Re: *istD/DS Size relative to a MX?

2005-01-14 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:12:57 +, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I'm sorry buddy, but that pancake lens on that *ist D looks awful.
 

Yes, but the 43 Limited looks amazing on a silver MX (saw Mark's on my
MX when he visited Toronto some time back).  And, I bet an M 2.8 40
Pancake would look nice on a *istD...

cheers,
frank


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Re: *istD/DS Size relative to a MX?

2005-01-14 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005, frank theriault wrote:

 On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:12:57 +, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  I'm sorry buddy, but that pancake lens on that *ist D looks awful.
 

 Yes, but the 43 Limited looks amazing on a silver MX (saw Mark's on my
 MX when he visited Toronto some time back).  And, I bet an M 2.8 40
 Pancake would look nice on a *istD...

I bet the pictures with the 43 look much better than those taken with
the 40 (except if the 43 does not like the digital sensor).

And that's what counts in my book.

Kostas (still, I would look for a black one myself, given the money it
costs)



Re: *istD/DS Size relative to a MX?

2005-01-14 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:45:00 + (GMT), Kostas Kavoussanakis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I bet the pictures with the 43 look much better than those taken with
 the 40 (except if the 43 does not like the digital sensor).
 
 And that's what counts in my book.
 
 Kostas (still, I would look for a black one myself, given the money it
 costs)
 

Agreed.  Cotty brought up the issue of how it looked on the camera. 
Blame it on him.

vbg

cheers,
frank


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Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: *istD/DS Size relative to a MX?

2005-01-14 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005, frank theriault wrote:

 Blame it on him.

Absolutely. I do that all the time anyway.

Kostas



Re: *istD/DS Size relative to a MX?

2005-01-14 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:34:22 + (GMT), Kostas Kavoussanakis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Absolutely. I do that all the time anyway.
 

And, that's as it should be...

LOL

cheers,
frank


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: *istD/DS Size relative to a MX?

2005-01-14 Thread Peter J. Alling
Actually it looks a bit silly.
frank theriault wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:12:57 +, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

I'm sorry buddy, but that pancake lens on that *ist D looks awful.
   

Yes, but the 43 Limited looks amazing on a silver MX (saw Mark's on my
MX when he visited Toronto some time back).  And, I bet an M 2.8 40
Pancake would look nice on a *istD...
cheers,
frank
 


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I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: *istD/DS Size relative to a MX?

2005-01-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/1/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

Agreed.  Cotty brought up the issue of how it looked on the camera. 
Blame it on him.

Hey, aesthetics are pertinent to me. A bit like cars, I feel better when
I'm driving something I love. Surely you must get a buzz out of being on
a bike you adore?




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: *istD/DS Size relative to a MX?

2005-01-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/1/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:12:57 +, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I'm sorry buddy, but that pancake lens on that *ist D looks awful.
 

Yes, but the 43 Limited looks amazing on a silver MX (saw Mark's on my
MX when he visited Toronto some time back).  And, I bet an M 2.8 40
Pancake would look nice on a *istD...

My apologies Frank - I should have said:

'that 43mm Ltd (in silver) on that *ist D looks awful!

;-)




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: *istD/DS Size relative to a MX?

2005-01-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/1/05, Peter J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

Actually it looks a bit silly.

thud




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Re: *istD/DS Size relative to a MX?

2005-01-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Kostas Kavoussanakis
Subject: Re: *istD/DS Size relative to a MX?


I bet the pictures with the 43 look much better than those taken with
the 40 (except if the 43 does not like the digital sensor).
I feel so sorry for that lens.
Its like it is the Rodney Dangerfield of lenses..
In fact, I'll dig mine out, put it onto the istD and we will see how it 
does.

I have no 43 to compare it to, though.
William Robb



*istD/DS Size relative to a MX?

2005-01-13 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I just got another MX (BLACK!) this week after not having
one for a few years and I forgot how damn small this MX
camera is. I am wondering how does the *istD/DS bodies compare
in size to the MX full frame 35mm film camera?
jco





Re: *istD/DS Size relative to a MX?

2005-01-13 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Where did you get yours?

Sincerely,

C. Brendemuehl

Caveat:  This information should be viewed critically.  It may merit as much 
technical excellence as a CBS news report.


-- Original Message --
From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Date:  Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:34:32 -0500

I just got another MX (BLACK!) this week after not having
one for a few years and I forgot how damn small this MX
camera is. I am wondering how does the *istD/DS bodies compare
in size to the MX full frame 35mm film camera?
jco




 





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Re: *istD/DS Size relative to a MX?

2005-01-13 Thread Peter J. Alling
The DS is a little narrower a little thicker and a little taller than an 
MX without the winder, the reverse is
more or less true, (if you consider the grip), for thickness and height 
if the MX has a winder mounted. 

J. C. O'Connell wrote:
I just got another MX (BLACK!) this week after not having
one for a few years and I forgot how damn small this MX
camera is. I am wondering how does the *istD/DS bodies compare
in size to the MX full frame 35mm film camera?
jco

 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: *istD/DS Size relative to a MX?

2005-01-13 Thread Cotty
On 13/1/05, Peter J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

The DS is a little narrower a little thicker and a little taller than an 
MX without the winder, the reverse is
more or less true, (if you consider the grip), for thickness and height 
if the MX has a winder mounted. 

Anyone with both cameras? It would be great to see a few side-by-side
pics please.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: *istD/DS Size relative to a MX?

2005-01-13 Thread Peter J. Alling
Just because Cotty asked...
Quick and dirty
http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/mx-m50_ist-D-fa43.html
Cotty wrote:
On 13/1/05, Peter J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:
 

The DS is a little narrower a little thicker and a little taller than an 
MX without the winder, the reverse is
more or less true, (if you consider the grip), for thickness and height 
if the MX has a winder mounted. 
   

Anyone with both cameras? It would be great to see a few side-by-side
pics please.

Cheers,
 Cotty
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--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: *istD/DS Size relative to a MX?

2005-01-13 Thread Cotty
On 13/1/05, Peter J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

Just because Cotty asked...

Quick and dirty

http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/mx-m50_ist-D-fa43.html

Thanks Pete - I would be even more interested in seeing the *ist Ds next
to the MX.

I'm sorry buddy, but that pancake lens on that *ist D looks awful.

;-)




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: *istD/DS Size relative to a MX?

2005-01-13 Thread Peter J. Alling
The difference in size between the *ist-D and the *ist-Ds is minimal.  
I've compared them and it
can be measured in a few millimeters.  The difference in size is 
primarily bragging rights. 

I don't know, I could have put the M 40mm f2.8 on one of them but the 50 
1.7 us closer in size to the
43ltd.  I kind of liked the negative version the MX was of the *ist-D 
or vice versa.  (It's not so important how
it looks but how good the pictures are however).

Cotty wrote:
On 13/1/05, Peter J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:
 

Just because Cotty asked...
Quick and dirty
http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/mx-m50_ist-D-fa43.html
   

Thanks Pete - I would be even more interested in seeing the *ist Ds next
to the MX.
I'm sorry buddy, but that pancake lens on that *ist D looks awful.
;-)

Cheers,
 Cotty
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I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: *istD/DS Size relative to a MX?

2005-01-13 Thread Keith Whaley
Hah! You know, I decided to look at my MX's, and my MG's ~ and the MG is 
smaller than the MX! Less wide...
My best MG is currently sporting my recently acquired Vivitar Series 1 
135mm f/2.3.
Golly NED! That is one big lens!  g

keith
Peter J. Alling wrote:
Just because Cotty asked...
Quick and dirty
http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/mx-m50_ist-D-fa43.html

Cotty wrote:
On 13/1/05, Peter J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:
The DS is a little narrower a little thicker and a little taller than 
an MX without the winder, the reverse is
more or less true, (if you consider the grip), for thickness and 
height if the MX has a winder mounted.   

Anyone with both cameras? It would be great to see a few side-by-side
pics please.
Cheers,
 Cotty