Re: Canon 5D MKII video
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/09/25 Thu PM 02:22:07 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Canon 5D MKII video Adam Maas wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:42 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Sessoms wrote: From: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] A friend tells me that the RED people are also working on an DSLR. Who are the RED people? They make the RED camera. More like they market the upcoming RED camera. There's a very fine line between makers and marketers these days... It's called the Pacific Ocean. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Canon 5D MKII video
mike wilson wrote: From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/09/25 Thu PM 02:22:07 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Canon 5D MKII video Adam Maas wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:42 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Sessoms wrote: From: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] A friend tells me that the RED people are also working on an DSLR. Who are the RED people? They make the RED camera. More like they market the upcoming RED camera. There's a very fine line between makers and marketers these days... It's called the Pacific Ocean. Lets see, Toyota is a Japanese company. They decide to build a new sports car. They have an outside design house, (either in Califonia or Itally), design the car body. They design most of but not all of the mechanical systems and use mostly off the shelf Delco parts for the electrical system. They buy parts from other manufactures from Detroit to Guangzhou, have the parts shipped to Tennessee, to be assembled at a United Motors Company factory, (an independent company that's joint venture with General Motors). They then sell this car at a Toyota Dealership in Canada. Is it an American made car or Japanese? Can you really call Toyota the Manufacture, they're certainly more than a marketer. What if GM sells the car in Canada, is it then an American Car? GM owns Delco, which is responsible for most of the electrical system after all, are they just a marketer, they own 1/2 the factory where it was built. What if the idea of the car started with GM and they asked Toyota to design the mechanicals and hire the outside design house, is GM just a marketer or the manufature the car, or is their relationship something else? You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Canon 5D MKII video
Adam Maas wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:42 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Sessoms wrote: From: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] A friend tells me that the RED people are also working on an DSLR. Who are the RED people? They make the RED camera. More like they market the upcoming RED camera. There's a very fine line between makers and marketers these days... -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Canon 5D MKII video
JIC nobody posted the finished video: http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/2008/09/22/without-further-ado-reverie/ Looks good, especially for someone who's never shot a video before. There are some white balance problems and the shot of the Empire State building seems to go dark like the camera had some kind of Auto-Exposure happening while running (this also happens right at the very end of the shot of the guy exiting the car and running into the focus area, look closely). But overall, beautiful work. Of course how the camera handles sync-sound is something altogether other than else. I also wonder how long a scene at 30FPS the buffer can handle. He doesn't show anything undercranked or overcranked either, does it only do 30FPS? If so that's really limiting. But for short MOS stuff like this...wowsers! A friend tells me that the RED people are also working on an DSLR. -Brendan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Canon 5D MKII video
On 24/9/08, Brendan MacRae, discombobulated, unleashed: JIC nobody posted the finished video: http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/2008/09/22/without-further-ado-reverie/ Yeah, looks good. They hired from the same helicopter company in NY that I did, I recognised the heliport. Good technical effort. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Canon 5D MKII video
On 24/9/08, Brendan MacRae, discombobulated, unleashed: JIC nobody posted the finished video: http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/2008/09/22/without-further-ado-reverie/ This video is much more interesting! http://vincentlaforet.smugmug.com/gallery/6021407_xEg87/1/ #378608891_Jd2CT-A-LB -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Canon 5D MKII video
--- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24/9/08, Brendan MacRae, discombobulated, unleashed: JIC nobody posted the finished video: http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/2008/09/22/without-further-ado-reverie/ This video is much more interesting! Clever way to handle the TV flicker on the actor...nice touch. One big problem you can see from this footage is relying on the LCD live-view for framing and focus. What the camera would need is some kind of LCD adapter that is very bright and marked with frame lines that includes a safe area for booms, lights, etc. I can forsee an entirely new aftermarket for manufacturers to build video kits for this camera to work around those limitations. -Brendan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Canon 5D MKII video
On 24/9/08, Brendan MacRae, discombobulated, unleashed: I can forsee an entirely new aftermarket for manufacturers to build video kits for this camera to work around those limitations. I'm not so sure. I understand why 'Explorer of Light' Vincent Laforet made the film - and many will see some applications, but there are logistical problems with using such a small camera for most broadcast and corporate applications. It is much easier to buy purpose-made kit that has ancillary support built in already. Having said that, rules are there to be broken and there is no doubt the video looks great. Filmmakers would be better advised in coming up with decent stories that attract attention ;) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Canon 5D MKII video
--- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24/9/08, Brendan MacRae, discombobulated, unleashed: I can forsee an entirely new aftermarket for manufacturers to build video kits for this camera to work around those limitations. I'm not so sure. Well, it's just a guess...;-) I remember when Sony came out with the VX1000 DV camcorder and within months there were companies who were making balanced XLR input boxes that pluged into the camera's single stereo mini jack. So, you never know. I understand why 'Explorer of Light' Vincent Laforet made the film - and many will see some applications, but there are logistical problems with using such a small camera for most broadcast and corporate applications. Totally agree. The camera's compactness would actually be a hindrance in many instances. Besides, photogs aren't going to suddenly become videographers in big numbers simply because the have a quiver full of compatible lenses. It is much easier to buy purpose-made kit that has ancillary support built in already. Having said that, rules are there to be broken and there is no doubt the video looks great. Filmmakers would be better advised in coming up with decent stories that attract attention ;) True, true. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Canon 5D MKII video
THAT video was VERY cool. It's nice when you can get Moby to let you use his tracks too... CW Cotty wrote: On 24/9/08, Brendan MacRae, discombobulated, unleashed: JIC nobody posted the finished video: http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/2008/09/22/without-further-ado-reverie/ This video is much more interesting! http://vincentlaforet.smugmug.com/gallery/6021407_xEg87/1/ #378608891_Jd2CT-A-LB -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.1/1687 - Release Date: 9/23/2008 6:32 PM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Canon 5D MKII video
On Sep 24, 2008, at 9:49 AM, Brendan MacRae wrote: JIC nobody posted the finished video: http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/2008/09/22/without-further-ado-reverie/ Looks neat. :-) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
re: Canon 5D MKII video
From: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] A friend tells me that the RED people are also working on an DSLR. Who are the RED people? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Canon 5D MKII video
2008/9/25 John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] A friend tells me that the RED people are also working on an DSLR. Who are the RED people? http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/09/the-red-dslr-a.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Canon 5D MKII video
Thanks, Dave! -Brendan --- David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/9/25 John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] A friend tells me that the RED people are also working on an DSLR. Who are the RED people? http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/09/the-red-dslr-a.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Canon 5D MKII video
John Sessoms wrote: From: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] A friend tells me that the RED people are also working on an DSLR. Who are the RED people? They make the RED camera. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Canon 5D MKII video
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24/9/08, Brendan MacRae, discombobulated, unleashed: I can forsee an entirely new aftermarket for manufacturers to build video kits for this camera to work around those limitations. I'm not so sure. I understand why 'Explorer of Light' Vincent Laforet made the film - and many will see some applications, but there are logistical problems with using such a small camera for most broadcast and corporate applications. It is much easier to buy purpose-made kit that has ancillary support built in already. Having said that, rules are there to be broken and there is no doubt the video looks great. Filmmakers would be better advised in coming up with decent stories that attract attention ;) -- Cheers, Cotty I see the main market for this sort of thing for pro's being PJ's and the like who want/need to do video on the side but for whom stills are the prime consideration. If you're doing pro video, you buy pro video kit, not a still camera with video capability. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Canon 5D MKII video
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:42 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Sessoms wrote: From: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] A friend tells me that the RED people are also working on an DSLR. Who are the RED people? They make the RED camera. More like they market the upcoming RED camera. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
