Re: portrait photography

2018-04-10 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Nice story!
I can feel how fulfilling it was for the photographer to hear that 
reaction.

Personally, I consider doing that type of photo job as a big challenge.


The story brought up from the memory the situation I experienced several 
years ago:
As many people here probably know, I've been photographing dancers for 
many years. Occasionally, I had people asking me not to photograph them.
In most such cases, you wouldn't see any "obvious" concerns about how they 
looked (you know, the usual social stereotypes of bad looks: 6 arms, 40 
legs, 7 eyes, bad hair, ... ). But I respect those requests. And they are 
usually done in a very polite way.



Once, at a relatively small outdoors dance party, about 8 years ago,
I had a very unusual situation.
I was taking photographs of the dancers (being just outside the perimeter 
of the dance floor). At some point two dancers were dancing together, 
and that couple that was both dancing well, and looking well (and being 
quite "photogenic" even outside of the dance floor).
So, during the song sequence that they danced together, I was 
photographing them a bit more than others. Very suddenly in the middle of
a song (which is a rather rare case altogether in the social dance 
culture and especially in the dance community in question), the 
women stopped dancing, turned to me, and asked to stop photographing in a 
rather strong voice. And then she went back and resumed dancing. I was 
surprised by such a reaction, but honored that request. I saw that a few 
other dancers were also puzzled by such an abrupt reaction. (It was 
one of the "home" dance communities for us, - so quite a few dancers in 
that community knew me.)



A week later, I posted the gallery of photos from that dance party online, 
to my photography web site. While preparing it, I was debating with myself 
if I should include the photos of that dancer (and especially with that 
partner) that I had taken prior to the request.
I was still feeling very puzzled if not shocked by the somewhat rude way 
of expressing that preference. Besides, the request was not about not 
using the photos but not taking them anymore, and it came close to the 
end of the dance party, not in the beginning. After long internal 
deliberations, I decided to include those photos.


Soon after, I received a surprising e-mail from that dancer, apologizing
for her reaction, and asking how she can buy multiple prints for 4 photos. 
At some point, she was even considering an enlargement of 
one photo (to a large size, above 8"x12", IIRC).


She wrote:
"It's ironic because I'm the one who snapped at you for taking my 
picture.  Sorry about that.  Typically I absolutely hate having my picture 
taken.  But I had no idea these would turn out so beautiful- esp. the 
black and white one."


(In my personal opinion, the photos were not special, - just my 
usual photos from dance events, except for the black-and-white, which

was indeed a very interesting and rather unusual one.)


And then, in person, at the next dance party in that community, we
chatted, and she said: "In the future, please feel free to take photos of 
me dancing."
It was very pleasant to hear that despite the initial strong 
negative reaction, that woman enjoyed my photos of her.



Cheers,

Igor

Gonz Tue, 10 Apr 2018 10:38:33 -0700 wrote:

Nice positive article, a nice break from so much "Instagram" stuff..


https://petapixel.com/2018/04/10/a-message-to-portrait-photographers/



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Re: Sounds like Pentax/Ricoh's resources are spread pretty thin...

2018-04-10 Thread Bill

On 4/10/2018 6:39 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

Mine is up on eBay at the moment (reluctantly), it's a gorgeous lens,
better than the FA* version but its AF sucks and I need AF these days
so it's more a lovely curio for me. Given its status as a collectors
piece and the condition of my copy I've put a premium on it, if I get
no bites I get to keep it.


That's a couple of hundred more than I paid for mine 10 years or so ago, 
but yours has the original box and case. I just have the lens.


Good luck selling it. I suspect the new one will cost about what you are 
asking.


bill

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Re: Sounds like Pentax/Ricoh's resources are spread pretty thin...

2018-04-10 Thread Bill

On 4/10/2018 5:54 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

The A* 85/1.4 is a collectible. You could probably sell it for more than the 
new 85 will cost. Of course I’m not sure I’d be willing to part with it.


I guarantee you I'm not.

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Re: Repair Service?

2018-04-10 Thread Jack Davis
No! But I was told by Precision today
that they DO NOT!
J
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 10, 2018, at 3:35 PM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:
> 
> Jack -
> 
> I have a K-5 that needs some work.  Did they tell you who is currently 
> repairing Pentax cameras?
> 
> -p
> 
> 
>> On 4/10/2018 2:17 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> In spite of your rant, PJ, I called
>> Precision Camera for help. I may
>> have been lucky, as I was told they
>> no longer repair Pentax cameras.
>> J
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 10, 2018, at 12:27 AM, P. J. Alling  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Much as I hate to say this, for a digital body, only Pentax' official 
>>> repair service is likely to be good enough, and yet I hate Precision Camera 
>>> Repair with the heat of a thousand blazing suns.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 4/7/2018 9:49 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
 Anyone!
 
 Is there a recommended camera repair service for the PDML?
 
 My current, recently received, K3 replacement has a  lazy, weak, erratic 
 ("H") shutter  burst rate.
 
 Haven't decided, for certain, if I will submit it for repair, but it is 
 being considered. This is the second
 
 replacement since my "trusty" old K3 completely died this spring.
 
 
 Thanks!
 
 
 J
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Re: Sounds like Pentax/Ricoh's resources are spread pretty thin...

2018-04-10 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 07:30:04PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> I want the 85/1.4. Bigly.
> 
> Paul

I must admit I'm kind of interested in this, but probably not enough
to pay the kind of money it's likely to sell for.  And, realistically,
I'd be unlikely to use it anywhere near enough to warrant buying it.

The most promising thing, for me, in the Ricoh interview is that they
do still seem to be planning a future high-end APS-C model. I would
probably buy that, although it will almost certainly be the last DSLR
I'll ever buy.  My K-5 still works just fine for most of what I do,
but one last sensor and AF upgrade would probably tempt me enough.

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Re: Sounds like Pentax/Ricoh's resources are spread pretty thin...

2018-04-10 Thread Rob Studdert
Mine is up on eBay at the moment (reluctantly), it's a gorgeous lens,
better than the FA* version but its AF sucks and I need AF these days
so it's more a lovely curio for me. Given its status as a collectors
piece and the condition of my copy I've put a premium on it, if I get
no bites I get to keep it.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/123060327807?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649


On 11 April 2018 at 09:54, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> The A* 85/1.4 is a collectible. You could probably sell it for more than the 
> new 85 will cost. Of course I’m not sure I’d be willing to part with it.
>
> Paul
>
>> On Apr 10, 2018, at 7:41 PM, Bill  wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/10/2018 5:30 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>> I want the 85/1.4. Big time.
>> I would to, but I'm not shooting enough portraiture anymore to justify it, 
>> and am not making enough money these days to be able to buy it without 
>> justifying it.
>> Also, I have an A*85/1.4, which seems to be a decent enough lens.
>> I might break down and buy the 70-200/4 if it's halfway affordable.
>>
>> bill
>>
>> Oh, I fixed your post for you.
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Re: Sounds like Pentax/Ricoh's resources are spread pretty thin...

2018-04-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
The A* 85/1.4 is a collectible. You could probably sell it for more than the 
new 85 will cost. Of course I’m not sure I’d be willing to part with it.

Paul

> On Apr 10, 2018, at 7:41 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
>> On 4/10/2018 5:30 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> I want the 85/1.4. Big time.
> I would to, but I'm not shooting enough portraiture anymore to justify it, 
> and am not making enough money these days to be able to buy it without 
> justifying it.
> Also, I have an A*85/1.4, which seems to be a decent enough lens.
> I might break down and buy the 70-200/4 if it's halfway affordable.
> 
> bill
> 
> Oh, I fixed your post for you.
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Re: Sounds like Pentax/Ricoh's resources are spread pretty thin...

2018-04-10 Thread Bill

On 4/10/2018 5:30 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I want the 85/1.4. Big time.

I would to, but I'm not shooting enough portraiture anymore to justify 
it, and am not making enough money these days to be able to buy it 
without justifying it.

Also, I have an A*85/1.4, which seems to be a decent enough lens.
I might break down and buy the 70-200/4 if it's halfway affordable.

bill

Oh, I fixed your post for you.

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Re: Sounds like Pentax/Ricoh's resources are spread pretty thin...

2018-04-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
I want the 85/1.4. Bigly.

Paul

> On Apr 10, 2018, at 6:58 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
>> On 4/9/2018 7:30 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> Thanks. Much better.
> 
> Note that they are only committing (kind of) to the 85/1.4 and 70-200/4 next 
> year. Everything else, you can be pretty sure will be in the "later" column.
> 
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Re: April PUG, "Night", is up

2018-04-10 Thread ann sanfedele

thanks much, Bulent

ann

On 4/10/2018 4:06 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote:

A beautiful gallery overall.

My favorite is Ann's lovely image...

Jostein's image, of opposite mood, also keeps me looking at it...

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2018-04-06 13:26 GMT+03:00 Brian Walters :

G'day all,

A small gallery this month but some fine contributions.  Rob's "Reflections of
Vivid" at Sydney's Darling Harbour is the standout for me with Jan's "Sunset
Reflections" and Jostein's "November Night" also very appealing.  A great
gallery!

View here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery,
let me know.

+

Next up: 'On the Streets'.

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You can submit here:

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Cheers
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Re: Sounds like Pentax/Ricoh's resources are spread pretty thin...

2018-04-10 Thread Bill

On 4/9/2018 7:30 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Thanks. Much better.



Note that they are only committing (kind of) to the 85/1.4 and 70-200/4 
next year. Everything else, you can be pretty sure will be in the 
"later" column.


bill

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Re: portrait photography

2018-04-10 Thread Bill

On 4/10/2018 11:37 AM, Gonz wrote:

Nice positive article, a nice break from so much "Instagram" stuff..

https://petapixel.com/2018/04/10/a-message-to-portrait-photographers/



That was why I shot portraits for 4+ decades.

bill

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Re: Repair Service?

2018-04-10 Thread Larry Colen



Paul Sorenson wrote:

Jack -

I have a K-5 that needs some work.  Did they tell you who is currently
repairing Pentax cameras?


Interesting, I just went to their site and they don't  make any mention 
of not repairing pentax


http://www.precisioncamera.com/ricoh/

https://www.precisioncamera.com/onecart-Ricoh.php



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Re: Repair Service?

2018-04-10 Thread Paul Sorenson

Jack -

I have a K-5 that needs some work.  Did they tell you who is currently 
repairing Pentax cameras?


-p


On 4/10/2018 2:17 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

In spite of your rant, PJ, I called
Precision Camera for help. I may
have been lucky, as I was told they
no longer repair Pentax cameras.
J
Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 10, 2018, at 12:27 AM, P. J. Alling  wrote:

Much as I hate to say this, for a digital body, only Pentax' official repair 
service is likely to be good enough, and yet I hate Precision Camera Repair 
with the heat of a thousand blazing suns.



On 4/7/2018 9:49 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
Anyone!

Is there a recommended camera repair service for the PDML?

My current, recently received, K3 replacement has a  lazy, weak, erratic ("H") 
shutter  burst rate.

Haven't decided, for certain, if I will submit it for repair, but it is being 
considered. This is the second

replacement since my "trusty" old K3 completely died this spring.


Thanks!


J

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Re: Galloway update

2018-04-10 Thread Steve Cottrell
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PESO 2018 - 026 - GDG

2018-04-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I was setting the table as dawn was bursting onto the scene this morning. As I 
turned to look out the patio door, I saw the sky as the sun was just getting 
over Mount Hamilton to the southeast. Ran into my office, grabbed the Light 
L16, set it to 70mm, opened the patio door and screen, and nabbed this shot: 

  https://flic.kr/p/23h3gEY

Full resolution image: 
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/799/27501362828_65c5896c5f_o.jpg

Damn, the sky was beautiful! 

The full rez image is exactly what Light's Lumen image processing app outputted 
as a full resolution JPEG, 8896x6672 pixels (60Mpixel), all settings at the 
defaults. No adjustments at all… 

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Re: April PUG, "Night", is up

2018-04-10 Thread Bulent Celasun
A beautiful gallery overall.

My favorite is Ann's lovely image...

Jostein's image, of opposite mood, also keeps me looking at it...

Bulent
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2018-04-06 13:26 GMT+03:00 Brian Walters :
> G'day all,
>
> A small gallery this month but some fine contributions.  Rob's "Reflections of
> Vivid" at Sydney's Darling Harbour is the standout for me with Jan's "Sunset
> Reflections" and Jostein's "November Night" also very appealing.  A great
> gallery!
>
> View here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/
>
> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there).
>
> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
> infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery,
> let me know.
>
> +
>
> Next up: 'On the Streets'.
>
> Full Submissions Guidelines here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
>
> You can submit here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
>
> Cheers
> Brian
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
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Re: Repair Service?

2018-04-10 Thread Jack Davis
In spite of your rant, PJ, I called
Precision Camera for help. I may
have been lucky, as I was told they
no longer repair Pentax cameras.
J
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 10, 2018, at 12:27 AM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> Much as I hate to say this, for a digital body, only Pentax' official repair 
> service is likely to be good enough, and yet I hate Precision Camera Repair 
> with the heat of a thousand blazing suns.
> 
> 
>> On 4/7/2018 9:49 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> Anyone!
>> 
>> Is there a recommended camera repair service for the PDML?
>> 
>> My current, recently received, K3 replacement has a  lazy, weak, erratic 
>> ("H") shutter  burst rate.
>> 
>> Haven't decided, for certain, if I will submit it for repair, but it is 
>> being considered. This is the second
>> 
>> replacement since my "trusty" old K3 completely died this spring.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> 
>> J
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Re: Galloway update

2018-04-10 Thread David J Brooks
Hope everything works out in your favour soon.

Dave

On Mon, Apr 9, 2018, 10:27 PM Morris Galloway 
wrote:

> Health concerns force me to withdraw participation.  It has been a great
> run and I thank all of you who have corresponded. May God Bless Us All!
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Re: Galloway update

2018-04-10 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Morris,

It was just last week that I was thinking about not hearing from you for 
quite a while. And then today, I saw a message to the list from you...

Very sorry to hear about your health problems.

Be strong and positive!

Cheers,
Igor




On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 21:26:13 -0500
Morris Galloway wrote:



Health concerns force me to withdraw participation.  It has been a
great run and I thank all of you who have corresponded. May God Bless
Us All!





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portrait photography

2018-04-10 Thread Gonz
Nice positive article, a nice break from so much "Instagram" stuff..

https://petapixel.com/2018/04/10/a-message-to-portrait-photographers/


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Re: April PUG, "Night", is up

2018-04-10 Thread ann sanfedele
I would say then the photo is a bit of nostalgia for you -- um except it 
looked a bit different with nosnow :-)


a

On 4/10/2018 2:09 AM, John Coyle wrote:

The one on the NE corner is the one we went to, Ann!  Probably tried both...

Regards

John

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Sent: Sunday, 8 April 2018 11:01 AM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: April PUG, "Night", is up

   the one in this months PUG is on the north east corner of 7th and first...   
but I think you told
me you went to the one, on the south west corner and that I have frequently 
photo'ed (kitty corner
to the PUG one) ...which is surviving, thank goodness...

https://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Calendars-in-Print/Ill-take-Manhattan-Wall/i-pLJ83nG/A

It's the across the street from me.. , and in on eof the PDML annuals

ann


On 4/7/2018 7:57 PM, John Coyle wrote:

Hi Ann - is that the one on 1st. Avenue, coming down from 14th to 7th?
I think Jan and I shopped there more than once. Always sad to see small 
enterprises fold,

especially when the produce is good.


John in Brisbane


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Sent: Sunday, 8 April 2018 12:23 AM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: April PUG, "Night", is up

Thanks much Bob and Dan..   I don't do much night shooting.. this was
really luck - I hardly ever use a flash..
I did wnat to use one I don't think I'd shown the list before.

Sadly, that good old neighborhood corner food market (whcih
kitty-corner from the one you all have seenmore than once ) is another
neighborhood fatality - shut down from what probably was a rent increase it 
couldn't cope with..

gone a few months ago.

Yeah, a nice little gallery -
- but missing entrants from a couple of guys whose night photography is 
terrific so where was Raif

?

where wasLarry?

I like Don's safe haven most, I think, but only by a hair.

ann

On 4/7/2018 3:30 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

Nice - that could almost be a Leonard Cohen line :0) I hope Mark! Is paying 
attention.

Ann's great shot is not getting the attention it deserves.


On 7 Apr 2018, at 01:22, Rob Studdert  wrote:

Thanks Brian,

A great little gallery. Pentax gear excels at sucking the light out of night.

Cheers,



On 6 April 2018 at 20:26, Brian Walters  wrote:
G'day all,

A small gallery this month but some fine contributions.  Rob's
"Reflections of Vivid" at Sydney's Darling Harbour is the standout
for me with Jan's "Sunset Reflections" and Jostein's "November
Night" also very appealing.  A great gallery!

View here:

http://pug.komkon.org/



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Re: PESO One Tough Lady

2018-04-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
These of course are goldfinches. Don’t know why I had chickadees on my mind. 
Thanks to Ann for the wakeup call!

> On Apr 8, 2018, at 2:13 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> A female Chickadee challenges a male at the feeder. He skedaddled.
> 
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18466874/One-Tough-Lady


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Re: PESO: a bunch of reprobates

2018-04-10 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 10/4/18, Subash Jeyan, discombobulated, unleashed:

>what the  subject line says: a bunch of reprobates discussing more OT
>than pentax subjects in chennai
>
>https://somethingfeathered.wordpress.com/2018/04/10/a-bunch-of-reprobates/

Haha! The next life beckons! See you all in a tree somewhere ;-)

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Re: Galloway update

2018-04-10 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Morris:

Very sorry to hear this!  I hope you feel better soon.  Thinking of you!  
Cheers, Christine

> On Apr 9, 2018, at 9:26 PM, Morris Galloway  
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> Health concerns force me to withdraw participation.  It has been a great run 
> and I thank all of you who have corresponded. May God Bless Us All!
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Re: Repair Service?

2018-04-10 Thread Jack Davis
P.J. can you give me the contact
phone number or email address?
Thanks!

J

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> On Apr 10, 2018, at 12:27 AM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> Much as I hate to say this, for a digital body, only Pentax' official repair 
> service is likely to be good enough, and yet I hate Precision Camera Repair 
> with the heat of a thousand blazing suns.
> 
> 
>> On 4/7/2018 9:49 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> Anyone!
>> 
>> Is there a recommended camera repair service for the PDML?
>> 
>> My current, recently received, K3 replacement has a  lazy, weak, erratic 
>> ("H") shutter  burst rate.
>> 
>> Haven't decided, for certain, if I will submit it for repair, but it is 
>> being considered. This is the second
>> 
>> replacement since my "trusty" old K3 completely died this spring.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Repair Service?

2018-04-10 Thread P. J. Alling
Much as I hate to say this, for a digital body, only Pentax' official 
repair service is likely to be good enough, and yet I hate Precision 
Camera Repair with the heat of a thousand blazing suns.



On 4/7/2018 9:49 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

Anyone!

Is there a recommended camera repair service for the PDML?

My current, recently received, K3 replacement has a  lazy, weak, erratic ("H") 
shutter  burst rate.

Haven't decided, for certain, if I will submit it for repair, but it is being 
considered. This is the second

replacement since my "trusty" old K3 completely died this spring.


Thanks!


J







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