[About NX->K-mount adapter] Wanna have some fun? A funny photographic comment :p
http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Samsung_K_mount_adapter_on_show_news_295199.html Last paragraph. ROTFL. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13" Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: [About NX->K-mount adapter] Wanna have some fun? A funny photographic comment :p
2010/2/23 Thibouille : > http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Samsung_K_mount_adapter_on_show_news_295199.html > > Last paragraph. ROTFL. > -- > Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs > -- > Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, > DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... > Laptop: Macbook 13" Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 > Programing: Delphi 2009 > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > yeah right... so funny it hurts :[ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: [About NX->K-mount adapter] Wanna have some fun? A funny photographic comment :p
Thibouille wrote: > http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Samsung_K_mount_adapter_on_show_news_295199.html > > Last paragraph. ROTFL. Did Samsung just (re)invent the aperture ring? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2010/2/23 mike wilson : > > Did Samsung just (re)invent the aperture ring? no, the adaptor has a mechanical internal aperture simulator and the aperture blades come in two versions, cormorant beak and cormorant wing (extended) shape, for a sharper or a breezier bokeh respectively... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: [About NX->K-mount adapter] Wanna have some fun? A funny photographic comment :p
What a waste of time to produce something which won't even work very well. One wonders why Samsung didn't make the NX compatible with the K-mount in the first place. John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Thibouille Sent: Tuesday, 23 February 2010 9:24 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: [About NX->K-mount adapter] Wanna have some fun? A funny photographic comment :p http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Samsung_K_mount_adapter_on_show_ne ws_295199.html Last paragraph. ROTFL. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13" Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: [About NX->K-mount adapter] Wanna have some fun? A funny photographic comment :p
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 2:40 AM, John Coyle wrote: > What a waste of time to produce something which won't even work very well. > One wonders why Samsung didn't make the NX compatible with the K-mount in > the first place. > > > John in Brisbane > Because that would result in a camera with essentially no advantages over a DSLR. The short register that is possibly from removing the mirror is the major advantage of NX mount (and Micro 4/3rds mount) as it allows a much smaller overall package and simpler and smaller wide-angle lenses due to the reduced need for retrofocus lens designs. Limited compatibility for mechanically-coupled SLR mounts is the price you pay, a fully-electronic mount can be fully compatible (as 4/3rds and Micro-4/3rds prove). Overall I consider the NX10 to be a mediocre implementation of the concept due to a poor integrated EVF, a pseudo-DSLR design without the advantages (high-end integrated finder, flip-twist LCD) that other similar designs have and what appears to be a mediocre processing chain (IQ from the NX10 appears to be inferior to the K-7 and K20D which share the same basic sensor).. The fact that you also cannot adapt M mount lenses, unlike Micro-4/3rds mount is just icing. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: [About NX->K-mount adapter] Wanna have some fun? A funny photographic comment :p
So Samsung couldn't be bothered to make their new lens mount
electrically compatible with their legacy lenses...
I must admit the fact that a photography magazine could be so clueless
about photography is a sad commentary.
On 2/23/2010 6:23 AM, Thibouille wrote:
http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Samsung_K_mount_adapter_on_show_news_295199.html
Last paragraph. ROTFL.
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Re: [About NX->K-mount adapter] Wanna have some fun? A funny photographic comment :p
On 2/23/2010 8:23 AM, mike wilson wrote:
Thibouille wrote:
http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Samsung_K_mount_adapter_on_show_news_295199.html
Last paragraph. ROTFL.
Did Samsung just (re)invent the aperture ring?
They just reinvented the manual diaphram.
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Re: [About NX->K-mount adapter] Wanna have some fun? A funny photographic comment :p
Electrically compatible is simple. But K mount isn't functionally electrically coupled. It's a mechanical mount with a few electrical fatures added on to make meter coupling easier. You need a mechanical system to get any aperture actuation. On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:33 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > So Samsung couldn't be bothered to make their new lens mount electrically > compatible with their legacy lenses... > > I must admit the fact that a photography magazine could be so clueless about > photography is a sad commentary. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: [About NX->K-mount adapter] Wanna have some fun? A funny photographic comment :p
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:37 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > On 2/23/2010 8:23 AM, mike wilson wrote: >> >> Thibouille wrote: >> Did Samsung just (re)invent the aperture ring? >> > > They just reinvented the manual diaphram. Not even, they cloned the system that Novoflex designed well over a year ago for Nikon G, Sony/Minolta A and Pentax DA/FAJ mount lenses to Micro-4/3rds. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: [About NX->K-mount adapter] Wanna have some fun? A funny photographic comment :p
Let's see, your building a lens adapter, you have electronic lenses.
For $100.00 I'd think you could include a micro motor and a chip to tell
it how far to move, /if/ it could read the lens and communicate with the
camera. I guess they couldn't be bothered, electronics are so expensive
these days.
On 2/24/2010 11:07 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
Electrically compatible is simple. But K mount isn't functionally
electrically coupled. It's a mechanical mount with a few electrical
fatures added on to make meter coupling easier. You need a mechanical
system to get any aperture actuation.
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:33 PM, P. J. Alling
wrote:
So Samsung couldn't be bothered to make their new lens mount electrically
compatible with their legacy lenses...
I must admit the fact that a photography magazine could be so clueless about
photography is a sad commentary.
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Re: [About NX->K-mount adapter] Wanna have some fun? A funny photographic comment :p
IMO there's another reason: Samsung can't be bothered to give Pentax a
cent as for licensing the K-mount.
Secondly I do not see Pentax happy with the idea of Samsung running
away with Pentax customers so Pentax probably asked nicely Samsung not
to do it (if Samsung really even dared thinking about such adapters).
Third, Samsung do not want you to keep your lenses but to buy new ones.
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:00 AM, P. J. Alling
wrote:
> Let's see, your building a lens adapter, you have electronic lenses. For
> $100.00 I'd think you could include a micro motor and a chip to tell it how
> far to move, /if/ it could read the lens and communicate with the camera. I
> guess they couldn't be bothered, electronics are so expensive these days.
>
> On 2/24/2010 11:07 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
>>
>> Electrically compatible is simple. But K mount isn't functionally
>> electrically coupled. It's a mechanical mount with a few electrical
>> fatures added on to make meter coupling easier. You need a mechanical
>> system to get any aperture actuation.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:33 PM, P. J. Alling
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> So Samsung couldn't be bothered to make their new lens mount electrically
>>> compatible with their legacy lenses...
>>>
>>> I must admit the fact that a photography magazine could be so clueless
>>> about
>>> photography is a sad commentary.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [About NX->K-mount adapter] Wanna have some fun? A funny photographic comment :p
They've already licensed it, and a G10 knockoff isn't going to gain
Samsung a lot of market share that they didn't have already.
On 2/25/2010 3:38 AM, Thibouille wrote:
IMO there's another reason: Samsung can't be bothered to give Pentax a
cent as for licensing the K-mount.
Secondly I do not see Pentax happy with the idea of Samsung running
away with Pentax customers so Pentax probably asked nicely Samsung not
to do it (if Samsung really even dared thinking about such adapters).
Third, Samsung do not want you to keep your lenses but to buy new ones.
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:00 AM, P. J. Alling
wrote:
Let's see, your building a lens adapter, you have electronic lenses. For
$100.00 I'd think you could include a micro motor and a chip to tell it how
far to move, /if/ it could read the lens and communicate with the camera. I
guess they couldn't be bothered, electronics are so expensive these days.
On 2/24/2010 11:07 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
Electrically compatible is simple. But K mount isn't functionally
electrically coupled. It's a mechanical mount with a few electrical
fatures added on to make meter coupling easier. You need a mechanical
system to get any aperture actuation.
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:33 PM, P. J. Alling
wrote:
So Samsung couldn't be bothered to make their new lens mount electrically
compatible with their legacy lenses...
I must admit the fact that a photography magazine could be so clueless
about
photography is a sad commentary.
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Re: [About NX->K-mount adapter] Wanna have some fun? A funny photographic comment :p
Thibouille escribió: http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Samsung_K_mount_adapter_on_show_news_295199.html Last paragraph. ROTFL. The article was written by Damien Demolder, the most clueless camera reviewer that I know of (even worse than Ken Rockwell), so that last paragraph isn't completely unexpected. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Simple fallacy here, you don't have electronic lenses. You have
mechanically-coupled lenses with electronic meter coupling that you're
adapting to a pure electronic mount.
The stop-down mechanism would be fairly complex, mostly due to size
limitations. You could include it (and someday somebody will), but
it's a much more difficult excercise than the electronically-coupled
adapters for Micro-4/3rds (which cost well over $100 btw). You're
taking the adapter froma simple design which is expensive enough to
manufacture that even the cheap chinese knockoffs cost $50 to a far
more complex design that would retail for a significant fraction of
the camera cost.
-Adam
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 1:00 AM, P. J. Alling
wrote:
> Let's see, your building a lens adapter, you have electronic lenses. For
> $100.00 I'd think you could include a micro motor and a chip to tell it how
> far to move, /if/ it could read the lens and communicate with the camera. I
> guess they couldn't be bothered, electronics are so expensive these days.
>
> On 2/24/2010 11:07 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
>>
>> Electrically compatible is simple. But K mount isn't functionally
>> electrically coupled. It's a mechanical mount with a few electrical
>> fatures added on to make meter coupling easier. You need a mechanical
>> system to get any aperture actuation.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:33 PM, P. J. Alling
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> So Samsung couldn't be bothered to make their new lens mount electrically
>>> compatible with their legacy lenses...
>>>
>>> I must admit the fact that a photography magazine could be so clueless
>>> about
>>> photography is a sad commentary.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [About NX->K-mount adapter] Wanna have some fun? A funny photographic comment :p
- Original Message - From: "Thibouille" Subject: Re: [About NX->K-mount adapter] Wanna have some fun? A funny photographic comment :p IMO there's another reason: Samsung can't be bothered to give Pentax a cent as for licensing the K-mount. The K-Mount was released by Pentax as an "open source", and many manufacturers have used it over the years. There are no licensing costs involved with making a K-mount camera (at least not from the POV of using the K-mount itself. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: [About NX->K-mount adapter] Wanna have some fun? A funny photographic comment :p
Not the K-mount itself (And that's what Samsung did) but a completely usuable adapter with AF, metering etc. would mean KAF2/KAF3 mount and as such, involve money. K mount has indeed always been free and AFAIK, KA is now free as well (patents unapplicable anymore?). On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:04 PM, William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - From: "Thibouille" > Subject: Re: [About NX->K-mount adapter] Wanna have some fun? A funny > photographic comment :p > > > IMO there's another reason: Samsung can't be bothered to give Pentax a > cent as for licensing the K-mount. > > > The K-Mount was released by Pentax as an "open source", and many > manufacturers have used it over the years. > There are no licensing costs involved with making a K-mount camera (at least > not from the POV of using the K-mount itself. > > William Robb > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13" Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
