Re: PESO: crested serpent eagle

2019-01-02 Thread Jack Davis
Adit did good especially in view of
some deep shadows.

J

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> On Jan 1, 2019, at 7:11 PM, Subash Jeyan  wrote:
> 
> Adit got a photograph of a crested serpent eagle while he was
> spending his holidays in palakkad last week. yet to shoot this one
> myself. the eagle gets its name because of a fondness for
> snakes...
> 
> http://something-feathered.in/2019/01/02/crested-serpent-eagle/
> 
> k-s1 and the DAL 55-300...
> 
> comments appreciated,
> 
> subash
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Re: 2018 faves and chasing the muse

2019-01-02 Thread Bill

On 1/1/2019 9:43 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote:



I'm not taking many pictures these days, except occasionally with my phone, but 
I'm not going to beat myself up about it, and I don't think anyone else should. 
It's meant to be enjoyable, not a duty.



This really should go into a permanent quote list.

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Re: 2018 faves and chasing the muse

2019-01-02 Thread Bruce Walker
I think the secret to making sure it's a joy and not a duty is to
firmly resist the temptation to make photography a vocation.

On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 10:44 AM Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>
> I'm not taking many pictures these days, except occasionally with my phone, 
> but I'm not going to beat myself up about it, and I don't think anyone else 
> should. It's meant to be enjoyable, not a duty.

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Re: 2018 faves and chasing the muse

2019-01-02 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 2/1/19, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:

>This really should go into a permanent quote list.

>> I'm not taking many pictures these days, except occasionally with my
>>phone, but I'm not going to beat myself up about it, and I don't think
>>anyone else should. It's meant to be enjoyable, not a duty.

Some of us enjoy the beatings.





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Re: 2018 faves and chasing the muse

2019-01-02 Thread mike wilson


> On 02 January 2019 at 16:36 Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2/1/19, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >This really should go into a permanent quote list.
> 
> >> I'm not taking many pictures these days, except occasionally with my
> >>phone, but I'm not going to beat myself up about it, and I don't think
> >>anyone else should. It's meant to be enjoyable, not a duty.
> 
> Some of us enjoy the beatings.
> 

Only if applied by a lady of a certain age, dressed in a public school matron's 
uniform.  I think Bill has that covered.

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Re: OT: Pentax Spotting -- Welcome to Marwen

2019-01-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
It does not have the mass appeal of a Mary Poppins movie or a superhero
movie.  Those are the films that draw audiences today.

Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 10:26 PM John  wrote:

> Every review I've seen for "Welcome to Marwen" has been favorable,
> although I've
> seen some that said it wasn't as good as the documentary film "Marwencol".
>
> It's just not performing at the box office.
>
> On 1/1/2019 14:59:15, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> > I thought "Welcome to Marwen" was outstanding.. One of the best this
> year. At
> > the showing I attended, about 80% of the nearly full house gave it a
> standing
> > ovation.
> >
> > And yet the reviews I've seen thumb Marwen down in favor of that hideous,
> > soulless, scriptless, and dull-witted Mary Poppins remake. That was
> painful
> > to even sit through, and gets my vote as one of the worst films I've ever
> > suffered through.
> >
> > G
> >
>  On 1/1/2019 12:24 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: We saw Welcome to
> Marwen
>  this past weekend;  Both my wife and I really enjoyed it.  You may
> have
>  to look for it in "art" theaters, rather than in the multiplex cinemas
>  at the malls.
> >>>
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: PESO: crested serpent eagle

2019-01-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Very nicely done indeed.

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On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 10:19 PM Subash Jeyan  wrote:

> Adit got a photograph of a crested serpent eagle while he was
> spending his holidays in palakkad last week. yet to shoot this one
> myself. the eagle gets its name because of a fondness for
> snakes...
>
> http://something-feathered.in/2019/01/02/crested-serpent-eagle/
>
> k-s1 and the DAL 55-300...
>
> comments appreciated,
>
> subash
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Re: 2018 faves and chasing the muse

2019-01-02 Thread William Robb
On Wed, Jan 2, 2019, 9:49 AM Bruce Walker  I think the secret to making sure it's a joy and not a duty is to
> firmly resist the temptation to make photography a vocation.
>

Or make photographing naked women into a vocation.
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Re: 2018 faves and chasing the muse

2019-01-02 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 5:09 PM William Robb  wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019, 9:49 AM Bruce Walker 
> > I think the secret to making sure it's a joy and not a duty is to
> > firmly resist the temptation to make photography a vocation.
>
> Or make photographing naked women into a vocation.

I expect that even shooting naked ladies can become a chore if there's
commerce involved. Deadlines, securing models, post-processing,
location scouting, paperwork ... bleargh.

Shooting nude women just because you can is all joy.

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Re: 2018 faves and chasing the muse

2019-01-02 Thread Larry Colen



Bruce Walker wrote on 1/2/19 3:42 PM:

On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 5:09 PM William Robb  wrote:


On Wed, Jan 2, 2019, 9:49 AM Bruce Walker 
I think the secret to making sure it's a joy and not a duty is to
firmly resist the temptation to make photography a vocation.


Or make photographing naked women into a vocation.


I expect that even shooting naked ladies can become a chore if there's
commerce involved. Deadlines, securing models, post-processing,
location scouting, paperwork ... bleargh.

Shooting nude women just because you can is all joy.


Some years ago I was toying with the idea of going pro and was figuring 
out what it would take to make a living at photography. I knew that I 
wouldn't be able to go from zero to enough paid gigs to make a living in 
any sort of reasonable time, but I was able to get enough free gigs to 
simulate what it would be like to work as a photographer.  It took about 
two or three weeks of that to suck all of the fun out of my photography 
and convince me that I didn't want photography to become my job, I 
wanted to keep it as something that I did for fun. It is nice, however, 
when occasionally the fun I get from photography includes cashing a check.


Now pardon me as I was philosophic, and perhaps a bit pedantic...

From my study of Aikido, I have realized that almost any activity can 
become a "do", (pronounced doe) aka dao, tao, or translated "way" or 
path". For me to treat something as a do, is to work on improving my 
skill at it for the meditative benefits of working to improve your 
skills at that activity.  For me, photography can very much fall into 
that category because there are so many areas to improve one's 
(especially my) skill and understanding. For me, simply working on 
holding the camera still while taking photos can be a skill that can 
never be perfected, only improved. Composition, lighting, and even 
putting a model at ease are just a few more of those skills.


So, to me, walking around with my camera looking for photos, even when I 
don't have my muse, isn't necessarily a onerous chore, but an 
opportunity for a few minutes of meditation.  At least that's the theory.



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Re: 2018 faves and chasing the muse

2019-01-02 Thread Bob W-PDML


> On 3 Jan 2019, at 00:36, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> Some years ago I was toying with the idea of going pro and was figuring out 
> what it would take to make a living at photography. I knew that I wouldn't be 
> able to go from zero to enough paid gigs to make a living in any sort of 
> reasonable time, but I was able to get enough free gigs to simulate what it 
> would be like to work as a photographer.  It took about two or three weeks of 
> that to suck all of the fun out of my photography and convince me that I 
> didn't want photography to become my job, I wanted to keep it as something 
> that I did for fun. It is nice, however, when occasionally the fun I get from 
> photography includes cashing a check.
> 
> Now pardon me as I was philosophic, and perhaps a bit pedantic...
> 
> From my study of Aikido, I have realized that almost any activity can become 
> a "do", (pronounced doe) aka dao, tao, or translated "way" or path". For me 
> to treat something as a do, is to work on improving my skill at it for the 
> meditative benefits of working to improve your skills at that activity.  For 
> me, photography can very much fall into that category because there are so 
> many areas to improve one's (especially my) skill and understanding. For me, 
> simply working on holding the camera still while taking photos can be a skill 
> that can never be perfected, only improved. Composition, lighting, and even 
> putting a model at ease are just a few more of those skills.
> 
> So, to me, walking around with my camera looking for photos, even when I 
> don't have my muse, isn't necessarily a onerous chore, but an opportunity for 
> a few minutes of meditation.  At least that's the theory.
> 

Influenced in all things by Henri Cartier-Bresson, I read a few years ago a 
book that he recommended to photographers, called Zen in the Art of Archery, by 
Eugen Herrigel. This had a very profound philosophical and practical effect on 
my approach to photography and now when I'm taking pictures I close my eyes, 
breathe slowly, rhythmically and meditatively to make myself one with the 
cosmos, visualise the spirit of the image, then throw my camera at the subject.





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Re: PESO: crested serpent eagle

2019-01-02 Thread Subash Jeyan
thank you Jack and Dan for the nice words...



On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 15:47:25 -0500
"Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:

> Very nicely done indeed.
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 10:19 PM Subash Jeyan 
> wrote:
> 
> > Adit got a photograph of a crested serpent eagle while he was
> > spending his holidays in palakkad last week. yet to shoot this one
> > myself. the eagle gets its name because of a fondness for
> > snakes...
> >
> > http://something-feathered.in/2019/01/02/crested-serpent-eagle/
> >
> > k-s1 and the DAL 55-300...

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Re: My Mood Is Changing ... Again

2019-01-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I believe they are different places:

http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/1389

https://www.bing.com/search?q=Chengdu&pc=cosp&ptag=G6C999N1234ACC4A5BF80C&form=CONBNT&conlogo=CT3210127

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On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 10:17 PM John  wrote:

> I thought Xanadu was the OLD spelling and Chengdu was the modern preferred
> translation.
>
> On 1/1/2019 12:42:54, Bob W-PDML wrote:
> > Some very interesting pictures there, Boris.
> >
> > Did you know that Chengdu is what we now call Xanadu...?
> >
> >> On 1 Jan 2019, at 17:21, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> >>
> >> It does not work for me this way, Stan.
> >>
> >> Normally, when I go on a trip abroad, I would take more consistent
> >> pictures, but less interesting or less inspired, if you will.
> >>
> >> If you're inclined to go through 25+ pictures - have a look here:
> >> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1H7burQbgc8DiRi5SPYFheKR11tcBBRPN
> >>
>
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Re: 2018 faves and chasing the muse

2019-01-02 Thread P. J. Alling

Shooting nude women just because you can is all joy.

This can be taken a number of ways, and out of context, it's a MARK!

On 1/2/2019 6:42 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 5:09 PM William Robb  wrote:

On Wed, Jan 2, 2019, 9:49 AM Bruce Walker 
I think the secret to making sure it's a joy and not a duty is to
firmly resist the temptation to make photography a vocation.

Or make photographing naked women into a vocation.

I expect that even shooting naked ladies can become a chore if there's
commerce involved. Deadlines, securing models, post-processing,
location scouting, paperwork ... bleargh.

Shooting nude women just because you can is all joy.


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Re: OT: A New Life Partner

2019-01-02 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Congratulations to both of you, Paul!

Happy and Marry!
or
Merry and Hep-py! :)

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After about three years without my wife of 44 years, I decided I 
definitely didn’t like going it alone. Fortuitously, I met a wonderful 
lady who had also lost her mate to cancer after many years of marriage and 
was equally unhappy with life as a single.  We’ve been dating for about 14 
months and recently announced our engagement. It’s never too late for 
love!  But it is too late to attempt this without knee pads! 
https://www.photo.net/photo/18514460/A-Life-Partner 
https://www.photo.net/photo/18514461/Bling-for-my-Babe


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Re: OT: Pentax Spotting -- Welcome to Marwen

2019-01-02 Thread John
Would you have gone to see it if it hadn't been for the "Pentax Spotting" post? 
I probably wouldn't even have known about it.


On 1/2/2019 15:37:44, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

It does not have the mass appeal of a Mary Poppins movie or a superhero
movie.  Those are the films that draw audiences today.

Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 10:26 PM John  wrote:


Every review I've seen for "Welcome to Marwen" has been favorable,
although I've
seen some that said it wasn't as good as the documentary film "Marwencol".

It's just not performing at the box office.

On 1/1/2019 14:59:15, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I thought "Welcome to Marwen" was outstanding.. One of the best this

year. At

the showing I attended, about 80% of the nearly full house gave it a

standing

ovation.

And yet the reviews I've seen thumb Marwen down in favor of that hideous,
soulless, scriptless, and dull-witted Mary Poppins remake. That was

painful

to even sit through, and gets my vote as one of the worst films I've ever
suffered through.

G


On 1/1/2019 12:24 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: We saw Welcome to

Marwen

this past weekend;  Both my wife and I really enjoyed it.  You may

have

to look for it in "art" theaters, rather than in the multiplex cinemas
at the malls.













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Re: 2018 faves and chasing the muse

2019-01-02 Thread Alan C

Bullsh*t baffles brains?

Alan C

On 03-Jan-19 02:53 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

On 3 Jan 2019, at 00:36, Larry Colen  wrote:


Some years ago I was toying with the idea of going pro and was figuring out 
what it would take to make a living at photography. I knew that I wouldn't be 
able to go from zero to enough paid gigs to make a living in any sort of 
reasonable time, but I was able to get enough free gigs to simulate what it 
would be like to work as a photographer.  It took about two or three weeks of 
that to suck all of the fun out of my photography and convince me that I didn't 
want photography to become my job, I wanted to keep it as something that I did 
for fun. It is nice, however, when occasionally the fun I get from photography 
includes cashing a check.

Now pardon me as I was philosophic, and perhaps a bit pedantic...

 From my study of Aikido, I have realized that almost any activity can become a "do", 
(pronounced doe) aka dao, tao, or translated "way" or path". For me to treat something as 
a do, is to work on improving my skill at it for the meditative benefits of working to improve your 
skills at that activity.  For me, photography can very much fall into that category because there are so 
many areas to improve one's (especially my) skill and understanding. For me, simply working on holding 
the camera still while taking photos can be a skill that can never be perfected, only improved. 
Composition, lighting, and even putting a model at ease are just a few more of those skills.

So, to me, walking around with my camera looking for photos, even when I don't 
have my muse, isn't necessarily a onerous chore, but an opportunity for a few 
minutes of meditation.  At least that's the theory.


Influenced in all things by Henri Cartier-Bresson, I read a few years ago a 
book that he recommended to photographers, called Zen in the Art of Archery, by 
Eugen Herrigel. This had a very profound philosophical and practical effect on 
my approach to photography and now when I'm taking pictures I close my eyes, 
breathe slowly, rhythmically and meditatively to make myself one with the 
cosmos, visualise the spirit of the image, then throw my camera at the subject.








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Re: OT: Pentax Spotting -- Welcome to Marwen

2019-01-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I would have gone.  I saw several interesting reviews, and I like Steve
Carell.

Dan Matyola
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On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 11:31 PM John  wrote:

> Would you have gone to see it if it hadn't been for the "Pentax Spotting"
> post?
> I probably wouldn't even have known about it.
>
> On 1/2/2019 15:37:44, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> > It does not have the mass appeal of a Mary Poppins movie or a superhero
> > movie.  Those are the films that draw audiences today.
> >
> > Dan Matyola
> > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 10:26 PM John  wrote:
> >
> >> Every review I've seen for "Welcome to Marwen" has been favorable,
> >> although I've
> >> seen some that said it wasn't as good as the documentary film
> "Marwencol".
> >>
> >> It's just not performing at the box office.
> >>
> >> On 1/1/2019 14:59:15, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> >>> I thought "Welcome to Marwen" was outstanding.. One of the best this
> >> year. At
> >>> the showing I attended, about 80% of the nearly full house gave it a
> >> standing
> >>> ovation.
> >>>
> >>> And yet the reviews I've seen thumb Marwen down in favor of that
> hideous,
> >>> soulless, scriptless, and dull-witted Mary Poppins remake. That was
> >> painful
> >>> to even sit through, and gets my vote as one of the worst films I've
> ever
> >>> suffered through.
> >>>
> >>> G
> >>>
> >> On 1/1/2019 12:24 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: We saw Welcome to
> >> Marwen
> >> this past weekend;  Both my wife and I really enjoyed it.  You may
> >> have
> >> to look for it in "art" theaters, rather than in the multiplex
> cinemas
> >> at the malls.
> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
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Re: OT: Pentax Spotting -- Welcome to Marwen

2019-01-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I saw the preview some months ago. I also knew something of the real life story 
from which the movie was drawn. So yes: I would have gone to see it regardless. 

The reviews on various sources like Rotten Tomatoes are bimodal between like 
and dislike, and the overall score is low. But I never gauge what movie to see 
by the reviews, just like I never gauge what camera to buy according to the 
reviews. 

G

> On Jan 2, 2019, at 8:53 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> I would have gone.  I saw several interesting reviews, and I like Steve
> Carell.
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 11:31 PM John  wrote:
> 
>> Would you have gone to see it if it hadn't been for the "Pentax Spotting"
>> post?
>> I probably wouldn't even have known about it.
>> 
>> On 1/2/2019 15:37:44, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>> It does not have the mass appeal of a Mary Poppins movie or a superhero
>>> movie.  Those are the films that draw audiences today.
>>> 
>>> Dan Matyola
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>> 
>>> […]

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Re: 2018 faves and chasing the muse

2019-01-02 Thread Ralf R Radermacher

Am 02.01.19 um 16:39 schrieb Bruce Walker:

I think the secret to making sure it's a joy and not a duty is to
firmly resist the temptation to make photography a vocation.


In my book, this goes for turning any hobby into a profession. I've done 
so with audio engineering, many moons ago, and it took me almost 20 
years afterwards to find some fun in doing audio as a hobby again.


Ralf

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Re: 2018 faves and chasing the muse

2019-01-02 Thread mike wilson
> On 03 January 2019 at 00:53 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > On 3 Jan 2019, at 00:36, Larry Colen  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Some years ago I was toying with the idea of going pro and was figuring out 
> > what it would take to make a living at photography. I knew that I wouldn't 
> > be able to go from zero to enough paid gigs to make a living in any sort of 
> > reasonable time, but I was able to get enough free gigs to simulate what it 
> > would be like to work as a photographer.  It took about two or three weeks 
> > of that to suck all of the fun out of my photography and convince me that I 
> > didn't want photography to become my job, I wanted to keep it as something 
> > that I did for fun. It is nice, however, when occasionally the fun I get 
> > from photography includes cashing a check.
> > 
> > Now pardon me as I was philosophic, and perhaps a bit pedantic...
> > 
> > From my study of Aikido, I have realized that almost any activity can 
> > become a "do", (pronounced doe) aka dao, tao, or translated "way" or path". 
> > For me to treat something as a do, is to work on improving my skill at it 
> > for the meditative benefits of working to improve your skills at that 
> > activity.  For me, photography can very much fall into that category 
> > because there are so many areas to improve one's (especially my) skill and 
> > understanding. For me, simply working on holding the camera still while 
> > taking photos can be a skill that can never be perfected, only improved. 
> > Composition, lighting, and even putting a model at ease are just a few more 
> > of those skills.
> > 
> > So, to me, walking around with my camera looking for photos, even when I 
> > don't have my muse, isn't necessarily a onerous chore, but an opportunity 
> > for a few minutes of meditation.  At least that's the theory.
> > 
> 
> Influenced in all things by Henri Cartier-Bresson, I read a few years ago a 
> book that he recommended to photographers, called Zen in the Art of Archery, 
> by Eugen Herrigel. This had a very profound philosophical and practical 
> effect on my approach to photography and now when I'm taking pictures I close 
> my eyes, breathe slowly, rhythmically and meditatively to make myself one 
> with the cosmos, visualise the spirit of the image, then throw my camera at 
> the subject.
> 

I read it as throwing the lens, leaving the body for composing the next shot.  
Even so, I couldn't get past the minimum focusing distance with the 600/4.  
Macro work is much easier.

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