RE: Re[2]: Approaching Animals, was: Allergy Shots
So, Bob, We take it you' re trauma ward physician that specializes in gorilla attacks and you're running a little low on business at the moment? Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Walkden Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2001 1:59 PM To: Cotty Subject: Re[2]: Approaching Animals, was: Allergy Shots Hi, if it's a gorilla, especially a big one with a grey hairy back, stand as tall as you can, stare it right in the eye and beat your chest as loudly as you can. Calms them down no end! --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sunday, October 28, 2001, 7:43:05 PM, you wrote: >> I found, however, that if I did not make eye contact >>with an animal and if I acted as if I was going to walk by them, > If it's a cat, squint repeatedly, and look away a few times. This makes > them feel less threatened :-) > P, - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: Approaching Animals, was: Allergy Shots
And just how fast do you have to run to out run a silver-back gorilla? Just a little bit faster than the guy beside you. On Sunday 28 October 2001 13:58, you wrote: > Hi, > > if it's a gorilla, especially a big one with a grey hairy back, stand > as tall as you can, stare it right in the eye and beat your chest as > loudly as you can. Calms them down no end! > > --- > > Bob -- Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #24980801 Powered by Linux ++ Mailed by Kmail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: Approaching Animals, was: Allergy Shots
Hi, if it's a gorilla, especially a big one with a grey hairy back, stand as tall as you can, stare it right in the eye and beat your chest as loudly as you can. Calms them down no end! --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sunday, October 28, 2001, 7:43:05 PM, you wrote: >> I found, however, that if I did not make eye contact >>with an animal and if I acted as if I was going to walk by them, > If it's a cat, squint repeatedly, and look away a few times. This makes > them feel less threatened :-) > P, - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Approaching Animals, was: Allergy Shots
> I found, however, that if I did not make eye contact >with an animal and if I acted as if I was going to walk by them, If it's a cat, squint repeatedly, and look away a few times. This makes them feel less threatened :-) P, Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Approaching Animals, was: Allergy Shots
Growing up on a farm, I was around all kinds of animals for my first 20 years. After a lot of trial and error, I learned two things. All animals, including humans, create a bubble of comfort around themselves. If you invade that bubble, an animal will resort to either flight or fight. I found, however, that if I did not make eye contact with an animal and if I acted as if I was going to walk by them, I could get inside that bubble of comfort and stay there as long as I made no threatening motion. As a livestock photographer, those lessons have served me well. I used to do livestock advertising and catalog work for many years and am going back into that line of photography when I retire. Many of the cattle I worked with ranged from bulls that had spent most of their life in a show ring to some real high-headed individuals with limited human contact that needed little provocation. The same principles applied...no eye contact (unless behind a camera) and no challenging motion directly toward an animal. It works with all animals, wild, domestic or human. On Sunday 28 October 2001 08:30, you wrote: > About how to talk to critters... > > One thing you might want to try with the horses > is to sort of lean in towards their faces. I heard once > that they greet each other with their muzzles, so the last > couple of times I was at a stable, I kept my hands behind > my back and stuck my face at them. If you do that, they > might nuzzle your face, or at least snort at it. :) > > For dogs and cats, I usually find it's enough to crouch > down, hold your hand out to them and wait. If they're curious, > they'll come over to check you out. > > Hope this helps, > Amita -- Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #24980801 Powered by Linux ++ Mailed by Kmail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Allergy Shots
Glenn, I enjoyed hearing about your visit to the stable this weekend. I have to say I'm jealous. :) Sounds like you had a great time! Please post that pic of the horse with the pictures shaved into his rump when you get the film back. About how to talk to critters... One thing you might want to try with the horses is to sort of lean in towards their faces. I heard once that they greet each other with their muzzles, so the last couple of times I was at a stable, I kept my hands behind my back and stuck my face at them. If you do that, they might nuzzle your face, or at least snort at it. :) For dogs and cats, I usually find it's enough to crouch down, hold your hand out to them and wait. If they're curious, they'll come over to check you out. Hope this helps, Amita - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Allergy Shots
Another rambling "how my day went" missive...
Yesterday I went to shoot some cute, huge, walking allergens.
Fortunately the combination of antihistamines and inhalers I
used warded off an athsma attack, but I did get a nasty headache
which may or may not have been related. (The preventative
inhalers weren't quite enough, and I did wind up using my
Albuterol inhaler twice, but I never let it get Really bad.) I
spent as little time as possible actually in the stable, and
shot into the arena from the outdoor entrance, and burned more
film watching horses and riders warming up outside where there
was more light for me to use anyhow. Not sure how well I did,
but I came away with a definite sense that I'm a less-patient
(and therefore probably not as good) photographer when my
fingers are freezing and I'm thinking about my breathing. It
was reasonably late-autumn chilly here yesterday, but rather
windy, and of course I was a good ways away from the city, and
stupid me, I forgot to bring my gloves. (I could have worn
gloves -- the KX and Spotmatic have controls I can operate in
gloves, and I used the Super Program entirely in
aperture-priority mode.) I'm also not sure how steady I was
holding the camera during the coldest moments -- other than my
hands and face I was mostly dressed okay for the temperature,
but when a cloud covered the sun and a gust blew at the same
time, I found myself shivvering a bit.
(Not like two days before, which was a perfect late-spring day;
or the day before that, which was the ultimate comfortable
summer day, which we never get in summertime here.)
So I came away feeling like I'd not done as good a job as I
could have, as well as knowing that I still have a lot to learn
about horse photography (catching them with their legs in good
positions and such), but also feeling like I'd gathered a clue
or two. And the friend (hoping for more, but for now friend) I
specifically went to see, got a third-place ribbon. And it
looks like I'll get some help paying for developing (due to
folks wanting to see what I got), so I won't have to wait months
for my finances to catch up before I get to find out what worked
and what didn't.
I ought to be able to get away with more on this shoot than I
would at another time of year -- it was "costume day" at the
stable due to the proximity to Hallowe'en, so there was extra
cuteness to be captured. Riders in costumes. Horses in
costumes (including an adorable black, pointy hat). My friend
was in renaissance attire, and her horse was adorned with a
fancy headpiece and had his body and tail wrapped in ivy, which,
of course, he kept wanting to nibble on. (A mutual friend was
in medieval clothing, as was I, and the friend who drove me was
in a mix of renaissance and modern. We all acknowledged that
wearing such garb as a costume feels like "cheating" -- we wear
it often enough that it doesn't feel like a costume, and really
it's just something we pulled out of our closets. We got
admiring comments from others present, but we did so without a
lot of effort or planning. *shrug* I still haven't figured out
what I'm going to wear for Hallowe'en night itself.)
One woman had shaved(*) designs into her horse's rump -- a Jolly
Roger on one side and a jack o'lantern on the other -- and asked
me to make sure I got photos of those as she'd not brought a
camera. Hmm. A black-on-black design visible by texture and
depth, the easiest thing in the world to get a quick snap of,
right? I caught it in full sun (at a couple different angles)
with Portra 400VC and bracketed a little over -- I've got my
fingers crossed on that.
(*) More like "trimmed"? The horse's skin wasn't exposed, but
the hair was very short in the design.
I don't know how to talk to horses. Most of them just stared at
me as though they were expecting me to say or do something, so I
just spoke to them in English ("Oh, you're a pretty one, aren't
you?") and they continued to stare. Except for one or two who
I'm _certain_ were saying either "pet me!" or "treat please?",
and one who had to investigate my KX to find out whether it was
food. I'm passably fluent in Cat (uh, for a human anyhow), know
enough Dog to get by, and am rusty in Bird (well, the family
that includes parrots, budgies, cockateils, etc.) but can still
communicate with them ... but I'm completely lost trying to
communicate with horses so far. (Then again, from what I
understand from horse people, most horses understand a certain
amount of Human anyhow.) Fortunately there were all these riders
around, so it didn't matter as much, but basically I felt like
an alien. (Hmm. I'll have to ask my friend how much
horse-communication is done by touch -- I know that
rider-to-horse communication is entirely touch, but I don't know
how much is when both parties are standing on the ground. With
the species I do know how to talk to, it's mostly body-language
and gestures. I was afraid to touch any of the horses, because
if I'd do
