CibaChrome is dead.
It happened sometime last year, and I didn't even notice it. In combination with Kodachrome, if you did everything right, you could produce startlingly beautiful prints. Ilford announced sometime last year that they were discontinuing the product, (Ilfochrome), due to falling demand. A moment of silence please... -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: CibaChrome is dead.
I blame the Pope. B > From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling > > It happened sometime last year, and I didn't even notice it. In > combination with Kodachrome, if you did everything right, you could > produce startlingly beautiful prints. Ilford announced sometime last > year that they were discontinuing the product, (Ilfochrome), due to > falling demand. A moment of silence please... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: CibaChrome is dead.
I enjoyed making some Cibachrome prints 35 years ago. Still have one, and it still looks good. Paul via phone On Feb 11, 2013, at 5:51 PM, "P. J. Alling" wrote: > It happened sometime last year, and I didn't even notice it. In combination > with Kodachrome, if you did everything right, you could produce startlingly > beautiful prints. Ilford announced sometime last year that they were > discontinuing the product, (Ilfochrome), due to falling demand. A moment of > silence please... > > -- > Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds > in the bank account). > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: CibaChrome is dead.
Never did them myself, but my friendly local full-service ProLab offered them up until Ilford made their announcement. I just hope the supply of RA-4 papers will hold out. From: Paul Stenquist I enjoyed making some Cibachrome prints 35 years ago. Still have one, and it still looks good. Paul via phone On Feb 11, 2013, at 5:51 PM, "P. J. Alling" wrote: It happened sometime last year, and I didn't even notice it. In combination with Kodachrome, if you did everything right, you could produce startlingly beautiful prints. Ilford announced sometime last year that they were discontinuing the product, (Ilfochrome), due to falling demand. A moment of silence please... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: CibaChrome is dead.
That's sad! I remember the first Cibachrome I had made. It had been renamed Ilfochrome a few years hence by then, but people in the know switched terms every other sentence. Took me a while to figure out they were one and the same... :-) The first thing I thought was that the 50x70 cm print looked better than a projection of the original slide, both in colour and contrast, to the point that it became a serious boost to my photographic self-confidence. The lab I used had around 10 employees working full time to produce enlargements in 1998. They provided all kinds of chemical processes, but they had a particularly good reputation for skill with Cibachromes. Six years later, in 2003, all the print production except Cibas had ceased, and the company was reduced to one man. Last time I commissioned Ciba prints from him was in 2006. By then he produced on rapidly dwindling demand; he said he could notice the difference from one month to the next. I just checked now, and his company name is still registered with the authorities, so I suppose he has a small turnover still, until his supplies of paper and chemistry runs out. With the rising quality of prints from other processes I'm not sure if I'll miss the Cibas as such. But I certainly miss the excellence in craftsmanship and personal service provided, first by the company, then by the man. Jostein - Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 11:51 PM Subject: CibaChrome is dead. It happened sometime last year, and I didn't even notice it. In combination with Kodachrome, if you did everything right, you could produce startlingly beautiful prints. Ilford announced sometime last year that they were discontinuing the product, (Ilfochrome), due to falling demand. A moment of silence please... -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: CibaChrome is dead.
I miss the thrill of seeing a cibachrome print, but it was a very taxing project in a home darkroom. On a simple enlarger, one had to guess at an initial filter pack. Then processing the print required 30 minutes of rolling the drum back and forth by hand. Then came an analysis of the color, adjustment of the filter pack, and another 30 minutes of rolling the drum. Making a single satisfactory print was a two to three hour project. Paul On Feb 12, 2013, at 4:06 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote: > That's sad! > > I remember the first Cibachrome I had made. It had been renamed Ilfochrome a > few years hence by then, but people in the know switched terms every other > sentence. Took me a while to figure out they were one and the same... :-) > > The first thing I thought was that the 50x70 cm print looked better than a > projection of the original slide, both in colour and contrast, to the point > that it became a serious boost to my photographic self-confidence. > > The lab I used had around 10 employees working full time to produce > enlargements in 1998. They provided all kinds of chemical processes, but they > had a particularly good reputation for skill with Cibachromes. Six years > later, in 2003, all the print production except Cibas had ceased, and the > company was reduced to one man. Last time I commissioned Ciba prints from him > was in 2006. By then he produced on rapidly dwindling demand; he said he > could notice the difference from one month to the next. I just checked now, > and his company name is still registered with the authorities, so I suppose > he has a small turnover still, until his supplies of paper and chemistry runs > out. > > With the rising quality of prints from other processes I'm not sure if I'll > miss the Cibas as such. But I certainly miss the excellence in craftsmanship > and personal service provided, first by the company, then by the man. > > Jostein > > - Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 11:51 PM > Subject: CibaChrome is dead. > > >> It happened sometime last year, and I didn't even notice it. In combination >> with Kodachrome, if you did everything right, you could produce startlingly >> beautiful prints. Ilford announced sometime last year that they were >> discontinuing the product, (Ilfochrome), due to falling demand. A moment of >> silence please... >> >> -- >> Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds >> in the bank account). >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: CibaChrome is dead.
When I printed Cibachrome it was at college, (University for those in other English speaking lands), at the student run Photography co-op. We had invested in an electrically driven agitator for processing E-6 which was replacing at the time E-4 which was really just too toxic for a darkroom primarily run by student volunteers. The agitator made processing the Cibachrome so much easier. It made processing the E-6 less tedious as well. On 2/12/2013 4:50 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I miss the thrill of seeing a cibachrome print, but it was a very taxing project in a home darkroom. On a simple enlarger, one had to guess at an initial filter pack. Then processing the print required 30 minutes of rolling the drum back and forth by hand. Then came an analysis of the color, adjustment of the filter pack, and another 30 minutes of rolling the drum. Making a single satisfactory print was a two to three hour project. Paul On Feb 12, 2013, at 4:06 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote: That's sad! I remember the first Cibachrome I had made. It had been renamed Ilfochrome a few years hence by then, but people in the know switched terms every other sentence. Took me a while to figure out they were one and the same... :-) The first thing I thought was that the 50x70 cm print looked better than a projection of the original slide, both in colour and contrast, to the point that it became a serious boost to my photographic self-confidence. The lab I used had around 10 employees working full time to produce enlargements in 1998. They provided all kinds of chemical processes, but they had a particularly good reputation for skill with Cibachromes. Six years later, in 2003, all the print production except Cibas had ceased, and the company was reduced to one man. Last time I commissioned Ciba prints from him was in 2006. By then he produced on rapidly dwindling demand; he said he could notice the difference from one month to the next. I just checked now, and his company name is still registered with the authorities, so I suppose he has a small turnover still, until his supplies of paper and chemistry runs out. With the rising quality of prints from other processes I'm not sure if I'll miss the Cibas as such. But I certainly miss the excellence in craftsmanship and personal service provided, first by the company, then by the man. Jostein - Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 11:51 PM Subject: CibaChrome is dead. It happened sometime last year, and I didn't even notice it. In combination with Kodachrome, if you did everything right, you could produce startlingly beautiful prints. Ilford announced sometime last year that they were discontinuing the product, (Ilfochrome), due to falling demand. A moment of silence please... -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: CibaChrome is dead.
Sad. I still have some prints I made on the glossy paper in the 80s and still looks great. 11. feb. 2013 kl. 23:51 skrev P. J. Alling : > It happened sometime last year, and I didn't even notice it. In combination > with Kodachrome, if you did everything right, you could produce startlingly > beautiful prints. Ilford announced sometime last year that they were > discontinuing the product, (Ilfochrome), due to falling demand. A moment of > silence please... > > -- > Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds > in the bank account). > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: CibaChrome is dead.
Well, I couldn't believe it was still around. I think I haven't seen a new ciba print in the last ten years or so. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: CibaChrome is dead.
I learned to print Cibachrome in 1975 - did it before I developed film or printed black and white myself. rather an odd way to get into it. still have 50 or 60 prints I did myself and a few I had done by someone else. Still have the big tube, too. It was tough going getting the exposures right and the colors - and the chemicals were really noxious. But after doing those for a year or so, black and white printing was a walk in the park. But the results were better than getting negs made from slides and then having the um what was it? C-41 processing done by a lab??? My first honorable mention was a ciba print from the Grand canyon from the Saturday Review in 1976. Alas, they didn't print all the honorable mentions in the mag, so while it was exciting to get the mention, it would have been much more so to see it in print in that venerable old magazine. ann On 2/12/2013 12:02, P. J. Alling wrote: When I printed Cibachrome it was at college, (University for those in other English speaking lands), at the student run Photography co-op. We had invested in an electrically driven agitator for processing E-6 which was replacing at the time E-4 which was really just too toxic for a darkroom primarily run by student volunteers. The agitator made processing the Cibachrome so much easier. It made processing the E-6 less tedious as well. On 2/12/2013 4:50 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I miss the thrill of seeing a cibachrome print, but it was a very taxing project in a home darkroom. On a simple enlarger, one had to guess at an initial filter pack. Then processing the print required 30 minutes of rolling the drum back and forth by hand. Then came an analysis of the color, adjustment of the filter pack, and another 30 minutes of rolling the drum. Making a single satisfactory print was a two to three hour project. Paul On Feb 12, 2013, at 4:06 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote: That's sad! I remember the first Cibachrome I had made. It had been renamed Ilfochrome a few years hence by then, but people in the know switched terms every other sentence. Took me a while to figure out they were one and the same... :-) The first thing I thought was that the 50x70 cm print looked better than a projection of the original slide, both in colour and contrast, to the point that it became a serious boost to my photographic self-confidence. The lab I used had around 10 employees working full time to produce enlargements in 1998. They provided all kinds of chemical processes, but they had a particularly good reputation for skill with Cibachromes. Six years later, in 2003, all the print production except Cibas had ceased, and the company was reduced to one man. Last time I commissioned Ciba prints from him was in 2006. By then he produced on rapidly dwindling demand; he said he could notice the difference from one month to the next. I just checked now, and his company name is still registered with the authorities, so I suppose he has a small turnover still, until his supplies of paper and chemistry runs out. With the rising quality of prints from other processes I'm not sure if I'll miss the Cibas as such. But I certainly miss the excellence in craftsmanship and personal service provided, first by the company, then by the man. Jostein - Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 11:51 PM Subject: CibaChrome is dead. It happened sometime last year, and I didn't even notice it. In combination with Kodachrome, if you did everything right, you could produce startlingly beautiful prints. Ilford announced sometime last year that they were discontinuing the product, (Ilfochrome), due to falling demand. A moment of silence please... -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
