> On 06 April 2018 at 21:13 Gonz  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/3329510590/ricoh-interview-the-development-of-the-k-series-is-our-first-priority
> >>
> >
> > Interesting statement that owner feedback has little (at best) effect on 
> > new model develpoment.  That will hit some other forums right in the ego 
> > feels.

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Re: April PUG, "Night", is up

[Bob W-PDML]

Nice - that could almost be a Leonard Cohen line :0) I hope Mark! Is paying 
attention.

Ann's great shot is not getting the attention it deserves.

> On 7 Apr 2018, at 01:22, Rob Studdert  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Brian,
> 
> A great little gallery. Pentax gear excels at sucking the light out of night.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
>> On 6 April 2018 at 20:26, Brian Walters  wrote:
>> G'day all,
>> 
>> A small gallery this month but some fine contributions.  Rob's "Reflections 
>> of
>> Vivid" at Sydney's Darling Harbour is the standout for me with Jan's "Sunset
>> Reflections" and Jostein's "November Night" also very appealing.  A great
>> gallery!
>> 
>> View here:
>> 
>> http://pug.komkon.org/
>> 
>> 

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Re: Sounds like Pentax/Ricoh's resources are spread pretty thin...

[Alex Sarbu]

Interesting statement; as I'm seeing several times in the interview
that owner feedback is very important to them. But I don't see
anywhere the statement you're talking about.

Alex

On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 9:57 AM, mike wilson  wrote:
>> On 06 April 2018 at 21:13 Gonz  wrote:
>>
>>
>> https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/3329510590/ricoh-interview-the-development-of-the-k-series-is-our-first-priority
>>
>
> Interesting statement that owner feedback has little (at best) effect on new 
> model develpoment.  That will hit some other forums right in the ego feels.
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Re: Sounds like Pentax/Ricoh's resources are spread pretty thin...

[mike wilson]

> On 06 April 2018 at 21:13 Gonz  wrote:
> 
> 
> https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/3329510590/ricoh-interview-the-development-of-the-k-series-is-our-first-priority
> 

Interesting statement that owner feedback has little (at best) effect on new 
model develpoment.  That will hit some other forums right in the ego feels.

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Re: Sounds like Pentax/Ricoh's resources are spread pretty thin...

[Henk Terhell]

Wheras I still have the primes of 28, 35 and 50 from the fim era I very 
much like to have a ff 20 mm prime at an affordable price.
There is such a great gap in ff wide angle range compared to what is 
available for the APS-C DA lenses.


Henk

Op 2018-04-06 om 22:57 schreef Paul Stenquist:

They certainly don’t have unlimited resources but I’m pleased to hear they will 
concentrate on full frame lenses.

Paul


On Apr 6, 2018, at 4:36 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:



Gonz wrote:

https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/3329510590/ricoh-interview-the-development-of-the-k-series-is-our-first-priority

I love articles that start out with a great pun:

They want more lenses that match the higher resolution of the K-1, so that’s 
one objective which we would like to implement.





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