Re: Another color or black & white choice: Filter Question

2011-09-28 Thread Mark C

On 9/26/2011 1:19 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
This gives me an idea. What if I want to see what the picture would 
look like had I shot it through a red filter. How would I do that? 
Just drop the green and blue luminance? Twiddle with camera 
calibration sliders? Is there a better way? -- Larry Colen 
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The red channel alone would be similar to a B&W shot taken with a red 
filter. So just use that channel. Of course, you can layer it onto the 
image and blend to get a less intense red filter effect.


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Re: Another color or black & white choice: Filter Question

2011-09-26 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 26, 2011, at 8:59 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:

> On 9/26/11 1:46 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> 
>> On Sep 25, 2011, at 10:31 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:
>> 
>>> I'd consider what color is blocked and what is passed through the filter, 
>>> then work with the luminance to get the effect.  So, yes...a red filter 
>>> would block blue and some green.
>> 
>> yeah, but the luminance sliders seem to work on the "mixed" colors, rather 
>> than the primary signals from the sensor.
>> 
>> And, thanks Doug for pointing me at the presets.  I realize how foolish it 
>> is that I haven't even tried them out yet.
>> 
>> I think that led me to the treatment I wanted, interestingly using the blue 
>> filter instead of a red:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6183861523/in/set-72157627752114722/lightbox/
> 
> The blue filter seems to have done you well. You might think about losing the 
> smeary lower right hand corner, because it competes with the subject. 
> Cropping in would emphasize the leaf and clean up the comp a bit.

Another excellent suggestion. I turns it from a picture of a fern with leaves 
on it, to a leaf sitting on a fern.

Thank you.


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Re: Another color or black & white choice: Filter Question

2011-09-26 Thread Doug Brewer

On 9/26/11 1:46 AM, Larry Colen wrote:


On Sep 25, 2011, at 10:31 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:


I'd consider what color is blocked and what is passed through the filter, then 
work with the luminance to get the effect.  So, yes...a red filter would block 
blue and some green.


yeah, but the luminance sliders seem to work on the "mixed" colors, rather than 
the primary signals from the sensor.

And, thanks Doug for pointing me at the presets.  I realize how foolish it is 
that I haven't even tried them out yet.

I think that led me to the treatment I wanted, interestingly using the blue 
filter instead of a red:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6183861523/in/set-72157627752114722/lightbox/


The blue filter seems to have done you well. You might think about 
losing the smeary lower right hand corner, because it competes with the 
subject. Cropping in would emphasize the leaf and clean up the comp a bit.


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Re: Another color or black & white choice: Filter Question

2011-09-25 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 25, 2011, at 10:31 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:

> I'd consider what color is blocked and what is passed through the filter, 
> then work with the luminance to get the effect.  So, yes...a red filter would 
> block blue and some green.

yeah, but the luminance sliders seem to work on the "mixed" colors, rather than 
the primary signals from the sensor.  

And, thanks Doug for pointing me at the presets.  I realize how foolish it is 
that I haven't even tried them out yet.

I think that led me to the treatment I wanted, interestingly using the blue 
filter instead of a red:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6183861523/in/set-72157627752114722/lightbox/



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Re: Another color or black & white choice: Filter Question

2011-09-25 Thread Paul Sorenson
I'd consider what color is blocked and what is passed through the 
filter, then work with the luminance to get the effect.  So, yes...a red 
filter would block blue and some green.


-p

On 9/26/2011 12:19 AM, Larry Colen wrote:


On Sep 25, 2011, at 10:05 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:


They're both very nice.  You might try reducing the green luminance some to 
darken the ferns and make the tan leaves stand out more.  I think that will 
make a difference in both the b/w and color images.




This gives me an idea.  What if I want to see what the picture would look like 
had I shot it through a red filter.  How would I do that?  Just drop the green 
and blue luminance? Twiddle with camera calibration sliders?  Is there a better 
way?


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Re: Another color or black & white choice: Filter Question

2011-09-25 Thread Doug Brewer

On 9/26/11 1:19 AM, Larry Colen wrote:


On Sep 25, 2011, at 10:05 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:


They're both very nice.  You might try reducing the green luminance some to 
darken the ferns and make the tan leaves stand out more.  I think that will 
make a difference in both the b/w and color images.




This gives me an idea.  What if I want to see what the picture would look like 
had I shot it through a red filter.  How would I do that?  Just drop the green 
and blue luminance? Twiddle with camera calibration sliders?  Is there a better 
way?


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Larry,

I think you're using LR3. If you load the photo into the Develop module, 
then look in the LR presets, there's a B&W Red Filter Preset.


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Re: Another color or black & white choice: Filter Question

2011-09-25 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 25, 2011, at 10:05 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:

> They're both very nice.  You might try reducing the green luminance some to 
> darken the ferns and make the tan leaves stand out more.  I think that will 
> make a difference in both the b/w and color images.
> 


This gives me an idea.  What if I want to see what the picture would look like 
had I shot it through a red filter.  How would I do that?  Just drop the green 
and blue luminance? Twiddle with camera calibration sliders?  Is there a better 
way?


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