Re: Sounds like Pentax/Ricoh's resources are spread pretty thin...

[Bill]

On 4/11/2018 2:22 PM, Gonz wrote:

Some interesting things I had not heard of in there.

I wonder what the red strips mean: "not likely to be built"?



I suspect those lenses might be considered if the lenses they are 
committed to sell in great enough numbers. Ricoh will support the brand 
to an extent, but they won't put pail fulls of money into Pentax if the 
return doesn't look like it's going to be there.
Having said that, I expect the same thing goes for all the brands. What 
we have going for Pentax is that Ricoh willingly bought the brand, so 
there is some commitment to it. Canon is little more than a sideshow to 
a megacorp, Nikon is a semi standalone division of Mitsubishi, Sony is 
on record stating that they are throwing money at the wall to see what 
sticks. If cameras stop sticking, they are out. The only company I am 
really sure of is Fuji.


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Re: how hideous

[Bill]

On 4/11/2018 2:22 PM, Gonz wrote:

I just can't imagine...

https://petapixel.com/2018/04/11/this-adapter-lets-you-mount-any-giant-lens-on-your-tiny-smartphone/


Gaaaw. Now the retards on DPReview will be cumming in their jeans even 
more about the death of real cameras.


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Re: Repair Service?

[Jack Davis]

Thanks, Zos, but I no longer need
a camera repair service.
I ordered a replacement.

J
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 11, 2018, at 11:14 AM, Zos Xavius  wrote:
> 
> Call pentax's customer service number? Its on their website. Let us
> know who the new service center is please.
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 9:31 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> No! But I was told by Precision today
>> that they DO NOT!
>> J
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 10, 2018, at 3:35 PM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jack -
>>> 
>>> I have a K-5 that needs some work.  Did they tell you who is currently 
>>> repairing Pentax cameras?
>>> 
>>> -p
>>> 
>>> 
 On 4/10/2018 2:17 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
 In spite of your rant, PJ, I called
 Precision Camera for help. I may
 have been lucky, as I was told they
 no longer repair Pentax cameras.
 J
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Apr 10, 2018, at 12:27 AM, P. J. Alling  
> wrote:
> 
> Much as I hate to say this, for a digital body, only Pentax' official 
> repair service is likely to be good enough, and yet I hate Precision 
> Camera Repair with the heat of a thousand blazing suns.
> 
> 
>> On 4/7/2018 9:49 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> Anyone!
>> 
>> Is there a recommended camera repair service for the PDML?
>> 
>> My current, recently received, K3 replacement has a  lazy, weak, erratic 
>> ("H") shutter  burst rate.
>> 
>> Haven't decided, for certain, if I will submit it for repair, but it is 
>> being considered. This is the second
>> 
>> replacement since my "trusty" old K3 completely died this spring.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> 
>> J
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Re: portrait photography

[Larry Colen]

Igor PDML-StR wrote:


Nice story!
I can feel how fulfilling it was for the photographer to hear that
reaction.
Personally, I consider doing that type of photo job as a big challenge.




snip...




Soon after, I received a surprising e-mail from that dancer, apologizing
for her reaction, and asking how she can buy multiple prints for 4
photos. At some point, she was even considering an enlargement of one
photo (to a large size, above 8"x12", IIRC).

She wrote:
"It's ironic because I'm the one who snapped at you for taking my
picture.  Sorry about that.  Typically I absolutely hate having my
picture taken.  But I had no idea these would turn out so beautiful-
esp. the black and white one."


Another great story Igor.

There's a local dancer who asked me not to take photos of him. I 
generally do my best to comply, which can be challenging because his 
favorite part of the room to dance in generally has the best light.


A couple years back he tagged himself in one of my photos on facebook. 
He wasn't the primary subject, but was in the background.  I apologized 
for posting the photo, I hadn't noticed him in it, and he said no 
problem, it was a good photo and he didn't really mind good photos being 
posted.


Some people don't want any photos of them posted, some don't want any 
identifiable photos posted, and some just don't want bad photos posted.


A couple of years ago at another dance event (PBEX) there was a young 
woman that was seriously getting in my face about taking photos at the 
dances. Long story short, other people told me that she had been causing 
trouble for a lot of people, the event organizers apologized to me for 
the way she had treated me and said that I should have told her that I 
was one of the official event photographers.  I hadn't formally signed 
on, but they know me and in effect consider me "credentialled".


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how hideous

[Gonz]

I just can't imagine...

https://petapixel.com/2018/04/11/this-adapter-lets-you-mount-any-giant-lens-on-your-tiny-smartphone/


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Re: Sounds like Pentax/Ricoh's resources are spread pretty thin...

[Gonz]

Some interesting things I had not heard of in there.

I wonder what the red strips mean: "not likely to be built"?



On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 8:19 PM, Bill  wrote:
> On 4/9/2018 3:05 PM, Gonz wrote:
>>
>> It'd be nice to get a glimpse into their lens release timeline.  At
>> one point there was one.  Has there been an update? Anyone know?
>>
>
> https://pentaxrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Pentax-K-mount-lens-roadmap-487x550.jpg
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Re: portrait photography

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I certainly aspire to something like that.  I just don't think I have
the creative juices to do it.

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 5:56 PM, Bill  wrote:
> On 4/10/2018 11:37 AM, Gonz wrote:
>>
>> Nice positive article, a nice break from so much "Instagram" stuff..
>>
>> https://petapixel.com/2018/04/10/a-message-to-portrait-photographers/
>>
>>
> That was why I shot portraits for 4+ decades.
>
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Re: portrait photography

[Gonz]

Awesome story Igor.

Cheers,

Gonz


On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 9:24 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
>
> Nice story!
> I can feel how fulfilling it was for the photographer to hear that reaction.
> Personally, I consider doing that type of photo job as a big challenge.
>
>
> The story brought up from the memory the situation I experienced several
> years ago:
> As many people here probably know, I've been photographing dancers for many
> years. Occasionally, I had people asking me not to photograph them.
> In most such cases, you wouldn't see any "obvious" concerns about how they
> looked (you know, the usual social stereotypes of bad looks: 6 arms, 40
> legs, 7 eyes, bad hair, ... ). But I respect those requests. And they are
> usually done in a very polite way.
>
>
> Once, at a relatively small outdoors dance party, about 8 years ago,
> I had a very unusual situation.
> I was taking photographs of the dancers (being just outside the perimeter of
> the dance floor). At some point two dancers were dancing together, and that
> couple that was both dancing well, and looking well (and being quite
> "photogenic" even outside of the dance floor).
> So, during the song sequence that they danced together, I was photographing
> them a bit more than others. Very suddenly in the middle of
> a song (which is a rather rare case altogether in the social dance culture
> and especially in the dance community in question), the women stopped
> dancing, turned to me, and asked to stop photographing in a rather strong
> voice. And then she went back and resumed dancing. I was surprised by such a
> reaction, but honored that request. I saw that a few other dancers were also
> puzzled by such an abrupt reaction. (It was one of the "home" dance
> communities for us, - so quite a few dancers in that community knew me.)
>
>
> A week later, I posted the gallery of photos from that dance party online,
> to my photography web site. While preparing it, I was debating with myself
> if I should include the photos of that dancer (and especially with that
> partner) that I had taken prior to the request.
> I was still feeling very puzzled if not shocked by the somewhat rude way of
> expressing that preference. Besides, the request was not about not using the
> photos but not taking them anymore, and it came close to the end of the
> dance party, not in the beginning. After long internal deliberations, I
> decided to include those photos.
>
> Soon after, I received a surprising e-mail from that dancer, apologizing
> for her reaction, and asking how she can buy multiple prints for 4 photos.
> At some point, she was even considering an enlargement of one photo (to a
> large size, above 8"x12", IIRC).
>
> She wrote:
> "It's ironic because I'm the one who snapped at you for taking my picture.
> Sorry about that.  Typically I absolutely hate having my picture taken.  But
> I had no idea these would turn out so beautiful- esp. the black and white
> one."
>
> (In my personal opinion, the photos were not special, - just my usual photos
> from dance events, except for the black-and-white, which
> was indeed a very interesting and rather unusual one.)
>
>
> And then, in person, at the next dance party in that community, we
> chatted, and she said: "In the future, please feel free to take photos of me
> dancing."
> It was very pleasant to hear that despite the initial strong negative
> reaction, that woman enjoyed my photos of her.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Igor
>
> Gonz Tue, 10 Apr 2018 10:38:33 -0700 wrote:
>
> Nice positive article, a nice break from so much "Instagram" stuff..
>
>
> https://petapixel.com/2018/04/10/a-message-to-portrait-photographers/
>
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Re: Repair Service?

[P. J. Alling]

I have no Idea.  I poked around Ricoh imaging site and this is their 
contact page.


https://us.ricoh-imaging.com/index.php/contact-us

I tried the link to Precision and it doesn't work.  I guess you'll have 
to try asking a question through the contact form. Hope you get an 
answer, because we're all in the same leaky dingy.



On 4/10/2018 3:17 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

In spite of your rant, PJ, I called
Precision Camera for help. I may
have been lucky, as I was told they
no longer repair Pentax cameras.
J
Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 10, 2018, at 12:27 AM, P. J. Alling  wrote:

Much as I hate to say this, for a digital body, only Pentax' official repair 
service is likely to be good enough, and yet I hate Precision Camera Repair 
with the heat of a thousand blazing suns.



On 4/7/2018 9:49 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
Anyone!

Is there a recommended camera repair service for the PDML?

My current, recently received, K3 replacement has a  lazy, weak, erratic ("H") 
shutter  burst rate.

Haven't decided, for certain, if I will submit it for repair, but it is being 
considered. This is the second

replacement since my "trusty" old K3 completely died this spring.


Thanks!


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Re: PESO 2018 - 022, 023 - GDG

[Bob W-PDML]

Doesn’t matter when you’ve got the world’s biggest chopper:

https://goo.gl/images/1jzvsU

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On 11 Apr 2018, at 14:22, John 
> wrote:

Wide flare bell-bottom jeans are still contra-indicated.

On 4/8/2018 12:47, Chris Mitchell wrote:
That reinforces my decision to wear loose clothing when on my bike. No need
to squeeze into anything.
Nice bike Godfrey. Having seen the very original comments on FB, bags I be
the first person here to say "Are the tyres filled with helium?"
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Re: Repair Service?

[Zos Xavius]

Call pentax's customer service number? Its on their website. Let us
know who the new service center is please.

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 9:31 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> No! But I was told by Precision today
> that they DO NOT!
> J
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> Jack -
>>
>> I have a K-5 that needs some work.  Did they tell you who is currently 
>> repairing Pentax cameras?
>>
>> -p
>>
>>
>>> On 4/10/2018 2:17 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>>> In spite of your rant, PJ, I called
>>> Precision Camera for help. I may
>>> have been lucky, as I was told they
>>> no longer repair Pentax cameras.
>>> J
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Apr 10, 2018, at 12:27 AM, P. J. Alling  
 wrote:

 Much as I hate to say this, for a digital body, only Pentax' official 
 repair service is likely to be good enough, and yet I hate Precision 
 Camera Repair with the heat of a thousand blazing suns.


> On 4/7/2018 9:49 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
> Anyone!
>
> Is there a recommended camera repair service for the PDML?
>
> My current, recently received, K3 replacement has a  lazy, weak, erratic 
> ("H") shutter  burst rate.
>
> Haven't decided, for certain, if I will submit it for repair, but it is 
> being considered. This is the second
>
> replacement since my "trusty" old K3 completely died this spring.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
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Re: Pentax K3ll

[Jack Davis]

Sorry, Erc. Guess I missed your
K3ii comment.

J

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> On Apr 9, 2018, at 1:22 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
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> As I said, the shutter burst rate on it is excellent
> 
>> On April 9, 2018 11:46:14 AM PDT, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> Your understanding of my post is
>> likely misunderstood due to my 
>> age.
>> I do not have a K3ll, my intent was
>> to glean an opinion or two about it's
>> shutter's burst rate capability.
>> Appreciate your effort Larry!
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 9, 2018, at 11:11 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jack Davis wrote:
 Anyone using the Pentax K3ll? Have you used "H" burst rate setting
>> in AFC? If so, what do you think of the
 
 frame rate. Sluggish and irregular or aggressive and crisp?
>>> 
>>> I've got a K3II which I tend to use for long focal length work.  I
>> used it a lot for photographing aikido, primarily on the H setting.  It
>> makes the K-1 seem sluggish on frame rate, although if the K-1 fired at
>> that frame rate the buffer would be full in no time.
>>> 
>>> All of my major complaints with the K-3II (and pretty much every
>> other Pentax DSLR) are related to the autofocus.  The K-1 is better,
>> but not yet good.
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Re: Galloway update

[John]

On 4/9/2018 22:26, Morris Galloway wrote:
Health concerns force me to withdraw participation.  It has been a great run and 
I thank all of you who have corresponded. May God Bless Us All!





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Re: From the archives

[John]

"Kincade zone" ... I'll have to remember that one.

On 4/9/2018 15:07, P. J. Alling wrote:
Mark, you should never use Kennyboy's real name in a post.  If it gets repeated 
three times he'll appear in a cloud of garishly colored smoke and use his 
CaNikon to steal your soul, and recolor all you images causing them to be 
absorbed into the Kincade zone, never to be seen by anyone with normally 
calibrated eyesight again.



On 4/8/2018 2:28 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Jostein wrote:


Den 07.04.2018 21:24, skrev Mark Roberts:

"If the answer involves Ken Rockwell, you're asking the wrong
question."
- Doug Franklin

Well condensed truth.

Context: I'm working on the 2018 PRML Book and Im doing the annual
Quotations List as a compendium of the all-time best, ever since I
started doing the list (2003).

It does indeed contain much "condensed truth".

I've found it a real pleasure to go back and read the words of past
members from as long as 15 years ago. Some great memories there and,
yes, a lot of condensed truth. I think it'll be really appreciated by
everyone.





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Re: From the archives

[John]

On 4/8/2018 16:52, Bob W-PDML wrote:





[1] think of the opportunities there will be for imaginative hair artistes!



It's not enough I have that image stuck in my head now? I'm supposed to think 
about it too?




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Re: PESO 2018 - 022, 023 - GDG

[John]

Wide flare bell-bottom jeans are still contra-indicated.

On 4/8/2018 12:47, Chris Mitchell wrote:

That reinforces my decision to wear loose clothing when on my bike. No need
to squeeze into anything.

Nice bike Godfrey. Having seen the very original comments on FB, bags I be
the first person here to say "Are the tyres filled with helium?"

Chris

On 8 April 2018 at 15:25, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:




On Apr 7, 2018, at 11:14 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

The clip was quite funny showing the guy squeezing his belly in. I wear

lycra and I recognise that activity... There's no fool like an old fool,
but one of the joys of getting old is you stop giving a shit. A bunch of
old guys having some fun and keeping fit(-ish...). Nothing wrong with that.


The French have a verb 'boudiner' which I always think of when I'm

climbing into my lycra. It means to squeeze yourself into clothes that are
too tight, and comes from 'boudin', which is a type of sausage…

LOL! The one jersey the store had that I didn't buy was white, with black
bars in a pattern on the chest, topped with red shoulders. I thought it was
a cool pattern, but when I put it on and looked in the mirror, all I saw
was an overstuffed couch pillow. I handed it back and took the black with
zig-zag grey bars instead.

I mean, there's no need to exaggerate the fact that I'm a fat old bastard,
eh? It's perfectly obvious at first glance already…  :-)

I thought from all the hysterics of the news and weather report that
yesterday was supposed to be the second coming of the Deluge. But it turned
out to be a lovely, slightly overcast, warm, dry day. I did a 19 mile ride
on Sumo—testing the seat on the new seat post—and a 16 mile ride on the
FCC, just digging it and getting a cup of coffee. And I could still walk
when I got home. Life is great!

Since this is a photo list: I fitted the Voigtländer Color-Skopar 28mm
f/3.5 lens to the Leica M-D body. Slides ever so nicely into the Peak
Design Everyday Sling 5L, along with my iPad Pro 9x7, AirPods, keys,
wallet, cycling jersey (in case it got chilly), and iPhone 6. Room for
another lens too. A near perfect "go for a ride" kit: It tucks onto my
back, stays put, and is very handy to get in an out of. I made a couple of
exposures, probably nothing worth posting but I look forward to
transferring them to the computer and seeing what I did…

G
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