Re: PESO: also wierd

[Pat Temmerman]

MAGNIFICENT!


On 09/07/2020 19:42, Stanley Halpin wrote:

A bit late for this month…
The original negative shown here was shot with an ME-Super in the late 1990s. 
It was recently “processed” via long term immersion in flood waters. Captured 
today with a 645Z + macro lens…

And no, I don’t know what the original subject was. I have some that permit a 
good guess as to the original, but not so much this one.

Stan

https://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/eea19e72f


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Re: PESO: Shroom

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Like it. Very 'Japanese'

On 13/06/2020 18:55, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Another attempt at a natural abstract.

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2020/6/13/shroom

K-5 IIs, smc FA 100 mm Macro F 2.8, on tripod
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Re: PESO potato potahto

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not bad, but maybe you'd want to cut the whole thing off...

On 11/06/2020 05:22, Larry Colen wrote:

On my way to plant some spuds that sprouted, I got sidetracked for a bit with 
my dfa 100 macro

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OT - too long, not approprite - don't care

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 Long down mentaily alert!!!

A bit of an off-topic photo industry ditty (off-topic, not Pentax). Just 
one of those random recalls of the past. Through the 80s/90s I worked 
for a Japanese marketing company that supplied various brands of camera 
equipment (later expanded to audio/TV – different stories) For retail 
sales on US military bases globally. If any of you bought your first 
equipment somewhere on a Army, Air Force, Navy base in Asia or Europe in 
was supplied by my crowd or 1 or 2 others. This was a serious, 
well-established industry. Tokyo HQ, fully staffed sales orgs in 
Okinawa, Philippines, Viet Nam, and Europe. I was a Europe guy.


Anyway, early/mid 80s our primary product line was Minolta – just 
nipping the heels for #1 position from Canon. We sponsored in-store 
displays, active sales, special sales and occasional free camera 
cleaning clinics. (We got great tech from Minolta Germany even though 
our business was totally outside their business loop). Three – four 
times a year they'd send a Japanese factory tech out that I would haul 
around for a week our so to the bigger US bases like Frankfurt, 
Stuttgart, Nuernberg, Kaiserslautern.


Saturday morning, Stuttgart. (Stuttgart was always Saturday morning...) 
Guy brings in his 101. Disgruntled. I looked at it at it felt, well ….. 
sticky. Asked if something had perhaps, spilt. Nope. No spills. Wants a 
completed refund on a 6 month old kit – lenses, filters, et al.


Over to the tech to have a look. Have you ever seen one of these factory 
guys take a camera apart? Screw driver in each hand and – buzz – piles 
of parts about 30 seconds later. Everything separated and organized. 
Every screw in an exact place to be reinserted. Bare bones. Film advance 
lever, rewind mechanism, base cap, top gone, top most circuit board 
laying exposed to the elements. Slight sticky-looking gleam on the 
board. Tech finally looks up at the horrified GI – he couldn't believe 
the full-out assault on his camera! - and simply said 'Coke?'


Mr. horrified GI really cut loose – lawsuits! damnation! second invasion 
of Japan! and refundrefundrefund!


Never taking his eyes of the customer, the tech picked up the 101 and 
gave it a long, slow, clean lick from one end of the circuit board to 
the other and simply said 'orange juice'.


Tech produced a plastic bag, swept all the camera components and debris 
into it, handed back to the GI saying, 'warranty cancel'.


Back to lock down mentality. Notified today we still have 10 days to go.

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Re: D FA* 85mm f/1.4

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In days of yore, this forum would be EX-PLO-DING over any mention of 
'85mm', especially if followed by '1.4'.



On 28/05/2020 02:55, Bill wrote:


I know we don’t talk much about Pentax camera equipment on the PDML, but
for anyone interested, they are releasing a new and very desirable lens in
the very near future.


http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/lens/k/telephoto/hdpentax-dfa-85/

http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/star_lens/special/sp_dfa85-14/


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Re: For the Pentax collector who thinks he has it all

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Did they come from Europe? Did the coating flake off?

On 24/05/2020 22:23, Rick Womer wrote:

I’ve had a couple of pairs of glasses that came with Pentax lens coatings.

Rick


On May 22, 2020, at 1:47 PM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:

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Re: Test

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Made it to Scotland

On 18/05/2020 04:58, Alan C wrote:





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Re: They're back

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And then they will go away again. And then come back again. I was a 
regular Photokina visitor/customer/exhibitor from around 1978 to around 
2010. There was a period of maybe 6 years that someone was showing this 
type of product - just showing and looking for investment. Seems that is 
was the same outfit for of the shows, but each show they had smaller and 
smaller booths.  Seems that nobody beat a path to their door. Their 
mousetrap just wasn't better.


On 18/05/2020 04:29, Larry Colen wrote:

The cool idea that just won’t die

And, they even make it on topic with this spotty:

https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/028/731/584/6d3b8d27fb9dfdb2fe8ac4d84f660fc1_original.gif?ixlib=rb-2.1.0&w=680&fit=max&v=1586911320&auto=format&gif-q=50&q=92&s=ac59ac9840cb207f50ac2686aa38fb03


About $360 with one dedicated back cover

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/samellos/im-back-35-new-version-with-manual-priority-function/description

I think that just about ever photographer that started out with film has wished 
that they could use their old favorite cameras to shoot digital.  The problem 
being that I can’t see the camera feeling right with everything added to it, so 
you’d probably end up with the worst of both worlds. The only advantage I can 
see is that it is nominally cheaper than buying a digital body that you can 
mount the lenses to.

The sensor is a panasonic 34112 image sensor

It turns out that rather than focusing onto the sensor, they have a focusing 
screen, which the imaging sensor takes a photo of. Something that I just can’t 
see improving image quality.

https://backerclub.co/html.php?id=11823
"There is no crop factor? The sensor seems quite small, especially compared to e.g. 
common APS-C sensors these days..."

There will have no crop factor from the size of sensor. The design of this product is called 
"Depth-of-field_adapter" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth-of-field_adapter). In normal 
digital camera, the image from the lens is directly projected onto the sensor. So the smaller the size 
of the sensor, the more the image is cropped which we called crop factor. In this Depth-of-field adapter 
"digital back", the image is projected onto the focusing screen, is almost 24mm x 36mm. And 
then we use a digital camera to take a photo of this focusing screen. You can use a SLR, mirrorless or 
any size of sensor to take this photo from the screen. There is no crop factor." Thanks. A. D. ;-)


What is interesting is the number of people that have already signed up to 
spend $400 on something that should work so much worse with their lenses than a 
used mirrorless body and a lens adapter.

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Re: OT: Can't sleep

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Be well. Stay strong.

On 29/04/2020 06:58, Jeffery Johnson | Photo Captures by Jeffery wrote:
Tried to go to bed but tossed and turned as I have a lot on my mind. 
For the past week or so been going through stuff. I am packing up what 
I will be taking and placing into storage. I at times have to stop 
cause something will bring back a memory and even if it is a happy one 
I start crying.  It feels like it was just yesterday I was packing up 
our stuff from a home we were in for 22 years for the move down here 
and then unpacking and getting our new home settled. Just wish we 
could reverse 2020 and choose a different 2020. I will be moving in 
with my brother and his wife for a bit until I get back on my feet 
again. I am hoping I can afford a small to medium sized home to buy 
instead of renting as I don't want to deal with a chance the rent goes 
up. Maybe I will be able to get out with my camera more than I have 
for several months. Still stressing over monies and still miss my late 
partner every single day.


Well I have rambled on long enough... Thanks for reading ...

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Re: April PUG is up

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Interesting and varied PUG. I really appreciate Nicolai's shot of Park 
Abbey - Leuven was my home for over 20 years and I really miss it! 
Thanks for the trip 'home'!


Pat

On 05/04/2020 05:36, Brian W wrote:

G'day all

Hope everyone is well and maintaining social distancing. Fortunately, due to a
bad case of procrastination over recent months, I'm having no problems in
filling up my time at home :-)

View the April gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery,
let me know.

+

Next up: 'Alleyways'.

Full Submissions Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

You can submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Cheers
Brian
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Re: Pentax MX - BUts and Bolts Review

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Doesn't seem that many years ago that the MX was one of the 'most lusted 
for' SLR in the PDML group. (Didn't you have one, Steve?) Lots of great 
discussions about striking the shutter relase button sharply  - instant 
mirror lock-up! Gotta say it, it is by far my most favorite camera that 
I never owned.


Pat

On 23/03/2020 10:15, Steve Cottrell wrote:





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Re: OT Covid-19

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MARK


On 14/03/2020 19:13, Bob Pdml wrote:

On 14 Mar 2020, at 17:54, William R  wrote:

For reasons unbeknownst to me, toilet paper is what has been bought out at
all the stores around here.


Because every time someone sneezes a hundred other people shit themselves.

https://theconversation.com/why-are-people-stockpiling-toilet-paper-we-asked-four-experts-132975




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Re: Anyone for a PDML Glasgow meet in August?

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Scottish comedian Frankie Boyle recently said that in Scotland, the word 
'f*ckin' ' is just a way of announcing that a noun is to follow'



On 20/02/2020 06:31, mike wilson wrote:

On 20 February 2020 at 03:12 Mark Roberts  wrote:


Lisa's just been invited to speak at a conference in Glasgow in late
August so it seems we're doing a trip to Scotland this year. Details
to follow. But I'm really looking forward to it. No detailed plans
yet.

Entirely feasible.  You'll need a translator.
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Re: Anyone for a PDML Glasgow meet in August?

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Depending on health issues, I'd be more than happy to meet up - I'm 
located about 40 minutes away on the west coast. Although I've not been 
active on the list, I am possibly the longest known lurker. Started 
following PDML antics not long after it started as part of my job.   And 
I remember things, folks I remember things.



On 20/02/2020 03:12, Mark Roberts wrote:

Lisa's just been invited to speak at a conference in Glasgow in late
August so it seems we're doing a trip to Scotland this year. Details
to follow. But I'm really looking forward to it. No detailed plans
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Re: PESO Bicycle on the Roof

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I really like that!

Pat

On 02/02/2020 18:52, Bulent Celasun wrote:

No rival to Godfrey's :)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/49477269203/in/dateposted-public/lightbox/

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Re: January PUG is up

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Years ago our Finnish distributor showed us some pics from a sales 
meeting. Staff photo ourdoors under the time/temp tower showing -28C. I 
commented that was just too damn cold to be outside. He said, No. It's 
not Really cold until -40.


On 14/01/2020 15:11, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Irrelevant. -40 Celsius is -40 Fahrenheit. That’s the  point where the graphs 
intersect.
Paul


On Jan 14, 2020, at 9:57 AM, John  wrote:

F or C?

On 1/10/2020 14:21:16, Bill wrote:

On 1/10/2020 11:47 AM, Alan C wrote:

Having never really been cold or encountered much snow,

You should come over to my place for a weekend later this month when it's -40º
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Re: Panorama redo

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That's a knock out, Larry.  Should make an amazing print.

Pat

On 12/01/2020 19:06, Larry Colen wrote:

A friend wants a print of one of my night time panoramas at Thunderhill 
racetrack:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/49371983416/in/album-72157712631222477/

I’ve never made a print of this particular image so I wanted to go back in and 
make sure everything was just right. One problem with lightroom panoramas is 
that you can’t specify to use a certain piece from a certain image.  Their 
whole stitching process is opaque and unpredictable, but I was eventually able 
to get it to include the bit I wanted it to.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/49371983416/in/album-72157712631222477/

It’s a stitch of images taken with the 15-30, not using astrotracer.  It would 
be really nice if there was software that could stitch the night sky and the 
terrestrial foreground separately.  It would be even nicer if I knew how to use 
it.


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Re: 2019 PDML Quotations List

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20% of a high five..  Thank you, Bruce. You have broadened my 
horizons for dealing with corporate foolery.


On 31/12/2019 21:48, Mark Roberts wrote:

The annual tradition: https://www.robertstech.com/quote.htm

  


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Re: Ano Nuevo Tov Y'all

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/Guten Rutsch/!


On 01/01/2020 19:20, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 01.01.20 um 20:10 schrieb Toine:

Gelukkig Nieuwjaar!


Pross Neujohr. :-)

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Re: OT: OCD

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And one of the main reasons I love Belgium.

On 31/12/2019 11:52, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 31.12.19 um 12:36 schrieb pdm...@gmail.com:

Maybe, but the world is poorer when it loses eccentrics, 
idiosyncratic characters and the individual texture and grain they 
bring. I'm sure however that the last refuge of these types will be 
Belgium.


Or England, once it has been liberated from the homogenising influence
of the EU which makes towns, cities and people in all the rest of Europe
look the same.

Belgium's core competency is and remains surrealism.

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Re: OT: OCD

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Lived in Leuven, Belgium for many years. Had a local hobby / model shop 
that totally ignored normal retail pricing practices. First noticed this 
when we switched from the Belgian Franc to the Euro (exchange rate was 
40 / 1 if I recall), and noticed the prices of models in the guys 
window. Prices like 27.04, 113.87 and such. No rounding up / down to hit 
'price points'. Many months later I noticed that the strange pricing 
continued and realized it had nothing to do with the guy's handling of 
the exchange rates, he was simply working on a fixed mark-up, final 
retail price be damned. Last weeks Leuven news said that the shop was 
finally closing down after 60 years. Whatever his policies, seemed it 
worked for him. (As an aside, for reasons not really relevant, I 
hankered for a model of a C-130A . Went in one day to ask if he could 
get one for me. He basically said 'what you can buy is what you see'. 
Rude bastid. Still, I went by at least once a week to see if there was 
one in the window.


On 30/12/2019 21:44, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 30.12.19 um 22:11 schrieb John:

Took all my collected change from 2019 to the credit union to cash in
today.

Came to $79.99 ... just one penny short of being $80.


I don't know if this is still done, but in my youth Germans would buy
the bride's shoes with 1 and 2 Pfennig coins collected by the whole
tribe over many years.

Belgium has just done away with the monetary chicken food and all shops
now round up or down to the nearest 10 cents. Other euro countries are
thinking about it.

Ralf

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Re: GESO Holiday decorations

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 I don't suppose tey've ever been accused of subtlety...

On 22/12/2019 07:10, Paul Sorenson wrote:
Some people really get into their holiday decorations.  All these are 
from one home.


http://www.studio1941.com/Christmas%20Lawn%202019/index.html#img=Christmas%20Lawn-K3-IMGP4235%20Pano.jpg 



The entire gallery is here...

http://www.studio1941.com/Christmas%20Lawn%202019/index.html

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Re: PESO: Colorful Bike

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Clarly not Frank Theriault's bike.

On 19/11/2019 03:55, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

While following AnnSan through the streets of the East Village, I spotted
this colorful vehicle that belonged to a delivery person who had just
leaned it against a fence while dropping off something inside.

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/11/18/messenger

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Re: The Temple

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Snyder, Hodges, Koufax, Roseboro. I must have been a Brooklyniye at heart.

On 19/11/2019 05:59, Ken Waller wrote:
Mantle, Maris, Berra and Ford were my baseball idols back when 
baseball was a sport.


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- Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 


Subject: PESO: The Temple



Where I worship my idols:

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/11/18/stadium

K-5 IIs, smc DA 18-135 zoom
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Re: GESO: Pacifica Pier

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Love the processing. #14 is quite 'Buhleresque'. Put me somehow in mind 
of your photo of the woman straining on the lead of an angry looking 
barking dog.



On 19/11/2019 01:28, Juan Buhler wrote:

Made over several mornings in the last couple of months. I shot with the
idea of processing in this way--a TMAX 3200 sort of look. Mostly Sony A7 ii
with various lenses, some Pentax, some not. A couple of images are from the
MX-1, Q7 and the KP.

https://lightroom.adobe.com/shares/61b0f64a29014a32a598a354cab3cfc6

Been editing this down, it's at 18 photos now. Still some repetition, I
probably should cull it down to 10-12 images.

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Re: GESO: Basque Region

[Pat Temmerman]

Fantastic series. Nos 1, 11, 12 and 18 really caught my eye. I WANT to 
eat 15.


On 18/11/2019 19:49, Stanley Halpin wrote:

On our recent trip we spent a couple of days in/around Bilbao Spain. On the 2nd 
day I had arranged an all-day tour with a local guide. Well, Zach is originally 
from Detroit, but has lived in that region with his Basque wife for 7 years, so 
more or less “local.” Our group of six traveled along the northern Spanish 
coast to the resort town of San Sebastian. Walked the beach, checked out the 
local market, then slowly back to Bilbao with stops in fishing villages and 
scenic overlooks along the way. And of course some pintxos along the way 
(pintxos are like tapas but intended for serious foodies.)

A good day and a region well worth a longer visit.

Technical notes: most shots were with the K-1ii, D FA 100/2.8 Macro, a few with 
GR-III. The panoramic view of the bay of San Sebastian was stitched in LR from 
10 handheld vertical-format frames shot with the 100mm Macro.

Basque Region Gallery:  
https://lightroom.adobe.com/shares/a791c2ec799c4f8e9d09f776c68e136f

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Re: "Rock's greatest photo"

[Pat Temmerman]

Early 50's our family moved from Arizona to Southern California. Family 
moved and were staying in a dumpy little hotel, waiting for the moving 
van to arrive. And waited. And waited. Seems the guy driving the truck 
got a quick cash offer to do another job and unloaded everything 
somewhere in the desert, did his other job they came back for what was 
left of our stuff. Among the casualties were my Dad's complete 
collection of 78rpm Caruso discs. ALL broken. Believ tht Mom had to 
restrain Dad from making the driver 'see God'.


On 12/11/2019 04:51, Mark Roberts wrote:

Dale H. Cook wrote:


On 11/11/2019 6:41 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


78RPM?

Larry -

You must be a young whippersnapper. Paul said vinyl, and 78s are almost
always shellac. The major exceptions were 78s pressed during and shortly
after WWII, when shellac was in short supply, and some were pressed in
vinyl. :-)

Those shellac discs were notoriously fragile. For example, if you were
to be at a party and accidentally sit on a pile of 78's by the famed
Scots accordionist Jimmy Shands you would certainly earn the wrath of
Richard Thompson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eNbmcVXtRM

  


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Re: PUG Themes for 2020

[Pat Temmerman]

OK we get egrets, but they're just far enough off-shore for the 
400mm. Only other watery birds are some obnoxious swans and occassional 
eider.  And seagulls. Seagulls.


On 11/11/2019 17:06, P. J. Alling wrote:
Waterbirds include egrets, loons, (somehow apropos), and terns among 
others. If all you can find is seagulls you're living in the wrong place.


On 11/11/2019 5:35 AM, Pat Temmerman wrote:

Paws - refuse to borrow a dog just to take pictures of its feet
Waterbirds - I live on the coast. To me, waterbirds can only mean 
seagulls. I Hate seagulls.
Framed - I was the youngest in the family. Always got framed for the 
crimes of others. Still too traumatic...



On 10/11/2019 22:15, Brian W wrote:
Here's a potential list of 15 themes - to be culled down to 12.  
Name your least

favoured!

Framed
Paws
Ancient
Texture
Alleyways
Stormy
Food
Fenceline
Symmetry
Street art
Straight lines
Market place
Dry
Weird
Waterbirds

Cheers
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Re: PUG Themes for 2020

[Pat Temmerman]

for this group.. too easy.


On 11/11/2019 16:56, Ken Waller wrote:

Then we should include “Bent” as a theme.


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The images that bend the theme are often the most interesting!

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On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 9:20 AM William R 
wrote:


Hey Henk. Take a picture of a farmer's field. It's just food that isn't on
a plate yet.

bill


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Re: PUG Themes for 2020

[Pat Temmerman]

believe I could handle those, given permission...

On 11/11/2019 12:05, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 11/11/19, Pat Temmerman, discombobulated, unleashed:


Paws - refuse to borrow a dog just to take pictures of its feet
Waterbirds - I live on the coast. To me, waterbirds can only mean
seagulls. I Hate seagulls.
Framed - I was the youngest in the family. Always got framed for the
crimes of others. Still too traumatic...

Meanwhile in the #altPUG themes list for 2020

Anxiety
Anguish
Desperation
despondency
Gloom
Melancholy
Misery
Pain
Wretchedness
Ordeal
Unease
Panic


->  ;-)



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Re: PUG Themes for 2020

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Paws - refuse to borrow a dog just to take pictures of its feet
Waterbirds - I live on the coast. To me, waterbirds can only mean 
seagulls. I Hate seagulls.
Framed - I was the youngest in the family. Always got framed for the 
crimes of others. Still too traumatic...



On 10/11/2019 22:15, Brian W wrote:

Here's a potential list of 15 themes - to be culled down to 12.  Name your least
favoured!

Framed
Paws
Ancient
Texture
Alleyways
Stormy
Food
Fenceline
Symmetry
Street art
Straight lines
Market place
Dry
Weird
Waterbirds

Cheers
Brian

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Re: Belgium's hidden treasures - was: Spaceship Montzeon

[Pat Temmerman]

Thanks for the link Ralf. I lived longer in Belgium than anywhere else 
(US / German). Regarding the surrealism well, they're just being 
Belgian. Great folk, but all have a cerain 'uniqueness'. Miss the place. 
And have been a real fan of your French/Belgian coastal pics.



On 03/11/2019 21:06, Ralf R Radermacher wrote.

Am 03.11.19 um 21:40 schrieb Pat Temmerman:


Was wondering how you found tht - lived in Belgium for 23 years and
never heard about it.


That's the kind of thing you'll find all over the country if you keep
your eyes open. After a while you develop some kind of sixth sense. It's
happened more than once that I've hit the brake before even consciously
registering what I'd seen.


Belgium is FULL of surprises.


It most certainly is. No surprise that they've invented surrealism.

Let me take the opportunity to direct you all towards the blog of Niko
Cobben, a fellow photographer who is a real genius at unearthing
Belgium's hidden treasures.

https://www.thefleetingworld.nl

Ralf

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Re: PESO: Spaceship Montzeon

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Was wondering how you found tht - lived in Belgium for 23 years and 
never heard about it. Belgium is FULL of surprises.


On 03/11/2019 20:37, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 03.11.19 um 20:49 schrieb Juan Buhler:


If you care about opinions:


I most certainly do.

I had noticed the scene while driving by, so I stopped at the first
possibility to park the car, walked back and tried to find the position
where I had the tower behind the gap in the trees. That's when the sheep
started walking away towards the left. I could move neither forward nor
back because of barbed wire fences. So, I'm afraid this is as good as it
could be. :-)

But, and this applies not only to Juan, I'm always open to and thankful
for opinoins, comments and suggestions.

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Re: Pentax lenses I want

[Pat Temmerman]

Have the DA16-50 and it was my 2nd favorite lens after the 43mm Ltd (or 
maybe most favorite after being introduced to Scottish weather.) We were 
away for a weekend to one of the western islands, decent weather. 
Walking around all day, 16-50 was just fine. Back to the hotel for 
lunch, back out and suddenly found that I had a 20-50. No drops, no 
jolts. Lens just decided that I no longer needed the range from 16 to 
20.  Found some references on this list to this problem, googled it, 
checked service cost and decided that 20-50 wasn't so bad consider the 
weagher sealing. Later decided that it was just too damn big and heavy - 
and obvious - for walking around towns and cities, so I bought a 2nd 
hand DA21 from Japan. Love it. Have since  bought the 28-105WP and tend 
to go with that. Will still drag out the 16 (20) - 50 if I'm feeling a 
bit land-scapey in inclement weather.



On 03/11/2019 13:18, Paul Stenquist wrote:


I have an excellent barely used DA 16-50/2.8. Pentax sent me a new one about 5 
years ago after failing to fix my original one. This was when I was working 
with them a bit on promotions, so I believe they took care to make sure it was 
a good one. Make me an offer.

Paul


On Nov 2, 2019, at 11:02 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:

Actually the lens I want, but can't justify, is the DA 16-50mm f2.8.

I already have a Sigma 17-70 f2.8~4.5 which covers the range, and suits my 
needs most of the time.

Plus the Tamron 17-50mm is a wee bit better optically by all accounts and much 
closer to my budget.

I wouldn't turn my nose up at the Pentax if I could get it for the same price 
as the Tamron, since it probably beats it like a rag doll as far as build 
quality is concerned.


On 11/1/2019 2:12 PM, Juan Buhler wrote:
I figured I'd start a thread about lens lust. Note this is not "lenses I
need". I have too many as it is, covering every focal length I care about
(which doesn't go much further than 100 or 135mm anyway)

DA15/4: I have the DA21mm, and it's an awesome lens. Seems like the 15
would be a great companion to it. I don't really need it, since I have some
zooms that cover this focal length, plus I haven't been shooting with the
KP much anyway.

M20/4: I don't know why I want this one, I just do. I really like the M
lenses. I do have the DA21 Limited for APS, and the Sigma 20/2.8 for APS on
the Sony, and an awesome Zeiss 21/2.8 for full frame on Leicas and Sonys.
And that's without counting the zooms that cover that both on APS and full
frame: I have a 17-70/4, a 12-24/4, and a Canon 17-40/4 that covers full
frame with fast AF via an adaptor on the Sony.

M40/2.8: I just always wanted that little pancake lens. Don't need it, as I
have tons of both 35mm and 50mm lenses, plus a really nice Konica Hexanon
40mm/1.8 that is perfect for the A7ii.

DA20-40: This seems like the perfect street lens for the KP. Been wanting
it since it came out, but never pulled the trigger. Again, I already have
other lenses covering this range.

K85/1.8: I had this lens. It fell from my motorcycle jacket the day I was
getting my istD back in 2004. I never saw it again. It's not a FL I
regularly use so it's hard to justify. I had found it in pristine condition
for under $100 back in the late 90s.

M28/3.5: This was my main 28, my copy seemed to be a lot sharper than what
should be legal. I lost it years ago. I do have an M28/2.8 and the
FA28/2.8, plus a Takumar 28/3.5 (the big barreled one). Oh and I do have
the awesome K30/2.8 and a bunch of other 28s for other mounts, so it's
super hard to justify buying this one.

Takumar 50/1.4, 8 element: I REALLY don't need this. My best 50mms are a
Summicron, the A50/1.4, maybe the M50/1.7 or FA50/1.7 (yes, I have all
those plus a lot more 50s!)

K50/1.2: Again, I don't need another 50. But it sure would be nice to play
with that extra third of a stop.

How about you? Any lenses you've always wanted but haven't gotten around to
getting? Any opinions on that list above?

j

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Re: Pentax lenses I want

[Pat Temmerman]

Have the DA21... would love if it were fully WP (I live in Scotland. 
Rain is real.)


On 01/11/2019 23:39, John Francis wrote:

On Fri, Nov 01, 2019 at 04:58:45PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote:

Paul Stenquist wrote:


I would think a full frame 24-70/4 is very unlikely in that Pentax already 
offers an excellent 24-70/2.8.

Yeah, it's excellent. But it's also huge compared to the 28-105.

... and with a price tag to match!

I could never quite persuade myself I needed the older FA* 28-70/2.8
to go along with the FA* 80-200/2.8 that was my main lens. But that's
because I was mostly doing motorsports photography - very different
from the sort of thing that Juan does - so the 28-105/f4.0-5.6 I had
met my needs for the occasional pit or paddock shots.

I'm waiting to see whether the announced flagship APS-C camera body
makes it all the way into production; if it does, (and assuming that
it has the sort of feature upgrades that could tempt me) there's a
fairly good chance I'll buy one last Pentax body. But despite what
my PDML T-shirt says I'm not sure I'll be buying any more lenses;
the main potential candidate - the D FA 150-450 - would add quite
a bit to whatever the new body (plus grip) would cost.




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Re: PANESO: Dover from above

[Pat Temmerman]

Love the ferry departing maybe would like to see a bit more beyond 
the right frame. Great image.



On 01/11/2019 22:19, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Just rediscovered this series of 8 shots made in 2014 and made Lightroom
turn them into a pano.

https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/dover-von-oben-fotoralfbe/43101199

Enjoy

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Re: PESO: Pepe

[Pat Temmerman]

Lovely happy dog. Nice to see you back - still follow Water Molotov on a 
fairly regular basis. (and I've been lurking longer than you)


Pat

On 26/10/2019 21:50, Juan Buhler wrote:

...and for "every so often" I mean "for the first time in what, 10 years or
so?"

Long time member, have been lurking for many years now.

I've been shooting with either Sony cameras or the Ricoh GR II. But in the
last year or so I've developed a fascination with older, ~12MP small sensor
cameras. I got both a Q7 and an MX-1. Those are both excellent cameras, for
different reasons, but both fun to shoot with. The MX-1 in particular is a
delight to take photos with--you should have seen me last month on Paris, I
was all like  and . I lacked only the accent and the hat from
the guy in that hilarious MX-1 Pentax ad.

Anyway, here is the PESO: Pepe, one of my dogs. Taken with the Q7 and the
standard zoom, plus a little FlashQ handheld and triggered by the camera
via the Flash remote. Cropped and edited to taste in LR.

I think it's a fun picture:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jbuhler/48964245326/

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Re: OT: The amazing discovery

[Pat Temmerman]

True treasure!


On 14/10/2019 15:32, Paul Stenquist wrote:


A very nice lady in Colorado, who happens to be an art restoration expert, 
located a canvas my father painted 90 years ago at the age of 23. I of course 
purchased it. Can't wait to see it on my living room wall. She is repairing the 
damaged area that can be seen at left, but it's a small defect and the fix will 
probably not be noticeable.

My siblings and I don’t have any examples of dad’s art created prior to 1937, 
so this is special. It provides an early glimpse into the mind and vision of 
the man whom I am proud to call father.

It seems dad was prolific in the 1930s, but sold almost many of his paintings 
during the Great Depression. This is the first that has resurfaced.

https://www.photo.net/photo/18563483/Nils-Stenquist-1929


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Re: More photos of new APS-C Flagship.

[Pat Temmerman]

Like it. Off/On/ stop-down, depth of field button. Don't need anything 
else. Like my K-70 a lot, but the Off/On/Video configuration is a 
pain.When out walking I tend to leave the camera On. If I forget, I pull 
the camera up to eye-level while moving the switch to the right , ie. 
video. Not tempted to replace the 70. makes life more interesting to 
just piss yourself off now and then.



On 12/10/2019 19:28, P. J. Alling wrote:

In case anyone missed this.

https://pentaxrumors.com/2019/09/21/more-pictures-of-the-upcoming-flagship-pentax-k-dslr-aps-c-camera/ 



I must say I like the looks of this camera.   The function dial on the 
right of the Pentaprism has only three positions which seems like a 
waste of a dial but still, at least it groups functions that are related.




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Re: OT: The joys of motoring.

[Pat Temmerman]

Great memory pic!

On 06/10/2019 16:15, Alan C wrote:

Scan of an old Brownie Box snap from 1955.

Boiling on a steep climb near Musina, SA on the way back home to 
Salisbury, Rhodesia in the good old days when petrol was cheap.


I'm on the right, 12 years old.

The Chev was finally pensioned off in 1959 with about 200 000m on the 
clock. It was replaced by a 1953 Chev Sedan.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/48853311812/

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Re: OT: British House of Cards (a bit political

[Pat Temmerman]

... or Rich-Snob..


On 10/09/2019 17:57, John wrote:

On 9/9/2019 09:01:33, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:



And then there is Jacob William Rees-Mogg, a truly fascinating 
character.

mHe seem the embodiment of an American's warped conception of an
upper-class Brit, something conceived by Monty Python or nurtured by
Jeeves.


I believe in the U.K. he's known as "Rees-Smaug".




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Re: OT: British House of Cards (a bit political

[Pat Temmerman]

maybe 'dollar store'?


On 09/09/2019 20:46, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

What does "Poundland" mean?

Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 2:57 PM Pat Temmerman  wrote:


 some in the UK refer to Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson as the
UK's own 'Poundland Trump'. I may, or may not, be one of them..

On 09/09/2019 14:01, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

The British TV Series House of Cards was in every respect superior to the
American imitation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Cards_(British_TV_series)

That being said, each series is rather tame compared to recent events in
Washington and London.  Is civilization about to disappear from both

sides

of the North Atlantic?

One is able to discern an ultimate resolution of the American circus,
albeit a very messy one.  It is hard to conceive of where the British

drama

will end.  The latest speculation is that the courts may wind up throwing
the PM into jil for refusing to obey the law recently passed by
Parliament.  Without a written constitution establishing separation of
powers, I don't see how this can be done, or how a stand-off between the

PM

and Parliament can be resolved.

And then there is Jacob William Rees-Mogg, a truly fascinating character.
mHe seem the embodiment of an American's warped conception of an
upper-class Brit, something conceived by Monty Python or nurtured by
Jeeves.

Perhaps we could trade BoJo for The Donaldto0 see if that would somehow
facilitate progress on one shore of the pond or the other.

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Re: OT: British House of Cards (a bit political

[Pat Temmerman]

 some in the UK refer to Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson as the 
UK's own 'Poundland Trump'. I may, or may not, be one of them..


On 09/09/2019 14:01, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

The British TV Series House of Cards was in every respect superior to the
American imitation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Cards_(British_TV_series)

That being said, each series is rather tame compared to recent events in
Washington and London.  Is civilization about to disappear from both sides
of the North Atlantic?

One is able to discern an ultimate resolution of the American circus,
albeit a very messy one.  It is hard to conceive of where the British drama
will end.  The latest speculation is that the courts may wind up throwing
the PM into jil for refusing to obey the law recently passed by
Parliament.  Without a written constitution establishing separation of
powers, I don't see how this can be done, or how a stand-off between the PM
and Parliament can be resolved.

And then there is Jacob William Rees-Mogg, a truly fascinating character.
mHe seem the embodiment of an American's warped conception of an
upper-class Brit, something conceived by Monty Python or nurtured by
Jeeves.

Perhaps we could trade BoJo for The Donaldto0 see if that would somehow
facilitate progress on one shore of the pond or the other.

Dan Matyola
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Re: Rant / HOTMAIL problems

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Keith,
Thanks for the offer - I haven't saved any of the messages, but if things go 
"as usual" it should happen again in a day or two.

Cheers,
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Re: Rant / HOTMAIL problems

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You can't unsubscribe and I can't stay subscribed - majordomo sends me a 
message every few days bumping me off the list.

Must be a PDML/Hotmail thing...

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We're meeting at Photokina

[Pat Temmerman -[MZ3_fella]]

Raim0, Dario and I will be getting together at Photokina. We're meeting at 
the Pentax stand at 11:00 on Saturday 28 September. Anyone else planning on 
being there? The more the merrier!

Cheers,
Pat Temmerman (MZ3_fella)



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