re: An appeal for Divergence and Simplicity from the Luminous Landscape conflated with Re: K-3 manual now available (PDF)

2013-10-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
There are good situations for when the larger sensor in a DSLR or 
TTL-electronic camera, as well as the availability of the range of lenses they 
can use, makes sense for video work. At least at the price point I can afford 
in video cameras … Even professional movie makers choose DSLRs and 
TTL-electronic cameras for some purposes to save on equipment costs. There are 
other times when a DSLR or small TTL-electronic enable shots that could not be 
done with a pro video camera due to size, weight, etc. 

My sum-up of the LuLa article: Just another old git who wants the good old 
days to come back. ;-)

I have plenty of simple cameras that address the basics, from the stone axe of 
my plain prism Nikon F up to and including my Leica M9. 

And I have a couple of very complex cameras. One of the most complex is my 
latest - the Olympus E-M1. It also has the best controls of any camera I've 
owned, and I can configure them to work *exactly* the way I want the camera to 
work, from fully manual with instant access to ISO, exposure time, aperture, 
and focus, to fully automated. 

I have no complaints about what manufacturers make. I applaud the diversity of 
design and ideas their products represent. I choose what I want to work with 
from that, and make what I choose do what I want it to. If it's too much 
trouble, I sell whatever it was and buy something else that does it more 
easily. 

To me, that's the only sane way to do things. Manufacturers don't make a 
product for 100 people, or even 1000. They never have, not for anything that 
costs under $10K anyway. You pick from what they make to suit your needs best, 
and adapt. 

A fresh pack of Impossible Color Protection film is in the SX-70 now. :-)

G


On Oct 28, 2013, at 7:30 AM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote:

 … I am still baffled by the whole video thing and haven't been able to think 
 of a single instance where I would want my DSLR to record video, much less 
 sound. I have owned and used video cameras in the past, and if I wanted to 
 shoot video again the last device I would consider for that purpose would be 
 a DSLR. First choice would be a video camera. ...


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Re: An appeal for Divergence and Simplicity from the Luminous Landscape conflated with Re: K-3 manual now available (PDF)

2013-10-28 Thread Stan Halpin
You and Paul both make good points about the value of video within a DSLR. 

So, I will stipulate that video does have value to some. Do I care if it is 
included on my own camera? Not really, it doesn't bother me as long as its 
presence doesn't impede my use of the camera for still images (e.g., by making 
stills-related buttons smaller and harder to get to in order to have more room 
for video-related buttons.)

I might  mutter about sharing in the amortization of video functions which I 
don't need, but I can also imagine that the engineering to facilitate video has 
given me better Liveview, larger buffers with faster card-write speeds, etc. 
So, end of the day, I don't really care, but I remain baffled that all of the 
manufacturers obviously see value in including video capacity. I was, and still 
am, baffled by the popularity of crossover vehicles. My limitation of course; 
80-90  years ago I might have been baffled by the proliferation of color films. 
 Just change for the sake of change; mutter, mutter. . .

In my ideal world, I would like to see video as an add-on option. If you 
want/need that function, pay $200-300 extra for the YT version of the body. But 
that ain't gonna happen since everybody is accustomed to seeing video as part 
of every camera's feature set. 

stan

On Oct 28, 2013, at 3:16 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 There are good situations for when the larger sensor in a DSLR or 
 TTL-electronic camera, as well as the availability of the range of lenses 
 they can use, makes sense for video work. At least at the price point I can 
 afford in video cameras … Even professional movie makers choose DSLRs and 
 TTL-electronic cameras for some purposes to save on equipment costs. There 
 are other times when a DSLR or small TTL-electronic enable shots that could 
 not be done with a pro video camera due to size, weight, etc. 
 
 My sum-up of the LuLa article: Just another old git who wants the good old 
 days to come back. ;-)
 
 I have plenty of simple cameras that address the basics, from the stone axe 
 of my plain prism Nikon F up to and including my Leica M9. 
 
 And I have a couple of very complex cameras. One of the most complex is my 
 latest - the Olympus E-M1. It also has the best controls of any camera I've 
 owned, and I can configure them to work *exactly* the way I want the camera 
 to work, from fully manual with instant access to ISO, exposure time, 
 aperture, and focus, to fully automated. 
 
 I have no complaints about what manufacturers make. I applaud the diversity 
 of design and ideas their products represent. I choose what I want to work 
 with from that, and make what I choose do what I want it to. If it's too much 
 trouble, I sell whatever it was and buy something else that does it more 
 easily. 
 
 To me, that's the only sane way to do things. Manufacturers don't make a 
 product for 100 people, or even 1000. They never have, not for anything that 
 costs under $10K anyway. You pick from what they make to suit your needs 
 best, and adapt. 
 
 A fresh pack of Impossible Color Protection film is in the SX-70 now. :-)
 
 G
 
 
 On Oct 28, 2013, at 7:30 AM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote:
 
 … I am still baffled by the whole video thing and haven't been able to think 
 of a single instance where I would want my DSLR to record video, much less 
 sound. I have owned and used video cameras in the past, and if I wanted to 
 shoot video again the last device I would consider for that purpose would be 
 a DSLR. First choice would be a video camera. ...
 
 
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