Re: Using 1.4 converter on DFA 150-450. Worth it ?

[Jan van Wijk]

OK, thanks Paul!

On Thu, 5 Sep 2019 11:03:55 -0400 Paul Stenquist wrote:
>
>Almost all of the pics in this gallery were shot with the D FA 150-450 and DA 
>1.4X converter: 
https://www.photo.net/gallery/1091927#//Sort-Newest/All-Categories/All-Time/Page-1

Think I have seen a few of them before, but they are great indeed!

This lens (with converter I guess) is going to replace the BIGMA (50-500)
with image-stabilization built-in.

I am counting on the Pentax being sharper, and image stabilization in the body 
on-par with what the Sigma lens could do ...

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Re:

[Steve Cottrell]

On 5/9/19, Bob Pdml, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Tell you what, you ride it along the Thames in this direction, I'll ride
>my bike in your direction, we meet in the middle and up a swan or two.

Hang on - breaking myself in gently old boy!!

This old boy isn't used to having a narrow black supposedly soft thing parting 
his butt-cheeks courtesy of the shit-eating potholes rife in Oxfordshire!!

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Re:

[Bob Pdml]

> On 5 Sep 2019, at 21:57, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> On 5/9/19, Bob Pdml, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>>> https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48625474017_8258d4fa1d_c.jpg
>>> 
>> 
>> Looking remarkably sylphy there, Godfrey. New bike?
> 
> Brilliant.
> 
> I may have just bought a Brompton, by the way..

Tell you what, you ride it along the Thames in this direction, I'll ride my 
bike in your direction, we meet in the middle and up a swan or two.

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Re: Printing

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

> On Sep 5, 2019, at 1:41 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
> Thanks again, Godfrey.

My pleasure. 

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re: sylphy & Brommie

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

> From: "Steve Cottrell" 
> On 5/9/19, Bob Pdml, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>>> https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48625474017_8258d4fa1d_c.jpg
>>> 
>> Looking remarkably sylphy there, Godfrey. New bike?
> 
> Brilliant.
> I may have just bought a Brompton, by the way..

Thank you both! 

Brommies are damn cool bicycles!! 

No, it's not new. I've had the Brompton since about 2012 or so. I bought it for 
a specific purpose, which didn't really work out. At that time, I bought it to 
be able to shunt from one bit of office buildings to another at work when I had 
meetings all over the place … driving to and fro, parking, etc, was consuming 
too much of the day. So I used it for that a couple of times … but at that time 
it was so painful to ride (because of my hip, et al), I just parked it in the 
closet and didn't use it. 

When my daily ride now was in the shop waiting for wheel bearings a few weeks 
back, I took the Brompton out and rediscovered it. My strength and riding 
skills have improved so much now that I did a 15 mile runaround to San Jose and 
back with it, no problem at all, and enjoyed every minute on it. 

Just FYI, I took this photo by setting up the iPhone 8 Plus on a table top 
tripod, fitting the Moment 18mm accessory lens, and using the Moment Bluetooth 
remote to trigger the shutter. It's at ISO 25 and is incredibly sharp … I think 
a 13x13 inch print is a conservative estimate of how large a print I can make 
of it, if I chose to. It's just the largest I can print on my Epson P600 in a 
square print. :-)

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Re:

[Steve Cottrell]

On 5/9/19, Bob Pdml, discombobulated, unleashed:

>> https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48625474017_8258d4fa1d_c.jpg
>> 
>
>Looking remarkably sylphy there, Godfrey. New bike?

Brilliant.

I may have just bought a Brompton, by the way..

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Re: mini-PDML meeting in Amsterdam

[Steve Cottrell]

On 5/9/19, Henk Terhell, discombobulated, unleashed:

>We had an enjoyable lunch today with Stan and Meg in the restaurant of 
>the Amsterdam Central Library. They arrived this week in Amsterdam for 
>their trip.
>I admired his A 20/2.8 on the K-1.
>A lesson learned is that AF is useless if not properly set, as you can 
>see from the selfie I took with the remote control in my hand.
>I had as usual my K-1 in spot focus so as a result we are all a bit out 
>of focus here:
>https://www.flickr.com/gp/mxer/6bnvgg

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Re: September PUG

[Steve Cottrell]

On 5/9/19, Patrick Temmerman, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Thanks for the comments! And, Dan, you can add Scotland to your list of
>contributing countries.

Goodness, who let a Scot onto the list ;-)

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Re: Printing

[Eric Weir]

> On Sep 5, 2019, at 12:07 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
>>> On Sep 5, 2019, at 8:57 AM, Eric Weir  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What determines the size of the image I get with my camera, i.e., my phone? 
>>> Is it always the same? Is iso a factor?
>> 
>> The number of pixels in a full frame capture will always be the same.
> 
> ... ISO will affect how much noise is apparent in the image. With the teensy 
> little sensors in a phone camera, the lower the ISO the better the noise 
> behavior and the better the tonal scale. With camera apps that allow you to 
> control ISO on the iPhone. It's best for good photos to keep the ISO under 
> 100 whenever you can. 
> 
> But of course, too long an exposure can cause camera movement which also 
> kills image quality. So you have to work to the limits of the device's 
> capabilities. :-)

Thanks again, Godfrey.

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Re: Printing

[Eric Weir]

> On Sep 5, 2019, at 12:01 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
>> On Sep 5, 2019, at 8:08 AM, Eric Weir  wrote:
>> 
>> The camera was my phone, an iPhone 6s. The 72 dpi/ppi result was with iso at 
>> 25. Is what I should expect? Will I ever be able to get good large prints 
>> with this camera?
> 
> An iPhone 6s image at ISO 25, presuming a good exposure with the camera held 
> steadily enough, can net a beautiful print to the limits of the number of 
> pixels. 

Thanks.

> For instance, this is made with an iPhone 8 Plus (similar number of pixels) 
> and prints to a beautiful 13x13 inch print, or maybe larger: 
> 
> https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48625474017_8258d4fa1d_c.jpg

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Re: Printing

[Eric Weir]

> On Sep 5, 2019, at 11:58 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> On Sep 5, 2019, at 8:08 AM, Eric Weir  wrote:
>> 
>> So now two questions: (1) My image is 72 dpi/ppi, far short of 240 dpi/ppi. 
>> What can I do with that, i.e., what’s the largest print I could get? (2) The 
>> camera was my phone, an iPhone 6s. The 72 dpi/ppi result was with iso at 25. 
>> Is what I should expect? Will I ever be able to get good large prints with 
>> this camera?
> 
> Where are you obtaining the 72 ppi number from? Probably the display you're 
> looking at. :-)
> 
> When it comes to printing and sizing an image, the number of pixels is 
> everything. If you want to find out how large an image area can be printed at 
> a reasonable quality, divide the horizontal and vertical dimensions by 240 to 
> give a dimension in inches. 
> 
> For instance, say you have a 2400 x 4800 pixel image. Divide by 240 nets a 10 
> x 20 inch print. :-)
> 
> Ja? 

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Re:

[Bob Pdml]

> 
> An iPhone 6s image at ISO 25, presuming a good exposure with the camera held 
> steadily enough, can net a beautiful print to the limits of the number of 
> pixels. 
> 
> For instance, this is made with an iPhone 8 Plus (similar number of pixels) 
> and prints to a beautiful 13x13 inch print, or maybe larger: 
> 
> https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48625474017_8258d4fa1d_c.jpg
> 

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Re: September PUG is up

[P. J. Alling]

This doesn't have much to add to location, but it seems to be the 
appropriate place to compared to anywhere else to add this comment.


The range of equipment is quite varied, but there seems to be a 
preponderance of K-5 variants, seven in fact, with the K-1 following 
with three,  two *ist-D cameras, and then one each of everything else used.


On 9/5/2019 12:41 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I agree with Ken.  We are all indebted to Brian for all his hard work and
skill on our behalf!

I also agree that this large gallery is also one of the best ever.  There
are many strong images, and a lot of artistic compositions.  What also
impresses me is the geographic distribution included in this PUG:
Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Canada, Alaska, Florida, California,
Maine, Connecticut, Michigan, North Carolina, two Hawaiian Islands, Norway,
England, France, Netherlands, Germany, Greece, and Crete.  Wow!

My personal favorites are Henk's "Lonely Rider" and Ralf's "Kitsch."
Dan Matyola
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On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 11:39 PM Ken Waller  wrote:


Thanks once again Brian for all the time and effort you expend in putting
out the monthly PUG.

A lot of good images in this months edition, but I especially like Larry's
Natural Bridge's at night and Pat Timmerman's Sky Above, Sea Below.

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mini-PDML meeting in Amsterdam

[Henk Terhell]

We had an enjoyable lunch today with Stan and Meg in the restaurant of 
the Amsterdam Central Library. They arrived this week in Amsterdam for 
their trip.

I admired his A 20/2.8 on the K-1.
A lesson learned is that AF is useless if not properly set, as you can 
see from the selfie I took with the remote control in my hand.
I had as usual my K-1 in spot focus so as a result we are all a bit out 
of focus here:

https://www.flickr.com/gp/mxer/6bnvgg

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Re: The kitty, she is empty

[Stan Halpin]

Sent from my iPad

> Subject: Re: The kitty, she is empty
>>> ?
>> 
>> -- 
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Been there done that. And if you keep doing your thing Doug, I’ll keep on doing 
mine.
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Re: The kitty, she is empty

[Ken Waller]

Done.

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Subject: Re: The kitty, she is empty



On 3/9/19, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:


Link?




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Re: Printing

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

>> On Sep 5, 2019, at 8:57 AM, Eric Weir  wrote:
>> 
>> What determines the size of the image I get with my camera, i.e., my phone? 
>> Is it always the same? Is iso a factor?
> 
> The number of pixels in a full frame capture will always be the same.

... ISO will affect how much noise is apparent in the image. With the teensy 
little sensors in a phone camera, the lower the ISO the better the noise 
behavior and the better the tonal scale. With camera apps that allow you to 
control ISO on the iPhone. It's best for good photos to keep the ISO under 100 
whenever you can. 

But of course, too long an exposure can cause camera movement which also kills 
image quality. So you have to work to the limits of the device's capabilities. 
:-)

G

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Re: Printing

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

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> On Sep 5, 2019, at 8:57 AM, Eric Weir  wrote:
> 
> What determines the size of the image I get with my camera, i.e., my phone? 
> Is it always the same? Is iso a factor?

The number of pixels in a full frame capture will always be the same. 

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Re: Printing

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

> On Sep 5, 2019, at 8:08 AM, Eric Weir  wrote:
> 
> The camera was my phone, an iPhone 6s. The 72 dpi/ppi result was with iso at 
> 25. Is what I should expect? Will I ever be able to get good large prints 
> with this camera?

An iPhone 6s image at ISO 25, presuming a good exposure with the camera held 
steadily enough, can net a beautiful print to the limits of the number of 
pixels. 

For instance, this is made with an iPhone 8 Plus (similar number of pixels) and 
prints to a beautiful 13x13 inch print, or maybe larger: 

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48625474017_8258d4fa1d_c.jpg

G

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Re: Printing

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Sep 5, 2019, at 8:08 AM, Eric Weir  wrote:
> 
> So now two questions: (1) My image is 72 dpi/ppi, far short of 240 dpi/ppi. 
> What can I do with that, i.e., what’s the largest print I could get? (2) The 
> camera was my phone, an iPhone 6s. The 72 dpi/ppi result was with iso at 25. 
> Is what I should expect? Will I ever be able to get good large prints with 
> this camera?

Where are you obtaining the 72 ppi number from? Probably the display you're 
looking at. :-)

When it comes to printing and sizing an image, the number of pixels is 
everything. If you want to find out how large an image area can be printed at a 
reasonable quality, divide the horizontal and vertical dimensions by 240 to 
give a dimension in inches. 

For instance, say you have a 2400 x 4800 pixel image. Divide by 240 nets a 10 x 
20 inch print. :-)

Ja? 

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Re: Printing

[Eric Weir]

> On Sep 5, 2019, at 11:50 AM, John  wrote:
> 
> On 9/5/2019 11:08:33, Eric Weir wrote:
>> 
>> So now two questions: (1) My image is 72 dpi/ppi, far short of 240 dpi/ppi.
>> What can I do with that, i.e., what’s the largest print I could get? (2) The
>> camera was my phone, an iPhone 6s. The 72 dpi/ppi result was with iso at 25.
>> Is what I should expect? Will I ever be able to get good large prints with
>> this camera?
> 
> No, your image is 4032 x 2268 pixels.
> 
> 72 dpi is the display resolution. Has nothing to do with printing.
> 
> Printed at 240 ppi, 4032 x 2268 pixels will give a print 16.8" x 9.45".
> 
> A good "printer" (i.e. service bureau like Bay Photo) can probably work with 
> 200 ppi to give you a print up to 20.16" x 11.34" which could be cropped to 
> the 20x10 print you wanted.
> 
> ... although the guy in the back actually doing the printing is probably 
> going to call you bad names. They much prefer at least 300 ppi.
> 
> But, when I was running the mini-lab I could get an "acceptable" result with 
> as little as 150 ppi (C-type on Kodak Endura glossy paper).

OK, now I understand. (I think.) One last question. (I hope.) What determines 
the size of the image I get with my camera, i.e., my phone? Is it always the 
same? Is iso a factor?

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Re: Printing

[Eric Weir]

> On Sep 4, 2019, at 10:32 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> Generally, "72 dpi" is screen resolution. You don't want to print at "72 dpi" 
> because it will look like crap.
> 
> At the 240ppi Godfrey mentioned 4032 x 2268 pixels gives you 16.8 x 9.45 
> inches.
> 
> To get a 20" wide print, 4032 pixels is going to give you around "201 ppi", 
> suggesting a crop to 2016 pixels high (for a 10 x 20 print).
> 
> A good "printer" should be able to give you an adequate 10x20 C-Type print if 
> the JPEG quality is high enough (2.5MB file size suggests it might be just 
> barely), although you're going to have to crop it to get that aspect ratio.

Thanks, John. I’m confused. Not that you’re confusing, just that the limits of 
my knowledge are again being tested. So the 72 dpi figure has nothing to do 
with the size of print that can be obtained? The latter is a function of the 
available pixels and the dimensions of the print? 

In your third paragraph I don’t understand “suggesting a crop to 2016 pixels 
high (for a 10 x 20 print).” I can increase the ppi for a given dimension of 
print, e.g., 10 x 20, by cropping the image? My assumption would be that the 
only way to increase the ppi would be to reduce the size of the print.

Your last paragraph: You think I can get a decent 10 x 20 print from the image 
I described?

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Re: Printing

[John]

On 9/5/2019 11:08:33, Eric Weir wrote:



On Sep 4, 2019, at 5:52 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi 
wrote:

Can’t give you much advice on print services since I always do my own
prints. But be aware that that pixel count on the long edge nets a max
print area length of about 17” @ 240ppi which is as low as I’d want to go
for best detail on a landscape shot like that.


I have never printed a single photo. I'd like to give it a try. With this
image, just as a test:

It’s 2.5 MB, 4032 x 2268 pixels


So now two questions: (1) My image is 72 dpi/ppi, far short of 240 dpi/ppi.
What can I do with that, i.e., what’s the largest print I could get? (2) The
camera was my phone, an iPhone 6s. The 72 dpi/ppi result was with iso at 25.
Is what I should expect? Will I ever be able to get good large prints with
this camera?



No, your image is 4032 x 2268 pixels.

72 dpi is the display resolution. Has nothing to do with printing.

Printed at 240 ppi, 4032 x 2268 pixels will give a print 16.8" x 9.45".

A good "printer" (i.e. service bureau like Bay Photo) can probably work with 200 
ppi to give you a print up to 20.16" x 11.34" which could be cropped to the 
20x10 print you wanted.


... although the guy in the back actually doing the printing is probably going 
to call you bad names. They much prefer at least 300 ppi.


But, when I was running the mini-lab I could get an "acceptable" result with as 
little as 150 ppi (C-type on Kodak Endura glossy paper).


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Re: Printing

[Eric Weir]

> On Sep 5, 2019, at 1:09 AM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
> 
> Check prices, there may not be any reason other than convenience to use 
> Flickr rather than Bay directly.  Download the bay roes software and process 
> your photos specifically for printing. 

Thanks again, Larry. I did a superficial check of Bay. It seemed a little more 
complicated than going through Flickr. But as I say, based on a superficial 
comparison.

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Re: Printing

[John]

When I was running the mini-lab, about the lowest I could go & still give the 
customer an acceptable print was 150 ppi/dpi.


And the customer's just didn't want to hear it.

"But it looks great on my phone/camera/fakebook/AOL ... Why can't you print it 
so it looks like that?"


On 9/4/2019 22:39:07, Doug Franklin wrote:
I haven't posted to the group in several years, but I've been following.  On 
this topic, maybe I have some information to offer.  I recently had reason to 
try the "Fracture" service that most of you (in North America, at least) have 
probably already seen advertised (https://fractureme.com).  I had reason 
recently to try them out. Unfortunately, the original I had to work with was 
less than optimal. The best I could do after cropping was about 6" x 8" at 100 
dpi.  I must say that I was impressed with what they were able to do with that.  
I'm not sure I could've done better with a local high quality photo printer on 
paper.  I'm looking forward to trying them again with a better (higher 
resolution) original.  I will admit that ICC profiles weren't an issue for that 
print (I didn't have them), but (a) the result was as color correct as I 
could've asked, lacking the profile and (b) it will be something I'm looking 
hard at on the next one.  But there will definitely be more.  From my limited 
test, 9/10, would buy again.


On 2019-09-04 16:40, Ken Waller wrote:

Eric, as I’ve posted here before, I’ve had very good results with Bay Photo.
They’ve done everything from 4 X 6 inch up to 2 X 3 feet prints on paper, 
canvas and metal for me and I have nothing but good things to say about them.
They will offer discounts (usually 20% off) from time to time when you get on 
their mail list. You use their software to upload your file and pick the 
numerous options available.


-Original Message-

From: Eric Weir 
Subject: Printing


I have never printed a single photo. I'd like to give it a try. With this 
image, just as a test: 
 
It’s 2.5 MB, 4032 x 2268 pixels


I’ve checked out printing services via this review: 
 
AdoramaPix and Nations Photo Lab appealed. But I see printing is now 
available via Flickr. Thought I’d give it a try.


Wondering about a 10 x 20 or 12 x 24 paper print, lustre finish. With an 
image this size, what do you think?


Also interested in comparison of Flickr to other printing services, e.g., 
AdoramaPix, Nations Photo Lab, or other.


Thanks,
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Re: Printing

[Eric Weir]

> On Sep 4, 2019, at 5:52 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> Can’t give you much advice on print services since I always do my own prints. 
> But be aware that that pixel count on the long edge nets a max print area 
> length of about 17” @ 240ppi which is as low as I’d want to go for best 
> detail on a landscape shot like that.
> 
>> I have never printed a single photo. I'd like to give it a try. With this 
>> image, just as a test: 
>> 
>>  It’s 2.5 MB, 4032 x 2268 pixels

So now two questions: (1) My image is 72 dpi/ppi, far short of 240 dpi/ppi. 
What can I do with that, i.e., what’s the largest print I could get? (2) The 
camera was my phone, an iPhone 6s. The 72 dpi/ppi result was with iso at 25. Is 
what I should expect? Will I ever be able to get good large prints with this 
camera?

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Re: Using 1.4 converter on DFA 150-450. Worth it ?

[Paul Stenquist]

Almost all of the pics in this gallery were shot with the D FA 150-450 and DA 
1.4X converter: 
https://www.photo.net/gallery/1091927#//Sort-Newest/All-Categories/All-Time/Page-1

> On Sep 5, 2019, at 7:38 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Most of my bird photos are shot with the 150-450 and the 1.4X converter. It’s 
> a great combo. I get a little bit of vignetting in the corners but usually 
> crop it out. If I need the full frame, it’s easily fixed.
> 
> Paul
> 
>> On Sep 5, 2019, at 6:21 AM, Jan van Wijk  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, could use some feedback here ...
>> 
>> After studying the Micro Four Thirds system for several months, intending
>> to add a Panasonic G9 (same battery as K1 !) or Olympus E M1 II body with
>> a few long lenses like the Pana-Leica 100-400mm for better (action) 
>> focussing 
>> and lower overall weight, I am reconsidering.
>> 
>> The culprit was getting the DFA 15-30mm for the K1, which is so mind-blowing
>> good that I am now looking into just completing the focal-length range for 
>> the K1
>> with the latest quality stuff instead of switching to, or adding another 
>> system.
>> 
>> So I see the DFA 24-70 and 150-450mm somewhere in my future as well ...
>> 
>> 
>> So much for the smal talk, the question is, is the latest Pentax 1.4 
>> converter
>> worth its price when used with teh DFA 140-450mm ?
>> 
>> I mean instead of simply cropping the 36MP image in post ...
>> 
>> I think I remember Paul and perhaps other posting about this combo,
>> and may try to look up those posts too, but I wuld like some fresh
>> input when possible :)
>> 
>> Thanks in advance ...
>> 
>> Regards, JvW
>> 
>> --
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>> Flickr : jvw_pentax
>> 
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Re: Printing

[Eric Weir]

> On Sep 4, 2019, at 10:39 PM, Doug Franklin  wrote:
> 
> I haven't posted to the group in several years, but I've been following.  On 
> this topic, maybe I have some information to offer.  I recently had reason to 
> try the "Fracture" service that most of you (in North America, at least) have 
> probably already seen advertised (https://fractureme.com).  I had reason 
> recently to try them out. Unfortunately, the original I had to work with was 
> less than optimal. The best I could do after cropping was about 6" x 8" at 
> 100 dpi.  I must say that I was impressed with what they were able to do with 
> that.  I'm not sure I could've done better with a local high quality photo 
> printer on paper.  I'm looking forward to trying them again with a better 
> (higher resolution) original.  I will admit that ICC profiles weren't an 
> issue for that print (I didn't have them), but (a) the result was as color 
> correct as I could've asked, lacking the profile and (b) it will be something 
> I'm looking hard at on the next one.  But there will definitely be more.  
> From my limited test, 9/10, would buy again.

Thanks, Doug. I checked it out. Seems they print only on glass and 
significantly costlier than other options. Or am I mistaken.

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Re: The kitty, she is empty

[Otis Wright]

Done

On Tue, 3 Sep 2019 00:43:30 -0400 Doug Brewer wrote:

hi, kids. Please consider throwing some spare dinera into the kitty so we can 
continue to wonder what the hell Bill's on about now.


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Re: September PUG is up

[ann sanfedele]

I agree it is a really lovely gallery... my personal fave is Brian's  
"Eruption"  reminds me of a Winslow Homer painting..


Dan,  taken in Ft Walton Beach. My nephew was a retired Air force major 
and he and his wife  lived there for many years.. I visited in November 
of 2001 for
Thanksgiving.   We took a stroll pretty close to their home at dusk.  I 
stopped their on my return road trip route from the west - which had 
been planned before that awful day in Sept but extended because of it.


BTW your submission certainly falls into the category in my mind since 
it is clear it is the ocean and the sea to beach ratio is good ;-)


The last time I had been to the gulf coast previous to that trip was in 
April of 1945.   (Not counting one short visit to New Orleans for the 
2004 National Scrabble Championship)


Ann


On 9/5/2019 12:43 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
Ann, where on the Panhandle was your seascape taken?  I visited most 
of the beaches there back in the mid 1960s.  


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On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 12:16 AM Brian W > wrote:


G'day all

View the September gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

Our largest gallery for some time!

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous
gallery there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in
the gallery,
let me know.

+

Next up: 'Silhouette'.

Full Submissions Guidelines here:

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Cheers
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September PUG

[Patrick Temmerman]

Thanks for the comments! And, Dan, you can add Scotland to your list of 
contributing countries.
Pat

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Re: Using 1.4 converter on DFA 150-450. Worth it ?

[Paul Stenquist]

Most of my bird photos are shot with the 150-450 and the 1.4X converter. It’s a 
great combo. I get a little bit of vignetting in the corners but usually crop 
it out. If I need the full frame, it’s easily fixed.

Paul

> On Sep 5, 2019, at 6:21 AM, Jan van Wijk  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, could use some feedback here ...
> 
> After studying the Micro Four Thirds system for several months, intending
> to add a Panasonic G9 (same battery as K1 !) or Olympus E M1 II body with
> a few long lenses like the Pana-Leica 100-400mm for better (action) focussing 
> and lower overall weight, I am reconsidering.
> 
> The culprit was getting the DFA 15-30mm for the K1, which is so mind-blowing
> good that I am now looking into just completing the focal-length range for 
> the K1
> with the latest quality stuff instead of switching to, or adding another 
> system.
> 
> So I see the DFA 24-70 and 150-450mm somewhere in my future as well ...
> 
> 
> So much for the smal talk, the question is, is the latest Pentax 1.4 converter
> worth its price when used with teh DFA 140-450mm ?
> 
> I mean instead of simply cropping the 36MP image in post ...
> 
> I think I remember Paul and perhaps other posting about this combo,
> and may try to look up those posts too, but I wuld like some fresh
> input when possible :)
> 
> Thanks in advance ...
> 
> Regards, JvW
> 
> --
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> Flickr : jvw_pentax
> 
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Using 1.4 converter on DFA 150-450. Worth it ?

[Jan van Wijk]

Hi all, could use some feedback here ...

After studying the Micro Four Thirds system for several months, intending
to add a Panasonic G9 (same battery as K1 !) or Olympus E M1 II body with
a few long lenses like the Pana-Leica 100-400mm for better (action) focussing 
and lower overall weight, I am reconsidering.

The culprit was getting the DFA 15-30mm for the K1, which is so mind-blowing
good that I am now looking into just completing the focal-length range for the 
K1
with the latest quality stuff instead of switching to, or adding another system.

So I see the DFA 24-70 and 150-450mm somewhere in my future as well ...


So much for the smal talk, the question is, is the latest Pentax 1.4 converter
worth its price when used with teh DFA 140-450mm ?

I mean instead of simply cropping the 36MP image in post ...

I think I remember Paul and perhaps other posting about this combo,
and may try to look up those posts too, but I wuld like some fresh
input when possible :)

Thanks in advance ...

Regards, JvW

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Re: The kitty, she is empty

[Jan van Wijk]

On Tue, 3 Sep 2019 00:43:30 -0400 Doug Brewer wrote:
>
>hi, kids. Please consider throwing some spare dinera into the kitty so we can 
>continue to wonder what the hell Bill's on about now.

Done!

Regards, JvW


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Re: September PUG is up

[Larry Colen]

Ken,
Thanks for the compliment.


Ken Waller wrote on 9/4/19 8:38 PM:
Thanks once again Brian for all the time and effort you expend in 
putting out the monthly PUG.


A lot of good images in this months edition, but I especially like 
Larry's Natural Bridge's at night and Pat Timmerman's Sky Above, Sea Below.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: "Brian W" 
Subject: September PUG is up



G'day all

View the September gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

Our largest gallery for some time!

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery 
there).


Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the 
gallery,

let me know.

+

Next up: 'Silhouette'.

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Cheers
Brian
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