RE: June PUG is up
From: Bob W PDML wrote: I bet there are quite a few old puggers who, like me, still have some of their old film gear. A couple of years ago I resurrected my old MX and decided to submit to the PUG to keep the camera active. Shooting film these days is a whole different kettle of beeswax to the old days, because it’s so expensive. But it also makes it very different from shooting digital, and makes best use of those old but amazing lenses. So I’d encourage anyone who still has some Pentax film gear, even if they’re not shooting Pentax digital, to push a roll of film through once a month and somehow make whatever you get fit a PUG theme. - I still have an MX, LX & K2DMD. From time to time I put a roll of film through them, simply because I like the feel of them and the lenses I bought many years ago still do a good job. I record the everyday ordinary and it's interesting to see how areas change in a way you don't see day to day. It doesn't often fit any theme at all but I'll happily enjoy those who submit images which do. Malcolm -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New photos on line
Only a Brit could ever write these words in such close proximity. > On 31 May 2024, at 04:38, mike wilson wrote: > > much more intimate. Especially with a Llama. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe Brouhaha
Am 06.06.24 um 23:13 schrieb l...@red4est.com: Thoughts? Or adobe? Thoughts about Adobe. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog :http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio :http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Fotos :https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012 -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe Brouhaha
On June 6, 2024 1:39:28 PM PDT, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: >Am 06.06.24 um 19:59 schrieb Larry Colen: >> Thoughts? > >Thank Heavens I have nothing to do with them anymore. Thoughts? Or adobe? > >Ralf > -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe Brouhaha
Am 06.06.24 um 19:59 schrieb Larry Colen: Thoughts? Thank Heavens I have nothing to do with them anymore. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog :http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio :http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Fotos :https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012 -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe Brouhaha
These squabbles don’t bother me. PhotoShop is my lifeblood, and it has been for 25 years. I use the cloud version for about ten bucks a month, and I don’t store anything on Adobe servers. I use my own storage and Dropbox. What’s more, PhotoShop gets better every year. No complaints. Paul > On Jun 6, 2024, at 1:59 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > There seems to be a lot of sound and fury going around the net about this > section of Adobe licensing: > 4.2 Licenses to Your Content. Solely for the purposes of operating or > improving the Services and Software, you grant us a non-exclusive, worldwide, > royalty-free sublicensable, license, to use, reproduce, publicly display, > distribute, modify, create derivative works based on, publicly perform, and > translate the Content. For example, we may sublicense our right to the > Content to our service providers or to other users to allow the Services and > Software to operate as intended, such as enabling you to share photos with > others. Separately, section 4.6 (Feedback) below covers any Feedback that you > provide to us. > > 4.3 Ownership. As between you and Adobe, you (as a Business User or a > Personal User, as applicable) retain all rights and ownership of your Content > (or where applicable, you must ensure that you or the Business (as > applicable) have a valid license to the Content). We do not claim any > ownership rights to your Content. > > > I read 4.2 as giving Adobe permission to share your content with other > services so that you can, for example, post photos you keep on their servers > to other sites like facebook. > > Thoughts? > > -- > Larry Colen > l...@red4est.com sent from ret13est > > > > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe Brouhaha
It calls to mind an old gem from the PDML quotations list (I forget what year): "Any harm I can do Adobe will be done with a song in my heart" - Mike Wilson Jun 6, 2024 1:59:19 PM Larry Colen : > There seems to be a lot of sound and fury going around the net about this > section of Adobe licensing: > 4.2 Licenses to Your Content. Solely for the purposes of operating or > improving the Services and Software, you grant us a non-exclusive, worldwide, > royalty-free sublicensable, license, to use, reproduce, publicly display, > distribute, modify, create derivative works based on, publicly perform, and > translate the Content. For example, we may sublicense our right to the > Content to our service providers or to other users to allow the Services and > Software to operate as intended, such as enabling you to share photos with > others. Separately, section 4.6 (Feedback) below covers any Feedback that you > provide to us. > > 4.3 Ownership. As between you and Adobe, you (as a Business User or a > Personal User, as applicable) retain all rights and ownership of your Content > (or where applicable, you must ensure that you or the Business (as > applicable) have a valid license to the Content). We do not claim any > ownership rights to your Content. > > > I read 4.2 as giving Adobe permission to share your content with other > services so that you can, for example, post photos you keep on their servers > to other sites like facebook. > > Thoughts? > > -- > Larry Colen > l...@red4est.com sent from ret13est > > > > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Adobe Brouhaha
There seems to be a lot of sound and fury going around the net about this section of Adobe licensing: 4.2 Licenses to Your Content. Solely for the purposes of operating or improving the Services and Software, you grant us a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free sublicensable, license, to use, reproduce, publicly display, distribute, modify, create derivative works based on, publicly perform, and translate the Content. For example, we may sublicense our right to the Content to our service providers or to other users to allow the Services and Software to operate as intended, such as enabling you to share photos with others. Separately, section 4.6 (Feedback) below covers any Feedback that you provide to us. 4.3 Ownership. As between you and Adobe, you (as a Business User or a Personal User, as applicable) retain all rights and ownership of your Content (or where applicable, you must ensure that you or the Business (as applicable) have a valid license to the Content). We do not claim any ownership rights to your Content. I read 4.2 as giving Adobe permission to share your content with other services so that you can, for example, post photos you keep on their servers to other sites like facebook. Thoughts? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from ret13est -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: June PUG is up
>> >> Enjoy the (disappointingly small) gallery here: >> >> http://pug.komkon.org/ > > Unfortunately I suspect the number of contributors will continue to decline. > > It's been 2 1/2 years since I picked up a Pentax (except for yesterday when > I charged up the K5 and checked that it still appeared to be in working > order). > > I was never a frequent contributor to the PUG, but during that time there have > been a few galleries where I would have been tempted to submit something. > I know I'm not the only PDMLer who has, for various reasons, switched to a > different brand. I may be using an Olympus now, but I still think of myself > as a PDMLer; I haven't even looked for an Olympus User's Group I could join. I bet there are quite a few old puggers who, like me, still have some of their old film gear. A couple of years ago I resurrected my old MX and decided to submit to the PUG to keep the camera active. Shooting film these days is a whole different kettle of beeswax to the old days, because it’s so expensive. But it also makes it very different from shooting digital, and makes best use of those old but amazing lenses. So I’d encourage anyone who still has some Pentax film gear, even if they’re not shooting Pentax digital, to push a roll of film through once a month and somehow make whatever you get fit a PUG theme. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: June PUG is up
On 6/5/2024 8:05 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: Am 05.06.24 um 13:33 schrieb Brian Walters: Enjoy the (disappointingly small) gallery here: Not for want of trying. I've scrolled through years and years of photos and haven't been able to find anything 'abstract'. So, hats off to those who have found something to contribute. Special kudos to Ann and Henk. Ralf I had several, but none taken with Pentax camera or lens. (I've had a couple of canon point 'n shoot digitals.) -- Vivere in aeternum aut mori conatur -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.