Re: Motherboard upgrade: Seeking advice from all (but it's probably gonna be mostly from Larry)

2024-07-06 Thread Bill


On 7/6/2024 1:10 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Bill wrote:


That's pretty much what my build was last year. I ended up with the
Aorus x670E Master but a little less processor, I put in the Ryzen 7
7700X. I stayed with Gigabyte for the video card, but mine is also a
3060 with 12gb ram.

When I was bench marking stuff I discovered that my intended MB was
slower with 128gb of ram than it was with 64 so I went with less ram. I
figured using the M.2 cards as swap would be fine, and so far I've only
gone to swap a few times with 64b, and that was with hugely deep focus
stacks off the X-T5 where it's decided a hundred exposures are required.

Here's what I bought for a CPU cooler:
https://www.newegg.com/noctua-nh-d15-chromax-black/p/13C-0005-00324?Item=9SIAADYA5G4033
The second fan is optional, which is a good thing because it won't fit
in my application. Not being a gamer, I really doubt I'll ever push
this system to the point where I need a second fan.
With the variable-speed fans that only run as fast as necessary it's
really quiet in my usage.


I water cooled my system. Partly because I wanted to, and partly because 
it was recommended. I've seen a couple of fan coolers that I could have 
used.


Even with liquid cooling I've had CPU temps in the mid 90ºC range when 
doing some heavy image processing. It won't stay there for long, but 
when I'm doing a big focus stack it will jump quite high and then settle 
back into the 60º range.


bill
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Re: Motherboard upgrade: Seeking advice from all (but it's probably gonna be mostly from Larry)

2024-07-06 Thread Alex Sarbu
On Sat, Jul 6, 2024 at 10:48 PM Mark Roberts  wrote:
>
> Bill wrote:
>
> >That's pretty much what my build was last year. I ended up with the
> >Aorus x670E Master but a little less processor, I put in the Ryzen 7
> >7700X. I stayed with Gigabyte for the video card, but mine is also a
> >3060 with 12gb ram.
> >
> >When I was bench marking stuff I discovered that my intended MB was
> >slower with 128gb of ram than it was with 64 so I went with less ram. I
> >figured using the M.2 cards as swap would be fine, and so far I've only
> >gone to swap a few times with 64b, and that was with hugely deep focus
> >stacks off the X-T5 where it's decided a hundred exposures are required.
>
> Here's what I bought for a CPU cooler:
> https://www.newegg.com/noctua-nh-d15-chromax-black/p/13C-0005-00324?Item=9SIAADYA5G4033
> The second fan is optional, which is a good thing because it won't fit
> in my application. Not being a gamer, I really doubt I'll ever push
> this system to the point where I need a second fan.
> With the variable-speed fans that only run as fast as necessary it's
> really quiet in my usage.

No reason to go watercooling when there are air coolers like that.
Quieter and less problematic - can't have a water leak if there's no
water.
I'll upgrade my PC someday (probably not this year), and my planned
solution looks similar to yours. Except I'll go Zen 5 (Ryzen 9700X,
likely), as they'll be available by then.

Regards,
Alex
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Re: Motherboard upgrade: Seeking advice from all (but it's probably gonna be mostly from Larry)

2024-07-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Bill wrote:

>That's pretty much what my build was last year. I ended up with the 
>Aorus x670E Master but a little less processor, I put in the Ryzen 7 
>7700X. I stayed with Gigabyte for the video card, but mine is also a 
>3060 with 12gb ram.
>
>When I was bench marking stuff I discovered that my intended MB was 
>slower with 128gb of ram than it was with 64 so I went with less ram. I 
>figured using the M.2 cards as swap would be fine, and so far I've only 
>gone to swap a few times with 64b, and that was with hugely deep focus 
>stacks off the X-T5 where it's decided a hundred exposures are required.

Here's what I bought for a CPU cooler:
https://www.newegg.com/noctua-nh-d15-chromax-black/p/13C-0005-00324?Item=9SIAADYA5G4033
The second fan is optional, which is a good thing because it won't fit
in my application. Not being a gamer, I really doubt I'll ever push
this system to the point where I need a second fan.
With the variable-speed fans that only run as fast as necessary it's
really quiet in my usage.
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Re: Motherboard upgrade: Seeking advice from all (but it's probably gonna be mostly from Larry)

2024-07-06 Thread Bill
That's pretty much what my build was last year. I ended up with the 
Aorus x670E Master but a little less processor, I put in the Ryzen 7 
7700X. I stayed with Gigabyte for the video card, but mine is also a 
3060 with 12gb ram.


When I was bench marking stuff I discovered that my intended MB was 
slower with 128gb of ram than it was with 64 so I went with less ram. I 
figured using the M.2 cards as swap would be fine, and so far I've only 
gone to swap a few times with 64b, and that was with hugely deep focus 
stacks off the X-T5 where it's decided a hundred exposures are required.


Did you go with liquid cooling or air?

bill


On 7/6/2024 11:43 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

l...@red4est.com  wrote:


I went with a Gigabyte B650 Aorus (where do they get these ridiculous
names?) motherboard and an AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D processor. Far from the
most powerful kit you can get these days but under a grand (with
cooler, memory and M.2 SSD included). I went with a RTX 3060 graphics
card as Per Toine's recommendation (I got the MSI Ventus GeForce RTX
3060 with 12G onboard memory).


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Re: Motherboard upgrade: Seeking advice from all (but it's probably gonna be mostly from Larry)

2024-07-06 Thread Mark Roberts
l...@red4est.com wrote:

>Can you post details, my boss would like a faster computer but hates Windows 
>11.

I don't blame him. The privacy intrusion stuff is enough to keep me
off Win 11. And there are no improvements that are enticing enough to
tempt me. (I'm running the "Open Shell" interface to rid myself of the
wretched Windows 10 interface.)

I went with a Gigabyte B650 Aorus (where do they get these ridiculous
names?) motherboard and an AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D processor. Far from the
most powerful kit you can get these days but under a grand (with
cooler, memory and M.2 SSD included). I went with a RTX 3060 graphics
card as Per Toine's recommendation (I got the MSI Ventus GeForce RTX
3060 with 12G onboard memory).

>Related, what's the fastest laptop that runs Windows 10?

I don't think there's any Windows 11 laptop that won't run Windows 10.
And plenty of places that still have stock of Windows 10 installation
packages.
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Re: Motherboard upgrade: Seeking advice from all (but it's probably gonna be mostly from Larry)

2024-07-06 Thread Toine
Upgrading win 10 to 11 is pretty straightforward if I remember correctly.
And the GUI is identical, I don't see why you can hate Win11 and love
Win10. Microsoft is still weeding out old Win10 code and if you deep dive
in the system the old stuff is still running (like control panel, device
manager etc). The Settings app is not my favorite tool to tweak, the same
for Apple OS's settings app (maybe that's improved but my Mac Mini from
2012 is frozen by Apple).

On Fri, 5 Jul 2024 at 23:18,  wrote:

> Can you post details, my boss would like a faster computer but hates
> Windows 11.
>
> Related, what's the fastest laptop that runs Windows 10?
>
> On July 5, 2024 2:14:25 PM PDT, Mark Roberts 
> wrote:
> >So in the end, after doing some research based on input from the PDML,
> >I bought a motherboard/CPU package and a new graphics board. I spent
> >several hours today installing the new motherboard (the cooling system
> >I got for the new CPU, although far from the most extensive available,
> >is freakin' HUGE!) and graphics card. Here's the most amazing thing:
> >Windows 10 just booted right up. Yup. Recognized the new hardware and
> >installed drivers almost instantly. You could have knocked me over
> >with a feather! It's still early days but I can already tell this is
> >MUCH faster. Some deconvolution sharpening actions on K-1 files that
> >used to take minutes now take seconds. Big fun.
> >
> >Since it's been a loong time since I've refreshed this system (and
> >I've done too much tinkering in the interim) I'll do an OS refresh and
> >reinstall apps when I have more free time, just to be safe. But for
> >now I'm really happy.
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Re: PESO: emperor dragonflies

2024-07-06 Thread Henk Terhell



Thanks Ralf.
Yes, parents should be warned for their Sunday walk with the kids in the 
woods.


Henk

Op 2024-07-05 om 19:07 schreef Ralf R Radermacher:

Am 05.07.24 um 14:13 schrieb Henk Terhell:
This for me is the first time I was able to shoot a pair of emperor 
dragonflies.


Great shot but shouldn't this have a PG rating. ;-)

Ralf


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Re: PESO: emperor dragonflies

2024-07-06 Thread Henk Terhell
Some dragonflies do indeed hover, so you have sometimes one or more 
seconds.
The fast emperor is not one of these, but I have earlier taken some in 
flight pics in the way you shoot on a racing circuit.


The PLM is a fast and silent lens, however all Pentax bodies (perhaps 
except the K-3 III) are weak in AF.
I'm shooting dragonflies in flight in AF-S with single point, because 
AF-C is unusable.

Would be nice to work with fast AF of one of the mirrorless systems.

Henk

Op 2024-07-05 om 18:46 schreef Alan C:
Henk, that PML does so well - way better than my screw drive HD on the 
K5. Another opportunity would be when they hover.


Alan C

On 05-Jul-24 02:13 PM, Henk Terhell wrote:
This for me is the first time I was able to shoot a pair of emperor 
dragonflies.
Just plain luck to see them 'in copula', busy shaking off another 
attacking dragonfly, close to where I was standing on the edge of woods.
These emperors are always very fast in flight and the only other 
chance to shoot one is when the female is laying eggs on the water 
surface.


https://flic.kr/p/2q26KAT

Henk

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