Re: A 70-210 F4 assistance.

2007-11-23 Thread David J Brooks
On 11/22/07, John Coyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David, it's the rubber grip you roll back, not the ring itself: on my copy, 
> it's quite flexible, although I had to use a
> tiny screwdriver to lift the edge to get a start on it.

Yes, i think i'll need to do that as well.

Thanks

Dave
>
> John Coyle
> Brisbane, Australia
> - Original Message -
> From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 9:14 AM
> Subject: Re: A 70-210 F4 assistance.
>
>
> > Someone over at Pentaxforums, posted a shot of the ting folded back
> > and showed the screws. I now see where i have to look, but the focus
> > ring sure is stiff.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On 11/22/07, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I have tried that, but the focus ring is very stiff, and soes not seem
> >> t want to bend.
> >>
> >> I'll try again
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >> On 11/22/07, John Coyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > Dave, just roll back the edge of the focussing ring nearest the body.  
> >> > There are three small screws there, and you
> >> > probably only need to give them a small tweak.  Don't over-tighten!
> >> >
> >> > No pictures, I'm afraid...
> >> >
> >> > John Coyle
> >> > Brisbane, Australia
> >> > - Original Message -
> >> > From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > To: "Pentax Discuss" 
> >> > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 9:54 PM
> >> > Subject: A 70-210 F4 assistance.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >I have been told a number of times, that the focus slackness can be
> >> > > tightened by turning 3-4 screws under a piece of rubber.
> >> > >
> >> > > I have yet to find this peice of rubber that can be rolled back to
> >> > > expose the screws.
> >> > >
> >> > > Does anyone have a picture of said rubber piece rolled back.
> >> > >
> >> > > Its snowing and freezing rain and ice pelleting out this morning and i
> >> > > want t wander around town for some shots, and i feel like using the
> >> > > A70-210 F4, but i have sloppy focus.( yes i realize the come backs
> >> > > with that statement.:-))
> >> > >
> >> > > Dave
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Re: A 70-210 F4 assistance.

2007-11-22 Thread John Coyle
David, it's the rubber grip you roll back, not the ring itself: on my copy, 
it's quite flexible, although I had to use a 
tiny screwdriver to lift the edge to get a start on it.

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
- Original Message - 
From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: A 70-210 F4 assistance.


> Someone over at Pentaxforums, posted a shot of the ting folded back
> and showed the screws. I now see where i have to look, but the focus
> ring sure is stiff.
>
> Dave
>
> On 11/22/07, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I have tried that, but the focus ring is very stiff, and soes not seem
>> t want to bend.
>>
>> I'll try again
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On 11/22/07, John Coyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Dave, just roll back the edge of the focussing ring nearest the body.  
>> > There are three small screws there, and you
>> > probably only need to give them a small tweak.  Don't over-tighten!
>> >
>> > No pictures, I'm afraid...
>> >
>> > John Coyle
>> > Brisbane, Australia
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "Pentax Discuss" 
>> > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 9:54 PM
>> > Subject: A 70-210 F4 assistance.
>> >
>> >
>> > >I have been told a number of times, that the focus slackness can be
>> > > tightened by turning 3-4 screws under a piece of rubber.
>> > >
>> > > I have yet to find this peice of rubber that can be rolled back to
>> > > expose the screws.
>> > >
>> > > Does anyone have a picture of said rubber piece rolled back.
>> > >
>> > > Its snowing and freezing rain and ice pelleting out this morning and i
>> > > want t wander around town for some shots, and i feel like using the
>> > > A70-210 F4, but i have sloppy focus.( yes i realize the come backs
>> > > with that statement.:-))
>> > >
>> > > Dave
>> > >
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Re: A 70-210 F4 assistance.

2007-11-22 Thread David J Brooks
Someone over at Pentaxforums, posted a shot of the ting folded back
and showed the screws. I now see where i have to look, but the focus
ring sure is stiff.

Dave

On 11/22/07, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have tried that, but the focus ring is very stiff, and soes not seem
> t want to bend.
>
> I'll try again
>
> Dave
>
> On 11/22/07, John Coyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Dave, just roll back the edge of the focussing ring nearest the body.  
> > There are three small screws there, and you
> > probably only need to give them a small tweak.  Don't over-tighten!
> >
> > No pictures, I'm afraid...
> >
> > John Coyle
> > Brisbane, Australia
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Pentax Discuss" 
> > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 9:54 PM
> > Subject: A 70-210 F4 assistance.
> >
> >
> > >I have been told a number of times, that the focus slackness can be
> > > tightened by turning 3-4 screws under a piece of rubber.
> > >
> > > I have yet to find this peice of rubber that can be rolled back to
> > > expose the screws.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have a picture of said rubber piece rolled back.
> > >
> > > Its snowing and freezing rain and ice pelleting out this morning and i
> > > want t wander around town for some shots, and i feel like using the
> > > A70-210 F4, but i have sloppy focus.( yes i realize the come backs
> > > with that statement.:-))
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
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Re: A 70-210 F4 assistance.

2007-11-22 Thread David J Brooks
I have tried that, but the focus ring is very stiff, and soes not seem
t want to bend.

I'll try again

Dave

On 11/22/07, John Coyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dave, just roll back the edge of the focussing ring nearest the body.  There 
> are three small screws there, and you
> probably only need to give them a small tweak.  Don't over-tighten!
>
> No pictures, I'm afraid...
>
> John Coyle
> Brisbane, Australia
> - Original Message -
> From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Pentax Discuss" 
> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 9:54 PM
> Subject: A 70-210 F4 assistance.
>
>
> >I have been told a number of times, that the focus slackness can be
> > tightened by turning 3-4 screws under a piece of rubber.
> >
> > I have yet to find this peice of rubber that can be rolled back to
> > expose the screws.
> >
> > Does anyone have a picture of said rubber piece rolled back.
> >
> > Its snowing and freezing rain and ice pelleting out this morning and i
> > want t wander around town for some shots, and i feel like using the
> > A70-210 F4, but i have sloppy focus.( yes i realize the come backs
> > with that statement.:-))
> >
> > Dave
> >
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Re: A 70-210 F4 assistance.

2007-11-22 Thread John Coyle
Dave, just roll back the edge of the focussing ring nearest the body.  There 
are three small screws there, and you 
probably only need to give them a small tweak.  Don't over-tighten!

No pictures, I'm afraid...

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
- Original Message - 
From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pentax Discuss" 
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 9:54 PM
Subject: A 70-210 F4 assistance.


>I have been told a number of times, that the focus slackness can be
> tightened by turning 3-4 screws under a piece of rubber.
>
> I have yet to find this peice of rubber that can be rolled back to
> expose the screws.
>
> Does anyone have a picture of said rubber piece rolled back.
>
> Its snowing and freezing rain and ice pelleting out this morning and i
> want t wander around town for some shots, and i feel like using the
> A70-210 F4, but i have sloppy focus.( yes i realize the come backs
> with that statement.:-))
>
> Dave
>
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Re: A 70-210 F4 assistance.

2007-11-22 Thread mike wilson

> 
> From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/11/22 Thu AM 11:54:16 GMT
> To: "Pentax Discuss" 
> Subject: A 70-210 F4 assistance.
> 
> I have been told a number of times, that the focus slackness can be
> tightened by turning 3-4 screws under a piece of rubber.
> 
> I have yet to find this peice of rubber that can be rolled back to
> expose the screws.
> 
> Does anyone have a picture of said rubber piece rolled back.
> 
> Its snowing and freezing rain and ice pelleting out this morning and i
> want t wander around town for some shots, and i feel like using the
> A70-210 F4, but i have sloppy focus.( yes i realize the come backs
> with that statement.:-))

If you can wait until the weekend, I will make some pix to show you.  Actually, 
you don't have a choice


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Re: A 70-210 F4 assistance.

2007-11-22 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks.

The way things are out today, wider might be better:-)

Dave

Dave

On 11/22/07, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 2007/11/22 Thu AM 11:54:16 GMT
> > To: "Pentax Discuss" 
> > Subject: A 70-210 F4 assistance.
> >
> > I have been told a number of times, that the focus slackness can be
> > tightened by turning 3-4 screws under a piece of rubber.
> >
> > I have yet to find this peice of rubber that can be rolled back to
> > expose the screws.
> >
> > Does anyone have a picture of said rubber piece rolled back.
> >
> > Its snowing and freezing rain and ice pelleting out this morning and i
> > want t wander around town for some shots, and i feel like using the
> > A70-210 F4, but i have sloppy focus.( yes i realize the come backs
> > with that statement.:-))
>
> If you can wait until the weekend, I will make some pix to show you.  
> Actually, you don't have a choice
>
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A 70-210 F4 assistance.

2007-11-22 Thread David J Brooks
I have been told a number of times, that the focus slackness can be
tightened by turning 3-4 screws under a piece of rubber.

I have yet to find this peice of rubber that can be rolled back to
expose the screws.

Does anyone have a picture of said rubber piece rolled back.

Its snowing and freezing rain and ice pelleting out this morning and i
want t wander around town for some shots, and i feel like using the
A70-210 F4, but i have sloppy focus.( yes i realize the come backs
with that statement.:-))

Dave

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Re: quick report: A 70-210 F4 on *ist-Ds

2007-01-14 Thread Adam Maas
The 50-200 is a solid little lens. The 70-210 f4 is far better built. 
This isn't a put-down of the 50-200, but a compliment to the solid build 
of the 70-210.

-Adam


Thibouille wrote:
> I do not see any build quality on my particuliar DA 50-200.
> It feels certainly beter built than ma DA 18-55.
> 
> 2007/1/14, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Pentax now offers the DA 40-200 4/5.6. An  excellent lens for the
>> money, although the build quality is so-so. The next lens you'll see
>> that meets your needs is the DA*. I believe it's a 60-210, f4. If you
>> require full frame, there are no lenses on the chart.
>> Paul
>> On Jan 14, 2007, at 12:19 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
>>
>>> Have you tried a basic L bracket grip with the combo? I have used
>>> these
>>> for
>>> years with long/heavy lenses and they certainly help.
>>> jco
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>> Behalf Of
>>> Mark Erickson
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 11:43 PM
>>> To: PDML
>>> Subject: quick report: A 70-210 F4 on *ist-Ds
>>>
>>>
>>> I sold my FA* 80-200 F2.8 for way too much money last spring and ended
>>> up with a hole in my lens lineup.  To fill it, I picked up an SMC-A
>>> 70-210 F4 zoom on eBay recently.  Here's my quick report on using it
>>> with my *ist-Ds and pixel-peeping the results.  I got this lens
>>> based on
>>> advice from Bruce Dayton and others on the list
>>>
>>> Image quality: Quite sharp wide open at both ends (70 and 210).  Not a
>>> lot sharper stopped down to F11, but a bit higher contrast when
>>> stopped
>>> down. The built in hood and/or SMC coating seems to do a good job.
>>>
>>> Handling: Longer than I expected.  Feels good on an MZ-S with battery
>>> grip, but completely overpowers the *ist-Ds.  The small grip of the Ds
>>> doesn't have enough leverage to handle the lens, so my right hand gets
>>> tired pretty fast even when I'm using my left to support the lens.
>>> I'll
>>> have to try different methods of holding the lens and camera to find a
>>> comfortable solution.  My guess is that the lens would feel pretty
>>> good
>>> on a K10D with battery grip.  About as big and heavy as I would
>>> want to
>>> put on my Ds on a tripod.  It would probably be better on a bean-bag
>>> support.
>>>
>>> Conclusion:  this lens fills a gap between the 200mm F5.6 low-cost
>>> zooms
>>> and "professional grade" F2.8 lenses.  I really really really wish
>>> that
>>> Pentax would release an autofocus version of this lens!  I picked mine
>>> up on eBay in near-new condition with hard case for around $120.
>>>
>>> --Mark
>>>
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Re: quick report: A 70-210 F4 on *ist-Ds

2007-01-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
It will probably have to be it - but it is going to be a bit bigger
for that zoom range.  I'd like to see around 50-150/4 or so - constant
aperture and high quality.  I'll probably have to consider the
DA*50-135/2.8 and/or the DA*60-250/4.

We'll see what the prices are like.

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Sunday, January 14, 2007, 7:17:40 PM, you wrote:

ME> I guess I missed that one in the roadmap.  That actually
ME> sounds like the missing lens in the lineup!  Hm.

ME> --Mark

ME> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>>
>>The next lens up the chain, due in 2007 sometime, is the DA*60-260/4.
>>
>>I'm glad for my bank account that I don't use such long lenses very
>>often... !
>>
>>Godfrey






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Re: quick report: A 70-210 F4 on *ist-Ds

2007-01-14 Thread Mark Erickson
I guess I missed that one in the roadmap.  That actually
sounds like the missing lens in the lineup!  Hm.

--Mark

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>
>The next lens up the chain, due in 2007 sometime, is the DA*60-260/4.
>
>I'm glad for my bank account that I don't use such long lenses very  
>often... !
>
>Godfrey



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Re: quick report: A 70-210 F4 on *ist-Ds

2007-01-14 Thread Christian
Paul Stenquist wrote:
> Yes. I think one of the things that has helped Pentax in the DSLR  
> entry market is the quality of their less expensive lenses. The  
> competitions lenses feel like toys compared to the Pentax offerings.
> Paul

Couldn't agree more.  My Canon CKL is just awful.  Even compared to the 
lowly FAJ 18-35 which I actually thought was pretty decent optically, 
even if a bit light on build.


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Re: quick report: A 70-210 F4 on *ist-Ds

2007-01-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The next lens up the chain, due in 2007 sometime, is the DA*60-260/4.

I'm glad for my bank account that I don't use such long lenses very  
often... !

Godfrey


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RE: quick report: A 70-210 F4 on *ist-Ds

2007-01-14 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Francis
I was quite surprised that the test animal portrait photos  I took at 300mm
with the Sigma AF 70-300mm zoom where quite good regarding sharpness.
And nobody seems to like cheap Sigma zooms :-) I got that zoom in a bundle
with an AF 400FTZ and a body and will probably sell it later when the Pentax
lens dryness on auctions here continues. It looks like people buy everything
with a K mount at the moment.
On the other side the AF400FTZ seems to overexpose up to 2 stops with ISO
400 Kodak UC film in bright daylight on
TTL on my SFXn film camera and a distance of about 2 meters with a middle
grey! haired dog.  At 5 meters everything looks fine again.

This list seems to prefer fast premium quality lenses despite the
shortcomings :-)

greetings
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Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 7:53 PM
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Subject: Re: quick report: A 70-210 F4 on *ist-Ds


On Sun, Jan 14, 2007 at 12:08:17PM +0100, Thibouille wrote:
> I do not see any build quality on my particuliar DA 50-200.
> It feels certainly beter built than ma DA 18-55.

Wow.  I'd seen quite a few put-downs of the 18-55, so I was
very pleasantly surprised when I actually got one.  It might
not feel as solid as my FA* lenses, but I've no complaints.


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Re: quick report: A 70-210 F4 on *ist-Ds

2007-01-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yes. I think one of the things that has helped Pentax in the DSLR  
entry market is the quality of their less expensive lenses. The  
competitions lenses feel like toys compared to the Pentax offerings.
Paul
On Jan 14, 2007, at 1:52 PM, John Francis wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 14, 2007 at 12:08:17PM +0100, Thibouille wrote:
>> I do not see any build quality on my particuliar DA 50-200.
>> It feels certainly beter built than ma DA 18-55.
>
> Wow.  I'd seen quite a few put-downs of the 18-55, so I was
> very pleasantly surprised when I actually got one.  It might
> not feel as solid as my FA* lenses, but I've no complaints.
>
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Re: quick report: A 70-210 F4 on *ist-Ds

2007-01-14 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Jan 14, 2007 at 12:08:17PM +0100, Thibouille wrote:
> I do not see any build quality on my particuliar DA 50-200.
> It feels certainly beter built than ma DA 18-55.

Wow.  I'd seen quite a few put-downs of the 18-55, so I was
very pleasantly surprised when I actually got one.  It might
not feel as solid as my FA* lenses, but I've no complaints.


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Re: quick report: A 70-210 F4 on *ist-Ds

2007-01-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
The DA 50-200 is a big step up from the kit lens in quality. Yes,  
it's slow and it's not constant ap but it's a good optic.
Paul
On Jan 14, 2007, at 12:16 PM, Mark Erickson wrote:

> The 50-200 is an example of the F5.6 consumer zooms that I  
> referenced in my
> original post.  I think that many of us here wish that Pentax had  
> put out a
> 50-200 F4 to match that 16-45 F4 rather than the 50-200 F5.6 that  
> matches
> the 18-55 kit lens.
>
>> Paul,
>>
>> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>> Pentax now offers the DA 40-200 4/5.6. An  excellent lens for the
>>> money, although the build quality is so-so. The next lens you'll see
>>> that meets your needs is the DA*. I believe it's a 60-210, f4. If  
>>> you
>>> require full frame, there are no lenses on the chart.
>>> Paul
>>
>> May I humbly point out that the lens is actually DA 50-200.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Boris
>>
>>
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Re: quick report: A 70-210 F4 on *ist-Ds

2007-01-14 Thread Mark Erickson
The 50-200 is an example of the F5.6 consumer zooms that I referenced in my
original post.  I think that many of us here wish that Pentax had put out a
50-200 F4 to match that 16-45 F4 rather than the 50-200 F5.6 that matches
the 18-55 kit lens.

> Paul,
>
> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> Pentax now offers the DA 40-200 4/5.6. An  excellent lens for the
>> money, although the build quality is so-so. The next lens you'll see
>> that meets your needs is the DA*. I believe it's a 60-210, f4. If you
>> require full frame, there are no lenses on the chart.
>> Paul
>
> May I humbly point out that the lens is actually DA 50-200.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Boris
>
>


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Re: quick report: A 70-210 F4 on *ist-Ds

2007-01-14 Thread Jack Davis
I lied! (sorry)  =)

Jack
--- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jack Davis" 
> Subject: Re: quick report: A 70-210 F4 on *ist-Ds
> 
> 
> > May I in all humility point out that the DA* will be a 60~250?
> 
> No.
> Humility is for wimps.
> WW
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Re: quick report: A 70-210 F4 on *ist-Ds

2007-01-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yes you may. I couldn't find a reference, so I guessed:-)).
Paul
On Jan 14, 2007, at 9:16 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

> May I in all humility point out that the DA* will be a 60~250?
>
> Jack
> --- Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Paul,
>>
>> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>> Pentax now offers the DA 40-200 4/5.6. An  excellent lens for the
>>> money, although the build quality is so-so. The next lens you'll
>> see
>>> that meets your needs is the DA*. I believe it's a 60-210, f4. If
>> you
>>> require full frame, there are no lenses on the chart.
>>> Paul
>>
>> May I humbly point out that the lens is actually DA 50-200.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Boris
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Re: quick report: A 70-210 F4 on *ist-Ds

2007-01-14 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Jack Davis" 
Subject: Re: quick report: A 70-210 F4 on *ist-Ds


> May I in all humility point out that the DA* will be a 60~250?

No.
Humility is for wimps.
WW

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Re: quick report: A 70-210 F4 on *ist-Ds

2007-01-14 Thread Jack Davis
May I in all humility point out that the DA* will be a 60~250?

Jack
--- Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Paul,
> 
> Paul Stenquist wrote:
> > Pentax now offers the DA 40-200 4/5.6. An  excellent lens for the  
> > money, although the build quality is so-so. The next lens you'll
> see  
> > that meets your needs is the DA*. I believe it's a 60-210, f4. If
> you  
> > require full frame, there are no lenses on the chart.
> > Paul
> 
> May I humbly point out that the lens is actually DA 50-200.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Boris
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Re: quick report: A 70-210 F4 on *ist-Ds

2007-01-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yes, it was getting late:-).
On Jan 14, 2007, at 1:33 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

> Paul,
>
> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> Pentax now offers the DA 40-200 4/5.6. An  excellent lens for the
>> money, although the build quality is so-so. The next lens you'll see
>> that meets your needs is the DA*. I believe it's a 60-210, f4. If you
>> require full frame, there are no lenses on the chart.
>> Paul
>
> May I humbly point out that the lens is actually DA 50-200.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Boris
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Re: quick report: A 70-210 F4 on *ist-Ds

2007-01-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
You're right. the DA 50-200 a good lens. However, it doesn't have quite 
as good a feel as the DA 16-45, and it's quite a bit short of the 
excellent build quality of the DA 12-24.
Paul
On Jan 14, 2007, at 6:08 AM, Thibouille wrote:

> I do not see any build quality on my particuliar DA 50-200.
> It feels certainly beter built than ma DA 18-55.
>
> 2007/1/14, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Pentax now offers the DA 40-200 4/5.6. An  excellent lens for the
>> money, although the build quality is so-so. The next lens you'll see
>> that meets your needs is the DA*. I believe it's a 60-210, f4. If you
>> require full frame, there are no lenses on the chart.
>> Paul
>> On Jan 14, 2007, at 12:19 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
>>
>>> Have you tried a basic L bracket grip with the combo? I have used
>>> these
>>> for
>>> years with long/heavy lenses and they certainly help.
>>> jco
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>> Behalf Of
>>> Mark Erickson
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 11:43 PM
>>> To: PDML
>>> Subject: quick report: A 70-210 F4 on *ist-Ds
>>>
>>>
>>> I sold my FA* 80-200 F2.8 for way too much money last spring and 
>>> ended
>>> up with a hole in my lens lineup.  To fill it, I picked up an SMC-A
>>> 70-210 F4 zoom on eBay recently.  Here's my quick report on using it
>>> with my *ist-Ds and pixel-peeping the results.  I got this lens
>>> based on
>>> advice from Bruce Dayton and others on the list
>>>
>>> Image quality: Quite sharp wide open at both ends (70 and 210).  Not 
>>> a
>>> lot sharper stopped down to F11, but a bit higher contrast when
>>> stopped
>>> down. The built in hood and/or SMC coating seems to do a good job.
>>>
>>> Handling: Longer than I expected.  Feels good on an MZ-S with battery
>>> grip, but completely overpowers the *ist-Ds.  The small grip of the 
>>> Ds
>>> doesn't have enough leverage to handle the lens, so my right hand 
>>> gets
>>> tired pretty fast even when I'm using my left to support the lens.
>>> I'll
>>> have to try different methods of holding the lens and camera to find 
>>> a
>>> comfortable solution.  My guess is that the lens would feel pretty
>>> good
>>> on a K10D with battery grip.  About as big and heavy as I would
>>> want to
>>> put on my Ds on a tripod.  It would probably be better on a bean-bag
>>> support.
>>>
>>> Conclusion:  this lens fills a gap between the 200mm F5.6 low-cost
>>> zooms
>>> and "professional grade" F2.8 lenses.  I really really really wish
>>> that
>>> Pentax would release an autofocus version of this lens!  I picked 
>>> mine
>>> up on eBay in near-new condition with hard case for around $120.
>>>
>>> --Mark
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Re: quick report: A 70-210 F4 on *ist-Ds

2007-01-14 Thread Thibouille
I do not see any build quality on my particuliar DA 50-200.
It feels certainly beter built than ma DA 18-55.

2007/1/14, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Pentax now offers the DA 40-200 4/5.6. An  excellent lens for the
> money, although the build quality is so-so. The next lens you'll see
> that meets your needs is the DA*. I believe it's a 60-210, f4. If you
> require full frame, there are no lenses on the chart.
> Paul
> On Jan 14, 2007, at 12:19 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
>
> > Have you tried a basic L bracket grip with the combo? I have used
> > these
> > for
> > years with long/heavy lenses and they certainly help.
> > jco
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of
> > Mark Erickson
> > Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 11:43 PM
> > To: PDML
> > Subject: quick report: A 70-210 F4 on *ist-Ds
> >
> >
> > I sold my FA* 80-200 F2.8 for way too much money last spring and ended
> > up with a hole in my lens lineup.  To fill it, I picked up an SMC-A
> > 70-210 F4 zoom on eBay recently.  Here's my quick report on using it
> > with my *ist-Ds and pixel-peeping the results.  I got this lens
> > based on
> > advice from Bruce Dayton and others on the list
> >
> > Image quality: Quite sharp wide open at both ends (70 and 210).  Not a
> > lot sharper stopped down to F11, but a bit higher contrast when
> > stopped
> > down. The built in hood and/or SMC coating seems to do a good job.
> >
> > Handling: Longer than I expected.  Feels good on an MZ-S with battery
> > grip, but completely overpowers the *ist-Ds.  The small grip of the Ds
> > doesn't have enough leverage to handle the lens, so my right hand gets
> > tired pretty fast even when I'm using my left to support the lens.
> > I'll
> > have to try different methods of holding the lens and camera to find a
> > comfortable solution.  My guess is that the lens would feel pretty
> > good
> > on a K10D with battery grip.  About as big and heavy as I would
> > want to
> > put on my Ds on a tripod.  It would probably be better on a bean-bag
> > support.
> >
> > Conclusion:  this lens fills a gap between the 200mm F5.6 low-cost
> > zooms
> > and "professional grade" F2.8 lenses.  I really really really wish
> > that
> > Pentax would release an autofocus version of this lens!  I picked mine
> > up on eBay in near-new condition with hard case for around $120.
> >
> > --Mark
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Re: quick report: A 70-210 F4 on *ist-Ds

2007-01-13 Thread Boris Liberman
Paul,

Paul Stenquist wrote:
> Pentax now offers the DA 40-200 4/5.6. An  excellent lens for the  
> money, although the build quality is so-so. The next lens you'll see  
> that meets your needs is the DA*. I believe it's a 60-210, f4. If you  
> require full frame, there are no lenses on the chart.
> Paul

May I humbly point out that the lens is actually DA 50-200.

Thanks.

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Re: quick report: A 70-210 F4 on *ist-Ds

2007-01-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
Pentax now offers the DA 40-200 4/5.6. An  excellent lens for the  
money, although the build quality is so-so. The next lens you'll see  
that meets your needs is the DA*. I believe it's a 60-210, f4. If you  
require full frame, there are no lenses on the chart.
Paul
On Jan 14, 2007, at 12:19 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:

> Have you tried a basic L bracket grip with the combo? I have used  
> these
> for
> years with long/heavy lenses and they certainly help.
> jco
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On  
> Behalf Of
> Mark Erickson
> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 11:43 PM
> To: PDML
> Subject: quick report: A 70-210 F4 on *ist-Ds
>
>
> I sold my FA* 80-200 F2.8 for way too much money last spring and ended
> up with a hole in my lens lineup.  To fill it, I picked up an SMC-A
> 70-210 F4 zoom on eBay recently.  Here's my quick report on using it
> with my *ist-Ds and pixel-peeping the results.  I got this lens  
> based on
> advice from Bruce Dayton and others on the list
>
> Image quality: Quite sharp wide open at both ends (70 and 210).  Not a
> lot sharper stopped down to F11, but a bit higher contrast when  
> stopped
> down. The built in hood and/or SMC coating seems to do a good job.
>
> Handling: Longer than I expected.  Feels good on an MZ-S with battery
> grip, but completely overpowers the *ist-Ds.  The small grip of the Ds
> doesn't have enough leverage to handle the lens, so my right hand gets
> tired pretty fast even when I'm using my left to support the lens.   
> I'll
> have to try different methods of holding the lens and camera to find a
> comfortable solution.  My guess is that the lens would feel pretty  
> good
> on a K10D with battery grip.  About as big and heavy as I would  
> want to
> put on my Ds on a tripod.  It would probably be better on a bean-bag
> support.
>
> Conclusion:  this lens fills a gap between the 200mm F5.6 low-cost  
> zooms
> and "professional grade" F2.8 lenses.  I really really really wish  
> that
> Pentax would release an autofocus version of this lens!  I picked mine
> up on eBay in near-new condition with hard case for around $120.
>
> --Mark
>
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RE: quick report: A 70-210 F4 on *ist-Ds

2007-01-13 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Have you tried a basic L bracket grip with the combo? I have used these
for
years with long/heavy lenses and they certainly help.
jco

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Mark Erickson
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 11:43 PM
To: PDML
Subject: quick report: A 70-210 F4 on *ist-Ds


I sold my FA* 80-200 F2.8 for way too much money last spring and ended
up with a hole in my lens lineup.  To fill it, I picked up an SMC-A
70-210 F4 zoom on eBay recently.  Here's my quick report on using it
with my *ist-Ds and pixel-peeping the results.  I got this lens based on
advice from Bruce Dayton and others on the list

Image quality: Quite sharp wide open at both ends (70 and 210).  Not a
lot sharper stopped down to F11, but a bit higher contrast when stopped
down. The built in hood and/or SMC coating seems to do a good job.

Handling: Longer than I expected.  Feels good on an MZ-S with battery
grip, but completely overpowers the *ist-Ds.  The small grip of the Ds
doesn't have enough leverage to handle the lens, so my right hand gets
tired pretty fast even when I'm using my left to support the lens.  I'll
have to try different methods of holding the lens and camera to find a
comfortable solution.  My guess is that the lens would feel pretty good
on a K10D with battery grip.  About as big and heavy as I would want to
put on my Ds on a tripod.  It would probably be better on a bean-bag
support.

Conclusion:  this lens fills a gap between the 200mm F5.6 low-cost zooms
and "professional grade" F2.8 lenses.  I really really really wish that
Pentax would release an autofocus version of this lens!  I picked mine
up on eBay in near-new condition with hard case for around $120.

--Mark


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quick report: A 70-210 F4 on *ist-Ds

2007-01-13 Thread Mark Erickson
I sold my FA* 80-200 F2.8 for way too much money last spring and ended up
with a hole in my lens lineup.  To fill it, I picked up an SMC-A 70-210 F4
zoom on eBay recently.  Here's my quick report on using it with my *ist-Ds
and pixel-peeping the results.  I got this lens based on advice from Bruce
Dayton and others on the list

Image quality: Quite sharp wide open at both ends (70 and 210).  Not a lot
sharper stopped down to F11, but a bit higher contrast when stopped down.
The built in hood and/or SMC coating seems to do a good job.

Handling: Longer than I expected.  Feels good on an MZ-S with battery grip,
but completely overpowers the *ist-Ds.  The small grip of the Ds doesn't
have enough leverage to handle the lens, so my right hand gets tired pretty
fast even when I'm using my left to support the lens.  I'll have to try
different methods of holding the lens and camera to find a comfortable
solution.  My guess is that the lens would feel pretty good on a K10D with
battery grip.  About as big and heavy as I would want to put on my Ds on a
tripod.  It would probably be better on a bean-bag support.

Conclusion:  this lens fills a gap between the 200mm F5.6 low-cost zooms and
"professional grade" F2.8 lenses.  I really really really wish that Pentax
would release an autofocus version of this lens!  I picked mine up on eBay
in near-new condition with hard case for around $120.

--Mark


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Re: SMC-A 70-210 F4 on Pentax DSLRs?

2007-01-01 Thread John Coyle
In a word - excellent.  Sharp, easy to focus, bright enough in the 
viewfinder: some might find it a little front-heavy.  Comments based on 
using it on the *istD.

HTH

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
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To: "PDML" 
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 3:11 PM
Subject: SMC-A 70-210 F4 on Pentax DSLRs?


> Anyone have any comments on how well the SMC-A 70-210mm F4 zoom performs 
> on
> Pentax DSLRs?
>
> Thanks,
>
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SMC-A 70-210 F4 on Pentax DSLRs?

2006-12-30 Thread Mark Erickson
Anyone have any comments on how well the SMC-A 70-210mm F4 zoom performs on
Pentax DSLRs?

Thanks,

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Re: SMC-A 70-210 F4 on Pentax DSLRs?

2006-12-30 Thread Adam Maas
Mark Erickson wrote:
> Anyone have any comments on how well the SMC-A 70-210mm F4 zoom performs on
> Pentax DSLRs?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark
> 
> 

Works like a charm on my K100D. While it's not a focal length I often 
use (I'm a wide/normal guy) it's a superb lens on digital.

-Adam

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Re: Pentax A 70-210 f4

2004-07-07 Thread Fred
> just a quick comparison with the FA 85/1.4 (at 85mm, of
> course...). The FA* lens performed a little better, but not that
> much.

...which is to be expected, of course, when comparing a zoom with an
F* prime...  (The above quote is a strong compliment for the A
70-210/4.)

My overall favorite, of the few 80-200 and 70-210 Pentax zooms I
have used, is in fact the A 70-210/4.  (And, I have a LN- copy of
the sometimes-touted F 70-201/4-5.6, if anyone's interested...)

My impression of the M 80-200/4.5 is that it is also a really good
zoom, but it is not ~better~ than the A 70-210/4, and it lacks the
(sometimes useful) A electrical contacts and the wider zoom range
(70-210, at 3:1, is distinctly wider than 80-210, at 2.5:1).

I did not find the F 70-201/4-5.6 to be better than the A 70-210/4,
and its variable (and mostly smaller, except at 70mm) aperture does
not fit my shooting style.  Of course, AF is important to some...

Fred




Re: Pentax A 70-210 f4

2004-07-07 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
Charles Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asked:
> Can any one advise how this lens operates on an ist D.  Are
there any better
> options.

Hello Charles,

I've tested it on my *ist D but I did no side by side comparison
with any other zoom lens, just a quick comparison with the FA
85/1.4 (at 85mm, of course...). The FA* lens performed a little
better, but not that much. If you are looking at a affordable,
non AF lens with constant aperture in this zooming range I guess
it may be the right choice.
I do also own the M 80-200/4.5, a really good performer, at
least on film (it is smaller - not much, but enough - and
lighter). I didn't try it on the *ist D, though, so cannot
comment.

Ciao,

Gianfranco

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SMC A 70-210 f4 tip

2001-06-18 Thread Jim Brooks

Hi there
Don't know if this is a common problem or a well-known solution but here
goes:

My A70~210 f4 was getting loose on the zoom / focus ring. Although the
mechanism itself was nice and tight, the ring wobbled.

After a little investigation I found that the ring is held to the lens
mechanism by a metal ring about 3mm wide, fastened with four small
(hobby-screwdriver size) Philips screws. This ring resides beneath the grip
rubber at the camera end of the zoom / focus ring. There is no need to
remove the rubber grip, simply peel back a few mm at this end. Tighten the
screws (maybe add a smidgen of thread locker) and the lens is as good as
new.

Apologies if this is common knowledge but it saved me a trip to the repairer
so it may help someone out there!

Regards
Jim Brooks



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"A" 70-210 f4

2001-05-07 Thread Gary L. Murphy

Noticed that a few were talking about this lens. I managed to snatch one up last night 
off eBay, from someone 
I've dealt with before, for a total of, $65.00 including shipping!

Can't wait to get it.





Later,
Gary


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