Re: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

2006-02-07 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Mon, 6 Feb 2006, Fred wrote:


Yes.  At f/3.5, it's (barely, by Pentax standards)) just fast enough to
autofocus even with the 1.7X's light loss (although in reasonably bright
light I've used both the A 28-135/4 and the A 70-210/4 with the 1.7X
adapter - mostly for fun, I might add, not for serious shooting).


I am thinking mount-stress and going ouch...

Kostas



RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

2006-02-06 Thread Jens Bladt
Well, it's always in my camera bag or on the camera.
It  r e a l l y  is great!
Regards

Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

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Fra: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 4. februar 2006 13:27
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter


"Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>This is a great tool. Absolutely top quality. I only have good things to
say
>about this item. Focusing is accurate, the image quality is excellent. It
>makes focusing more accurate that MF. It's actually one of the best Pentax
>products I have ever bought. It's simply highly recomendable. You will
never
>regret buying one of these - it's better than any other converter you will
>come across. I will never sell mine, no matter how attractive the offer may
>be. I can't believe Pentax stoped making this - it is very usefull.

Come on Jens, don't be so coy. Tell us what you *really* think about
it...

--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com





Re: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

2006-02-06 Thread Fred
> BTW Jens, the A35-105/3.5 is one of the Pentax recommended lenses
> for use with the F1.7x converter! ;-)

Yes.  At f/3.5, it's (barely, by Pentax standards)) just fast enough to
autofocus even with the 1.7X's light loss (although in reasonably bright
light I've used both the A 28-135/4 and the A 70-210/4 with the 1.7X
adapter - mostly for fun, I might add, not for serious shooting).

Fred



RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

2006-02-06 Thread Don Sanderson
BTW Jens, the A35-105/3.5 is one of the Pentax recommended lenses
for use with the F1.7x converter! ;-)

Don

> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 6:27 AM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter
>
>
> "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >This is a great tool. Absolutely top quality. I only have good
> things to say
> >about this item. Focusing is accurate, the image quality is excellent. It
> >makes focusing more accurate that MF. It's actually one of the
> best Pentax
> >products I have ever bought. It's simply highly recomendable.
> You will never
> >regret buying one of these - it's better than any other
> converter you will
> >come across. I will never sell mine, no matter how attractive
> the offer may
> >be. I can't believe Pentax stoped making this - it is very usefull.
>
> Come on Jens, don't be so coy. Tell us what you *really* think about
> it...
>
> --
> Mark Roberts
> Photography and writing
> www.robertstech.com
>



Re: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

2006-02-06 Thread Mark Roberts
"Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>This is a great tool. Absolutely top quality. I only have good things to say
>about this item. Focusing is accurate, the image quality is excellent. It
>makes focusing more accurate that MF. It's actually one of the best Pentax
>products I have ever bought. It's simply highly recomendable. You will never
>regret buying one of these - it's better than any other converter you will
>come across. I will never sell mine, no matter how attractive the offer may
>be. I can't believe Pentax stoped making this - it is very usefull.

Come on Jens, don't be so coy. Tell us what you *really* think about
it...
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

2006-02-05 Thread mike wilson

Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:


On Sun, 5 Feb 2006, mike wilson wrote:


Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:

The manual states that you may get vignetting if not at infinity. But 
the T/C does not have a great focussing range (trade-off for speed), 
so some times you are forced to pre-focus (if approximately).



I'm not so sure that it is a tradeoff as much as a need to adhere to 
optical rules.  But, as you imply and nobody else has mentioned 
specifically, it is very fast at focusing.



Ah, misunderstanding, the ambiguity of speed strikes again (though your 
statement for AF speed is in agreement with my findings). What I meant 
was that in order to have a wider focus range it would have to be a 
(say) 2x converter, so as to accommodate more movement.  2x converter=2 
stop "loss".


Am I right?

Kostas


Pass.  8-)

My take is that, to be of any use without being too 
large/heavy/whatever, Pentax designed it to have limited range of focus. 
  I'm not sure this would have been influenced by the (nonfocus) speed 
of the converter.  Possibly both factors come into account.  In any 
case, this requires the user to prefocus to somewhere near the intended 
point.  Details are taken care of by the converter, rapidly.  My 
experience is that the 1.7 focuses at least as fast as the 28-70/2.8, 
probably faster.


mike



Re: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

2006-02-05 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Sun, 5 Feb 2006, mike wilson wrote:


Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:

The manual states that you may get vignetting if not at infinity. But the 
T/C does not have a great focussing range (trade-off for speed), so some 
times you are forced to pre-focus (if approximately).


I'm not so sure that it is a tradeoff as much as a need to adhere to optical 
rules.  But, as you imply and nobody else has mentioned specifically, it is 
very fast at focusing.


Ah, misunderstanding, the ambiguity of speed strikes again (though 
your statement for AF speed is in agreement with my findings). What I 
meant was that in order to have a wider focus range it would have to 
be a (say) 2x converter, so as to accommodate more movement.  2x 
converter=2 stop "loss".


Am I right?

Kostas



Re: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

2006-02-05 Thread mike wilson

Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:


On Sat, 4 Feb 2006, John Whittingham wrote:

Would it be preferable to set the lens at infinity or a shorter 
distance in

your opinion.



The manual states that you may get vignetting if not at infinity. But 
the T/C does not have a great focussing range (trade-off for speed), so 
some times you are forced to pre-focus (if approximately).


Kostas


I'm not so sure that it is a tradeoff as much as a need to adhere to 
optical rules.  But, as you imply and nobody else has mentioned 
specifically, it is very fast at focusing.


mike



Re: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

2006-02-05 Thread Thibouille
Just rememeber it will onlt allow center narrow AF even with moder
bodies and even if used with AF lenses.

--
Thibouille
--
*ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ...



SV: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

2006-02-05 Thread Jens Bladt
I paid 67 GP (118 USD) for mine, including shipping from the UK to Denmark
in September 2004.
The best spend 100 USD for photographic gear ever, I guess (or at least next
to my K 2.5/135mm, for which I paid about the same).
Regards
Jens

Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: David Savage [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 5. februar 2006 02:48
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter


On 2/5/06, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was thinking about specifically using it on my 600mm FA & 300mm FA
>
> Curious as to what they cost nowadays.

I got mine late last year new for AU$185 (approx. US$140).

Dave

> Kenneth Waller





Re: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

2006-02-04 Thread David Savage
On 2/5/06, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was thinking about specifically using it on my 600mm FA & 300mm FA
>
> Curious as to what they cost nowadays.

I got mine late last year new for AU$185 (approx. US$140).

Dave

> Kenneth Waller



Re: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

2006-02-04 Thread Rob Studdert
On 4 Feb 2006 at 17:42, Jan van Wijk wrote:
 
> Quality seems quite good, can hardly see a difference between
> this 1.7 one and the two 1.4x or 2x L converters when used on
> the 300mm (and 510mm f/5 on the *istD is good for wildlife :-)

>From a set of semi-formal tests using the AF1.7, 1.4X-L and 2-XL convertors my 
1.7 appeared to perform the best. It offered optimum performance at wider 
apertures than the X-L convertors on the four 200mm + lenses that I tested them 
with.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

2006-02-04 Thread Jens Bladt
... that depends on how far you want to focus. You set a proper range from
the beginning - or/and simply re-adjust as you go along. I guess it's
"close" - "medium" - "far" :-)
Regards
Jens

Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: John Whittingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 4. februar 2006 20:33
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter


Thanks again Jens, very informative as always.

> I just tested it with my Fa 1.4/50mm. It works just fine - but only
> within a certain range (can't "hunt" all the way back and forth).

Would it be preferable to set the lens at infinity or a shorter distance in
your opinion.

Regards,

John

John Whittingham

Technician

"you can't be optimistic with a misty optic"

-- Original Message ---
From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 20:25:55 +0100
Subject: RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

> Thanks, John.
> For panoramas like this, there's no way I could ever focus this accurate
>
> (for each frame) by hand - even very small variations of the focus
distance
> will be taken care of by the AF adapter.
> The converter does the focusing (I should have figured this out :-) -
> there's NO "SCREWDRIVER-Conection" - naturally, since the adapter
> was made for MF lenses (without a screwdriver).
>
> I just tested it with my Fa 1.4/50mm. It works just fine - but only
> within a certain range (can't "hunt" all the way back and forth). Regards
> Jens
> Jens Bladt
> http://www.jensbladt.dk
>
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: John Whittingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sendt: 4. februar 2006 20:10
> Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Emne: RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter
>
> Hi, thanks Jens. That panorama really is impressive, not just the
> image but the work you have done. I'm not in the market for an
> expensive lens such as the FA* 80-200 2.8 I'd be lucky if I could
> afford the Sigma alternative, I'm still hoping for something good
> from the promised FA zoom on the roadmap.
>
> When you use the converter with an FA lens is it the converter that
> does the focusing or the lens?
>
> Best regards,
>
> John
>
> John Whittingham
>
> Technician
>
> "you can't be optimistic with a misty optic"
>
> -- Original Message ---
> From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 11:08:35 +0100
> Subject: RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter
>
> > Yes, John.
> > I have used mine with a 2.5/135mm many times. I have used it for concert
> > shots and for long distance panoramas.
> > This one was shot with this combo:
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/41643010/in/set-877712/
> >
> > The lack of sharpness is motion blur (subject/camera), not caused by
> > the lens. So, don't forget that the converter will "eat some light" -
> >  perhaps 1½ F-stop. If you have enough light, it's fabulous.
> >
> > If you don't a FA 2.8/200mm, a FA* 2.8/80-200mm  (both rather
> > expensive) or a K 2.5/200mm (if you can find one) may be a better
choise.
> >
> > And this panrama was made with this combo as well:
> > http://gallery13117.fotopic.net/p21530701.html
> > Try to watch it in full size - it's incredibly sharp - you can
> > clearly see steel wires rather far away. I the mittle of the picture
> > (to the right of the blue chimney) is a steel pylon (for TV
> > broadcast). It is possible to count the small steel beams inside
> > this pylon (in the original picture). This pylon is apr. 15 km away
> > from where I was standing. The beams are perhaps one inch thick.
> > Amazing, don't you think?
> >
> > Regards
> > Jens
> >
> > Jens Bladt
> > http://www.jensbladt.dk
> >
> > -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> > Fra: John Whittingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sendt: 4. februar 2006 10:26
> > Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Emne: RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter
> >
> > > This is a great tool. Absolutely top quality. I only have good
> > > things to say about this item. Focusing is accurate, the image
> > > quality is excellent. It makes focusing more accurate that MF. It's
> > > actually one of the best Pentax products I have ever bought. It's
> > > simply highly recomendable. You will never regret buying one of
> > > these - it's better than any other converter you will com

RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

2006-02-04 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Sat, 4 Feb 2006, John Whittingham wrote:


Would it be preferable to set the lens at infinity or a shorter distance in
your opinion.


The manual states that you may get vignetting if not at infinity. But 
the T/C does not have a great focussing range (trade-off for speed), 
so some times you are forced to pre-focus (if approximately).


Kostas



RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

2006-02-04 Thread John Whittingham
Thanks again Jens, very informative as always.

> I just tested it with my Fa 1.4/50mm. It works just fine - but only 
> within a certain range (can't "hunt" all the way back and forth).

Would it be preferable to set the lens at infinity or a shorter distance in 
your opinion.

Regards,

John

John Whittingham

Technician

"you can't be optimistic with a misty optic"

-- Original Message ---
From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 20:25:55 +0100
Subject: RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

> Thanks, John.
> For panoramas like this, there's no way I could ever focus this accurate
> 
> (for each frame) by hand - even very small variations of the focus distance
> will be taken care of by the AF adapter.
> The converter does the focusing (I should have figured this out :-) -
> there's NO "SCREWDRIVER-Conection" - naturally, since the adapter 
> was made for MF lenses (without a screwdriver).
> 
> I just tested it with my Fa 1.4/50mm. It works just fine - but only 
> within a certain range (can't "hunt" all the way back and forth). Regards
> Jens
> Jens Bladt
> http://www.jensbladt.dk
> 
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: John Whittingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sendt: 4. februar 2006 20:10
> Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Emne: RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter
> 
> Hi, thanks Jens. That panorama really is impressive, not just the 
> image but the work you have done. I'm not in the market for an 
> expensive lens such as the FA* 80-200 2.8 I'd be lucky if I could 
> afford the Sigma alternative, I'm still hoping for something good 
> from the promised FA zoom on the roadmap.
> 
> When you use the converter with an FA lens is it the converter that 
> does the focusing or the lens?
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> John
> 
> John Whittingham
> 
> Technician
> 
> "you can't be optimistic with a misty optic"
> 
> -- Original Message ---
> From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 11:08:35 +0100
> Subject: RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter
> 
> > Yes, John.
> > I have used mine with a 2.5/135mm many times. I have used it for concert
> > shots and for long distance panoramas.
> > This one was shot with this combo:
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/41643010/in/set-877712/
> >
> > The lack of sharpness is motion blur (subject/camera), not caused by
> > the lens. So, don't forget that the converter will "eat some light" -
> >  perhaps 1½ F-stop. If you have enough light, it's fabulous.
> >
> > If you don't a FA 2.8/200mm, a FA* 2.8/80-200mm  (both rather
> > expensive) or a K 2.5/200mm (if you can find one) may be a better choise.
> >
> > And this panrama was made with this combo as well:
> > http://gallery13117.fotopic.net/p21530701.html
> > Try to watch it in full size - it's incredibly sharp - you can
> > clearly see steel wires rather far away. I the mittle of the picture
> > (to the right of the blue chimney) is a steel pylon (for TV
> > broadcast). It is possible to count the small steel beams inside
> > this pylon (in the original picture). This pylon is apr. 15 km away
> > from where I was standing. The beams are perhaps one inch thick.
> > Amazing, don't you think?
> >
> > Regards
> > Jens
> >
> > Jens Bladt
> > http://www.jensbladt.dk
> >
> > -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> > Fra: John Whittingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sendt: 4. februar 2006 10:26
> > Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Emne: RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter
> >
> > > This is a great tool. Absolutely top quality. I only have good
> > > things to say about this item. Focusing is accurate, the image
> > > quality is excellent. It makes focusing more accurate that MF. It's
> > > actually one of the best Pentax products I have ever bought. It's
> > > simply highly recomendable. You will never regret buying one of
> > > these - it's better than any other converter you will come across. I
> > > will never sell mine, no matter how attractive the offer may be. I
> > > can't believe Pentax stoped making this - it is very usefull.
> >
> > Has anyone any exprience of using the converter with the SMC 135mm
> > f/2.5, I've been considering looking for one seconhand for some time,
> >  I'm currently using the FA 135 f/2.8 with a Kenko SHQ 1.5x
> > converter as my 200mm AF lens and wondered if there would be any
> > advanta

RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

2006-02-04 Thread Jens Bladt
Thanks, John.
For panoramas like this, there's no way I could ever focus this accurate
(for each frame) by hand - even very small variations of the focus distance
will be taken care of by the AF adapter.
The converter does the focusing (I should have figured this out :-) -
there's NO "SCREWDRIVER-Conection" - naturally, since the adapter was made
for MF lenses (without a screwdriver).

I just tested it with my Fa 1.4/50mm. It works just fine - but only within a
certain range (can't "hunt" all the way back and forth).
Regards
Jens
Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: John Whittingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 4. februar 2006 20:10
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter


Hi, thanks Jens. That panorama really is impressive, not just the image but
the work you have done. I'm not in the market for an expensive lens such as
the FA* 80-200 2.8 I'd be lucky if I could afford the Sigma alternative, I'm
still hoping for something good from the promised FA zoom on the roadmap.

When you use the converter with an FA lens is it the converter that does the
focusing or the lens?

Best regards,

John

John Whittingham

Technician

"you can't be optimistic with a misty optic"

-- Original Message ---
From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 11:08:35 +0100
Subject: RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

> Yes, John.
> I have used mine with a 2.5/135mm many times. I have used it for concert
> shots and for long distance panoramas.
> This one was shot with this combo:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/41643010/in/set-877712/
>
> The lack of sharpness is motion blur (subject/camera), not caused by
> the lens. So, don't forget that the converter will "eat some light" -
>  perhaps 1½ F-stop. If you have enough light, it's fabulous.
>
> If you don't a FA 2.8/200mm, a FA* 2.8/80-200mm  (both rather
> expensive) or a K 2.5/200mm (if you can find one) may be a better choise.
>
> And this panrama was made with this combo as well:
> http://gallery13117.fotopic.net/p21530701.html
> Try to watch it in full size - it's incredibly sharp - you can
> clearly see steel wires rather far away. I the mittle of the picture
> (to the right of the blue chimney) is a steel pylon (for TV
> broadcast). It is possible to count the small steel beams inside
> this pylon (in the original picture). This pylon is apr. 15 km away
> from where I was standing. The beams are perhaps one inch thick.
> Amazing, don't you think?
>
> Regards
> Jens
>
> Jens Bladt
> http://www.jensbladt.dk
>
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: John Whittingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sendt: 4. februar 2006 10:26
> Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Emne: RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter
>
> > This is a great tool. Absolutely top quality. I only have good
> > things to say about this item. Focusing is accurate, the image
> > quality is excellent. It makes focusing more accurate that MF. It's
> > actually one of the best Pentax products I have ever bought. It's
> > simply highly recomendable. You will never regret buying one of
> > these - it's better than any other converter you will come across. I
> > will never sell mine, no matter how attractive the offer may be. I
> > can't believe Pentax stoped making this - it is very usefull.
>
> Has anyone any exprience of using the converter with the SMC 135mm
> f/2.5, I've been considering looking for one seconhand for some time,
>  I'm currently using the FA 135 f/2.8 with a Kenko SHQ 1.5x
> converter as my 200mm AF lens and wondered if there would be any
> advantage optically other than a slight increase in FL.
>
> Regards,
>
> John
>
> John Whittingham
>
> Technician
>
> "you can't be optimistic with a misty optic"
>
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RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

2006-02-04 Thread John Whittingham
Hi, thanks Jens. That panorama really is impressive, not just the image but 
the work you have done. I'm not in the market for an expensive lens such as 
the FA* 80-200 2.8 I'd be lucky if I could afford the Sigma alternative, I'm 
still hoping for something good from the promised FA zoom on the roadmap.

When you use the converter with an FA lens is it the converter that does the 
focusing or the lens?

Best regards,

John

John Whittingham

Technician

"you can't be optimistic with a misty optic"

-- Original Message ---
From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 11:08:35 +0100
Subject: RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

> Yes, John.
> I have used mine with a 2.5/135mm many times. I have used it for concert
> shots and for long distance panoramas.
> This one was shot with this combo:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/41643010/in/set-877712/
> 
> The lack of sharpness is motion blur (subject/camera), not caused by 
> the lens. So, don't forget that the converter will "eat some light" -
>  perhaps 1½ F-stop. If you have enough light, it's fabulous.
> 
> If you don't a FA 2.8/200mm, a FA* 2.8/80-200mm  (both rather 
> expensive) or a K 2.5/200mm (if you can find one) may be a better choise.
> 
> And this panrama was made with this combo as well:
> http://gallery13117.fotopic.net/p21530701.html
> Try to watch it in full size - it's incredibly sharp - you can 
> clearly see steel wires rather far away. I the mittle of the picture 
> (to the right of the blue chimney) is a steel pylon (for TV 
> broadcast). It is possible to count the small steel beams inside 
> this pylon (in the original picture). This pylon is apr. 15 km away 
> from where I was standing. The beams are perhaps one inch thick. 
> Amazing, don't you think?
> 
> Regards
> Jens
> 
> Jens Bladt
> http://www.jensbladt.dk
> 
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: John Whittingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 
> > This is a great tool. Absolutely top quality. I only have good
> > things to say about this item. Focusing is accurate, the image
> > quality is excellent. It makes focusing more accurate that MF. It's
> > actually one of the best Pentax products I have ever bought. It's
> > simply highly recomendable. You will never regret buying one of
> > these - it's better than any other converter you will come across. I
> > will never sell mine, no matter how attractive the offer may be. I
> > can't believe Pentax stoped making this - it is very usefull.
> 
> Has anyone any exprience of using the converter with the SMC 135mm 
> f/2.5, I've been considering looking for one seconhand for some time,
>  I'm currently using the FA 135 f/2.8 with a Kenko SHQ 1.5x 
> converter as my 200mm AF lens and wondered if there would be any 
> advantage optically other than a slight increase in FL.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> John
> 
> John Whittingham
> 
> Technician
> 
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RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

2006-02-04 Thread Jens Bladt
I have used mine a lot on the M* 4/300mm with great reslults.
But why use an AF adapter on AF lenses?
I'm not sure AF works (well or at all) on an AF lens. 

Regards
Jens
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Fra: Kenneth Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 4. februar 2006 18:08
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter


>>Seeking comments about usage/performance on FA lenses.

Thanks to all that responded to my request - one of the great things about 
this list.

I was thinking about specifically using it on my 600mm FA & 300mm FA

Curious as to what they cost nowadays.

Kenneth Waller

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From: "Jan van Wijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Re: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter


> On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 15:10:45 -0500, Kenneth Waller wrote:
>
>>Seeking comments about usage/performance on FA lenses.
>>Image degradation/auto focus performance etc.
>
> It is VERY good in my experience.
>
> I liked mine so much, I got another used one as spare :-)
> One is almost permanently on the A 300mm f/2.8 and
> the other is used with all the others.
>
> Works great on MF lenses, and is nice on an AF one
> to reduce the AF hunting area (focus limit).
>
> Quality seems quite good, can hardly see a difference between
> this 1.7 one and the two 1.4x or 2x L converters when used on
> the 300mm (and 510mm f/5 on the *istD is good for wildlife :-)
>
> Regards, JvW
>
> --
> Jan van Wijk;   http://www.dfsee.com/gallery
>
> 





Re: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

2006-02-04 Thread Kenneth Waller

Seeking comments about usage/performance on FA lenses.


Thanks to all that responded to my request - one of the great things about 
this list.


I was thinking about specifically using it on my 600mm FA & 300mm FA

Curious as to what they cost nowadays.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: "Jan van Wijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Subject: Re: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter



On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 15:10:45 -0500, Kenneth Waller wrote:


Seeking comments about usage/performance on FA lenses.
Image degradation/auto focus performance etc.


It is VERY good in my experience.

I liked mine so much, I got another used one as spare :-)
One is almost permanently on the A 300mm f/2.8 and
the other is used with all the others.

Works great on MF lenses, and is nice on an AF one
to reduce the AF hunting area (focus limit).

Quality seems quite good, can hardly see a difference between
this 1.7 one and the two 1.4x or 2x L converters when used on
the 300mm (and 510mm f/5 on the *istD is good for wildlife :-)

Regards, JvW

--
Jan van Wijk;   http://www.dfsee.com/gallery






Re: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

2006-02-04 Thread Jan van Wijk
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 15:10:45 -0500, Kenneth Waller wrote:

>Seeking comments about usage/performance on FA lenses. 
>Image degradation/auto focus performance etc.

It is VERY good in my experience.

I liked mine so much, I got another used one as spare :-)
One is almost permanently on the A 300mm f/2.8 and 
the other is used with all the others.

Works great on MF lenses, and is nice on an AF one 
to reduce the AF hunting area (focus limit).

Quality seems quite good, can hardly see a difference between
this 1.7 one and the two 1.4x or 2x L converters when used on
the 300mm (and 510mm f/5 on the *istD is good for wildlife :-)

Regards, JvW

--
Jan van Wijk;   http://www.dfsee.com/gallery




RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

2006-02-04 Thread Jens Bladt
Yes, John.
I have used mine with a 2.5/135mm many times. I have used it for concert
shots and for long distance panoramas.
This one was shot with this combo:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/41643010/in/set-877712/

The lack of sharpness is motion blur (subject/camera), not caused by the
lens.
So, don't forget that the converter will "eat some light" - perhaps 1½
F-stop.
If you have enough light, it's fabulous.

If you don't a FA 2.8/200mm, a FA* 2.8/80-200mm  (both rather expensive) or
a K 2.5/200mm (if you can find one) may be a better choise.

And this panrama was made with this combo as well:
http://gallery13117.fotopic.net/p21530701.html
Try to watch it in full size - it's incredibly sharp - you can clearly see
steel wires rather far away.
I the mittle of the picture (to the right of the blue chimney) is a steel
pylon (for TV broadcast).
It is possible to count the small steel beams inside this pylon (in the
original picture). This pylon is apr. 15 km away from where I was standing.
The beams are perhaps one inch thick. Amazing, don't you think?


Regards
Jens


Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

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Fra: John Whittingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 4. februar 2006 10:26
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter


> This is a great tool. Absolutely top quality. I only have good
> things to say about this item. Focusing is accurate, the image
> quality is excellent. It makes focusing more accurate that MF. It's
> actually one of the best Pentax products I have ever bought. It's
> simply highly recomendable. You will never regret buying one of
> these - it's better than any other converter you will come across. I
> will never sell mine, no matter how attractive the offer may be. I
> can't believe Pentax stoped making this - it is very usefull.

Has anyone any exprience of using the converter with the SMC 135mm f/2.5,
I've been considering looking for one seconhand for some time, I'm currently
using the FA 135 f/2.8 with a Kenko SHQ 1.5x converter as my 200mm AF lens
and wondered if there would be any advantage optically other than a slight
increase in FL.

Regards,

John

John Whittingham

Technician

"you can't be optimistic with a misty optic"





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RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

2006-02-04 Thread John Whittingham
> This is a great tool. Absolutely top quality. I only have good 
> things to say about this item. Focusing is accurate, the image 
> quality is excellent. It makes focusing more accurate that MF. It's 
> actually one of the best Pentax products I have ever bought. It's 
> simply highly recomendable. You will never regret buying one of 
> these - it's better than any other converter you will come across. I 
> will never sell mine, no matter how attractive the offer may be. I 
> can't believe Pentax stoped making this - it is very usefull.

Has anyone any exprience of using the converter with the SMC 135mm f/2.5, 
I've been considering looking for one seconhand for some time, I'm currently 
using the FA 135 f/2.8 with a Kenko SHQ 1.5x converter as my 200mm AF lens 
and wondered if there would be any advantage optically other than a slight 
increase in FL.

Regards,

John

John Whittingham

Technician

"you can't be optimistic with a misty optic"




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RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

2006-02-03 Thread Rob Studdert
On 3 Feb 2006 at 23:40, Jens Bladt wrote:

> This is a great tool. Absolutely top quality. I only have good things to say
> about this item. Focusing is accurate, the image quality is excellent. It
> makes focusing more accurate that MF. It's actually one of the best Pentax
> products I have ever bought. It's simply highly recomendable. You will never
> regret buying one of these - it's better than any other converter you will
> come across. I will never sell mine, no matter how attractive the offer may
> be. I can't believe Pentax stoped making this - it is very usefull.

I've got to agree with Jens 100%, it's one of the best TCs I've ever used apart 
from the AF action which I have found very useful particularly given that you 
can limit AF hunt by pre-setting the lens focus.


Rob Studdert
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RE: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

2006-02-03 Thread Jens Bladt
This is a great tool. Absolutely top quality. I only have good things to say
about this item. Focusing is accurate, the image quality is excellent. It
makes focusing more accurate that MF. It's actually one of the best Pentax
products I have ever bought. It's simply highly recomendable. You will never
regret buying one of these - it's better than any other converter you will
come across. I will never sell mine, no matter how attractive the offer may
be. I can't believe Pentax stoped making this - it is very usefull.

Regards
Jens

Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

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Fra: Kenneth Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 3. februar 2006 21:11
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter


Seeking comments about usage/performance on FA lenses.
Image degradation/auto focus performance etc.

Thanks in advance

Kenneth Waller





Re: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

2006-02-03 Thread Mark Stringer
I have had great success, mostly on a F 300 4.5.  Not the application 
intended by Pentax but as a multiplier it has fine optics.


Mark Stringer


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From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 2:10 PM
Subject: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter


Seeking comments about usage/performance on FA lenses. Image 
degradation/auto focus performance etc.


Thanks in advance

Kenneth Waller






Re: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

2006-02-03 Thread Mark Stringer
I have had great success, mostly on a F 300 4.5.  Not the application 
intended by Pentax but as a multiplier it has fine optics.


Mark Stringer


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From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 2:10 PM
Subject: 1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter


Seeking comments about usage/performance on FA lenses. Image 
degradation/auto focus performance etc.


Thanks in advance

Kenneth Waller






1.7 XAF SMC Pentax adapter

2006-02-03 Thread Kenneth Waller
Seeking comments about usage/performance on FA lenses. 
Image degradation/auto focus performance etc.


Thanks in advance

Kenneth Waller