Re: Adobe Brouhaha
Like just about everything else in business "licensing", it sounds like it's there for a benign purpose, but some evil asshole could find a way to abuse it with moderate effort. On 6/6/2024 1:59 PM, Larry Colen wrote: There seems to be a lot of sound and fury going around the net about this section of Adobe licensing: 4.2 Licenses to Your Content. Solely for the purposes of operating or improving the Services and Software, you grant us a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free sublicensable, license, to use, reproduce, publicly display, distribute, modify, create derivative works based on, publicly perform, and translate the Content. For example, we may sublicense our right to the Content to our service providers or to other users to allow the Services and Software to operate as intended, such as enabling you to share photos with others. Separately, section 4.6 (Feedback) below covers any Feedback that you provide to us. 4.3 Ownership. As between you and Adobe, you (as a Business User or a Personal User, as applicable) retain all rights and ownership of your Content (or where applicable, you must ensure that you or the Business (as applicable) have a valid license to the Content). We do not claim any ownership rights to your Content. I read 4.2 as giving Adobe permission to share your content with other services so that you can, for example, post photos you keep on their servers to other sites like facebook. Thoughts? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from ret13est -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vivere in aeternum aut mori conatur -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe Brouhaha
Listen what Tony N. has to say about it. https://youtu.be/rEbgh-q7RCc?si=KGnWOlpwq2uvDpjN Henk Op 2024-06-06 om 19:59 schreef Larry Colen: Thoughts? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from ret13est -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe Brouhaha
Perhaps also legal cover for their AI database. It doesn't bother me as I never store my pictures on Adobe cloud. For years I have avoided their subscription model. However, with their recent progress in software I'm pleased now to have their latest versions of LR and FP for 10 euro/month . Henk Op 2024-06-06 om 19:59 schreef Larry Colen: There seems to be a lot of sound and fury going around the net about this section of Adobe licensing: 4.2 Licenses to Your Content. Solely for the purposes of operating or improving the Services and Software, you grant us a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free sublicensable, license, to use, reproduce, publicly display, distribute, modify, create derivative works based on, publicly perform, and translate the Content. For example, we may sublicense our right to the Content to our service providers or to other users to allow the Services and Software to operate as intended, such as enabling you to share photos with others. Separately, section 4.6 (Feedback) below covers any Feedback that you provide to us. 4.3 Ownership. As between you and Adobe, you (as a Business User or a Personal User, as applicable) retain all rights and ownership of your Content (or where applicable, you must ensure that you or the Business (as applicable) have a valid license to the Content). We do not claim any ownership rights to your Content. I read 4.2 as giving Adobe permission to share your content with other services so that you can, for example, post photos you keep on their servers to other sites like facebook. Thoughts? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from ret13est -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe Brouhaha
Am 06.06.24 um 23:13 schrieb l...@red4est.com: Thoughts? Or adobe? Thoughts about Adobe. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog :http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio :http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Fotos :https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012 -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe Brouhaha
On June 6, 2024 1:39:28 PM PDT, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: >Am 06.06.24 um 19:59 schrieb Larry Colen: >> Thoughts? > >Thank Heavens I have nothing to do with them anymore. Thoughts? Or adobe? > >Ralf > -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe Brouhaha
Am 06.06.24 um 19:59 schrieb Larry Colen: Thoughts? Thank Heavens I have nothing to do with them anymore. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog :http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio :http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Fotos :https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012 -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe Brouhaha
These squabbles don’t bother me. PhotoShop is my lifeblood, and it has been for 25 years. I use the cloud version for about ten bucks a month, and I don’t store anything on Adobe servers. I use my own storage and Dropbox. What’s more, PhotoShop gets better every year. No complaints. Paul > On Jun 6, 2024, at 1:59 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > There seems to be a lot of sound and fury going around the net about this > section of Adobe licensing: > 4.2 Licenses to Your Content. Solely for the purposes of operating or > improving the Services and Software, you grant us a non-exclusive, worldwide, > royalty-free sublicensable, license, to use, reproduce, publicly display, > distribute, modify, create derivative works based on, publicly perform, and > translate the Content. For example, we may sublicense our right to the > Content to our service providers or to other users to allow the Services and > Software to operate as intended, such as enabling you to share photos with > others. Separately, section 4.6 (Feedback) below covers any Feedback that you > provide to us. > > 4.3 Ownership. As between you and Adobe, you (as a Business User or a > Personal User, as applicable) retain all rights and ownership of your Content > (or where applicable, you must ensure that you or the Business (as > applicable) have a valid license to the Content). We do not claim any > ownership rights to your Content. > > > I read 4.2 as giving Adobe permission to share your content with other > services so that you can, for example, post photos you keep on their servers > to other sites like facebook. > > Thoughts? > > -- > Larry Colen > l...@red4est.com sent from ret13est > > > > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe Brouhaha
It calls to mind an old gem from the PDML quotations list (I forget what year): "Any harm I can do Adobe will be done with a song in my heart" - Mike Wilson Jun 6, 2024 1:59:19 PM Larry Colen : > There seems to be a lot of sound and fury going around the net about this > section of Adobe licensing: > 4.2 Licenses to Your Content. Solely for the purposes of operating or > improving the Services and Software, you grant us a non-exclusive, worldwide, > royalty-free sublicensable, license, to use, reproduce, publicly display, > distribute, modify, create derivative works based on, publicly perform, and > translate the Content. For example, we may sublicense our right to the > Content to our service providers or to other users to allow the Services and > Software to operate as intended, such as enabling you to share photos with > others. Separately, section 4.6 (Feedback) below covers any Feedback that you > provide to us. > > 4.3 Ownership. As between you and Adobe, you (as a Business User or a > Personal User, as applicable) retain all rights and ownership of your Content > (or where applicable, you must ensure that you or the Business (as > applicable) have a valid license to the Content). We do not claim any > ownership rights to your Content. > > > I read 4.2 as giving Adobe permission to share your content with other > services so that you can, for example, post photos you keep on their servers > to other sites like facebook. > > Thoughts? > > -- > Larry Colen > l...@red4est.com sent from ret13est > > > > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Adobe Brouhaha
There seems to be a lot of sound and fury going around the net about this section of Adobe licensing: 4.2 Licenses to Your Content. Solely for the purposes of operating or improving the Services and Software, you grant us a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free sublicensable, license, to use, reproduce, publicly display, distribute, modify, create derivative works based on, publicly perform, and translate the Content. For example, we may sublicense our right to the Content to our service providers or to other users to allow the Services and Software to operate as intended, such as enabling you to share photos with others. Separately, section 4.6 (Feedback) below covers any Feedback that you provide to us. 4.3 Ownership. As between you and Adobe, you (as a Business User or a Personal User, as applicable) retain all rights and ownership of your Content (or where applicable, you must ensure that you or the Business (as applicable) have a valid license to the Content). We do not claim any ownership rights to your Content. I read 4.2 as giving Adobe permission to share your content with other services so that you can, for example, post photos you keep on their servers to other sites like facebook. Thoughts? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from ret13est -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
