Re: Out I bow

[Alan C]

?

Alan C

On 23-May-21 07:13 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

Good day to you wherever and whenever you are.

Good times were had aplenty in the past years, but no more. I no longer
feel welcome here, merely my presence is tolerated. It stands to good
reason, that at least half of what contributed to this is on me, as it
always takes two to tango.

I wish you all the best wherever your path takes you and I'd gladly
assist you in any way I can, should you be nearby. You know where to find
me.

Boris
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Re: Out I bow

[Boris Liberman]

I can be found by my email address: bori...@gmail.com.

On Sun, May 23, 2021, 09:03 Toine  wrote:

> I don't understand what you mean. Probably missed something or a lot
> (I don't read everything). You can be found where? Facebook,
> Instagram, ...
>
> Toine
>
> On Sun, 23 May 2021 at 07:14, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> >
> > Good day to you wherever and whenever you are.
> >
> > Good times were had aplenty in the past years, but no more. I no longer
> > feel welcome here, merely my presence is tolerated. It stands to good
> > reason, that at least half of what contributed to this is on me, as it
> > always takes two to tango.
> >
> > I wish you all the best wherever your path takes you and I'd gladly
> > assist you in any way I can, should you be nearby. You know where to find
> > me.
> >
> > Boris
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Re: Out I bow

[Toine]

I don't understand what you mean. Probably missed something or a lot
(I don't read everything). You can be found where? Facebook,
Instagram, ...

Toine

On Sun, 23 May 2021 at 07:14, Boris Liberman  wrote:
>
> Good day to you wherever and whenever you are.
>
> Good times were had aplenty in the past years, but no more. I no longer
> feel welcome here, merely my presence is tolerated. It stands to good
> reason, that at least half of what contributed to this is on me, as it
> always takes two to tango.
>
> I wish you all the best wherever your path takes you and I'd gladly
> assist you in any way I can, should you be nearby. You know where to find
> me.
>
> Boris
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Out I bow

[Boris Liberman]

Good day to you wherever and whenever you are.

Good times were had aplenty in the past years, but no more. I no longer
feel welcome here, merely my presence is tolerated. It stands to good
reason, that at least half of what contributed to this is on me, as it
always takes two to tango.

I wish you all the best wherever your path takes you and I'd gladly
assist you in any way I can, should you be nearby. You know where to find
me.

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Re: sure is quiet

[ann sanfedele]

Larry knows...

ann

On 5/22/2021 4:32 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On May 22, 2021, at 11:14 AM, John  wrote:

I don't often offer criticism because my own photography isn't that great. And I don't 
much care to be a "me too" …

You are probably the person who is least qualified to judge the quality of your 
photography.  Also, ability to do something has no bearing on how much you 
might like it.  There are people who have made millions of dollars from their 
music, which I can’t stand to listen to.  If I were to sing in public, people 
would be more likely to pay me to stop.

There is also a huge difference between criticism, critique and discussion.

I think I would like that photo more if it were cropped more tightly on the 
part I find interesting.
I really like the lighting on the subject, how did you do that?
I’d like it better if the subject were sharper, but I can’t tell whether that 
is motion blur or out of focus.
and of course the ever popular
I don’t have anything at all productive to say about this photo, so I’ll make a 
pun about it and start a thread that lasts five times as long as any serious 
discussion about photography.


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Re: Peseo: Max

[ann sanfedele]

He looks glad to have been rescued but a bit shy... nice shot.. elicits 
"a"


ann

On 5/22/2021 2:29 PM, Bill wrote:

Max is our little rescue.
Well, if you consider 46 pounds to be little.

https://flic.kr/p/2m15Zvj

Technical stuff

Pentax K1 D FA* 85/1.4 @ f/3.5, 1/40 second, ISO 1

enjoy

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Initiations (was Amazon)

[Nolan Hinshaw]

On May 22, 2021, at 01:39, Bob Pdml  wrote:

> 
> I don’t know why they named a river after a book company,

Nice one, although it hasn't been just a book company for some time now.

> but Salgado has been taking pictures there.
> 
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-57162597
> 
> His work is like the monumental novels that the 19th century writers used to 
> write.

Stunners!

> On topic: he started out using his wife’s Spotmatic.

I couldn't quite afford a Spotmatic but I did buy my Asahi-branded S1A[0] and 
later a Tokina midrange zoom, a bellows, and slice copier. They're all gone now 
except for the zoom; now it's the K-1000 and the K-10D.

[0] 1968 while stationed in Italy, via one of our security types who almost 
literally commuted to and from Japan taking orders and returning hardware
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Re: Trying some things, thinking about cameras...

[Henk Terhell]

Stan, I don't pretend to have the answers to all of your questions.
However the K3III photo is not just brighter but has stronger contrast 
as also the purple is darker. Could be caused by different lenses. 
Something you can easily correct in Lightroom I think.


As for a tele lens for the K3III, I suggest if you haven't done this, 
try the fast 55-300 PLM.
I am using this now on the K-1 for semi macro work, because the minimum 
focus distance is only 0.95 meter which is not bad at all for a 300 mm 
lens.
Excellent choice for flowers, butterflies though short for birds. And 
much lighter than my Tamron 70-200/2.8 which has exactly the same 
minimum focus distance.
Of course this PLM lens needs to be fit on an APS-C but it works only on 
the newer bodies which I don't own.
Here as example a butterfly pic which I shot with my new 55-300 PLM 
under stormy conditions yesterday: https://flic.kr/p/2kZTo7A


Henk

Op 2021-05-22 om 21:55 schreef Stanley Halpin:

Three parts, skip to #3 if you like.
[1] = background on my camera stuff;
[2] = philosophical musings on why do I have this stuff and how am I 
using it; and
[3] = link to small gallery of shots comparing 3 Pentax bodies, each 
with one of three Pentax macro lenses. Oh, and then
[4] = my lessons learned and thoughts about what’s next.

[1] My name is Stan and I am a camera equipment addict. Current inventory of 
DSLRs includes 2 @ K-1ii, 1 @ 645Z, and 1 @ K-3iii. I will leave aside the 
GRiii and K-01 and Q-S1 and WG-5 and WG-M1 at this point.

[2] In my defense, I don’t just buy stuff, I use my cameras and I even 
sometimes sell cameras and/or bodies which I am not using. Also, since almost 
forever, I do not like to be in a situation where I am without a decent camera. 
Which mens that, when I travel or when I go out for a day to hunt flowers or 
birds or barns or whatever, I like to have 2 camera bodies with me, just in 
case one stops working. And, yes, I carry spare batteries and spare SD cards.
[Side story. 1998. There I was, in a dugout canoe, being taken across a 
large lagoon in Panama on the way to a native tribal village for a visit and 
likely interesting photos. My reason for the Panama trip was work-related, I 
did not know I would be able to get any time on my own for a side trip like 
this, only took one camera, my relatively new Pz-1p with FA 28-105. A 
alligator/crocodile popped his head up to watch us. I took a quick snap, 
realized that I had just used the last shot on that roll of film. Quickly 
rewound, pulled out another roll, opened the camera back, pulled out the used 
roll, started to put in the fresh roll, the canoe rocked a bit, I put my thumb 
through the cloth shutter curtain. I really really hate it when I don’t have a 
backup with me.]

I think of the K-1 as my main cameras. The 645Z is just very special. I bought 
my first 6456Z a few months before a long trip in Alaska, planning to use it to 
replicate some of Ansel Adam’s views of Denali. I later sold that body, 
primarily because it doesn’t have SR except unless you buy a newer lens with SR 
in the lens. And those newer lenses cost almost as much as the body. Then 
fairly recently bought a used 645Z and 90/2.8 SR lens at a very attractive 
package price. I got the K-3iii a few weeks ago, primarily attracted by the 
stories of super continuous AF, great for moving targets like birds in flight. 
My thought was to sell one of the K-1 bodies, use the K-3iii as my “back-up” 
camera when traveling. With the added advantages of good AF and the APS-C crop 
factor to help on longer shots.

The dilemma. An Azalea bush and a Rhododendron bush or two are flowering in our 
yard. I headed out to do some macro shots of the buds and flowers. First 
thought was to take the 645Z. But wait I have this super new camera, I should 
use that… I have since done a bit of dithering and “test” shots, culminating 
this morning in an evenly lit breeze-free opportunity to do four shots (/5.6, 
/8.0, /11.0, and /16) with each of the following (all at ISO100, manually 
focused): a) 645Z with D FA 90/2.8 Macro ED AW SR; b) K-3iii with PK-A 50/2.8 
Macro; and c) K-1ii with D FA 100/2.8  Macro WR.

[3] The gallery:
 https://adobe.ly/3fwx4wc

In order these three shots, all at f/8.0, are 645Z, K-3iii, and K-1ii. 
The 4th image shows the set up for the shots. All of these are unprocessed, 
straight from the camera except for a square crop on all in part for 
composition and in part to provide roughly equivalent views of the subject. If 
anybody wants to pixel-peep, compare settings etc, I would be glad to share the 
rest of the set (images shot at /5.6, /11.0, and /16.)
For those that want more of the gory details, the long edge, before and after cropping: 
645Z 8256 ->  5824; K-1 7360 -> 4908; K-3 6193 -> 4128

[4]
a - I’ve said it before, but I don’t think Pentax has ever made a bad 
Macro lens.
b - I don’t understand why the K-3 im

Re: Peseo: Max

[Paul Stenquist]

Nice pup. Great use of that lens. I need a dog. And that lens!

Paul

> On May 22, 2021, at 2:29 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> Max is our little rescue.
> Well, if you consider 46 pounds to be little.
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/2m15Zvj
> 
> Technical stuff
> 
> Pentax K1 D FA* 85/1.4 @ f/3.5, 1/40 second, ISO 1
> 
> enjoy
> 
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Re: Trying some things, thinking about cameras...

[Paul Stenquist]

Yep. The way a camera represents RAW differs depending on the presets. Render 
each image to what you consider optimum, then compare. The jpeg version of RAW 
you see when opening it is meaningless. My K-1 and K-3 RAWs look radically 
different when first opened, even though Zim using the same lens. After I’ve 
rendered them they’re virtually identical.

Paul

> On May 22, 2021, at 5:42 PM, Stanley Halpin  
> wrote:
> 
> I just thought of something else… Within LR, looking at the 3 images as 
> imported (i.e., under Develop, under the Profile portion, WB As Shot):
>645Z - Temp = 5000, Tint = +36
>K-1 -Temp = 5200, Tint = +21
>K-3 -Temp = 5250, Tint = +29
> 
> So, different “normal” Auto settings for the three cameras? 
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Re: Trying some things, thinking about cameras...

[Stanley Halpin]

Thanks for the suggestion Henk. Nice butterfly! 
55-300… I’ll need to think about that.

Stan

> On May 22, 2021, at 5:06 PM, Henk Terhell  wrote:
> 
> Stan, I don't pretend to have the answers to all of your questions.
> However the K3III photo is not just brighter but has stronger contrast as 
> also the purple is darker. Could be caused by different lenses. Something you 
> can easily correct in Lightroom I think.
> 
> As for a tele lens for the K3III, I suggest if you haven't done this, try the 
> fast 55-300 PLM.
> I am using this now on the K-1 for semi macro work, because the minimum focus 
> distance is only 0.95 meter which is not bad at all for a 300 mm lens.
> Excellent choice for flowers, butterflies though short for birds. And much 
> lighter than my Tamron 70-200/2.8 which has exactly the same minimum focus 
> distance.
> Of course this PLM lens needs to be fit on an APS-C but it works only on the 
> newer bodies which I don't own.
> Here as example a butterfly pic which I shot with my new 55-300 PLM under 
> stormy conditions yesterday: https://flic.kr/p/2kZTo7A
> 
> Henk
> 
> Op 2021-05-22 om 21:55 schreef Stanley Halpin:
>> Three parts, skip to #3 if you like.
>>  [1] = background on my camera stuff;
>>  [2] = philosophical musings on why do I have this stuff and how am I 
>> using it; and
>>  [3] = link to small gallery of shots comparing 3 Pentax bodies, each 
>> with one of three Pentax macro lenses. Oh, and then
>>  [4] = my lessons learned and thoughts about what’s next.
>> 
>> [1] My name is Stan and I am a camera equipment addict. Current inventory of 
>> DSLRs includes 2 @ K-1ii, 1 @ 645Z, and 1 @ K-3iii. I will leave aside the 
>> GRiii and K-01 and Q-S1 and WG-5 and WG-M1 at this point.
>> 
>> [2] In my defense, I don’t just buy stuff, I use my cameras and I even 
>> sometimes sell cameras and/or bodies which I am not using. Also, since 
>> almost forever, I do not like to be in a situation where I am without a 
>> decent camera. Which mens that, when I travel or when I go out for a day to 
>> hunt flowers or birds or barns or whatever, I like to have 2 camera bodies 
>> with me, just in case one stops working. And, yes, I carry spare batteries 
>> and spare SD cards.
>>  [Side story. 1998. There I was, in a dugout canoe, being taken across a 
>> large lagoon in Panama on the way to a native tribal village for a visit and 
>> likely interesting photos. My reason for the Panama trip was work-related, I 
>> did not know I would be able to get any time on my own for a side trip like 
>> this, only took one camera, my relatively new Pz-1p with FA 28-105. A 
>> alligator/crocodile popped his head up to watch us. I took a quick snap, 
>> realized that I had just used the last shot on that roll of film. Quickly 
>> rewound, pulled out another roll, opened the camera back, pulled out the 
>> used roll, started to put in the fresh roll, the canoe rocked a bit, I put 
>> my thumb through the cloth shutter curtain. I really really hate it when I 
>> don’t have a backup with me.]
>> 
>> I think of the K-1 as my main cameras. The 645Z is just very special. I 
>> bought my first 6456Z a few months before a long trip in Alaska, planning to 
>> use it to replicate some of Ansel Adam’s views of Denali. I later sold that 
>> body, primarily because it doesn’t have SR except unless you buy a newer 
>> lens with SR in the lens. And those newer lenses cost almost as much as the 
>> body. Then fairly recently bought a used 645Z and 90/2.8 SR lens at a very 
>> attractive package price. I got the K-3iii a few weeks ago, primarily 
>> attracted by the stories of super continuous AF, great for moving targets 
>> like birds in flight. My thought was to sell one of the K-1 bodies, use the 
>> K-3iii as my “back-up” camera when traveling. With the added advantages of 
>> good AF and the APS-C crop factor to help on longer shots.
>> 
>> The dilemma. An Azalea bush and a Rhododendron bush or two are flowering in 
>> our yard. I headed out to do some macro shots of the buds and flowers. First 
>> thought was to take the 645Z. But wait I have this super new camera, I 
>> should use that… I have since done a bit of dithering and “test” shots, 
>> culminating this morning in an evenly lit breeze-free opportunity to do four 
>> shots (/5.6, /8.0, /11.0, and /16) with each of the following (all at 
>> ISO100, manually focused): a) 645Z with D FA 90/2.8 Macro ED AW SR; b) 
>> K-3iii with PK-A 50/2.8 Macro; and c) K-1ii with D FA 100/2.8  Macro WR.
>> 
>> [3] The gallery:
>>   https://adobe.ly/3fwx4wc
>> 
>>  In order these three shots, all at f/8.0, are 645Z, K-3iii, and K-1ii. 
>> The 4th image shows the set up for the shots. All of these are unprocessed, 
>> straight from the camera except for a square crop on all in part for 
>> composition and in part to provide roughly equivalent views of the subject. 
>> If anybody wants to pixel-peep, compare settings etc, I would be glad to 
>> sh

Re: Trying some things, thinking about cameras...

[Stanley Halpin]

I just thought of something else… Within LR, looking at the 3 images as 
imported (i.e., under Develop, under the Profile portion, WB As Shot):
645Z - Temp = 5000, Tint = +36
K-1 -Temp = 5200, Tint = +21
K-3 -Temp = 5250, Tint = +29

So, different “normal” Auto settings for the three cameras? 

Stan

> On May 22, 2021, at 4:40 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> The difference in saturation and contrast is a matter of rendering. Are they 
> in camera jpegs? If so, the rendering engines in the cameras are programmed 
> differently or a menu choice (like vivid vs normal) are probably set to 
> different values. If you’re shooting RAW, you just made different decisions. 
> Every lens and sensor is different so you render based on what you see.
> 
> Paul
> 
>> On May 22, 2021, at 3:55 PM, Stanley Halpin  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Three parts, skip to #3 if you like. 
>>   [1] = background on my camera stuff; 
>>   [2] = philosophical musings on why do I have this stuff and how am I using 
>> it; and 
>>   [3] = link to small gallery of shots comparing 3 Pentax bodies, each with 
>> one of three Pentax macro lenses. Oh, and then 
>>   [4] = my lessons learned and thoughts about what’s next.
>> 
>> [1] My name is Stan and I am a camera equipment addict. Current inventory of 
>> DSLRs includes 2 @ K-1ii, 1 @ 645Z, and 1 @ K-3iii. I will leave aside the 
>> GRiii and K-01 and Q-S1 and WG-5 and WG-M1 at this point.
>> 
>> [2] In my defense, I don’t just buy stuff, I use my cameras and I even 
>> sometimes sell cameras and/or bodies which I am not using. Also, since 
>> almost forever, I do not like to be in a situation where I am without a 
>> decent camera. Which mens that, when I travel or when I go out for a day to 
>> hunt flowers or birds or barns or whatever, I like to have 2 camera bodies 
>> with me, just in case one stops working. And, yes, I carry spare batteries 
>> and spare SD cards.
>>   [Side story. 1998. There I was, in a dugout canoe, being taken across a 
>> large lagoon in Panama on the way to a native tribal village for a visit and 
>> likely interesting photos. My reason for the Panama trip was work-related, I 
>> did not know I would be able to get any time on my own for a side trip like 
>> this, only took one camera, my relatively new Pz-1p with FA 28-105. A 
>> alligator/crocodile popped his head up to watch us. I took a quick snap, 
>> realized that I had just used the last shot on that roll of film. Quickly 
>> rewound, pulled out another roll, opened the camera back, pulled out the 
>> used roll, started to put in the fresh roll, the canoe rocked a bit, I put 
>> my thumb through the cloth shutter curtain. I really really hate it when I 
>> don’t have a backup with me.] 
>> 
>> I think of the K-1 as my main cameras. The 645Z is just very special. I 
>> bought my first 6456Z a few months before a long trip in Alaska, planning to 
>> use it to replicate some of Ansel Adam’s views of Denali. I later sold that 
>> body, primarily because it doesn’t have SR except unless you buy a newer 
>> lens with SR in the lens. And those newer lenses cost almost as much as the 
>> body. Then fairly recently bought a used 645Z and 90/2.8 SR lens at a very 
>> attractive package price. I got the K-3iii a few weeks ago, primarily 
>> attracted by the stories of super continuous AF, great for moving targets 
>> like birds in flight. My thought was to sell one of the K-1 bodies, use the 
>> K-3iii as my “back-up” camera when traveling. With the added advantages of 
>> good AF and the APS-C crop factor to help on longer shots.
>> 
>> The dilemma. An Azalea bush and a Rhododendron bush or two are flowering in 
>> our yard. I headed out to do some macro shots of the buds and flowers. First 
>> thought was to take the 645Z. But wait I have this super new camera, I 
>> should use that… I have since done a bit of dithering and “test” shots, 
>> culminating this morning in an evenly lit breeze-free opportunity to do four 
>> shots (/5.6, /8.0, /11.0, and /16) with each of the following (all at 
>> ISO100, manually focused): a) 645Z with D FA 90/2.8 Macro ED AW SR; b) 
>> K-3iii with PK-A 50/2.8 Macro; and c) K-1ii with D FA 100/2.8  Macro WR.
>> 
>> [3] The gallery:
>>https://adobe.ly/3fwx4wc
>> 
>>   In order these three shots, all at f/8.0, are 645Z, K-3iii, and K-1ii. The 
>> 4th image shows the set up for the shots. All of these are unprocessed, 
>> straight from the camera except for a square crop on all in part for 
>> composition and in part to provide roughly equivalent views of the subject. 
>> If anybody wants to pixel-peep, compare settings etc, I would be glad to 
>> share the rest of the set (images shot at /5.6, /11.0, and /16.)
>> For those that want more of the gory details, the long edge, before and 
>> after cropping: 645Z 8256 ->  5824; K-1 7360 -> 4908; K-3 6193 -> 4128
>> 
>> [4]
>>   a - I’ve said it before, but I don’t think Pentax has ever made a bad 
>> Macro lens.
>

Re: Trying some things, thinking about cameras...

[Stanley Halpin]

I shot RAW (dng). I tried to sync a Collection from LR Classic to LR CC in the 
cloud (which would have exported Smart Previews to the cloud gallery) but for 
reasons I don’t understand, the sync failed “because of metadata errors.” So I 
exported the cropped images from LR to my desktop as “original dng file 
format”. I then opened my LR site in the cloud, did a drag-and-drop from my 
desktop to the site to create this gallery. The difference in brightness/color 
rendition shows up in the images as originally imported (of course what I see 
on the screen is after LR converts from dng to jpg?). On the K-3 as on the 
others, I have the WB and Custom Image selectors set to Auto.

In short, I don’t see anything in my settings or processing that would have 
imparted a different color rendition. Of course I can fiddle the images and 
adjust what seems off to me, but I remain a bit puzzled by the difference in 
out-of-camera color.

Stan


> On May 22, 2021, at 4:40 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> The difference in saturation and contrast is a matter of rendering. Are they 
> in camera jpegs? If so, the rendering engines in the cameras are programmed 
> differently or a menu choice (like vivid vs normal) are probably set to 
> different values. If you’re shooting RAW, you just made different decisions. 
> Every lens and sensor is different so you render based on what you see.
> 
> Paul
> 
>> On May 22, 2021, at 3:55 PM, Stanley Halpin  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Three parts, skip to #3 if you like. 
>>   [1] = background on my camera stuff; 
>>   [2] = philosophical musings on why do I have this stuff and how am I using 
>> it; and 
>>   [3] = link to small gallery of shots comparing 3 Pentax bodies, each with 
>> one of three Pentax macro lenses. Oh, and then 
>>   [4] = my lessons learned and thoughts about what’s next.
>> 
>> [1] My name is Stan and I am a camera equipment addict. Current inventory of 
>> DSLRs includes 2 @ K-1ii, 1 @ 645Z, and 1 @ K-3iii. I will leave aside the 
>> GRiii and K-01 and Q-S1 and WG-5 and WG-M1 at this point.
>> 
>> [2] In my defense, I don’t just buy stuff, I use my cameras and I even 
>> sometimes sell cameras and/or bodies which I am not using. Also, since 
>> almost forever, I do not like to be in a situation where I am without a 
>> decent camera. Which mens that, when I travel or when I go out for a day to 
>> hunt flowers or birds or barns or whatever, I like to have 2 camera bodies 
>> with me, just in case one stops working. And, yes, I carry spare batteries 
>> and spare SD cards.
>>   [Side story. 1998. There I was, in a dugout canoe, being taken across a 
>> large lagoon in Panama on the way to a native tribal village for a visit and 
>> likely interesting photos. My reason for the Panama trip was work-related, I 
>> did not know I would be able to get any time on my own for a side trip like 
>> this, only took one camera, my relatively new Pz-1p with FA 28-105. A 
>> alligator/crocodile popped his head up to watch us. I took a quick snap, 
>> realized that I had just used the last shot on that roll of film. Quickly 
>> rewound, pulled out another roll, opened the camera back, pulled out the 
>> used roll, started to put in the fresh roll, the canoe rocked a bit, I put 
>> my thumb through the cloth shutter curtain. I really really hate it when I 
>> don’t have a backup with me.] 
>> 
>> I think of the K-1 as my main cameras. The 645Z is just very special. I 
>> bought my first 6456Z a few months before a long trip in Alaska, planning to 
>> use it to replicate some of Ansel Adam’s views of Denali. I later sold that 
>> body, primarily because it doesn’t have SR except unless you buy a newer 
>> lens with SR in the lens. And those newer lenses cost almost as much as the 
>> body. Then fairly recently bought a used 645Z and 90/2.8 SR lens at a very 
>> attractive package price. I got the K-3iii a few weeks ago, primarily 
>> attracted by the stories of super continuous AF, great for moving targets 
>> like birds in flight. My thought was to sell one of the K-1 bodies, use the 
>> K-3iii as my “back-up” camera when traveling. With the added advantages of 
>> good AF and the APS-C crop factor to help on longer shots.
>> 
>> The dilemma. An Azalea bush and a Rhododendron bush or two are flowering in 
>> our yard. I headed out to do some macro shots of the buds and flowers. First 
>> thought was to take the 645Z. But wait I have this super new camera, I 
>> should use that… I have since done a bit of dithering and “test” shots, 
>> culminating this morning in an evenly lit breeze-free opportunity to do four 
>> shots (/5.6, /8.0, /11.0, and /16) with each of the following (all at 
>> ISO100, manually focused): a) 645Z with D FA 90/2.8 Macro ED AW SR; b) 
>> K-3iii with PK-A 50/2.8 Macro; and c) K-1ii with D FA 100/2.8  Macro WR.
>> 
>> [3] The gallery:
>>https://adobe.ly/3fwx4wc
>> 
>>   In order these three shots, all at f/8.0, are 645Z, K-3iii, and K-1ii. The 
>> 4th image 

Re: Trying some things, thinking about cameras...

[Paul Stenquist]

Yes, the K3-3 plus converter and long lens will make an excellent birding rig. 
As noted before I’ve gone to my K-3 for birding since I need longer reach 
following knee surgery. I tvwould bebperfect with the viewfinder and autofocus 
of the K3-3.

Paul

> On May 22, 2021, at 3:55 PM, Stanley Halpin  
> wrote:
> 
> Three parts, skip to #3 if you like. 
>[1] = background on my camera stuff; 
>[2] = philosophical musings on why do I have this stuff and how am I using 
> it; and 
>[3] = link to small gallery of shots comparing 3 Pentax bodies, each with 
> one of three Pentax macro lenses. Oh, and then 
>[4] = my lessons learned and thoughts about what’s next.
> 
> [1] My name is Stan and I am a camera equipment addict. Current inventory of 
> DSLRs includes 2 @ K-1ii, 1 @ 645Z, and 1 @ K-3iii. I will leave aside the 
> GRiii and K-01 and Q-S1 and WG-5 and WG-M1 at this point.
> 
> [2] In my defense, I don’t just buy stuff, I use my cameras and I even 
> sometimes sell cameras and/or bodies which I am not using. Also, since almost 
> forever, I do not like to be in a situation where I am without a decent 
> camera. Which mens that, when I travel or when I go out for a day to hunt 
> flowers or birds or barns or whatever, I like to have 2 camera bodies with 
> me, just in case one stops working. And, yes, I carry spare batteries and 
> spare SD cards.
>[Side story. 1998. There I was, in a dugout canoe, being taken across a 
> large lagoon in Panama on the way to a native tribal village for a visit and 
> likely interesting photos. My reason for the Panama trip was work-related, I 
> did not know I would be able to get any time on my own for a side trip like 
> this, only took one camera, my relatively new Pz-1p with FA 28-105. A 
> alligator/crocodile popped his head up to watch us. I took a quick snap, 
> realized that I had just used the last shot on that roll of film. Quickly 
> rewound, pulled out another roll, opened the camera back, pulled out the used 
> roll, started to put in the fresh roll, the canoe rocked a bit, I put my 
> thumb through the cloth shutter curtain. I really really hate it when I don’t 
> have a backup with me.] 
> 
> I think of the K-1 as my main cameras. The 645Z is just very special. I 
> bought my first 6456Z a few months before a long trip in Alaska, planning to 
> use it to replicate some of Ansel Adam’s views of Denali. I later sold that 
> body, primarily because it doesn’t have SR except unless you buy a newer lens 
> with SR in the lens. And those newer lenses cost almost as much as the body. 
> Then fairly recently bought a used 645Z and 90/2.8 SR lens at a very 
> attractive package price. I got the K-3iii a few weeks ago, primarily 
> attracted by the stories of super continuous AF, great for moving targets 
> like birds in flight. My thought was to sell one of the K-1 bodies, use the 
> K-3iii as my “back-up” camera when traveling. With the added advantages of 
> good AF and the APS-C crop factor to help on longer shots.
> 
> The dilemma. An Azalea bush and a Rhododendron bush or two are flowering in 
> our yard. I headed out to do some macro shots of the buds and flowers. First 
> thought was to take the 645Z. But wait I have this super new camera, I should 
> use that… I have since done a bit of dithering and “test” shots, culminating 
> this morning in an evenly lit breeze-free opportunity to do four shots (/5.6, 
> /8.0, /11.0, and /16) with each of the following (all at ISO100, manually 
> focused): a) 645Z with D FA 90/2.8 Macro ED AW SR; b) K-3iii with PK-A 50/2.8 
> Macro; and c) K-1ii with D FA 100/2.8  Macro WR.
> 
> [3] The gallery:
> https://adobe.ly/3fwx4wc
> 
>In order these three shots, all at f/8.0, are 645Z, K-3iii, and K-1ii. The 
> 4th image shows the set up for the shots. All of these are unprocessed, 
> straight from the camera except for a square crop on all in part for 
> composition and in part to provide roughly equivalent views of the subject. 
> If anybody wants to pixel-peep, compare settings etc, I would be glad to 
> share the rest of the set (images shot at /5.6, /11.0, and /16.)
> For those that want more of the gory details, the long edge, before and after 
> cropping: 645Z 8256 ->  5824; K-1 7360 -> 4908; K-3 6193 -> 4128
> 
> [4]
>a - I’ve said it before, but I don’t think Pentax has ever made a bad 
> Macro lens.
>b - I don’t understand why the K-3 image seems too bright particularly in 
> the highlight areas. Maybe it is “more accurate” than the older sensors? 
> Maybe I have some random setting set wrongly? Is it a metering thing due to 
> using a PK-A lens on this one rather than a D FA as on the others? In any 
> case, I prefer the tonality of the other two.
>c - I do miss having a flip-out screen on the K-3iii for composing and 
> focusing.
>d - the wonderfulness of the viewfinder on the K-3iii was much hyped and 
> acclaimed in Pentax publicity and early reviews. They are right, it is

Re: Trying some things, thinking about cameras...

[Paul Stenquist]

The difference in saturation and contrast is a matter of rendering. Are they in 
camera jpegs? If so, the rendering engines in the cameras are programmed 
differently or a menu choice (like vivid vs normal) are probably set to 
different values. If you’re shooting RAW, you just made different decisions. 
Every lens and sensor is different so you render based on what you see.

Paul

> On May 22, 2021, at 3:55 PM, Stanley Halpin  
> wrote:
> 
> Three parts, skip to #3 if you like. 
>[1] = background on my camera stuff; 
>[2] = philosophical musings on why do I have this stuff and how am I using 
> it; and 
>[3] = link to small gallery of shots comparing 3 Pentax bodies, each with 
> one of three Pentax macro lenses. Oh, and then 
>[4] = my lessons learned and thoughts about what’s next.
> 
> [1] My name is Stan and I am a camera equipment addict. Current inventory of 
> DSLRs includes 2 @ K-1ii, 1 @ 645Z, and 1 @ K-3iii. I will leave aside the 
> GRiii and K-01 and Q-S1 and WG-5 and WG-M1 at this point.
> 
> [2] In my defense, I don’t just buy stuff, I use my cameras and I even 
> sometimes sell cameras and/or bodies which I am not using. Also, since almost 
> forever, I do not like to be in a situation where I am without a decent 
> camera. Which mens that, when I travel or when I go out for a day to hunt 
> flowers or birds or barns or whatever, I like to have 2 camera bodies with 
> me, just in case one stops working. And, yes, I carry spare batteries and 
> spare SD cards.
>[Side story. 1998. There I was, in a dugout canoe, being taken across a 
> large lagoon in Panama on the way to a native tribal village for a visit and 
> likely interesting photos. My reason for the Panama trip was work-related, I 
> did not know I would be able to get any time on my own for a side trip like 
> this, only took one camera, my relatively new Pz-1p with FA 28-105. A 
> alligator/crocodile popped his head up to watch us. I took a quick snap, 
> realized that I had just used the last shot on that roll of film. Quickly 
> rewound, pulled out another roll, opened the camera back, pulled out the used 
> roll, started to put in the fresh roll, the canoe rocked a bit, I put my 
> thumb through the cloth shutter curtain. I really really hate it when I don’t 
> have a backup with me.] 
> 
> I think of the K-1 as my main cameras. The 645Z is just very special. I 
> bought my first 6456Z a few months before a long trip in Alaska, planning to 
> use it to replicate some of Ansel Adam’s views of Denali. I later sold that 
> body, primarily because it doesn’t have SR except unless you buy a newer lens 
> with SR in the lens. And those newer lenses cost almost as much as the body. 
> Then fairly recently bought a used 645Z and 90/2.8 SR lens at a very 
> attractive package price. I got the K-3iii a few weeks ago, primarily 
> attracted by the stories of super continuous AF, great for moving targets 
> like birds in flight. My thought was to sell one of the K-1 bodies, use the 
> K-3iii as my “back-up” camera when traveling. With the added advantages of 
> good AF and the APS-C crop factor to help on longer shots.
> 
> The dilemma. An Azalea bush and a Rhododendron bush or two are flowering in 
> our yard. I headed out to do some macro shots of the buds and flowers. First 
> thought was to take the 645Z. But wait I have this super new camera, I should 
> use that… I have since done a bit of dithering and “test” shots, culminating 
> this morning in an evenly lit breeze-free opportunity to do four shots (/5.6, 
> /8.0, /11.0, and /16) with each of the following (all at ISO100, manually 
> focused): a) 645Z with D FA 90/2.8 Macro ED AW SR; b) K-3iii with PK-A 50/2.8 
> Macro; and c) K-1ii with D FA 100/2.8  Macro WR.
> 
> [3] The gallery:
> https://adobe.ly/3fwx4wc
> 
>In order these three shots, all at f/8.0, are 645Z, K-3iii, and K-1ii. The 
> 4th image shows the set up for the shots. All of these are unprocessed, 
> straight from the camera except for a square crop on all in part for 
> composition and in part to provide roughly equivalent views of the subject. 
> If anybody wants to pixel-peep, compare settings etc, I would be glad to 
> share the rest of the set (images shot at /5.6, /11.0, and /16.)
> For those that want more of the gory details, the long edge, before and after 
> cropping: 645Z 8256 ->  5824; K-1 7360 -> 4908; K-3 6193 -> 4128
> 
> [4]
>a - I’ve said it before, but I don’t think Pentax has ever made a bad 
> Macro lens.
>b - I don’t understand why the K-3 image seems too bright particularly in 
> the highlight areas. Maybe it is “more accurate” than the older sensors? 
> Maybe I have some random setting set wrongly? Is it a metering thing due to 
> using a PK-A lens on this one rather than a D FA as on the others? In any 
> case, I prefer the tonality of the other two.
>c - I do miss having a flip-out screen on the K-3iii for composing and 
> focusing.
>d - the wonderfu

Re: sure is quiet

[Daniel J. Matyola]

LOL!

Dan Matyola
*https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
*



On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 4:32 PM Larry Colen  wrote:

>
>
> > On May 22, 2021, at 11:14 AM, John  wrote:
> >
> > I don't often offer criticism because my own photography isn't that
> great. And I don't much care to be a "me too" …
>
> You are probably the person who is least qualified to judge the quality of
> your photography.  Also, ability to do something has no bearing on how much
> you might like it.  There are people who have made millions of dollars from
> their music, which I can’t stand to listen to.  If I were to sing in
> public, people would be more likely to pay me to stop.
>
> There is also a huge difference between criticism, critique and
> discussion.
>
> I think I would like that photo more if it were cropped more tightly on
> the part I find interesting.
> I really like the lighting on the subject, how did you do that?
> I’d like it better if the subject were sharper, but I can’t tell whether
> that is motion blur or out of focus.
> and of course the ever popular
> I don’t have anything at all productive to say about this photo, so I’ll
> make a pun about it and start a thread that lasts five times as long as any
> serious discussion about photography.
>
>
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Re: sure is quiet

[Larry Colen]

> On May 22, 2021, at 11:14 AM, John  wrote:
> 
> I don't often offer criticism because my own photography isn't that great. 
> And I don't much care to be a "me too" …

You are probably the person who is least qualified to judge the quality of your 
photography.  Also, ability to do something has no bearing on how much you 
might like it.  There are people who have made millions of dollars from their 
music, which I can’t stand to listen to.  If I were to sing in public, people 
would be more likely to pay me to stop.

There is also a huge difference between criticism, critique and discussion.  

I think I would like that photo more if it were cropped more tightly on the 
part I find interesting.
I really like the lighting on the subject, how did you do that?
I’d like it better if the subject were sharper, but I can’t tell whether that 
is motion blur or out of focus.
and of course the ever popular
I don’t have anything at all productive to say about this photo, so I’ll make a 
pun about it and start a thread that lasts five times as long as any serious 
discussion about photography.


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Re: OT - Golden Vanity

[John]

On 5/22/2021 16:06:19, Steve Cottrell wrote:

Zero Pentax content, but some may be interested in our latest video about a 
1908 gaff-rigged cutter called Golden Vanity, newly refitted and sailing in 
southern England.

Camera was a Sony F3 and mostly Nikkor 17-35/2.8 but a bit of Canon 24-105/4 as 
well

Running time about 13 minutes.



Cheers all

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... sailed upon the lowland sea"?


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Re: Semi-OT: Ektar 25

[John]

DUH!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdonEDPaEuo

On 5/22/2021 14:54:05, John wrote:

But at 11:01 someone familiar gets a mention.



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OT - Golden Vanity

[Steve Cottrell]

Zero Pentax content, but some may be interested in our latest video about a 
1908 gaff-rigged cutter called Golden Vanity, newly refitted and sailing in 
southern England.

Camera was a Sony F3 and mostly Nikkor 17-35/2.8 but a bit of Canon 24-105/4 as 
well

Running time about 13 minutes.



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Re: Pentax drone photography?

[Underpaid N. Overpentaxed]

If you want I can put you in touch with the right people to build or sell
you one and teach you the basics

Underpaid N. Overpentaxed  schrieb am Sa. 22. Mai
2021 um 22:03:

> Yes, you would need something like an X Class drone or an 8 motor cine
> rig. Expect to pay North of 5 grand, and a steep learning curve. Start in a
> sim if you can’t afford to crash
>
> John  schrieb am Sa. 22. Mai 2021 um 22:01:
>
>> Is there a drone that might be able to hoist a Pentax DSLR.
>>
>> I've seen some inspiring drone nature photography lately, but no *Pentax*
>> drone
>> photography, so I'm wondering how you might go about doing it.
>>
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[Underpaid N. Overpentaxed]

Yes, you would need something like an X Class drone or an 8 motor cine rig.
Expect to pay North of 5 grand, and a steep learning curve. Start in a sim
if you can’t afford to crash

John  schrieb am Sa. 22. Mai 2021 um 22:01:

> Is there a drone that might be able to hoist a Pentax DSLR.
>
> I've seen some inspiring drone nature photography lately, but no *Pentax*
> drone
> photography, so I'm wondering how you might go about doing it.
>
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Pentax drone photography?

[John]

Is there a drone that might be able to hoist a Pentax DSLR.

I've seen some inspiring drone nature photography lately, but no *Pentax* drone 
photography, so I'm wondering how you might go about doing it.


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Trying some things, thinking about cameras...

[Stanley Halpin]

Three parts, skip to #3 if you like. 
[1] = background on my camera stuff; 
[2] = philosophical musings on why do I have this stuff and how am I 
using it; and 
[3] = link to small gallery of shots comparing 3 Pentax bodies, each 
with one of three Pentax macro lenses. Oh, and then 
[4] = my lessons learned and thoughts about what’s next.

[1] My name is Stan and I am a camera equipment addict. Current inventory of 
DSLRs includes 2 @ K-1ii, 1 @ 645Z, and 1 @ K-3iii. I will leave aside the 
GRiii and K-01 and Q-S1 and WG-5 and WG-M1 at this point.

[2] In my defense, I don’t just buy stuff, I use my cameras and I even 
sometimes sell cameras and/or bodies which I am not using. Also, since almost 
forever, I do not like to be in a situation where I am without a decent camera. 
Which mens that, when I travel or when I go out for a day to hunt flowers or 
birds or barns or whatever, I like to have 2 camera bodies with me, just in 
case one stops working. And, yes, I carry spare batteries and spare SD cards.
[Side story. 1998. There I was, in a dugout canoe, being taken across a 
large lagoon in Panama on the way to a native tribal village for a visit and 
likely interesting photos. My reason for the Panama trip was work-related, I 
did not know I would be able to get any time on my own for a side trip like 
this, only took one camera, my relatively new Pz-1p with FA 28-105. A 
alligator/crocodile popped his head up to watch us. I took a quick snap, 
realized that I had just used the last shot on that roll of film. Quickly 
rewound, pulled out another roll, opened the camera back, pulled out the used 
roll, started to put in the fresh roll, the canoe rocked a bit, I put my thumb 
through the cloth shutter curtain. I really really hate it when I don’t have a 
backup with me.] 

I think of the K-1 as my main cameras. The 645Z is just very special. I bought 
my first 6456Z a few months before a long trip in Alaska, planning to use it to 
replicate some of Ansel Adam’s views of Denali. I later sold that body, 
primarily because it doesn’t have SR except unless you buy a newer lens with SR 
in the lens. And those newer lenses cost almost as much as the body. Then 
fairly recently bought a used 645Z and 90/2.8 SR lens at a very attractive 
package price. I got the K-3iii a few weeks ago, primarily attracted by the 
stories of super continuous AF, great for moving targets like birds in flight. 
My thought was to sell one of the K-1 bodies, use the K-3iii as my “back-up” 
camera when traveling. With the added advantages of good AF and the APS-C crop 
factor to help on longer shots.

The dilemma. An Azalea bush and a Rhododendron bush or two are flowering in our 
yard. I headed out to do some macro shots of the buds and flowers. First 
thought was to take the 645Z. But wait I have this super new camera, I should 
use that… I have since done a bit of dithering and “test” shots, culminating 
this morning in an evenly lit breeze-free opportunity to do four shots (/5.6, 
/8.0, /11.0, and /16) with each of the following (all at ISO100, manually 
focused): a) 645Z with D FA 90/2.8 Macro ED AW SR; b) K-3iii with PK-A 50/2.8 
Macro; and c) K-1ii with D FA 100/2.8  Macro WR.

[3] The gallery:
 https://adobe.ly/3fwx4wc

In order these three shots, all at f/8.0, are 645Z, K-3iii, and K-1ii. 
The 4th image shows the set up for the shots. All of these are unprocessed, 
straight from the camera except for a square crop on all in part for 
composition and in part to provide roughly equivalent views of the subject. If 
anybody wants to pixel-peep, compare settings etc, I would be glad to share the 
rest of the set (images shot at /5.6, /11.0, and /16.)
For those that want more of the gory details, the long edge, before and after 
cropping: 645Z 8256 ->  5824; K-1 7360 -> 4908; K-3 6193 -> 4128

[4]
a - I’ve said it before, but I don’t think Pentax has ever made a bad 
Macro lens.
b - I don’t understand why the K-3 image seems too bright particularly 
in the highlight areas. Maybe it is “more accurate” than the older sensors? 
Maybe I have some random setting set wrongly? Is it a metering thing due to 
using a PK-A lens on this one rather than a D FA as on the others? In any case, 
I prefer the tonality of the other two.
c - I do miss having a flip-out screen on the K-3iii for composing and 
focusing.
d - the wonderfulness of the viewfinder on the K-3iii was much hyped 
and acclaimed in Pentax publicity and early reviews. They are right, it is a 
fine viewfinder.

e - But, so what? Do I keep the K-3iii and sell one of the K-1 bodies? 
Ironically, my main usage of the K-3iii APS-C with wonderful viewfinder and 
wonderful  tracking AF would be to use this body paired with my DA* 300/4.0 and 
optionally including the DA 1.4x teleconverter. So, a good bird-shooting rig. I 
say “ironically” because the SDM on my 300/4 died a few months ag

Semi-OT: Ektar 25

[John]

But at 11:01 someone familiar gets a mention.

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Re: Peso.: Still Life with Herbs

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Nice image.
Almost everything tastes good with feta cheese.

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On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 2:06 PM Bill  wrote:

> It's cold, rainy and grey outside.
> We picked up a several lifetimes supply of a very nice "Greek" seasoning.
> I have no idea if it is any sort of authentic, but we like it, as has
> everyone we have fed it to.
> It's really nice on chicken baked with feta cheese.
>
> Anyway, enough about me, it's supposed to be about the picture.
>
> And here is where you can find it:
>
> https://flic.kr/p/2m11pPN
>
> Technical stuff:
>
> Pentax K1, D FA*85/1.4 at f1.4, 1/250, ISO 500.
>
> enjoy
>
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Re: sure is quiet

[John]

I don't often offer criticism because my own photography isn't that great. And I 
don't much care to be a "me too" ...


Which is hard sometimes, because y'all have probably figured out by now, I have 
an opinion on just about everything, and I'm not shy about expressing them.


On 5/21/2021 15:20:06, ann sanfedele wrote:
Paul - but I think Rick is talking about actual critiquing...   which is frowned 
upon among friends on FB.on any subject.  we either get Likes or loves or wows 
or giggles (expressed in emojis) or occasionally a "wonder how that would look 
in BW" from our photo friends or other friends..


ann

On 5/21/2021 5:07 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

You can get far more comments posting photos on Facebook.

Paul


On May 20, 2021, at 9:42 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:

Tooo quiet… A bit more than half the number of posts we had during the same 
week last year.


It’s become unusual to get more than two or three comments on a photo (or 
series of them). This makes me sad, because this group has helped make my 
photography what it is (for better or worse?).


According to pdml.net there are 527 of us. Where is everyone?

Rick


On May 20, 2021, at 7:40 PM, John Francis  wrote:


On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 10:05:53PM +0100, Steve Cottrell wrote:
Well, all pubs have at least one bar ;-)

Not entirely true.

When my girlfriend and I were caravan touring in North Wales
(with an itinerary set from information in the Good Beer Guide)
we ended up at one pub which was basically just the front room
of a house; beer was obtained via a hatchway to the kitchen
where there were a couple of casks sitting on a shelf.
The pub was a couple of miles up a hill (along a very narrow
road; there wouldn't have been anywhere to turn round).
When we walked in we got some very suspicious looks - not
only were we strangers, but one was a woman!  (the only other
woman there was the person serving the drinks). When we asked
for two pints you could sense the tension in the room subside.
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Re: sure is quiet

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On 5/22/2021 9:05 AM, Rick Womer wrote:

Bill,

I’ve been missing your comments and photos in particular.


Well, I just uploaded a couple of PESOs


How are things out there on the prairie?



Cold, rainy and boring. Hence the pictures of jars of spices.

I rarely have my computer on nowadays. I really don't use it unless I 
have pictures to develop. Consequently, I am doing things like reading 
my email on my phone. I don't do well sending emails from my phone.


Things are good out your way?

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Re: Peseo: Max

[Daniel J. Matyola]

What adorable eyes!

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On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 2:29 PM Bill  wrote:

> Max is our little rescue.
> Well, if you consider 46 pounds to be little.
>
> https://flic.kr/p/2m15Zvj
>
> Technical stuff
>
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Peseo: Max

[Bill]

Max is our little rescue.
Well, if you consider 46 pounds to be little.

https://flic.kr/p/2m15Zvj

Technical stuff

Pentax K1 D FA* 85/1.4 @ f/3.5, 1/40 second, ISO 1

enjoy

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Re: Henk's shot

[John]

Click on the little grid thingy in the upper right and it takes you right to the 
PUG it's in.


I like the idea that a pub would welcome our canine companions.

On 5/21/2021 20:12:00, Rick Womer wrote:

In the middle of our discussion of the recently-soporific PDML, Ann re-posted 
and commented on a photo from Henk:

http://pug.komkon.org/18mar/slides/HT-kroeg-delft-IMGP0259-2.html

That is a brilliant shot—the colors, the lighting, the composition, the 
expression on the dog’s face all just work wonderfully.

I don’t recall seeing it before, and I can’t find it on the PUG site.

In any case… well done, Henk!

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Peso.: Still Life with Herbs

[Bill]

It's cold, rainy and grey outside.
We picked up a several lifetimes supply of a very nice "Greek" seasoning.
I have no idea if it is any sort of authentic, but we like it, as has 
everyone we have fed it to.

It's really nice on chicken baked with feta cheese.

Anyway, enough about me, it's supposed to be about the picture.

And here is where you can find it:

https://flic.kr/p/2m11pPN

Technical stuff:

Pentax K1, D FA*85/1.4 at f1.4, 1/250, ISO 500.

enjoy

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Re: sure is quiet

[Rick Womer]

Bill,

I’ve been missing your comments and photos in particular. 

How are things out there on the prairie?

Rick

> On May 22, 2021, at 9:56 AM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> On Fri., May 21, 2021, 6:36 a.m. Rick Womer,  wrote:
> 
>> I am more interested in quality from friends than quantity from strangers.
>> 
> 
> I'll just keep staying quiet then.
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On Fri., May 21, 2021, 6:36 a.m. Rick Womer,  wrote:

> I am more interested in quality from friends than quantity from strangers.
>

I'll just keep staying quiet then.


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Re: Henk's shot

[Henk Terhell]

Thanks Rick and Ann.
That was PUG March 2018 on Arches.  At that time I couldn't find a pic 
on arches in an architectural or geological context so I sought in my 
archives for some other.
Taken with the DA21/3.2, a real gem. However it stayed in my cupboard 
for too long so last week I sold this lens to get money for the DA 
55-300 PLM .


Henk

In the middle of our discussion of the recently-soporific PDML, Ann re-posted 
and commented on a photo from Henk:

http://pug.komkon.org/18mar/slides/HT-kroeg-delft-IMGP0259-2.html

That is a brilliant shot—the colors, the lighting, the composition, the 
expression on the dog’s face all just work wonderfully.

I don’t recall seeing it before, and I can’t find it on the PUG site.

In any case… well done, Henk!

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[Bob Pdml]

I don’t know why they named a river after a book company, but Salgado has been 
taking pictures there.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-57162597

His work is like the monumental novels that the 19th century writers used to 
write.

On topic: he started out using his wife’s Spotmatic.

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Re: Henk's shot

[Alan C]

And those shoes to match the dog.

Alan C

On 22-May-21 02:12 AM, Rick Womer wrote:

In the middle of our discussion of the recently-soporific PDML, Ann re-posted 
and commented on a photo from Henk:

http://pug.komkon.org/18mar/slides/HT-kroeg-delft-IMGP0259-2.html

That is a brilliant shot—the colors, the lighting, the composition, the 
expression on the dog’s face all just work wonderfully.

I don’t recall seeing it before, and I can’t find it on the PUG site.

In any case… well done, Henk!

Rick
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