Re: October PUG Countdown

[Jan van Wijk]

I actually had an image in my mind for this PUG, and finally had the time and 
opportunity yesterday
to drive out there and make the shot with the K1 and the old (but compact!) FA 
400mm

So mine is in as well now!

Regards, JvW

On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 14:24:57 -0400 P. J. Alling wrote:
>
>I got mine in ahead of time for a change.
>
>On 9/26/2019 5:47 PM, Brian W wrote:
>>G'day all
>>
>>Sorry - a bit late with this memory-jogger this month.
>>
>>A couple of submissions so far.
>>
>>Theme: "Silhouette".
>>
>>Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
>>
>>Submission Guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
>>
>>Cheers
>>Brian
>>
>>++
>>Brian Walters
>>Western Sydney Australia
>>http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
>>https://500px.com/supera1000/galleries
>>

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Re: Peso: The photographer

[ann sanfedele]

thanks every one for kudos and other comments - glad I woke y'all up :-)

as to the dinky camera... I suspect someone (or many but me) recognize 
the camera as one that is in fact a classy one.


as to looking like Spike Lee -- Dang, he really does.. in the face.. but 
this guy in my photo stood up shortly after I took that shot and

he's a lot taller than Spike.

ann

On 10/2/2019 4:52 PM, Bob Pdml wrote:

He can't be a real photographer with a dinky little toy camera like that.


On 2 Oct 2019, at 13:03, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Thanks Paul and Ken :-)

ann


On 10/1/2019 11:03 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
Very creative.Well done!

Paul


On Oct 1, 2019, at 9:37 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

a beautiful day in NYC - I brought my little P&S with me when meeting friends 
and by gum I did a bit of quick grab shooting... here is one.

https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2017-2018snaps/i-LL3FRVc/A

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Re: High ISO questions

[John]

Images at ISO 204800 tend to be a bit noisy.

On 10/2/2019 20:16:55, Larry Colen wrote:

There were recently some questions about high ISO on the K-1
I was just going through some photos and noticed that this one is ISO 20,000
http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/48795612116/

this one is 16,000
http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/48795751847/

Just as data points for setting your own ISO.




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Re: Pentax Photo Gallery

[John]

Just a SWAG, but maybe they won't let you delete a lens from your gear list if 
that lens was used on one of the photos that are already in your gallery. You 
still "own" it as long as an image made with it is in your gallery.


Can you delete images from your own gallery?

On 10/2/2019 22:30:59, Subash Jeyan wrote:

except for a couple of things, more or less in line with my experience.

i actually deleted my account a couple of years back but i got an email
sometime last week whether i would like to revive the account... and i
did. but apparently, delete doesn't mean delete

the photos which were waiting to be approved, about 4, when i deleted
it are still waiting to be approved.

i don't have some of the lenses anymore and i have acquired new lenses.
but, apparently, when one edits one's gear in 'my profile, it doesn't
make a difference. it still shows the old gear even after one has
deleted them though the new gear added shows up.


~subash
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On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 09:59:21 -0400
"Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:


A few updated comments on the PPG:

1.  Voting.  I am spending as much time voting as possible, but the
backlog appears infinite.  I think some of the images have come
around for a second time, and I try to skip over those the second
time.  There were quite a few new ones this morning, however.

2.  Uploads.  The upload system is working quite well, although,
despite the instructions, it allowed me to upload more than five
right at the start.

3.  Approvals/Rejections.  I have not had any of my images uploaded
last year approved or rejected since the system went back up.  Has
anyone else had any images processed and approved or rejected?

4.  Order of images.  Until yesterday, all the images in my gallery
were sorted with the oldest image first.  This made it extremely
difficult to tell im any were approved, as I had to scroll all the
way down.  Now, the most recent images are at the head of each queue.
  This is much more convenient.

5.  Premiere Collection.  There have been no additions to this
excellent gallery of images since the gallery became active again.

Anyone else have any comments or recent experiences to share?

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Re: Pentax Photo Gallery

[Larry Colen]

> On Oct 3, 2019, at 12:10 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> Just a SWAG, but maybe they won't let you delete a lens from your gear list 
> if that lens was used on one of the photos that are already in your gallery. 
> You still "own" it as long as an image made with it is in your gallery.

It is also possible that their web design team isn’t quite as competent as 
their camera marketing team.


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Re: High ISO questions

[Larry Colen]

> On Oct 3, 2019, at 12:04 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> Images at ISO 204800 tend to be a bit noisy.

Yes, there is no question of that, but this gives a feel for how noisy.  By the 
same token 200mm shots hand held slower than 1/60 second, or any shots of a 
musician shot at slower than 1/60 tend to be a bit blurry.  It’s a question of 
making the best of a bad situation and what side of the exposure triangle do 
you push harder on.  I figure that with digital I have very little to lose by 
trying for the shots, even if none turn out.  Worst case I waste a dime’s worth 
of hard drive after a night’s shooting, best case I get a keeper shot.

One thing I noticed many years ago is that if you convert a noisy digital shot 
to black and white, the noise gives a retro high ISO film feel.

Here’s the same frame processed in black and white
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/48795253708/in/album-72157711063469821/

To my eye the noise is about the same as the grain in plus-X, not even Tri-X.  

Is that frame technically strong enough for me to print out? Not really, and I 
almost certainly wouldn’t hang it on my wall.  However, for a lot of subjects, 
that might be the cleanest photo they have of them doing whatever they love, 
because things like dancing or playing music tend to happen in really crappy 
light.

If I compare this with shots I took with my K100, I would guess it closer to 
ISO 800 than 20,000.


> 
> On 10/2/2019 20:16:55, Larry Colen wrote:
>> There were recently some questions about high ISO on the K-1
>> I was just going through some photos and noticed that this one is ISO 20,000
>> http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/48795612116/
>> this one is 16,000
>> http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/48795751847/
>> Just as data points for setting your own ISO.
> 

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Re: Pentax Photo Gallery - Revived?

[Jan van Wijk]

Hmm, not familiar with the new layout there yet.

On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 16:38:33 -0400 Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
>I know not everyone on this list likes and uses the gallery, but it is
>another resource, and can be useful.  I think if everyone votes on
>submissions and submits a few nes images, that will let Ricoh know that
>there is an active community out here, not only for the PPG, but also for
>new Pentax offerings.

Any hints appreciated :)

Regards, JvW

PS:
I also see they have a weekly photo-contents now, this week being 
sunrise/sunset ...

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Re: Pentax Photo Gallery

[John]

On 10/3/2019 15:42:05, Larry Colen wrote:



On Oct 3, 2019, at 12:10 PM, John  wrote:

Just a SWAG, but maybe they won't let you delete a lens from your gear list if that lens 
was used on one of the photos that are already in your gallery. You still "own" 
it as long as an image made with it is in your gallery.


It is also possible that their web design team isn’t quite as competent as 
their camera marketing team.



Hah!


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Re: High ISO questions

[John]

Better aim low boys, they're riding Shetland Ponies.

On 10/3/2019 15:45:41, Larry Colen wrote:



On Oct 3, 2019, at 12:04 PM, John  wrote:

Images at ISO 204800 tend to be a bit noisy.


Yes, there is no question of that, but this gives a feel for how noisy.  By the 
same token 200mm shots hand held slower than 1/60 second, or any shots of a 
musician shot at slower than 1/60 tend to be a bit blurry.  It’s a question of 
making the best of a bad situation and what side of the exposure triangle do 
you push harder on.  I figure that with digital I have very little to lose by 
trying for the shots, even if none turn out.  Worst case I waste a dime’s worth 
of hard drive after a night’s shooting, best case I get a keeper shot.

One thing I noticed many years ago is that if you convert a noisy digital shot 
to black and white, the noise gives a retro high ISO film feel.

Here’s the same frame processed in black and white
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/48795253708/in/album-72157711063469821/

To my eye the noise is about the same as the grain in plus-X, not even Tri-X.

Is that frame technically strong enough for me to print out? Not really, and I 
almost certainly wouldn’t hang it on my wall.  However, for a lot of subjects, 
that might be the cleanest photo they have of them doing whatever they love, 
because things like dancing or playing music tend to happen in really crappy 
light.

If I compare this with shots I took with my K100, I would guess it closer to 
ISO 800 than 20,000.




On 10/2/2019 20:16:55, Larry Colen wrote:

There were recently some questions about high ISO on the K-1
I was just going through some photos and noticed that this one is ISO 20,000
http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/48795612116/
this one is 16,000
http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/48795751847/
Just as data points for setting your own ISO.




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VESO 2019 - deadmau5 Cube V3, Hollywood - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I had way way too much fun last week in Los Angeles … 
A video I put together, catching highlights of the concert I went to in 
Hollywood. 

  https://youtu.be/XbpYXP78B74

Rave on!

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Re: Pentax Photo Gallery

[Subash Jeyan]

On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 15:10:27 -0400
John  wrote:

> Just a SWAG, but maybe they won't let you delete a lens from your
> gear list if that lens was used on one of the photos that are already
> in your gallery. You still "own" it as long as an image made with it
> is in your gallery.

no. it won't let me delete lenses which haven't contributed to my
gallery and which are just a part of the gear list

> Can you delete images from your own gallery?

i suppose so.

> 
> On 10/2/2019 22:30:59, Subash Jeyan wrote:
> > except for a couple of things, more or less in line with my
> > experience.
> > 
> > i actually deleted my account a couple of years back but i got an
> > email sometime last week whether i would like to revive the
> > account... and i did. but apparently, delete doesn't mean delete
> > 
> > the photos which were waiting to be approved, about 4, when i
> > deleted it are still waiting to be approved.
> > 
> > i don't have some of the lenses anymore and i have acquired new
> > lenses. but, apparently, when one edits one's gear in 'my profile,
> > it doesn't make a difference. it still shows the old gear even
> > after one has deleted them though the new gear added shows up.
> > 
> > 
> > ~subash
> > https://pentaxphotogallery.com/artist-gallery/?artist_id=1374379
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 09:59:21 -0400
> > "Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:
> >   
> >> A few updated comments on the PPG:
> >>
> >> 1.  Voting.  I am spending as much time voting as possible, but the
> >> backlog appears infinite.  I think some of the images have come
> >> around for a second time, and I try to skip over those the second
> >> time.  There were quite a few new ones this morning, however.
> >>
> >> 2.  Uploads.  The upload system is working quite well, although,
> >> despite the instructions, it allowed me to upload more than five
> >> right at the start.
> >>
> >> 3.  Approvals/Rejections.  I have not had any of my images uploaded
> >> last year approved or rejected since the system went back up.  Has
> >> anyone else had any images processed and approved or rejected?
> >>
> >> 4.  Order of images.  Until yesterday, all the images in my gallery
> >> were sorted with the oldest image first.  This made it extremely
> >> difficult to tell im any were approved, as I had to scroll all the
> >> way down.  Now, the most recent images are at the head of each
> >> queue. This is much more convenient.
> >>
> >> 5.  Premiere Collection.  There have been no additions to this
> >> excellent gallery of images since the gallery became active again.
> >>
> >> Anyone else have any comments or recent experiences to share?


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Re: Pentax Photo Gallery

[Ken Waller]

Yes, I recently deleted a photo that was duplicated in the gallery.


-Original Message-
>From: John 
>Sent: Oct 3, 2019 3:10 PM
>To: pdml@pdml.net
>Subject: Re: Pentax Photo Gallery
>
>Just a SWAG, but maybe they won't let you delete a lens from your gear list if 
>that lens was used on one of the photos that are already in your gallery. You 
>still "own" it as long as an image made with it is in your gallery.
>
>Can you delete images from your own gallery?
>
>On 10/2/2019 22:30:59, Subash Jeyan wrote:
>> except for a couple of things, more or less in line with my experience.
>> 
>> i actually deleted my account a couple of years back but i got an email
>> sometime last week whether i would like to revive the account... and i
>> did. but apparently, delete doesn't mean delete
>> 
>> the photos which were waiting to be approved, about 4, when i deleted
>> it are still waiting to be approved.
>> 
>> i don't have some of the lenses anymore and i have acquired new lenses.
>> but, apparently, when one edits one's gear in 'my profile, it doesn't
>> make a difference. it still shows the old gear even after one has
>> deleted them though the new gear added shows up.
>> 
>> 
>> ~subash
>> https://pentaxphotogallery.com/artist-gallery/?artist_id=1374379
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 09:59:21 -0400
>> "Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:
>> 
>>> A few updated comments on the PPG:
>>>
>>> 1.  Voting.  I am spending as much time voting as possible, but the
>>> backlog appears infinite.  I think some of the images have come
>>> around for a second time, and I try to skip over those the second
>>> time.  There were quite a few new ones this morning, however.
>>>
>>> 2.  Uploads.  The upload system is working quite well, although,
>>> despite the instructions, it allowed me to upload more than five
>>> right at the start.
>>>
>>> 3.  Approvals/Rejections.  I have not had any of my images uploaded
>>> last year approved or rejected since the system went back up.  Has
>>> anyone else had any images processed and approved or rejected?
>>>
>>> 4.  Order of images.  Until yesterday, all the images in my gallery
>>> were sorted with the oldest image first.  This made it extremely
>>> difficult to tell im any were approved, as I had to scroll all the
>>> way down.  Now, the most recent images are at the head of each queue.
>>>   This is much more convenient.
>>>
>>> 5.  Premiere Collection.  There have been no additions to this
>>> excellent gallery of images since the gallery became active again.
>>>
>>> Anyone else have any comments or recent experiences to share?
>>>
>>> Dan Matyola
>>> *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
>>> *
>> 
>> 
>
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Re: Pentax Photo Gallery

[Daniel J. Matyola]

A quick update on the PPG.

I just noticed that 2 of the images I submitted last week (of the Praying
Mantis on our pool deck) have been approved in the Gallery.  I am wondering
about the voting process, as I still have a large number of images in the
"Pending Review" section, some going back to January 2018.  I am glad,
however, to see that they are tabulating votes and approving images.

Dan Matyola
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*



On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 9:59 AM Daniel J. Matyola 
wrote:

> A few updated comments on the PPG:
>
> 1.  Voting.  I am spending as much time voting as possible, but the
> backlog appears infinite.  I think some of the images have come around for
> a second time, and I try to skip over those the second time.  There were
> quite a few new ones this morning, however.
>
> 2.  Uploads.  The upload system is working quite well, although, despite
> the instructions, it allowed me to upload more than five right at the start.
>
> 3.  Approvals/Rejections.  I have not had any of my images uploaded last
> year approved or rejected since the system went back up.  Has anyone else
> had any images processed and approved or rejected?
>
> 4.  Order of images.  Until yesterday, all the images in my gallery were
> sorted with the oldest image first.  This made it extremely difficult to
> tell im any were approved, as I had to scroll all the way down.  Now, the
> most recent images are at the head of each queue.  This is much more
> convenient.
>
> 5.  Premiere Collection.  There have been no additions to this excellent
> gallery of images since the gallery became active again.
>
> Anyone else have any comments or recent experiences to share?
>
> Dan Matyola
> *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
> *
>
>
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Re: High ISO questions

[P. J. Alling]

I actually add film grain to some images to give them more character.  I 
found an image of a blank exposed and developed 35mm film, posted 
somewhere on the internet, and add it as a layer to an image that I like 
the composition of but seems to lack "something" and every once in a 
while get a result that looks to my eye pretty good.  Better than the 
imitation film grain that's offered by many plugins and for that matter 
in DxOMark's film pack software.


On 10/3/2019 3:45 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Oct 3, 2019, at 12:04 PM, John  wrote:

Images at ISO 204800 tend to be a bit noisy.

Yes, there is no question of that, but this gives a feel for how noisy.  By the 
same token 200mm shots hand held slower than 1/60 second, or any shots of a 
musician shot at slower than 1/60 tend to be a bit blurry.  It’s a question of 
making the best of a bad situation and what side of the exposure triangle do 
you push harder on.  I figure that with digital I have very little to lose by 
trying for the shots, even if none turn out.  Worst case I waste a dime’s worth 
of hard drive after a night’s shooting, best case I get a keeper shot.

One thing I noticed many years ago is that if you convert a noisy digital shot 
to black and white, the noise gives a retro high ISO film feel.

Here’s the same frame processed in black and white
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/48795253708/in/album-72157711063469821/

To my eye the noise is about the same as the grain in plus-X, not even Tri-X.

Is that frame technically strong enough for me to print out? Not really, and I 
almost certainly wouldn’t hang it on my wall.  However, for a lot of subjects, 
that might be the cleanest photo they have of them doing whatever they love, 
because things like dancing or playing music tend to happen in really crappy 
light.

If I compare this with shots I took with my K100, I would guess it closer to 
ISO 800 than 20,000.



On 10/2/2019 20:16:55, Larry Colen wrote:

There were recently some questions about high ISO on the K-1
I was just going through some photos and noticed that this one is ISO 20,000
http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/48795612116/
this one is 16,000
http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/48795751847/
Just as data points for setting your own ISO.

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Re: Pentax Photo Gallery

[P. J. Alling]

That bad?

On 10/3/2019 3:42 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Oct 3, 2019, at 12:10 PM, John  wrote:

Just a SWAG, but maybe they won't let you delete a lens from your gear list if that lens 
was used on one of the photos that are already in your gallery. You still "own" 
it as long as an image made with it is in your gallery.

It is also possible that their web design team isn’t quite as competent as 
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