PESO Dance like noone's watching

[Larry Colen]

Personally, I think the phrase "Dance like noone's watching” makes about as 
much sense as “Take photos as if nobody will ever look at them”.  You can’t 
live your life terrified of what others will think, but there are times when 
it’s helpful to consider the audience.

Be that as it may, it did seem the perfect caption for this photo:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/49041750812/in/album-72157711715372386/

It was a live band night at a swing dance in Palo Alto last Wednesday, and I 
spent some time playing with the camera.  I learned that the 35/1.4 on the K-1 
is a bit more finicky on focus point placement than I expected.  With the 
31/1.8 on the APS bodies, the shorter fl, smaller aperture and larger focus 
points seemed to not only give it more depth of field, but also more likely to 
focus on dancers in the foreground.  In this hall, this setup did a marvelous 
job of focusing on the paneling on the far wall.  I need to work at being more 
specific with single point focus, or maybe trying the select 9 and see how it 
works.  

For those that are interested, I posted them in order of social dancing, 
musicians, competition and performance.  The competition and performance are 
not usual occurrences at the weekly dance.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157711715372386

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Re: November PUG is up

[ann sanfedele]

too bad it is such a small gallery - "but what there is, is churce" :-)

I especially love Mark's Tate starcase,   Rick's Arch and  Ken's S at 
GFM . I think I may have been in the vicinity when he took that shot.


ann

On 11/9/2019 10:08 PM, Brian W wrote:

G'day all

Sorry for the delay - VERY busy month! Marg & I celebrated our 50th Wedding
Anniversary on 1 Nov and we've been partying ever since!

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Re: Small sensors, with a PESO

[ann sanfedele]

I agree with Cotty :-) Terrific street shots   --  But I'll let him do 
the documenting ..  and the tech talk to the extent you two get into it 
just goes flying right by.


ann

On 11/9/2019 9:08 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 8/11/19, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed:


This was made with the MX-1, at ISO 800, in Montreal back in August:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jbuhler/49035747651/in/photostream/lightbox/

..

Compare with this frame from 2003, made with a Pentax MX and K35/3.5 lens
on Tri-X:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jbuhler/49035249738/in/photostream/lightbox/



Damn you - I started clicking through and spent a half hour browsing!!

No words mate - absolutely blown away by the breadth of work. Can I come make a 
documentary about you?

Sheesh.

...

You obviously have travelled a great deal - you must write about your 
experiences if you haven't already. The life of a street photographer who 
clearly gets drawn in to the society within which he/she works must have many 
tales!

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[Brian W]

G'day all

Sorry for the delay - VERY busy month! Marg & I celebrated our 50th Wedding
Anniversary on 1 Nov and we've been partying ever since!

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Re: PESO Ward and Susan

[Paul Stenquist]

Excellent!

Paul

> On Nov 9, 2019, at 9:34 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> A friend needed some photos, I pointed out that it’s the same amount of work 
> to setup for both him and his wife as it is for just him. We had a fun 
> afternoon getting photos of each of them and of the couple.
> 
> Here’s one of both of them
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/49040971377/in/album-72157711715490243/
> 
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PESO Ward and Susan

[Larry Colen]

A friend needed some photos, I pointed out that it’s the same amount of work to 
setup for both him and his wife as it is for just him. We had a fun afternoon 
getting photos of each of them and of the couple.

Here’s one of both of them
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/49040971377/in/album-72157711715490243/


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Re: Small sensors, with a PESO

[Larry Colen]

> On Nov 9, 2019, at 5:05 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> On 9/11/19, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> Interesting. So you shoot jpegs with these? As I was saying, I find the jpg
>> compression + sensor noise combination to be unpleasant. For this reason I
>> only like compacts that shoot raw.
> 
> I do.
> 
> 
> 
> The Fuji X20's sensor is a 12MP 2/3 inch CMOS so it's not a slouch, but obvs 
> outdated now.
> 
> I love this camera because of the optical viewfinder. It's not the snappiest 
> performer but if I carry one camera because I don't know what to photograph, 
> this'll be it.
> 
> 

Nice composition, but I think you might have overshot the mark a little bit in 
terms of grittiness.

> 
> 

This one I quite like.

> 
> 

Nice shot, I think it would be better with a bit more shadow detail.

All this shows is that you and I aren’t the same person.  

> 
> I guess shooting like this is restricting because I'm narrowing my options. 
> But it makes me think high contrast and gritty, and so I tend to get that 
> mindset on and not look for things that don't fit.

I can understand the pleasure of shooting with film, particularly a very simple 
film camera, but if that’s the effect I want, I’ve got plenty of them 
collecting dust.  If I want gritty loss of detail, I can always do that in post 
processing, but I can’t recover detail that was never there.  But, to each 
their own.
> 
> I'm weird like that ;-)

In the words of the bard, “Let me count the ways”.


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Re: Small sensors, with a PESO

[Larry Colen]

> On Nov 9, 2019, at 5:45 PM,   wrote:
> 
> I'm hanging up my cameras - can't begin to compare with your work Juan!
> 

As long as he sticks to street photography I’m safe, because I don’t shoot much 
of it.
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RE: Small sensors, with a PESO

[jcoyle]

I'm hanging up my cameras - can't begin to compare with your work Juan!


John in Brisbane


On 8/11/19, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed:

>This was made with the MX-1, at ISO 800, in Montreal back in August:
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/jbuhler/49035747651/in/photostream/lightb
>ox/
>
>I think it shows why I like 1/1'7" sensor cameras so much: the small 
>sensor look. At 400 or even 800 ISO, the sensor noise looks a lot like 
>Tri-X. This is, of course, when shooting RAW. I find that the jpeg 
>compression combined with the sensor noise produces horrible results, 
>maybe acceptable if you use the image as-is but terrible if you do any
amount of processing.
>
>Compare with this frame from 2003, made with a Pentax MX and K35/3.5 
>lens on Tri-X:
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/jbuhler/49035249738/in/photostream/lightb
>ox/
>
>Developed by some lab in Paris, scanned with a Polaroid scanner at 
>4000DPI and resized to the same size of the MX-1 image. The digital 
>image is a little more noisy, but it's in the ball park. The MX-1 image 
>was at 800 ISO, also.
>
>I love how the MX-1 image is just as "gritty" as the film one. Current 
>APS-C or full frame 24MP and higher cameras make images that are too 
>"clean" and sterile. Granted, there's plenty of reasons to use them, 
>like very high ISO performance, speed, AF, etc. But I wish Ricoh made 
>an MX-2, with similar features and looks and a 20MP 1 inch sensor.



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Re: Small sensors, with a PESO

[Steve Cottrell]

On 9/11/19, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Interesting. So you shoot jpegs with these? As I was saying, I find the jpg
>compression + sensor noise combination to be unpleasant. For this reason I
>only like compacts that shoot raw.

I do.



The Fuji X20's sensor is a 12MP 2/3 inch CMOS so it's not a slouch, but obvs 
outdated now.

I love this camera because of the optical viewfinder. It's not the snappiest 
performer but if I carry one camera because I don't know what to photograph, 
this'll be it.







I guess shooting like this is restricting because I'm narrowing my options. But 
it makes me think high contrast and gritty, and so I tend to get that mindset 
on and not look for things that don't fit.

I'm weird like that ;-)

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Re: Small sensors, with a PESO

[Juan Buhler]

On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 6:08 AM Steve Cottrell  wrote:

>
> Damn you - I started clicking through and spent a half hour browsing!!
>
> No words mate - absolutely blown away by the breadth of work. Can I come
> make a documentary about you?
>
>
Lol, thanks Cotty! Sure, you can come do a documentary, I'll buy the beer.
:D


> Agree with all the above. I have a Fuji X20 (yes an optical viewfinder)
> and it has a couple of custom settings on the top dial. I keep the first
> setting as mono, increased contrast and noise for exactly the same reasons
> you describe above. The second setting is for standard colour.
>
> Similar settings on my Pen F, although I don't add noise.
>

Interesting. So you shoot jpegs with these? As I was saying, I find the jpg
compression + sensor noise combination to be unpleasant. For this reason I
only like compacts that shoot raw.



> You obviously have travelled a great deal - you must write about your
> experiences if you haven't already. The life of a street photographer who
> clearly gets drawn in to the society within which he/she works must have
> many tales!
>

Heh. But these are mostly just vacations... Trust me, reality is a lot less
exciting than whatever it is you imagine my life is like :)

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Re: Small sensors, with a PESO

[Steve Cottrell]

On 8/11/19, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed:

>This was made with the MX-1, at ISO 800, in Montreal back in August:
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/jbuhler/49035747651/in/photostream/lightbox/
>
>I think it shows why I like 1/1'7" sensor cameras so much: the small sensor
>look. At 400 or even 800 ISO, the sensor noise looks a lot like Tri-X. This
>is, of course, when shooting RAW. I find that the jpeg compression combined
>with the sensor noise produces horrible results, maybe acceptable if you
>use the image as-is but terrible if you do any amount of processing.
>
>Compare with this frame from 2003, made with a Pentax MX and K35/3.5 lens
>on Tri-X:
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/jbuhler/49035249738/in/photostream/lightbox/
>
>Developed by some lab in Paris, scanned with a Polaroid scanner at 4000DPI
>and resized to the same size of the MX-1 image. The digital image is a
>little more noisy, but it's in the ball park. The MX-1 image was at 800
>ISO, also.
>
>I love how the MX-1 image is just as "gritty" as the film one. Current
>APS-C or full frame 24MP and higher cameras make images that are too
>"clean" and sterile. Granted, there's plenty of reasons to use them, like
>very high ISO performance, speed, AF, etc. But I wish Ricoh made an MX-2,
>with similar features and looks and a 20MP 1 inch sensor.

Damn you - I started clicking through and spent a half hour browsing!!

No words mate - absolutely blown away by the breadth of work. Can I come make a 
documentary about you?

Sheesh.

Agree with all the above. I have a Fuji X20 (yes an optical viewfinder) and it 
has a couple of custom settings on the top dial. I keep the first setting as 
mono, increased contrast and noise for exactly the same reasons you describe 
above. The second setting is for standard colour.

Similar settings on my Pen F, although I don't add noise.

You obviously have travelled a great deal - you must write about your 
experiences if you haven't already. The life of a street photographer who 
clearly gets drawn in to the society within which he/she works must have many 
tales!

Cheers

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