OT: book recommendation
I have just been enlisted in a project to write a book documenting the last 40 years of work of the organization for which I used to work. So I dug into the back corner of my storage locker and retrieved five boxes of personal books, files, reports, etc. that I had packed up on my retirement 3.5 years ago. One of the items I found I thought might be apropos for this group given this months PUG theme. The Collapse of Chaos: Discovering Simplicity in a Complex World by Jack Cohen and Ian Stewart, Penguin Books, 1995. I recall that this was a good read, thought provoking. An exploration of how we humans clarify and simplify the complex world. And the dangers of a reductionist approach. Now that it has surfaced, it is on the top of my stack to read again. (BTW - the book had no relationship to my work. I had loaned it to someone else in the office, he returned it as I was packing up.) stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Great Life Photographers--a book recommendation
paul stenquist wrote: I'm going to have to get that one. My dad retouched a lot of the Life photos that were published between 1946 and 1966. Man, he must have been using a *really* early beta version of Photoshop! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Great Life Photographers--a book recommendation
On Jul 19, 2010, at 8:48 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: paul stenquist wrote: I'm going to have to get that one. My dad retouched a lot of the Life photos that were published between 1946 and 1966. Man, he must have been using a *really* early beta version of Photoshop! Acid and miniature tools on copper plates. His hands were permanently discolored. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Great Life Photographers--a book recommendation
On 2010-07-18 22:29 , Christine Aguila wrote: If you're a serious book person, always best to build your own or have them built. i use elfa standards and brackets, then lay narrow hollow core doors (such as from closet accordion doors) across them; this makes a flexible, easy to mount, amazingly strong system; the doors i find used from deconstruction outlets and the like -- usually 12-18 wide, and surprisingly strong (can hold record albums across 2.5 foot gap) and much lighter than the crummy particle board shelves that many shelving systems use -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Great Life Photographers--a book recommendation
Just start book piles, Bob. You can use them as end tables :-). That's what we do. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 4:11 PM Subject: RE: The Great Life Photographers--a book recommendation I have indeed, and I've heard it described by an eye witness. Nevertheless, the laws of physics prevent me from getting any more books in the house... Don't imply to Christine that there is such a thing as too many books. Books are like lenses - you can never have too many. Haven't you seen any of the shots of the interior of their home? stan On Jul 17, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Bob W wrote: I'll keep an eye open for that, but I can't buy any more books until I've bought a bigger house to put them in... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Great Life Photographers--a book recommendation
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Having spent the last week reading page by page this lovely 605 page book published by Thames Hudson (paperback 2009), I'd like to recommend it to PDML folks. Organized in alpha order, included is a brief biographical sketch of 88 photographers who were on Life's staff and, of course, photos made by the photographer. So many of the photographers have passed away, which would follow given Life's run from 1936-1972. The brief sketches do a great job of revealing the dedication and personality of the photographers, especially in their coverage of World War II. I'd like to share this brief biography of George Strock (1911-1977): . . . Stroke joined LIFE and went off to the war in the Pacific. Initially he cabled editors that he saw so little action he was ready to quit and open a peanut stand. Other photographers did leave, but Strock stayed on for the Battle of Buna, which cost more than 3,000 Allied lives. On that malarial New Guinea island, Strock scrambled along side the soldiers. . . . At the time, censors banned showing any dead American soldiers, but LIFE raised the point with the government, and FDR himself decided the public was growing complacent and should see some of the reality; thus 'Three Dead Americans' ran in LIFE. I find that last bit about FDR very interesting. Cheers, Christine I didn't enjoy high school much - not the academic side of things anyway. Once during a spare I was in the library and discovered that we had bound volumes of every Life mag from Margaret Bourke-White's first cover in 1936 (I still remember it's Fort Peck Dam) to about the late fifties or early sixties. I spent many spares after that poring over those issues. Damned if I didn't learn more history from those than I did in 5 years of high school history classes. And of course, there were the photographs! I was already interested in photography, but leafing through those marvelous pages crystallized my hobby into something of an obsession. I think I'd really enjoy this book, Christine. Thanks for the recommendation. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Great Life Photographers--a book recommendation
I'm going to have to get that one. My dad retouched a lot of the Life photos that were published between 1946 and 1966. Paul On Jul 18, 2010, at 7:21 AM, frank theriault wrote: On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Having spent the last week reading page by page this lovely 605 page book published by Thames Hudson (paperback 2009), I'd like to recommend it to PDML folks. Organized in alpha order, included is a brief biographical sketch of 88 photographers who were on Life's staff and, of course, photos made by the photographer. So many of the photographers have passed away, which would follow given Life's run from 1936-1972. The brief sketches do a great job of revealing the dedication and personality of the photographers, especially in their coverage of World War II. I'd like to share this brief biography of George Strock (1911-1977): . . . Stroke joined LIFE and went off to the war in the Pacific. Initially he cabled editors that he saw so little action he was ready to quit and open a peanut stand. Other photographers did leave, but Strock stayed on for the Battle of Buna, which cost more than 3,000 Allied lives. On that malarial New Guinea island, Strock scrambled along side the soldiers. . . . At the time, censors banned showing any dead American soldiers, but LIFE raised the point with the government, and FDR himself decided the public was growing complacent and should see some of the reality; thus 'Three Dead Americans' ran in LIFE. I find that last bit about FDR very interesting. Cheers, Christine I didn't enjoy high school much - not the academic side of things anyway. Once during a spare I was in the library and discovered that we had bound volumes of every Life mag from Margaret Bourke-White's first cover in 1936 (I still remember it's Fort Peck Dam) to about the late fifties or early sixties. I spent many spares after that poring over those issues. Damned if I didn't learn more history from those than I did in 5 years of high school history classes. And of course, there were the photographs! I was already interested in photography, but leafing through those marvelous pages crystallized my hobby into something of an obsession. I think I'd really enjoy this book, Christine. Thanks for the recommendation. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Great Life Photographers--a book recommendation
On 2010-07-17 17:17 , John Sessoms wrote: From: Stan Halpin Don't imply to Christine that there is such a thing as too many books. There can, however, be more books than the budget will stretch to accommodate. i handle that by shopping used, sometimes extreme used (bins at Goodwill) -- in fact that is the organizing statement for my photo book collection; it's turned up books of photos by Stieglitz, Steichen, Leibowitz, von Gloeden, and many interesting collections, often for practically nothing; the serendipity of it is very stimulating (not just in a hunter-gatherer kind of way) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Great Life Photographers--a book recommendation
- Original Message - From: Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 7:29 PM Subject: Re: The Great Life Photographers--a book recommendation On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 7:17 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Stan Halpin Don't imply to Christine that there is such a thing as too many books. There can, however, be more books than the budget will stretch to accommodate. No such thing. Now shelving on the other hand If you're a serious book person, always best to build your own or have them built. Store bought might not hold up too long, if you double pack the shelves. 11 of the book shelves we have are built in two pieces that stack. This makes it easy for moving, and can give you more versatility, if, for some reason, you want to go short on the case for a while--that's assuming you've gotten rid of the books that were stored in the top section of the book case. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Great Life Photographers--a book recommendation
- Original Message - From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 6:27 AM Subject: Re: The Great Life Photographers--a book recommendation I'm going to have to get that one. My dad retouched a lot of the Life photos that were published between 1946 and 1966. Cool! In the introduction there's a little bit about the print makers who worked for life. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
The Great Life Photographers--a book recommendation
Having spent the last week reading page by page this lovely 605 page book published by Thames Hudson (paperback 2009), I'd like to recommend it to PDML folks. Organized in alpha order, included is a brief biographical sketch of 88 photographers who were on Life's staff and, of course, photos made by the photographer. So many of the photographers have passed away, which would follow given Life's run from 1936-1972. The brief sketches do a great job of revealing the dedication and personality of the photographers, especially in their coverage of World War II. I'd like to share this brief biography of George Strock (1911-1977): . . . Stroke joined LIFE and went off to the war in the Pacific. Initially he cabled editors that he saw so little action he was ready to quit and open a peanut stand. Other photographers did leave, but Strock stayed on for the Battle of Buna, which cost more than 3,000 Allied lives. On that malarial New Guinea island, Strock scrambled along side the soldiers. . . . At the time, censors banned showing any dead American soldiers, but LIFE raised the point with the government, and FDR himself decided the public was growing complacent and should see some of the reality; thus 'Three Dead Americans' ran in LIFE. I find that last bit about FDR very interesting. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: The Great Life Photographers--a book recommendation
I'll keep an eye open for that, but I can't buy any more books until I've bought a bigger house to put them in... Bob -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Christine Aguila Sent: 17 July 2010 19:42 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: The Great Life Photographers--a book recommendation Having spent the last week reading page by page this lovely 605 page book published by Thames Hudson (paperback 2009), I'd like to recommend it to PDML folks. Organized in alpha order, included is a brief biographical sketch of 88 photographers who were on Life's staff and, of course, photos made by the photographer. So many of the photographers have passed away, which would follow given Life's run from 1936-1972. The brief sketches do a great job of revealing the dedication and personality of the photographers, especially in their coverage of World War II. I'd like to share this brief biography of George Strock (1911-1977): . . . Stroke joined LIFE and went off to the war in the Pacific. Initially he cabled editors that he saw so little action he was ready to quit and open a peanut stand. Other photographers did leave, but Strock stayed on for the Battle of Buna, which cost more than 3,000 Allied lives. On that malarial New Guinea island, Strock scrambled along side the soldiers. . . . At the time, censors banned showing any dead American soldiers, but LIFE raised the point with the government, and FDR himself decided the public was growing complacent and should see some of the reality; thus 'Three Dead Americans' ran in LIFE. I find that last bit about FDR very interesting. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Great Life Photographers--a book recommendation
Don't imply to Christine that there is such a thing as too many books. Books are like lenses - you can never have too many. Haven't you seen any of the shots of the interior of their home? stan On Jul 17, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Bob W wrote: I'll keep an eye open for that, but I can't buy any more books until I've bought a bigger house to put them in... Bob -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Christine Aguila Sent: 17 July 2010 19:42 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: The Great Life Photographers--a book recommendation Having spent the last week reading page by page this lovely 605 page book published by Thames Hudson (paperback 2009), I'd like to recommend it to PDML folks. Organized in alpha order, included is a brief biographical sketch of 88 photographers who were on Life's staff and, of course, photos made by the photographer. So many of the photographers have passed away, which would follow given Life's run from 1936-1972. The brief sketches do a great job of revealing the dedication and personality of the photographers, especially in their coverage of World War II. I'd like to share this brief biography of George Strock (1911-1977): . . . Stroke joined LIFE and went off to the war in the Pacific. Initially he cabled editors that he saw so little action he was ready to quit and open a peanut stand. Other photographers did leave, but Strock stayed on for the Battle of Buna, which cost more than 3,000 Allied lives. On that malarial New Guinea island, Strock scrambled along side the soldiers. . . . At the time, censors banned showing any dead American soldiers, but LIFE raised the point with the government, and FDR himself decided the public was growing complacent and should see some of the reality; thus 'Three Dead Americans' ran in LIFE. I find that last bit about FDR very interesting. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: The Great Life Photographers--a book recommendation
I have indeed, and I've heard it described by an eye witness. Nevertheless, the laws of physics prevent me from getting any more books in the house... Don't imply to Christine that there is such a thing as too many books. Books are like lenses - you can never have too many. Haven't you seen any of the shots of the interior of their home? stan On Jul 17, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Bob W wrote: I'll keep an eye open for that, but I can't buy any more books until I've bought a bigger house to put them in... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Great Life Photographers--a book recommendation
From: Stan Halpin Don't imply to Christine that there is such a thing as too many books. There can, however, be more books than the budget will stretch to accommodate. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Great Life Photographers--a book recommendation
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 7:17 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Stan Halpin Don't imply to Christine that there is such a thing as too many books. There can, however, be more books than the budget will stretch to accommodate. No such thing. Now shelving on the other hand -Adam Who has about twice the books his shelving can accomodate. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Christmas book recommendation
Hours of fun for all the family: http://tinyurl.com/yg28o5 http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1410207455/ref=wl_it_dp/2 02-8430541-3776616?ie=UTF8coliid=I3Q90ASGK5ZPYUcol id=WC7E8MODN8EJ Only 1 left in stock--order soon (more on the way). -- Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Christmas book recommendation
The English are truly masochists. Bob W wrote: Hours of fun for all the family: http://tinyurl.com/yg28o5 http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1410207455/ref=wl_it_dp/2 02-8430541-3776616?ie=UTF8coliid=I3Q90ASGK5ZPYUcol id=WC7E8MODN8EJ Only 1 left in stock--order soon (more on the way). -- Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Christmas book recommendation
It's only 52 pages, but it feels like 520. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: 04 December 2006 20:46 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Christmas book recommendation The English are truly masochists. Bob W wrote: Hours of fun for all the family: http://tinyurl.com/yg28o5 http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1410207455/ref=wl_it_dp/2 02-8430541-3776616?ie=UTF8coliid=I3Q90ASGK5ZPYUcol id=WC7E8MODN8EJ Only 1 left in stock--order soon (more on the way). -- Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A Book Recommendation
What would the other two be? Is OBAP one of them? Bob Walkden wrote: Hi, I can entirely endorse Shel's recommendation. I've had the 3rd edition for a few years; there is now a 4th edition, at least. It would certainly be in my top 3 'how to' photography books. I just reacquainted myself with Ken Kobré's book, Photojournalism: The Professionals' Approach and can highly recommend it for most any style of photography. There are great tips for portraiture, sports photography, photo essays, editing, and even a short course on ethics and when you can and cannot take a picture. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0240802403/qid=1020924850/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/102-2259736-8793707 -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: A Book Recommendation
Hi, What would the other two be? Is OBAP one of them? yes it is. I'm not sure about the 3rd though. A few years ago when I started getting back into photography in a big way I found Nevada Weir's Adventure Travel Photography very helpful, although it's not in the same league as OBAP or Kobre. Photojournalist with Mary Ellen Mark and Annie Leibovitz, and the Elliott Erwitt one in the 'Masters of Contemporary Photography' series were very helpful to me back in the late 70s/early 80s. Visual Anthropology by John Malcolm Collier is very good, but probably a bit too anthropological for most photographers. Truth needs no ally by Howard Chapnick, and Witness of our time by Ken Light are also outstanding. Most of these are less technical than Kobre's book, but the essence of them all is that working photographers who do the kind of thing that I aspire to are talking about their methods and techniques, and the problems they encounter in the field. It's probably summed up by Hurn in OBAP who says one of the most important pieces of photographic equipment is a good pair of shoes, an obversation I entirely endorse. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Saturday, May 11, 2002, 4:26:52 AM, you wrote: What would the other two be? Is OBAP one of them? Bob Walkden wrote: Hi, I can entirely endorse Shel's recommendation. I've had the 3rd edition for a few years; there is now a 4th edition, at least. It would certainly be in my top 3 'how to' photography books. I just reacquainted myself with Ken Kobré's book, Photojournalism: The Professionals' Approach and can highly recommend it for most any style of photography. There are great tips for portraiture, sports photography, photo essays, editing, and even a short course on ethics and when you can and cannot take a picture. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0240802403/qid=1020924850/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/102-2259736-8793707 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
