Re: Film and Development

[Robert & Leigh Woerner]

My lab is using Fuji Frontier exclusively because they aren't willing to
expend resources maintaining their optical equipment. The Frontier is new
and they get better contract support right now. I would guess that using the
Frontier makes their life easier also??? For the most part I like the prints
I get--good skin tones, etc. Occasionally I get prints in which overexposed
background objects are "enhanced' digitally so as to look "fake" or pasted
in.  Hope this makes sense to a professional film processor/developer like
yourself.

Robert
- Original Message -
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: Film and Development


>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jens Bladt"
> Subject: Film and Development
>
>
> > I need to make a withdrawal from the PDML wisdom bank, please.
> > I am getting the impression, that is is getting harder to get
> decent film
> > development these days. Is this true? I know my digital images are
> very
> > sharp due to the smaller format/better DOF. But I also know that
> film images
> > can be extreemly sharp as well. But I'm getting bad films back from
> my small
> > dealers lab these days.
> > Is this a common tendency?
>
> Labs are going digital.
> This means your films are being scanned as part of the process.
> Personally, I think scanned film prints look like crap compared to
> optical prints.
> Unfortunately, consumers are adopting digital cameras in droves, and
> are pushing labs into digital.
> The marketplace is never wrong.
> Digital must be better.
>
> >
> > Which films are the sharpest (200-1600 ASA) today (135 and 120) ?
> > Do we have to send our films to pro labs to get decent result?
>
> You should probably find a lab (pro or amatuer doesn't matter) that
> is still printing optically and try to keep it in business.
>
> William Robb
>
>

Re: Giving up on the FA 28-70/4

[Robert & Leigh Woerner]

Be patient and look for an SMC F 28-80 f 3.5/4.5 zoom. Built like a tank and
good optically. Only negative is rotating front element.

Robert
- Original Message -
From: "alex wetmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 9:48 PM
Subject: Giving up on the FA 28-70/4


> Some folks might remember that I discovered two elements of my FA 28-70/4
> were coming apart, making it unusable.
>
> I picked up a replacement on eBay and found that it is in the early
> stages of the same problem.  It is being mailed back to the seller.
>
> Sadly there don't seem to be any great replacements to consider.  The
> Tamron 28-75/2.8 Di XR seems to be highly regarded and is very small
> for a lens of that length, but is more than twice the weight (510g
> vs 240g) and a lot more expensive.
>
> The 24-90/3.5-4.5 seems like a reasonable compromise, but they are
> still pretty expensive.
>
> Any other suggestions?  This will be for a *ist D.  It won't get tons
> of use but I find this focal length to be fairly useful for certain
> types of events.
>
> Is the FA 28-105/3.2-4.5 any good?
>
> The only other moderately fast lens in this range seems to be the
> Sigma 28-70/2.8-4.  At $119 (bhphoto) I can't really imagine that it
> is very good.  Comments?  From photographyreview.com it sounds like
> there is a lot of distortion at the wide end.
>
> alex
>

Re: Question on Pentax SMC-F 28-80mm

[Robert & Leigh Woerner]

"cheaper" is probably the key word

- Original Message - 
From: "Joe Wilensky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 9:55 AM
Subject: Question on Pentax SMC-F 28-80mm


> Does anyone know why the SMC-F 28-80 f/3.5-4.5 zoom, which seems to  
> have a really good reputation (at least compared to the 28-80 powerzoom  
> that replaced it and compared to other A- and F-series Pentax 28-80 &  
> 35-80 zooms) is so hard to find? Most SF1/SF1n and SFX/SFXn cameras on  
> eBay seem to be listed with the cheaper, non SMC Pentax-F or Takumar-F  
> versions of this lens. See:  
>  -4.5.html> and  
>  -4.5.html>.
> 
> I would have thought that as the top-of-the-line Pentax cameras at the  
> time, the 28-80 zoom that would most often be found with these cameras  
> would be the SMC version  
> .
> 
> I finally found one on eBay -- see  
>  ViewItem&item=3817448223&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT> after I bought one  
> from KEH that was erroneously listed as the SMC version. The one that  
> showed up from KEH was one of the many Pentax-F ones they have listed.
> 
> Does anyone have this lens or remember why the cheaper versions were so  
> prevalent at the time?
> 
> Joe
> 

Re: Trolls

[Robert & Leigh Woerner]

No, horse meat.


- Original Message -
From: "Shawn K." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 1:43 PM
Subject: RE: Trolls


> I'm not a big beef fan really.  I hear McDonalds burgers are like 30% beef
> and the rest is soy.  Anyone know if thats true??
>
> -Shawn
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:40 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Trolls
>
>
> In a message dated 5/18/2004 11:35:15 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Can't we talk about McDonalds and where they get their beef from? Please?
>
>
> Tom C.
> --
> You really want to get into an argument about whether people should eat
beef
> at all? Because cattle are laying waste to large areas of land with their
> grazing? Land that could be used more productively for growing vegetables?
>
> Okay. ;-)
>
> Marnie aka Doe  Who is not a vegetarian but knows some of their arguments.
>

Re: another mishap

[Robert & Leigh Woerner]

I have the Tamron 70-300 LD Macro (62mm filter size). It has great bokeh. It
goes 1:2 macro from 180mm to 300mm. Sells for less than $200.00 new at B&H
and Adorama if they still stock. You may find it used at KEH.
It is a light lens which does not suffer from bad zoom creep.

Robert
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 8:08 PM
Subject: another mishap


> While emptying the truck from camping last Sunday my 70-300 Sigma fell out
> of an unzipped bag and crashed into the concrete driveway.  It hit pretty
> hard.
>
> The dear wife said "Hey, it didn't land on the glass part, it's ok.  I'm
so
> sorry..."
>
> I didn't have the heart to look at it until just now.  Landed heavy on the
> corner of the rear lens cap, marks on the side and the attached lens hood.
> Zoom and focus are very sluggish.  Tried it on the D*ist.  camera has a
very
> hard time focusing the lens.  Enough so that I'd fear doing damage to the
> camera body using this lens.
>
> I suppose I'm looking for another lens in this range.
> I like this lens.  It's the Sigma 70-300 APO Macro Super.
> But I guess I'm looking for something similar and as good or better.
> Suggestions?  Offerings?
>
> Cory
> Friday not looking as good anymore
>
>
>
> ---
> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> Version: 6.0.683 / Virus Database: 445 - Release Date: 5/13/2004
>

Re: PAW - Shana Punim in San Francisco

[Robert & Leigh Woerner]

Precious.

Re: PAW #9: Apple Picking

[Robert & Leigh Woerner]

Frank,

What a wonderful picture. I know you will treasure the memories it evokes
forever. That Agfa film rocks doesn't it?

Robert

MZ-S Box

[Robert & Leigh Woerner]

Anybody got a box and packaging, etc. for an MZ-S that they want to part
with???

Thanks,

Robert

BG 10 Grip and FPS on MZ-S

[Robert & Leigh Woerner]

I've read somewhere(can't find it) that the fps rate improves to about 4 on
an MZ-S equipped with BG10 grip and lithium batteries.  Can anybody confirm
this with own experience

TIA,

Robert (Woerner Bros.)

FS Friday

[Robert & Leigh Woerner]

Hi all,

I have some screwmount stuff to sell.

Super-Multi-Coated Macro Takumar f 4.0 100mm (1:2)--Like New--$200.00

Vivitar 55mm macro (1:1 WITHOUT TUBES)--Beautiful Optic--Very Good--$80.00

Takumar f 4.0 300mm (82mm Filter)--Excellent--$200.00

Shipping is additional.

Prefer to deal with shipping only within US and to Canada. Not sure about
navigating shipping elsewhere. Will consider it though.

Have a good day,

Robert

Sorry, no pics available. I don't do digital. Satisfaction guaranteed or
return for refund less shipping.

FS Friday

[Robert & Leigh Woerner]

From: "Robert & Leigh Woerner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 1:14 PM
Subject: FS Friday


> Hi all,
>
> I have some screwmount stuff to sell.
>
> Super-Multi-Coated Macro Takumar f 4.0 100mm (1:2)--Like New--$200.00
>
> Vivitar 55mm macro (1:1 WITHOUT TUBES)--Beautiful Optic--Very Good--$80.00
>
> Takumar f 4.0 300mm (82mm Filter)--Excellent--$200.00
>
> Shipping is additional.
>
> Prefer to deal with shipping only within US and to Canada. Not sure about
> navigating shipping elsewhere. Will consider it though.
>
> Have a good day,
>
> Robert
>
> Sorry, no pics available. I don't do digital. Satisfaction guaranteed or
> return for refund less shipping.
>

Re: Advice on lens I purchased

[Robert & Leigh Woerner]

I expect Adorama to treat you well. A friend of mine got a used Pentax 50mm
F macro from them when she was supposed to get an FA. They made it right.
Sent her a beautiful used FA. I just got a demo MZ-S from them. No problems
so far. They are a class act. I would expect few problems from them.

Robert

P.S. Hope you get things straightened out. :-)
- Original Message -
From: "Francis Alviar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pentax Discuss List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 8:39 PM
Subject: Advice on lens I purchased


> I've had my sights set on buying the 77mm Limited for
> quite some time now.  After receiving my tax refund I
> went out looking for one (through the internet) and
> found one at Adorama.  It was used in EX+ condition so
> I bit and purchased it.  It arrived today and upon
> inspection it seemed that the lens has been dropped by
> the previous owner (I'm assuming).  The lens cap has a
> big dent on it and the built-in hood also has a small
> dent.  The thin black ring surrounding the glass is
> not level anymore due to the impact.  I inspected the
> glass and it seems fine.  However there is a big speck
> right smack in the middle.  It looks to me like dirt
> but how in the world did it get there?
>
> I attached the lens onto a PZ-1p and checked for
> autofocus functions.  It seems to focus fine but I'm a
> bit skeptical since it looks blurry to me.  The blurry
> view might be attributed to the diopter but I checked
> it out and it is still blurry.
>
> Now comes the big question.  Should I return it and
> get my money back?  If I keep the lens will the fact
> that it was dropped have any impact (no pun intended)
> on image quality (blurry view, focus control)?  How is
> Adorama on returns?  I'm afraid they might blame me
> for the lens condition.  I'm being paranoid since this
> has never happened to me before.
>
> Awaiting for your replies.  Thank you.
>
>
> Francis
>
> __
> Do you Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.
> http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html
>

Re: taking a break for a while...

[Robert & Leigh Woerner]

"Kids say the darndest things".

Art Linkletter

Re: taking a break for a while...

[Robert & Leigh Woerner]

We love ya.

Robert
- Original Message -
From: "Tanya Mayer Photography" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 7:04 PM
Subject: RE: taking a break for a while...


>
> naaah, Lasse, it's not worth the hassle, and I don't want to create any
more
> bad energy around here.  Plus, I'll be meeting the person at GFM and will
> sort it out with them then.  I am sure it is just a case of mistaken
> identity but I really didn't deserve being spoken to like that.
>
> Anyways, its cool, I needed a break anyways before a hoard of angry
clients
> looking for their photos comes and lynches me!
>
> tan.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Lasse Karlsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, 25 March 2004 9:51 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: taking a break for a while...
>
>
> From: "Tanya Mayer Photography" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Hi guys and gals,
> > Well, i have just received an off-list email that not only blamed me for
a
> > post that was posted by somebody else, but also chastised me for "doing"
> it.
> > I am sad to say that after the events of the past few days on list, and
> now
> > receiving this email, I am going to be taking a break from the list for
a
> > few days.
> >
> > I am really upset that the person in question would speak like that to
me,
> > and over something that I didn't even do.  After all of this time and
the
> > huge amounts of posts that I make, I thought that people would have much
> > more of an idea of "who" I am by now.  Obviously not, and this truly
> scares
> > me that I can be come down on so hard for such a simple thing.  I
honestly
> > think that at the moment, my time is better spent working for my clients
> > than wasting my breath/time posting messages that mustn't be "hitting
> their
> > target".
>
> Post it to the list.
>
> Lasse
>
>
>

Re: Handled *istD Today

[Robert & Leigh Woerner]

???


, WOERNER BROTHERS discumbobulated:

"From"  has my name and my wife's name. She's a woman. :-)

Handled *istD Today

[Robert & Leigh Woerner]

I got the chance to handle a *istD today. WOW.

All I can say is:

Cotty, when are you gonna get one? :-)

Regards,

Robert

Re: Signature lines

[Robert & Leigh Woerner]

I was just thinking today that there hasn't been a flame war in a while..

Re: New Pentax Film Body?

[Robert & Leigh Woerner]

Amen, brother.


- Original Message - 
From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: New Pentax Film Body?


> I just don't see that happening for me ... all I can say is
> thank goodness for the used market.  

Re: pz1p pricing

[Robert & Leigh Woerner]

It could also be that the PZ1p is one helluva camera.

Robert

Re: What gear is on your "lust list" ?

[Robert & Leigh Woerner]

For starters:

All of the limiteds
FA 80-200 2.8
FA 35
FA 135
K2
MZS
645 or 645n
lenses for 645
F 300 4.0(?)
FA 28-70 2.8
K 135 2.5
FA 85 1.4

Complications:

Have wife,have 2 year old girl,have 2nd baby on way in Sept.,I'm  in nursing
school full-time until May '05.  (Whew)maybe after graduation???



- Original Message -
From: "Mark Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pentax-Discuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 12:19 PM
Subject: What gear is on your "lust list" ?


> So the 28mm shift lens debate got me thinking about my "lust list," the
gear
> that I really really want (but probably won't buy).  Here it is in no
> particular order:
>
>   Item  Why
>   ---
>   Pentax SMC-A 15mm Indoor shots and big stuff
>
>   Pentax 28mm shift not really sure--but it's cool
>
>   Voigtlander Bessa-L   US$420 for camera and lens:
>   and 15mm F4.5 lensthe ultimate compact wde
> angle system for the money.
>
>   *ist DNeed I explain?
>
>   Wide Rolleiflex   Compact 55mm 6x6 system, plus
> it's a Rollei
>
>
> So what's on your list?
>
>

Re: Minolta Scanners

[Robert & Leigh Woerner]

Maybe I should also ask about the Minolta Scan Dual IV also?
- Original Message -
From: "Robert & Leigh Woerner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 9:48 AM
Subject: Minolta Scanners


> Hello friends,
>
> I have a friend shopping for a film scanner. He has narrrowed his search
to
> two offerings from Minolta:
>
> DiMage Scan Dual III
>
> DiMage Scan Elite 5400
>
> Any firsthand use/opinions from list members???
> I have read photographyreview.com.
> The 5400 gets a 4.8 with 5 ratings.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Robert
>
> P.S. To keep this on topic for Pentax
>
> Have Nikon F2A Photomic black body available for trade for Pentax MZ-S. It
> is mint never used condition in the box with all paperwork.
>
>

Minolta Scanners

[Robert & Leigh Woerner]

Hello friends,

I have a friend shopping for a film scanner. He has narrrowed his search to
two offerings from Minolta:

DiMage Scan Dual III

DiMage Scan Elite 5400

Any firsthand use/opinions from list members???
I have read photographyreview.com.
The 5400 gets a 4.8 with 5 ratings.

Thanks,

Robert

P.S. To keep this on topic for Pentax

Have Nikon F2A Photomic black body available for trade for Pentax MZ-S. It
is mint never used condition in the box with all paperwork.

Re: more *ist D pricing news...

[Robert & Leigh Woerner]

I was quoted 1333 USD for a new PZ1p a couple or three years ago and bought
one brand new from B&H for 479 USD. Huge difference in money mileage.

Regards,

Robert

Re: pentax glass

[Robert & Leigh Woerner]

(Shouting)

The Pentax SMC F 28-80 f3.5-4.5 is a good lens in my opinion. Probably the
best AF 28-80 out there though no longer manufactured.

I tend to agree with the rest of your statements.

Regards,

Robert


>  I'm quite willing to believe that Pentax lenses are better
> made and better optically (although why can't I find any amateur 28-80
> pentax lens that people will stand up and shout about?)

50mm Pentax Screwmount

[Robert & Leigh Woerner]

Check this out. Nice photo, nice model, nice lens.
A Pentax lens on a Minolta Maxxum 7. What a combo.


http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=1120700

Re: Nice Website

[Robert & Leigh Woerner]

Glad you like it. Nice gentleman and great photographer.

Robert
- Original Message - 
From: "Tanya Mayer Photography" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: Nice Website


> omg, that is one phenomenal photographer, check this it for a fantastic
> shot... it is totally unique...
> 
> http://www.brphoto.net/pageimages/Normal/New/yellowtulip.htm
> 
> thanks for posting that link Robert!
> 
> tan.
> 
> ----- Original Message - 
> From: "Robert & Leigh Woerner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 12:23 AM
> Subject: Nice Website
> 
> 
> > Hey gang,
> >
> > Check this website out. It rocks.
> >
> > www.brphoto.net
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Robert
> >
> >
> 

Nice Website

[Robert & Leigh Woerner]

Hey gang,

Check this website out. It rocks.

www.brphoto.net

Regards,

Robert

Re: It's official!

[Robert & Leigh Woerner]

Where are you located?

Robert in Greenville SC
- Original Message -
From: "Patrick Wunsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 8:36 PM
Subject: It's official!


> It's now official.  There are no local film processing labs in the area I
> live in.  The last one closed today.
>
> Do any of you have any recommendations on where to find a decent mail
order
> film processing?  I use Fuji color-slide and film primarily.  Thanks
>
> Pat
>
>

Re: 28-200(300) zoom lenses?

[Robert & Leigh Woerner]

The latest offering from Tamron 28-200 zoom with 62mm filter thread has
gotten good reviews. (designated "XR Super" ??)

Robert

www.photographyreview.com

Re: New Pentax cameras

[Robert & Leigh Woerner]

Welcome back.

Re: there's one born every minute

[Robert & Leigh Woerner]

It is still a scam and the guy should be shut down.  It is like someone
selling a camera box.

Regards,

Robert

Re: Pentax 28-105mm FA powerzoom

[Robert & Leigh Woerner]

The only problem I have had is vignetting at 28mm especially with a
polarizer or generic lens hood. Like you, I agree it is a superb optic.

With regard,
Robert Woerner

Re: Spotmatic? II or F?

[Robert & Leigh Woerner]

As a side item, if you wanted fast AF you should have tried out a PZ1p. You
would never have gone over to the other side. Boy, what a can o' worms I've
opened.

PENTAX ROCKS.

Robert
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: Spotmatic? II or F?


> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > Girlfren', you're going to buy an LX eventually. We all do. Might as
> > well just save all the intermediate heartache and get it now.
>
> Hehehehehe. Well, maybe. :-)
>
> Tom wrote:
>
> >Spot on, ERNR!  Marnie: you want the LX, of course, but if you do go
> for a Spotmatic, the F is the model to get.  It's the top of the line
> Spottie, and a really sweet camera.  Stick with SMC Takumar lenses,
> and you can use open aperture metering.  Use modern PX625A 1.5 volt
> cells instead of the original mercury ones: the metering circuitry is
> balanced, so the voltage difference won't matter.
>
> >-tih
>
> Thanks for the battery tip.
>
> Actually I think I am sticking with the Elan for my main camera. While I
like
> the Pentax interface better, I am pretty happy with an USM IS zoom that I
> have. And I like the Elan's fast auto focus. And, as for buying more
expensive
> glass and investing more and more into glass, I pretty much have to stay
with
> the same brand. So down the road, it's quite possible I'll be going with a
Canon
> DSLR. But maybe not, we shall see.
>
> However, screwmount lenses are sort of semi-compatible. I could switch
lenses
> between cameras, be "backward compatible" on the Canon ;-). And I've
wanted
> another all manual camera. So I think this is going to be my best
solution.
>
> Also getting just Takumar scremounts for the metering -- no problemo. The
> only exception will be the Zenitar.
>
> Thx. Marnie aka Doe   Still looking around, so if anyone on the list has a
> Spottie F to sell, please contact me off list. Hehehehehe.
>

Re: FA 50/2.8 Macro

[Robert & Leigh Woerner]

Considering the fact that I paid $300.00 US for mine I think $188 is a good
deal for a great lens.

Robert
- Original Message -
From: "Łukasz Kacperczyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "pdml" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 7:38 PM
Subject: FA 50/2.8 Macro


> Hi there,
>
> I have an opportunity to buy this lens in ex + condition for the
equivalent
> of $188. Is this a good price?
>
> And another question - I love 50/55mm lenses. Really liked my M 50/1.7,
was
> very fond of the FA 50/1.4, and now I'm a proud (and happy) owner of one K
> 55/1.8 and one K 50/1.4. But... Always willing to try something new, I
> thought I'd a macro 50mm a shot this time. Since I lost an A 50/2.8
auction
> on ebay last night, I thought maybe the FA 50/2.8 would be a good choice,
> since I have one available locally.
>
> How bulky is this lens compared to e.g. a K 50/1.4? Subjectively
speaking -
> I know their dimentions. How is the manual focus? I love the feel of
manual
> lenses, but can live with what my FA 35/2 can offer. I'll use this lens
> (i.e. the FA 50/2.8) on a MX. I'm not that much of a "macro-shooter", but
> would like the ability to close focus to 0,19m. Anything else I should
know?
>
> TIA.
>
> Regards,
> Łukasz
>
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ===
>  www.fotopolis.pl
> ===
>  internetowy magazyn o fotografii
>
>