Re: *ist and K/M lenses
Exactly. Sooner or later technology passes us by. I for one will use my K and M lenes on my LX, PZ1, and MZS. If and when I get an ist D I will use my A series lenses on it and know that, if necessary I can use the Ks and Ms on the istD. If necessary I will take a meter reading with an A or newer lens and then pop on the K or M lens to shoot. Not a big deal.. Vic Well, I sometimes wonder, do all you guys refuse to buy a new car because they no longer come with a hand crank to start them? In case no one has noticed, you can take pictures with every lens Pentax ever made on the istD. No one else can say that. So what if you lose some automation. Use your screw mounts on your spotmatic. Use your K/M mounts on your MX, and all the rest on the istD. And if for some reason you have to use an older lens on it, it can be done with a little use of the brain. Ooppps... Sorry I forgot, that is no longer allowed in todays world GRIN.
Re: *ist and K/M lenses
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If and when I get an ist D I will use my A series lenses on it and know that, if necessary I can use the Ks and Ms on the istD. If necessary I will take a meter reading with an A or newer lens and then pop on the K or M lens to shoot. You don't even need to change lenses like that. Just meter with the K or M lens wide open (in manual mode), stop down to shooting aperture, adjust the shutter speed the appropriate amount and shoot. Slower than one would prefer, but then I'd be using an AF lens when speed was important anyway. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: *ist and K/M lenses
The software fix would be cheaper. At 02:42 AM 9/19/03 -0700, you wrote: just like the *ist D with K/M lenses: Av mode: wide open only, correctly metered; Manual mode: no metering but lens stops down to selected value. You mean Teasing exposure mode 1 Teasing exposure mode 2. :-) The trick to unlock the lens in AV mode to have it stop down worked, too. Pentax should make the camera mount with 2 locking positions so that the lens would not be turned too much and jump off by accident. I am sure it is a great idea for all future Pentax cameras. :-) Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 I drink to make other people interesting. -- George Jean Nathan
Re: *ist and K/M lenses
I don't have a collection of hand cranks that cost more than the car. At 01:15 PM 9/19/03 -0400, you wrote: Well, I sometimes wonder, do all you guys refuse to buy a new car because they no longer come with a hand crank to start them? In case no one has noticed, you can take pictures with every lens Pentax ever made on the istD. No one else can say that. So what if you lose some automation. Use your screw mounts on your spotmatic. Use your K/M mounts on your MX, and all the rest on the istD. And if for some reason you have to use an older lens on it, it can be done with a little use of the brain. Ooppps... Sorry I forgot, that is no longer allowed in todays world GRIN. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com I drink to make other people interesting. -- George Jean Nathan
*ist and K/M lenses
The *ist I played with last weekend along with the *ist D behaved just like the *ist D with K/M lenses: Av mode: wide open only, correctly metered; Manual mode: no metering but lens stops down to selected value. The trick to unlock the lens in AV mode to have it stop down worked, too. Arnold
Re: *ist and K/M lenses
just like the *ist D with K/M lenses: Av mode: wide open only, correctly metered; Manual mode: no metering but lens stops down to selected value. You mean Teasing exposure mode 1 Teasing exposure mode 2. :-) The trick to unlock the lens in AV mode to have it stop down worked, too. Pentax should make the camera mount with 2 locking positions so that the lens would not be turned too much and jump off by accident. I am sure it is a great idea for all future Pentax cameras. :-) Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: *ist and K/M lenses
The real trick is for Pentax, or some other camera maker, to make a digital slr that works with all of the K, M, A lenses and not have to fool with all these techniques to get the older lenses to work correctly. For $1600 bucks the *istD should have been able to do this. Jim A. From: Arnold Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 11:39:42 +0200 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *ist and K/M lenses Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 05:34:55 -0400 The *ist I played with last weekend along with the *ist D behaved just like the *ist D with K/M lenses: Av mode: wide open only, correctly metered; Manual mode: no metering but lens stops down to selected value. The trick to unlock the lens in AV mode to have it stop down worked, too. Arnold
Re: *ist and K/M lenses
Well, I sometimes wonder, do all you guys refuse to buy a new car because they no longer come with a hand crank to start them? Hand crank,we would have killed for a hand crank.Dad used to hold the fan while we turned the car.Neighh.vbg Dave -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com
Re: *ist and K/M lenses
The real trick is for Pentax, or some other camera maker, to make a digital slr that works with all of the K, M, A lenses and not have to fool with all these techniques to get the older lenses to work correctly. For $1600 bucks the *istD should have been able to do this. Jim A. sarcasmCome on, it would have pushed the price out into the digital wilderness, $1650 maybe, no one would ever fall for that./sarcasm Har! Fred
RE: *ist and K/M lenses
does the *istD or any other pentax body have an autobracket T manual mode. I'm thinking set the fstop and shutterspeed manually, and then get three exposures with fixed fstop ,speed setting, speed +X stops, Speed-X stops. I would like that one. JCO J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 5:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist and K/M lenses On 19 Sep 2003 at 12:35, Robert Gonzalez wrote: I agree with you 100%. I think that a little metering with the old lenses might actually help me take better pictures, as it allows me to take a little more time taking in the scene and really understand the composition and how I want to expose it. This is the basis for my whole gripe. I don't want to have to change my basic operational technique as I change bodies, I'm happy with the way I work and I don't want to change. I want to be making images with the least concern about operation and I'm not stating here that I rely on automation. Consistency is the key. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: *ist and K/M lenses
On 19 Sep 2003 at 17:18, Robert Gonzalez wrote: So make it consistent. Take a meter reading *every* time. It will probably make a good habit. :) But it's still changing the way I work. A need aperture control via the aperture ring with metering through the lens, quite a simple need wouldn't you think? Granted I use a meter exclusively when shooting MF but hey we were talking toy format. :-) Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: *ist and K/M lenses
does the *istD or any other pentax body have an autobracket T manual mode. I'm thinking set the fstop and shutterspeed manually, and then get three exposures with fixed fstop ,speed setting, speed +X stops, Speed-X stops. The SFXn/SF1n will autobracket, but not (I believe) in manual mode. Fred
RE: *ist and K/M lenses
thats the only pentax 35mm slrs with autobracket? JCO J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com -Original Message- From: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 10:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist and K/M lenses does the *istD or any other pentax body have an autobracket T manual mode. I'm thinking set the fstop and shutterspeed manually, and then get three exposures with fixed fstop ,speed setting, speed +X stops, Speed-X stops. The SFXn/SF1n will autobracket, but not (I believe) in manual mode. Fred
Re: *ist and K/M lenses
does the *istD or any other pentax body have an autobracket T manual mode. I'm thinking set the fstop and shutterspeed manually, and then get three exposures with fixed fstop ,speed setting, speed +X stops, Speed-X stops. The SFXn/SF1n will autobracket, but not (I believe) in manual mode. thats the only pentax 35mm slrs with autobracket? I don't know. That's the only body I've used that had any autobracketing (but I am almost totally unfamiliar with all the newer autofocus bodies). Fred
Re: *ist and K/M lenses
I don't know what to tell you. I have alot of Pentax glass that is not going to *automatically* work with the *istD, but I'm still happy to have a digital slr offering from Pentax. My other lenses will still work fine, and I'll just have to meter with my old glass, or keep them for my older bodies, including my favorite, the PZ-1. My first Pentax was an ME-super back in college and that was pretty primitive compared to today's cameras, but still way ahead of its predecessors. No AF, no automatic aperture setting, no TTL flash, no super duper metering, no mirror lockup, no DOF preview, no automatic ISO setting. So having to meter with any old glass on the *istD is not going to be the best scenario, but I'll live with it, compared to not having a digital slr at all. I just hope that someday digital will look as good as my chrome slides do today. :) Rob Studdert wrote: On 19 Sep 2003 at 17:18, Robert Gonzalez wrote: So make it consistent. Take a meter reading *every* time. It will probably make a good habit. :) But it's still changing the way I work. A need aperture control via the aperture ring with metering through the lens, quite a simple need wouldn't you think? Granted I use a meter exclusively when shooting MF but hey we were talking toy format. :-) Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
