Re: Printer reccomendations
Only if he passes the state exam. On 7/2/2019 5:10 PM, Postmaster wrote: Igor PDML-StR wrote: "C-grade students also get a job." Q: What do you call the guy who graduates medical school at the bottom of his class? A: Doctor. -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Printer reccomendations
It may not be an engineer's fault. I was once given an assignment to create a utility to display some stored information. The specified query could have returned, in fact was likely to return, multiple hundreds of "pages" of information that the user would then have to page through to find the item they were looking for. After finishing writing the code, I tested it and went off to find my superior, (and I use that term lightly), explained that after one use no one was likely to ever use this function again, and why. He agreed with me, but didn't have the authority to allow me to make a change, not a simple change, but not more than a couple of hours work, which was already in the schedule for this module, I had finished way early. So we set off on the yellow brick road, to find the wizard who could grant permission. After literally several hours, of being shunted from one minor bureaucrat to the next, we finally were before the managing partner for the project, where we made our case. His response, you may ask? The module is done to specification, and we're giving the client that capability for free anyway, so don't worry about it, it's done. It literally took more time to get to the only authority who could authorize the change than it would have taken to modify the specification, rewrite the pseudo code, which was the basis for the actual code, write a new SQL query that allowed for narrowing the scope of the search, and the new code, redesign and rewrite the user interface, then test it and ship the whole thing off to QA, only to have it denied. I learned valuable lessons from that project, including how to write a CYA memo, they were a necessity. On 7/2/2019 3:45 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Godfrey, thanks a lot for posting this quotation from the manual. From that, I would agree with your conjecture of what Epson did. The last "Why" question was rather rhetorical. I understand that you weren't the engineer who designed this printer. But I disagree with the sentiment that we cannot criticize engineers for what they've done. Every so often I see things that are done awkwardly (often for saving some money, while creating huge inconvenience or waste, sometimes because of lack of proper thinking). When I encounter such things, I am always trying to find at least *some* rational for what they've done (even if I would disagree with it). Often, it is hard to imagine anything even remotely sane. For those cases, I've found the mantra that helps me to keep my own sanity: "C-grade students also get a job." (The origin of this phrase might become more clear from the following background fact: I've taught many (several hundreds) students with various engineering majors, and some of those felt they were entitled for a good grade just because they attended the class, even though they didn't put enough effort in it, if at all.) Here is one example of a rather drastic engineering "oops": The stairwell case in a family-oriented, reasonably spacious recently built apartment complex was just a bit too narrow for a queen-size spring box (for the bed) to pass at the turn/corner (straight, diagonally, vertically, - we've tried all), so that the only way to get it to the 2nd and 3rd floor was to lift it with ropes from the balcony. Cheers, Igor PS. And the numbers quoted by Paul are huge! 3 ml, or even 1 ml?! Switching some 12-15 times would consume the entire cartridge. If true, that's a robbery! Godfrey DiGiorgi Mon, 01 Jul 2019 18:40:40 -0700 wrote: You ask questions for which I can only conjecture, and I don't do that. I can only say for sure what the manual says. "EPSON P600 User Manual - page 137 Switching the Black Ink Type Switching the black ink type takes several minutes and consumes some ink in the process. Check the black ink type media list to select the correct type for the media you loaded. 1. Press the home button. 2. Press the black ink change button. 3. Select Proceed and select one of these types of black ink to switch to: • Photo Black to Matte Black—switching takes about 1.5 minutes • Matte Black to Photo Black—switching takes about 3.5 minutes" I would imagine that the two Black inks use the same feed lines in the head from this, and likely because of the added cost of doing independent feed lines (and whatever other complications that it might entail). But that's as far as I am willing to conjecture. I don't design this stuff, I use it. Far be it from me to tell the engineers how to do their job. I turned off autoswitching because I only rarely print on papers that don't take Matte Black ink and found that if I chose the wrong paper type at first then later changed to the correct paper type, the printer needlessly cycled back and forth wasting a lot of time and a bit of ink. G On Mon, 1 Jul 2019, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Godfrey, That information that the printer has an ink-changing cycle is interesting.
Re: OT: Chileans, Argentines gape at total solar eclipse
On 7/2/2019 21:17:11, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: https://apnews.com/0eb6678b88944c48a925fbe20cef75c7 Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola Oh, cool!. We get another good one here in the U.S. in April 8, 2024. https://www.greatamericaneclipse.com/april-8-2024 Starts somewhere out in the Pacific Ocean and comes ashore near Mazatlan, Mexico. For the US, it crosses into the U.S. near Eagle Pass, Texas and travels diagonally across the U.S. Dallas is in the path, and San Antonio is on the edge. Texarkana,TX & Texarkana, Ar; Cape Giradeau, MO; Carbondale, IL; Indianapolis, IN; Dayton, Colombus, Toledo, Sandusky & Cleveland OH all get a treat. At Lorain Ohio the center line of the totality traverses Lake Erie to Buffalo, NY. Mississauga & Toronto are just barely outside the northern limit of the totality, but Hamilton & Saint Catharines are between the central line & the northern limit. Rochester & Watertown, NY are close to the central line. Montreal is just inside the northern limit. Syracuse, NY & Montpelier, VT are near the southern limit, but Plattsburgh, NY is almost directly on the central line. Most of the larger cities in Maine are south of the southern limit & the it crosses into New Brunswick. It goes across Newfoundland before passing out into the North Atlantic. Looks like the 21st Century is going to be good for Total Eclipses in North America, particularly the U.S. There's another one in 2045 that parallels the 2017 path Euela, CA to Florida (with the path of totality stretching from Saint Agustine to Miami (255 Km wide) ... also 2052, 2078, 2079 & 2099. I probably won't be around to see any of those. https://www.greatamericaneclipse.com/maps-and-posters/new-21st-century-total-solar-eclipses-over-north-america -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another Printer Question
You could try letting the printer manage color, that solved a myraid of problems back when I was still using HP printers. The Canon gives much closer results to the screen image when I do that since I don't have a dedicated profile for any of my common printing papers. I sometimes get the feeling the printer is actually fighting Photoshop. On 7/2/2019 1:53 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: Hi PDML Well, I just nearly fell off my chair. I have an Epson P50 printer, a few years old and been around the block now, but it still works and the separate ink tanks I like, but generally I don't print photos from it - it's just the House Printer. The Mrs announced she wanted some prints doing of photos she had taken so i though okay, i better make sure it's gonna work. Test prints in CS6 resulted in horizontal banding. As I recall, I had the same issue way back and tried troubleshooting it at the time and gave up when offered a beer. I may have thrown the empty bottle at the printer. Anyway, a nice A4 shot with plenty of textures and patterns came out shit with loads of horizontal banding. Okay, nozzle check, one or two gaps here and there, cleaning cycles, nozzles clear. Still banding. Next, head alignment, and another test print. Still banding. Tried adjusting all sorts of settings in Photoshop CS6 to no avail. Very slight colour overlapping resulting in discreet but noticeable banding. Then I had a thought. I exported the image as a best quality largest size jpeg onto my desktop and opened it in Preview (a Mac general purpose photo viewer/editor, comes with the OS). I printed from that and NO BANDING. Anyone care to hazard a guess where I'm clearly being defeated by CS6 ? Thanks for all advice. -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Printer reccomendations
Larry Colen wrote: > >> On Jul 2, 2019, at 6:09 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >> >> I didn't mean to say that we cannot criticize designs and wonder why they >> were >made the way they were. I said I don't pretend to tell engineers how to do >what >they do. Engineers generally have good reasons why they do the things they do >that >are not obvious to us on the outside and cannot be we don't have enough >information to judge the engineers' decisions. > >It has been my experience after several decades of engineering that the reason >for >an awful lot of WTF engineering decisions boil down to someone with pointy >hair >insisting that things be done that way. Absolutely. Jesus, I'm glad I got out of that business. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Printer reccomendations
> On Jul 2, 2019, at 6:09 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > I didn't mean to say that we cannot criticize designs and wonder why they > were made the way they were. I said I don't pretend to tell engineers how to > do what they do. Engineers generally have good reasons why they do the things > they do that are not obvious to us on the outside and cannot be … we don't > have enough information to judge the engineers' decisions. It has been my experience after several decades of engineering that the reason for an awful lot of WTF engineering decisions boil down to someone with pointy hair insisting that things be done that way. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Chileans, Argentines gape at total solar eclipse
https://apnews.com/0eb6678b88944c48a925fbe20cef75c7 Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Printer reccomendations
I didn't mean to say that we cannot criticize designs and wonder why they were made the way they were. I said I don't pretend to tell engineers how to do what they do. Engineers generally have good reasons why they do the things they do that are not obvious to us on the outside and cannot be … we don't have enough information to judge the engineers' decisions. When something doesn't work, it's fine to criticize it. It's not sensible to obsess over perceived flaws in a design and spend all your energy crabbing about it, however, because the only person losing out by doing that too much is the person doing it. In my many years in high tech, the most consistent reasons why something didn't work the way I thought it ought to boiled down to the cost and time to do it better while still making deadlines and turning a profit. The second most consistent reasons were that I tend to use some things in ways that no marketing or functional requirements were ever written to consider. I can't be there to assist all engineering groups of all products that I use be sure that the marketing and functional requirements meet all my needs and uses. So it comes down to looking at what has been produced, for the most part, and figuring out how to get what I want out of it, despite whatever design issues it might have, and accepting some things as the "cost of doing business." I feel quite comfortable that I've done my bit in the (small) sphere of things that I actually had some influence on to make sure that they worked as they ought to. :-) Regards the notes on the Red River Paper site about ink usage in the switch over process, it's unclear whether that is the amount of black ink consumed in the process or whether that is the 'total' amount of ink used, since all ink cartridges do get some exercise in switchover and activation processes in my experience. If it's the total amount of ink used, 3ml distributed across eight 25 ml cartridges is about a 1.5% ink consumption hit for purging lines and optimizing printing. If it's what is lost solely from the black ink, it's a 12% hit, which seems quite a lot: that high a consumption isn't reflected in the ink status of the black ink cartridges before and after a switchover event on my printer, and I haven't seen anything to indicate otherwise that I had reduced the total number of prints I could make by that gross a number. Regardless, it is best to minimize black ink switchover to save ink. I print almost exclusively on matte surface papers, so I only switch over to Photo Black ink when I decide a particular set of prints will work better on the Epson Exhibition Fiber paper (a beautiful, deep semigloss paper) and bunch all my printing for that paper type up so that I switch over just twice—once to Photo Black and then back to Matte Black. I do this very rarely, it hasn't proven to be a major cost. The R2000 printer the article talks about is simply inappropriate for my needs since I print about 80% B and the R2000 is optimized for glossy surface printing; it lacks the full B inkset and the ABW control capabilities. The fact that there's a cost involved in switching inks in the P600 is mostly lost in the noise since with the bigger tanks and the practices of most photographers, switching blacks is something done relatively rarely: Most sophisticated photographers I know settle on two or three papers for the vast majority of their prints and learn how to get the most out of printing to those papers rather than changing papers all the time. Of course, it's in their best interest to pick papers that all use the same black ink type... :-) G > On Jul 2, 2019, at 12:45 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > > Godfrey, thanks a lot for posting this quotation from the manual. > From that, I would agree with your conjecture of what Epson did. > > The last "Why" question was rather rhetorical. I understand that you > weren't the engineer who designed this printer. > > But I disagree with the sentiment that we cannot criticize engineers for what > they've done. … -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2019 - 067 - GDG
Looks like a handy facility. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 1:59 PM Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > This is the parking garage at San Jose International Airport. The > Guadalupe River Trail runs right next to it: I stopped to take this shot on > Sunday while out on my bicycle ride. > > https://flic.kr/p/2gpDeZD > > Enjoy! > G > — > The trouble with being punctual is that nobody's there to appreciate it. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Mountain Biking down a glacier
For the bikers on the list: http://digg.com/video/mountain-of-hell-2019-crash Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Printer reccomendations
Igor PDML-StR wrote: >"C-grade students also get a job." Q: What do you call the guy who graduates medical school at the bottom of his class? A: Doctor. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Printer reccomendations
Godfrey, thanks a lot for posting this quotation from the manual. From that, I would agree with your conjecture of what Epson did. The last "Why" question was rather rhetorical. I understand that you weren't the engineer who designed this printer. But I disagree with the sentiment that we cannot criticize engineers for what they've done. Every so often I see things that are done awkwardly (often for saving some money, while creating huge inconvenience or waste, sometimes because of lack of proper thinking). When I encounter such things, I am always trying to find at least *some* rational for what they've done (even if I would disagree with it). Often, it is hard to imagine anything even remotely sane. For those cases, I've found the mantra that helps me to keep my own sanity: "C-grade students also get a job." (The origin of this phrase might become more clear from the following background fact: I've taught many (several hundreds) students with various engineering majors, and some of those felt they were entitled for a good grade just because they attended the class, even though they didn't put enough effort in it, if at all.) Here is one example of a rather drastic engineering "oops": The stairwell case in a family-oriented, reasonably spacious recently built apartment complex was just a bit too narrow for a queen-size spring box (for the bed) to pass at the turn/corner (straight, diagonally, vertically, - we've tried all), so that the only way to get it to the 2nd and 3rd floor was to lift it with ropes from the balcony. Cheers, Igor PS. And the numbers quoted by Paul are huge! 3 ml, or even 1 ml?! Switching some 12-15 times would consume the entire cartridge. If true, that's a robbery! Godfrey DiGiorgi Mon, 01 Jul 2019 18:40:40 -0700 wrote: You ask questions for which I can only conjecture, and I don't do that. I can only say for sure what the manual says. "EPSON P600 User Manual - page 137 Switching the Black Ink Type Switching the black ink type takes several minutes and consumes some ink in the process. Check the black ink type media list to select the correct type for the media you loaded. 1. Press the home button. 2. Press the black ink change button. 3. Select Proceed and select one of these types of black ink to switch to: • Photo Black to Matte Black—switching takes about 1.5 minutes • Matte Black to Photo Black—switching takes about 3.5 minutes" I would imagine that the two Black inks use the same feed lines in the head from this, and likely because of the added cost of doing independent feed lines (and whatever other complications that it might entail). But that's as far as I am willing to conjecture. I don't design this stuff, I use it. Far be it from me to tell the engineers how to do their job. I turned off autoswitching because I only rarely print on papers that don't take Matte Black ink and found that if I chose the wrong paper type at first then later changed to the correct paper type, the printer needlessly cycled back and forth wasting a lot of time and a bit of ink. G On Mon, 1 Jul 2019, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Godfrey, That information that the printer has an ink-changing cycle is interesting. But what is actually done during that cycle? I assumed that having both blacks simultaneously spares you from any ink waste, and what I am reading from your suggests (if I understood it correctly), that could be a wrong assumption. But I am still curious, - what do they actually do? Purge the nozzles from one black and initialize them with the other one? That would mean that despite having both black cartridges installed at the same time, they are multiplexing the head nozzles. But why? Why wouldn't they have separate sets of nozzles, just considering each black as a separate color (like they do for Light Black and Light-Light Black [LK and LLK])? Igor Godfrey DiGiorgi Sun, 30 Jun 2019 18:14:15 -0700 wrote: BTW: the P600 ink tanks are much larger than R2400 and R2880. They're up in the 20-25 ml range. And the Photo Black and Matte Black inks are installed simultaneously … the printer will even change ink mode automatically based upon the paper you select, if you enable that option. (I don't, because it means more possibilities of an ink change cycle which takes time and costs ink.) I've found the P600's ink tanks and general economy in printing reduce the per print cost quite significantly over the R2400. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Another one from New Hampshire
Very nice! I really like the way the rocks on the left separate the quiet pool and the torrent. Rick On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 12:56 PM Postmaster wrote: > > A more conventional, slow-shutter-speed water shot, but I really like > the composition and lighting on this one. > > http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e301502.jpg > > > -- > Mark Roberts - Photography and Multimedia > www.robertstech.com > 617-522-0174 > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another Printer Question
I'll take a wild guess that there is some sort of aliasing happening in the conversion process. In Lightroom I can print to a file, do you get the banding if you print to a file rather than export to jpeg? On July 2, 2019 10:53:22 AM PDT, Steve Cottrell wrote: >Hi PDML > >Well, I just nearly fell off my chair. > >I have an Epson P50 printer, a few years old and been around the block >now, but it still works and the separate ink tanks I like, but >generally I don't print photos from it - it's just the House Printer. > >The Mrs announced she wanted some prints doing of photos she had taken >so i though okay, i better make sure it's gonna work. > >Test prints in CS6 resulted in horizontal banding. As I recall, I had >the same issue way back and tried troubleshooting it at the time and >gave up when offered a beer. I may have thrown the empty bottle at the >printer. > >Anyway, a nice A4 shot with plenty of textures and patterns came out >shit with loads of horizontal banding. > >Okay, nozzle check, one or two gaps here and there, cleaning cycles, >nozzles clear. Still banding. Next, head alignment, and another test >print. Still banding. Tried adjusting all sorts of settings in >Photoshop CS6 to no avail. Very slight colour overlapping resulting in >discreet but noticeable banding. > >Then I had a thought. > >I exported the image as a best quality largest size jpeg onto my >desktop and opened it in Preview (a Mac general purpose photo >viewer/editor, comes with the OS). > >I printed from that and NO BANDING. > >Anyone care to hazard a guess where I'm clearly being defeated by CS6 ? > >Thanks for all advice. > >-- > > >Cheers, > Cotty > > >___/\__UK Shoot / Edit and >|| (O) |Live Broadcast News >-- >_ > > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >follow the directions. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another Printer Question
Steve Cottrell wrote: >Hi PDML > >Well, I just nearly fell off my chair. So what else is new? >I have an Epson P50 printer, a few years old and been around the block now, >but it still works and the separate ink tanks I like, but generally I don't >print photos from it - it's just the House Printer. > >The Mrs announced she wanted some prints doing of photos she had taken so i >though okay, i better make sure it's gonna work. > >Test prints in CS6 resulted in horizontal banding. As I recall, I had the same >issue way back and tried troubleshooting it at the time and gave up when >offered a beer. I may have thrown the empty bottle at the printer. > >Anyway, a nice A4 shot with plenty of textures and patterns came out shit with >loads of horizontal banding. > >Okay, nozzle check, one or two gaps here and there, cleaning cycles, nozzles >clear. Still banding. Next, head alignment, and another test print. Still >banding. Tried adjusting all sorts of settings in Photoshop CS6 to no avail. >Very slight colour overlapping resulting in discreet but noticeable banding. > >Then I had a thought. > >I exported the image as a best quality largest size jpeg onto my desktop and >opened it in Preview (a Mac general purpose photo viewer/editor, comes with >the OS). > >I printed from that and NO BANDING. > >Anyone care to hazard a guess where I'm clearly being defeated by CS6 ? It's not a photograph of bands, is it? No? All right then. My best guess is that Photoshop is having some kind of disagreement with your printer driver. You should check that you have the latest driver for your printer and also see if Adobe issued any updates/patches for Photoshop CS6 that you haven't installed. If none of that works you could try re-sizing the image to the desired print dimensions at 720ppi output resolution (the native hardware resolution for Epsom printers). If none of those tricks works you'll probably have to either buy a new printer or print from an app other than Photoshop (which you're already doing). Nothing wrong with printing from a different application. I never print directly from Photoshop but use a printing-specific application called Qimage (sadly, not available for Mac AFAIK). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another Printer Question
On 2/7/19, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: >I dimly recall hearing that PS CS6 has some printing issues on first >release that were solved with later updates Interesting!! Will do some Googling, thanks mate. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__UK Shoot / Edit and || (O) |Live Broadcast News -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another Printer Question
On 2/7/19, John, discombobulated, unleashed: >Nope. Have a beer John. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__UK Shoot / Edit and || (O) |Live Broadcast News -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another Printer Question
I dimly recall hearing that PS CS6 has some printing issues on first release that were solved with later updates, but I've never upgraded past PS CS5.1. I haven't used even that in several years now, so it's going away when I buy a new Mac mini. G > On Jul 2, 2019, at 10:53 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > Hi PDML > > Well, I just nearly fell off my chair. > > I have an Epson P50 printer, a few years old and been around the block now, > but it still works and the separate ink tanks I like, but generally I don't > print photos from it - it's just the House Printer. > > The Mrs announced she wanted some prints doing of photos she had taken so i > though okay, i better make sure it's gonna work. > > Test prints in CS6 resulted in horizontal banding. As I recall, I had the > same issue way back and tried troubleshooting it at the time and gave up when > offered a beer. I may have thrown the empty bottle at the printer. > > Anyway, a nice A4 shot with plenty of textures and patterns came out shit > with loads of horizontal banding. > > Okay, nozzle check, one or two gaps here and there, cleaning cycles, nozzles > clear. Still banding. Next, head alignment, and another test print. Still > banding. Tried adjusting all sorts of settings in Photoshop CS6 to no avail. > Very slight colour overlapping resulting in discreet but noticeable banding. > > Then I had a thought. > > I exported the image as a best quality largest size jpeg onto my desktop and > opened it in Preview (a Mac general purpose photo viewer/editor, comes with > the OS). > > I printed from that and NO BANDING. > > Anyone care to hazard a guess where I'm clearly being defeated by CS6 ? > > Thanks for all advice. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another Printer Question
On 7/2/2019 13:53:22, Steve Cottrell wrote: Anyone care to hazard a guess where I'm clearly being defeated by CS6 ? Nope. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO 2019 - 067 - GDG
This is the parking garage at San Jose International Airport. The Guadalupe River Trail runs right next to it: I stopped to take this shot on Sunday while out on my bicycle ride. https://flic.kr/p/2gpDeZD Enjoy! G — The trouble with being punctual is that nobody's there to appreciate it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Another Printer Question
Hi PDML Well, I just nearly fell off my chair. I have an Epson P50 printer, a few years old and been around the block now, but it still works and the separate ink tanks I like, but generally I don't print photos from it - it's just the House Printer. The Mrs announced she wanted some prints doing of photos she had taken so i though okay, i better make sure it's gonna work. Test prints in CS6 resulted in horizontal banding. As I recall, I had the same issue way back and tried troubleshooting it at the time and gave up when offered a beer. I may have thrown the empty bottle at the printer. Anyway, a nice A4 shot with plenty of textures and patterns came out shit with loads of horizontal banding. Okay, nozzle check, one or two gaps here and there, cleaning cycles, nozzles clear. Still banding. Next, head alignment, and another test print. Still banding. Tried adjusting all sorts of settings in Photoshop CS6 to no avail. Very slight colour overlapping resulting in discreet but noticeable banding. Then I had a thought. I exported the image as a best quality largest size jpeg onto my desktop and opened it in Preview (a Mac general purpose photo viewer/editor, comes with the OS). I printed from that and NO BANDING. Anyone care to hazard a guess where I'm clearly being defeated by CS6 ? Thanks for all advice. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__UK Shoot / Edit and || (O) |Live Broadcast News -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Printer reccomendations
According to this article - tests done on the P600 by Red River Paper the ink used during black conversion is... * Matte to Photo Black approx. 3 ml * Photo to Matte Black approx. 1 ml Scroll about half way down the page... https://www.redrivercatalog.com/infocenter/articles/compare-epson-r2000-vs-epson-p600-which-to-purchase.html -p On 7/1/2019 7:10 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: You ask questions for which I can only conjecture, and I don't do that. I can only say for sure what the manual says. "EPSON P600 User Manual - page 137 Switching the Black Ink Type Switching the black ink type takes several minutes and consumes some ink in the process. Check the black ink type media list to select the correct type for the media you loaded. 1. Press the home button. 2. Press the black ink change button. 3. Select Proceed and select one of these types of black ink to switch to: • Photo Black to Matte Black—switching takes about 1.5 minutes • Matte Black to Photo Black—switching takes about 3.5 minutes" I would imagine that the two Black inks use the same feed lines in the head from this, and likely because of the added cost of doing independent feed lines (and whatever other complications that it might entail). But that's as far as I am willing to conjecture. I don't design this stuff, I use it. Far be it from me to tell the engineers how to do their job. I turned off autoswitching because I only rarely print on papers that don't take Matte Black ink and found that if I chose the wrong paper type at first then later changed to the correct paper type, the printer needlessly cycled back and forth wasting a lot of time and a bit of ink. G On Jul 1, 2019, at 3:16 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Godfrey, That information that the printer has an ink-changing cycle is interesting. But what is actually done during that cycle? I assumed that having both blacks simultaneously spares you from any ink waste, and what I am reading from your suggests (if I understood it correctly), that could be a wrong assumption. But I am still curious, - what do they actually do? Purge the nozzles from one black and initialize them with the other one? That would mean that despite having both black cartridges installed at the same time, they are multiplexing the head nozzles. But why? Why wouldn't they have separate sets of nozzles, just considering each black as a separate color (like they do for Light Black and Light-Light Black [LK and LLK])? Igor Godfrey DiGiorgi Sun, 30 Jun 2019 18:14:15 -0700 wrote: BTW: the P600 ink tanks are much larger than R2400 and R2880. They're up in the 20-25 ml range. And the Photo Black and Matte Black inks are installed simultaneously … the printer will even change ink mode automatically based upon the paper you select, if you enable that option. (I don't, because it means more possibilities of an ink change cycle which takes time and costs ink.) I've found the P600's ink tanks and general economy in printing reduce the per print cost quite significantly over the R2400. -- Paul Sorenson Studio1941 Sooner or later "different" scares people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Another one from New Hampshire
A more conventional, slow-shutter-speed water shot, but I really like the composition and lighting on this one. http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e301502.jpg -- Mark Roberts - Photography and Multimedia www.robertstech.com 617-522-0174 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Well that was interesting.
John wrote: > I did receive an email the other day from a "Mr Ali Temel, ... the Executive > Human Resources of Garanti Bank of Turkey" who wanted me to assist him in > stealing [1] funds from an unclaimed account at his bank. > > *You can't cheat an honest man.* > [1] He didn't call it "stealing", but that's what it amounts to, an invitation > to participate in theft by defrauding his "employer". A few years back Scotland Yard reportedly asked Nigerian police for help nailing a scammer there who had defrauded an Englishman. The Nigerians replied that they were not willing to take up the case until charges were laid against the Englishman. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Printer reccomendations
On 1/7/19, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: >You ask questions for which I can only conjecture, and I don't do that. Gotta be a MARK ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__UK Shoot / Edit and || (O) |Live Broadcast News -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
