Re: Dare I use a 50-135 f/2.8 + K-7 to shoot a musical this week?

2010-11-02 Thread Christine Aguila


- Original Message - 
From: "Boris Liberman" 


On 11/2/2010 3:53 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
The Zuiko isn't very fast, so I've used it outdoors for the most part. 
Indoors, I'd probably have to go with 5.6 at the largest.


On Nov 2, 2010, at 1:12 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

If 50-200 Zuiko is fast (like f/2.8), then it could be preferable 
because ultimately it will give you even closer reach. If you decide to 
go with K-7, I suggest a battery grip that may help your steadiness.




I'll probably be buying the battery grip for this very reason.  The size of 
the K7 is great when shooting primes, especially the pancakes--so much fun, 
but get a heavier lens on the K7 body, and I find the balance uncomfortable. 
Cheers, Christine 



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Re: Dare I use a 50-135 f/2.8 + K-7 to shoot a musical this week?

2010-11-02 Thread Steven Desjardins
Go for it.  If it doesn't work, be sure to tell us so we can sympathize.

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Jeffery Smith  wrote:
> I have been using faster lenses (77/1.8) for stage productions until now, but 
> want to get a bit closer with a zoom. Do any of you who have this lens feel 
> that it will focus reliably in sometimes dim stage lights with a K-7?  
> Because of the added length, I'm taking a Porter bean bag to use as a rest.
>
> What ISO do I dare use indoor under incandescent lighting from floods? I'm 
> shooting it entirely RAW, so I can fiddle with color correction later on the 
> Mac.
>
> What say you? Feedback from the intelligentsia is welcomed, gas-baggy or not, 
> whoopee cushion or not, and I won't criticize your reading ability. My only 
> other long telephoto choices are 70-200 2.8 Sigma (10 years old), or a 50-200 
> Zuiko that I got with my E-1 (but I can use it on my more recent Panasonic.
>
> Jeffery Smith
> About to photography Bat Boy, like my reputation depends on it.
>
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Re: Dare I use a 50-135 f/2.8 + K-7 to shoot a musical this week?

2010-11-02 Thread Jeffery Smith
Tomorrow night. I'll have something posted soon after. I'm going to try a PAW 
again, to get my butt out of the house and shooting. With digital, there's not 
excuse not to have a Picture A Day no less than a Picture A Week.

Jeffery

Jeffery

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> "Who Dares Wins"
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> I say "Go for it!"
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RE: Dare I use a 50-135 f/2.8 + K-7 to shoot a musical this week?

2010-11-02 Thread John Sessoms

"Who Dares Wins"

I say "Go for it!"

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Re: Dare I use a 50-135 f/2.8 + K-7 to shoot a musical this week?

2010-11-02 Thread Boris Liberman
Oh, then it is no issue - DA* 50-135/2.8 would seem to be your best 
option among those at hand.


Boris

On 11/2/2010 3:53 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:

The Zuiko isn't very fast, so I've used it outdoors for the most part. Indoors, 
I'd probably have to go with 5.6 at the largest.

On Nov 2, 2010, at 1:12 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:


If 50-200 Zuiko is fast (like f/2.8), then it could be preferable because 
ultimately it will give you even closer reach. If you decide to go with K-7, I 
suggest a battery grip that may help your steadiness.


On 11/2/2010 5:13 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote:

I have been using faster lenses (77/1.8) for stage productions until
now, but want to get a bit closer with a zoom. Do any of you who have
this lens feel that it will focus reliably in sometimes dim stage
lights with a K-7?  Because of the added length, I'm taking a Porter
bean bag to use as a rest.

What ISO do I dare use indoor under incandescent lighting from
floods? I'm shooting it entirely RAW, so I can fiddle with color
correction later on the Mac.

What say you? Feedback from the intelligentsia is welcomed, gas-baggy
or not, whoopee cushion or not, and I won't criticize your reading
ability. My only other long telephoto choices are 70-200 2.8 Sigma
(10 years old), or a 50-200 Zuiko that I got with my E-1 (but I can
use it on my more recent Panasonic.

Jeffery Smith About to photography Bat Boy, like my reputation
depends on it.






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Re: Dare I use a 50-135 f/2.8 + K-7 to shoot a musical this week?

2010-11-02 Thread Jeffery Smith
Good close, sharp shots Paul. I'll probably start with an ISO of 1600 and see 
how it goes. I've never used the setting that allows me to choose shutter speed 
and aperture while letting the camera choose the ISO. This seems like a good 
opportunity to try that feature.

Jeffery


On Nov 2, 2010, at 5:14 AM, paul stenquist wrote:

> I can second Christine's recommendation. I've shot performers with the DA* 
> 50-135 and K7 with good results. Many wide open at ISO 6400 in dim lighting. 
> No problem with autofocus or exposure.  I believe all of these are either ISO 
> 5000 or 6400, most at f2.8:
> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=981706
> Paul
> 
> On Nov 2, 2010, at 12:20 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
> 
>> The DA* 50-135mm should focus reliably for you under the conditions you 
>> describe below.  As to ISO, I had to shoot stage production photos last 
>> August--the play was Hay Fever.  I shot ISO 800 for the entire shoot.  A bit 
>> of noise & saturation reduction in Lightroom worked just fine.  Here's the 
>> link:  www.caguila.com/caguila/hayfever .
>> f4 was used with the DA 16-45mm for all shots.
>> 
>> I have used the DA* 50-135mm under some really, and I say, really, dark 
>> stage situations, shooting really slow.  The lens focused reliably, but it 
>> was hard to keep steady, but that's my error, not equipment error.
>> 
>> For the shoot previously mentioned, it was just me, the director, and the 
>> actors on stage.  I was not shooting from the audience during performance 
>> time, so I was able to get close and didn't need the longer lens.  Cheers, 
>> Christine
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message - From: "Jeffery Smith" 
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 10:13 PM
>> Subject: Dare I use a 50-135 f/2.8 + K-7 to shoot a musical this week?
>> 
>> 
>>> I have been using faster lenses (77/1.8) for stage productions until now, 
>>> but want to get a bit closer with a zoom. Do any of you who have this lens 
>>> feel that it will focus reliably in sometimes dim stage lights with a K-7? 
>>> Because of the added length, I'm taking a Porter bean bag to use as a rest.
>>> 
>>> What ISO do I dare use indoor under incandescent lighting from floods? I'm 
>>> shooting it entirely RAW, so I can fiddle with color correction later on 
>>> the Mac.
>>> 
>>> What say you? Feedback from the intelligentsia is welcomed, gas-baggy or 
>>> not, whoopee cushion or not, and I won't criticize your reading ability. My 
>>> only other long telephoto choices are 70-200 2.8 Sigma (10 years old), or a 
>>> 50-200 Zuiko that I got with my E-1 (but I can use it on my more recent 
>>> Panasonic.
>>> 
>>> Jeffery Smith
>>> About to photography Bat Boy, like my reputation depends on it.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Dare I use a 50-135 f/2.8 + K-7 to shoot a musical this week?

2010-11-02 Thread Jeffery Smith
I have a K-x and used it (for the first time) on the last stage production. I 
didn't really have any DARK dark scenes, so it worked okay. I know this show 
will have some serious darkness.

Jeffery

On Nov 2, 2010, at 3:46 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

> 
> On Nov 1, 2010, at 8:13 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
> 
>> I have been using faster lenses (77/1.8) for stage productions until now, 
>> but want to get a bit closer with a zoom. Do any of you who have this lens 
>> feel that it will focus reliably in sometimes dim stage lights with a K-7?  
>> Because of the added length, I'm taking a Porter bean bag to use as a rest. 
> 
> If any of the cast are wearing black on their costumes, you may be able to 
> use that to tweak the color balance closer to correct.
> 
>> 
>> What ISO do I dare use indoor under incandescent lighting from floods? I'm 
>> shooting it entirely RAW, so I can fiddle with color correction later on the 
>> Mac.
>> 
>> What say you? Feedback from the intelligentsia is welcomed, gas-baggy or 
>> not, whoopee cushion or not, and I won't criticize your reading ability. My 
>> only other long telephoto choices are 70-200 2.8 Sigma (10 years old), or a 
>> 50-200 Zuiko that I got with my E-1 (but I can use it on my more recent 
>> Panasonic.
> 
> Do you know anybody with a K-x you can borrow?
> 
> 
>> 
>> Jeffery Smith
>> About to photography Bat Boy, like my reputation depends on it.
>> 
>> 
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Re: Dare I use a 50-135 f/2.8 + K-7 to shoot a musical this week?

2010-11-02 Thread Jeffery Smith
The Zuiko isn't very fast, so I've used it outdoors for the most part. Indoors, 
I'd probably have to go with 5.6 at the largest.

On Nov 2, 2010, at 1:12 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

> If 50-200 Zuiko is fast (like f/2.8), then it could be preferable because 
> ultimately it will give you even closer reach. If you decide to go with K-7, 
> I suggest a battery grip that may help your steadiness.
> 
> 
> On 11/2/2010 5:13 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
>> I have been using faster lenses (77/1.8) for stage productions until
>> now, but want to get a bit closer with a zoom. Do any of you who have
>> this lens feel that it will focus reliably in sometimes dim stage
>> lights with a K-7?  Because of the added length, I'm taking a Porter
>> bean bag to use as a rest.
>> 
>> What ISO do I dare use indoor under incandescent lighting from
>> floods? I'm shooting it entirely RAW, so I can fiddle with color
>> correction later on the Mac.
>> 
>> What say you? Feedback from the intelligentsia is welcomed, gas-baggy
>> or not, whoopee cushion or not, and I won't criticize your reading
>> ability. My only other long telephoto choices are 70-200 2.8 Sigma
>> (10 years old), or a 50-200 Zuiko that I got with my E-1 (but I can
>> use it on my more recent Panasonic.
>> 
>> Jeffery Smith About to photography Bat Boy, like my reputation
>> depends on it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Dare I use a 50-135 f/2.8 + K-7 to shoot a musical this week?

2010-11-02 Thread Jeffery Smith
Thanks Christine. Like you, I'll be the only person in the audience (dress 
rehearsal), so I'll be able to close in. The shots you posted look great. A far 
cry from mine from the mid-1990's when I had to use Fuji 800.

Jeffery
On Nov 1, 2010, at 11:20 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

> The DA* 50-135mm should focus reliably for you under the conditions you 
> describe below.  As to ISO, I had to shoot stage production photos last 
> August--the play was Hay Fever.  I shot ISO 800 for the entire shoot.  A bit 
> of noise & saturation reduction in Lightroom worked just fine.  Here's the 
> link:  www.caguila.com/caguila/hayfever .
> f4 was used with the DA 16-45mm for all shots.
> 
> I have used the DA* 50-135mm under some really, and I say, really, dark stage 
> situations, shooting really slow.  The lens focused reliably, but it was hard 
> to keep steady, but that's my error, not equipment error.
> 
> For the shoot previously mentioned, it was just me, the director, and the 
> actors on stage.  I was not shooting from the audience during performance 
> time, so I was able to get close and didn't need the longer lens.  Cheers, 
> Christine
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Jeffery Smith" 
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 10:13 PM
> Subject: Dare I use a 50-135 f/2.8 + K-7 to shoot a musical this week?
> 
> 
>> I have been using faster lenses (77/1.8) for stage productions until now, 
>> but want to get a bit closer with a zoom. Do any of you who have this lens 
>> feel that it will focus reliably in sometimes dim stage lights with a K-7? 
>> Because of the added length, I'm taking a Porter bean bag to use as a rest.
>> 
>> What ISO do I dare use indoor under incandescent lighting from floods? I'm 
>> shooting it entirely RAW, so I can fiddle with color correction later on the 
>> Mac.
>> 
>> What say you? Feedback from the intelligentsia is welcomed, gas-baggy or 
>> not, whoopee cushion or not, and I won't criticize your reading ability. My 
>> only other long telephoto choices are 70-200 2.8 Sigma (10 years old), or a 
>> 50-200 Zuiko that I got with my E-1 (but I can use it on my more recent 
>> Panasonic.
>> 
>> Jeffery Smith
>> About to photography Bat Boy, like my reputation depends on it.
>> 
>> 
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Re: Dare I use a 50-135 f/2.8 + K-7 to shoot a musical this week?

2010-11-02 Thread paul stenquist

On Nov 2, 2010, at 4:46 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

> 
> On Nov 1, 2010, at 8:13 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
> 
>> I have been using faster lenses (77/1.8) for stage productions until now, 
>> but want to get a bit closer with a zoom. Do any of you who have this lens 
>> feel that it will focus reliably in sometimes dim stage lights with a K-7?  
>> Because of the added length, I'm taking a Porter bean bag to use as a rest. 
> 
> If any of the cast are wearing black on their costumes, you may be able to 
> use that to tweak the color balance closer to correct.
> 
>> 
>> What ISO do I dare use indoor under incandescent lighting from floods? I'm 
>> shooting it entirely RAW, so I can fiddle with color correction later on the 
>> Mac.
>> 
>> What say you? Feedback from the intelligentsia is welcomed, gas-baggy or 
>> not, whoopee cushion or not, and I won't criticize your reading ability. My 
>> only other long telephoto choices are 70-200 2.8 Sigma (10 years old), or a 
>> 50-200 Zuiko that I got with my E-1 (but I can use it on my more recent 
>> Panasonic.
> 
> Do you know anybody with a K-x you can borrow?
> 
I don't think the K-x will autofocus in dim stage lighting. 
Paul
> 
>> 
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Re: Dare I use a 50-135 f/2.8 + K-7 to shoot a musical this week?

2010-11-02 Thread paul stenquist
I can second Christine's recommendation. I've shot performers with the DA* 
50-135 and K7 with good results. Many wide open at ISO 6400 in dim lighting. No 
problem with autofocus or exposure.  I believe all of these are either ISO 5000 
or 6400, most at f2.8:
http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=981706
Paul

On Nov 2, 2010, at 12:20 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

> The DA* 50-135mm should focus reliably for you under the conditions you 
> describe below.  As to ISO, I had to shoot stage production photos last 
> August--the play was Hay Fever.  I shot ISO 800 for the entire shoot.  A bit 
> of noise & saturation reduction in Lightroom worked just fine.  Here's the 
> link:  www.caguila.com/caguila/hayfever .
> f4 was used with the DA 16-45mm for all shots.
> 
> I have used the DA* 50-135mm under some really, and I say, really, dark stage 
> situations, shooting really slow.  The lens focused reliably, but it was hard 
> to keep steady, but that's my error, not equipment error.
> 
> For the shoot previously mentioned, it was just me, the director, and the 
> actors on stage.  I was not shooting from the audience during performance 
> time, so I was able to get close and didn't need the longer lens.  Cheers, 
> Christine
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Jeffery Smith" 
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 10:13 PM
> Subject: Dare I use a 50-135 f/2.8 + K-7 to shoot a musical this week?
> 
> 
>> I have been using faster lenses (77/1.8) for stage productions until now, 
>> but want to get a bit closer with a zoom. Do any of you who have this lens 
>> feel that it will focus reliably in sometimes dim stage lights with a K-7? 
>> Because of the added length, I'm taking a Porter bean bag to use as a rest.
>> 
>> What ISO do I dare use indoor under incandescent lighting from floods? I'm 
>> shooting it entirely RAW, so I can fiddle with color correction later on the 
>> Mac.
>> 
>> What say you? Feedback from the intelligentsia is welcomed, gas-baggy or 
>> not, whoopee cushion or not, and I won't criticize your reading ability. My 
>> only other long telephoto choices are 70-200 2.8 Sigma (10 years old), or a 
>> 50-200 Zuiko that I got with my E-1 (but I can use it on my more recent 
>> Panasonic.
>> 
>> Jeffery Smith
>> About to photography Bat Boy, like my reputation depends on it.
>> 
>> 
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Re: Dare I use a 50-135 f/2.8 + K-7 to shoot a musical this week?

2010-11-02 Thread Larry Colen

On Nov 1, 2010, at 8:13 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:

> I have been using faster lenses (77/1.8) for stage productions until now, but 
> want to get a bit closer with a zoom. Do any of you who have this lens feel 
> that it will focus reliably in sometimes dim stage lights with a K-7?  
> Because of the added length, I'm taking a Porter bean bag to use as a rest. 

If any of the cast are wearing black on their costumes, you may be able to use 
that to tweak the color balance closer to correct.

> 
> What ISO do I dare use indoor under incandescent lighting from floods? I'm 
> shooting it entirely RAW, so I can fiddle with color correction later on the 
> Mac.
> 
> What say you? Feedback from the intelligentsia is welcomed, gas-baggy or not, 
> whoopee cushion or not, and I won't criticize your reading ability. My only 
> other long telephoto choices are 70-200 2.8 Sigma (10 years old), or a 50-200 
> Zuiko that I got with my E-1 (but I can use it on my more recent Panasonic.

Do you know anybody with a K-x you can borrow?


> 
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> About to photography Bat Boy, like my reputation depends on it.
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Re: Dare I use a 50-135 f/2.8 + K-7 to shoot a musical this week?

2010-11-01 Thread Boris Liberman
If 50-200 Zuiko is fast (like f/2.8), then it could be preferable 
because ultimately it will give you even closer reach. If you decide to 
go with K-7, I suggest a battery grip that may help your steadiness.



On 11/2/2010 5:13 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote:

I have been using faster lenses (77/1.8) for stage productions until
now, but want to get a bit closer with a zoom. Do any of you who have
this lens feel that it will focus reliably in sometimes dim stage
lights with a K-7?  Because of the added length, I'm taking a Porter
bean bag to use as a rest.

What ISO do I dare use indoor under incandescent lighting from
floods? I'm shooting it entirely RAW, so I can fiddle with color
correction later on the Mac.

What say you? Feedback from the intelligentsia is welcomed, gas-baggy
or not, whoopee cushion or not, and I won't criticize your reading
ability. My only other long telephoto choices are 70-200 2.8 Sigma
(10 years old), or a 50-200 Zuiko that I got with my E-1 (but I can
use it on my more recent Panasonic.

Jeffery Smith About to photography Bat Boy, like my reputation
depends on it.






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Re: Dare I use a 50-135 f/2.8 + K-7 to shoot a musical this week?

2010-11-01 Thread Peter Loveday

No, you will need to buy a K5 for this :)

- Peter


-Original Message- 
From: Jeffery Smith

Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 1:43 PM
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Subject: Dare I use a 50-135 f/2.8 + K-7 to shoot a musical this week?

I have been using faster lenses (77/1.8) for stage productions until now, 
but want to get a bit closer with a zoom. Do any of you who have this lens 
feel that it will focus reliably in sometimes dim stage lights with a K-7? 
Because of the added length, I'm taking a Porter bean bag to use as a rest.


What ISO do I dare use indoor under incandescent lighting from floods? I'm 
shooting it entirely RAW, so I can fiddle with color correction later on the 
Mac.


What say you? Feedback from the intelligentsia is welcomed, gas-baggy or 
not, whoopee cushion or not, and I won't criticize your reading ability. My 
only other long telephoto choices are 70-200 2.8 Sigma (10 years old), or a 
50-200 Zuiko that I got with my E-1 (but I can use it on my more recent 
Panasonic.


Jeffery Smith
About to photography Bat Boy, like my reputation depends on it.



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Re: Dare I use a 50-135 f/2.8 + K-7 to shoot a musical this week?

2010-11-01 Thread Christine Aguila
The DA* 50-135mm should focus reliably for you under the conditions you 
describe below.  As to ISO, I had to shoot stage production photos last 
August--the play was Hay Fever.  I shot ISO 800 for the entire shoot.  A bit 
of noise & saturation reduction in Lightroom worked just fine.  Here's the 
link:  www.caguila.com/caguila/hayfever .

f4 was used with the DA 16-45mm for all shots.

I have used the DA* 50-135mm under some really, and I say, really, dark 
stage situations, shooting really slow.  The lens focused reliably, but it 
was hard to keep steady, but that's my error, not equipment error.


For the shoot previously mentioned, it was just me, the director, and the 
actors on stage.  I was not shooting from the audience during performance 
time, so I was able to get close and didn't need the longer lens.  Cheers, 
Christine






- Original Message - 
From: "Jeffery Smith" 

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Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 10:13 PM
Subject: Dare I use a 50-135 f/2.8 + K-7 to shoot a musical this week?


I have been using faster lenses (77/1.8) for stage productions until now, 
but want to get a bit closer with a zoom. Do any of you who have this lens 
feel that it will focus reliably in sometimes dim stage lights with a K-7? 
Because of the added length, I'm taking a Porter bean bag to use as a rest.


What ISO do I dare use indoor under incandescent lighting from floods? I'm 
shooting it entirely RAW, so I can fiddle with color correction later on 
the Mac.


What say you? Feedback from the intelligentsia is welcomed, gas-baggy or 
not, whoopee cushion or not, and I won't criticize your reading ability. 
My only other long telephoto choices are 70-200 2.8 Sigma (10 years old), 
or a 50-200 Zuiko that I got with my E-1 (but I can use it on my more 
recent Panasonic.


Jeffery Smith
About to photography Bat Boy, like my reputation depends on it.



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Dare I use a 50-135 f/2.8 + K-7 to shoot a musical this week?

2010-11-01 Thread Jeffery Smith
I have been using faster lenses (77/1.8) for stage productions until now, but 
want to get a bit closer with a zoom. Do any of you who have this lens feel 
that it will focus reliably in sometimes dim stage lights with a K-7?  Because 
of the added length, I'm taking a Porter bean bag to use as a rest. 

What ISO do I dare use indoor under incandescent lighting from floods? I'm 
shooting it entirely RAW, so I can fiddle with color correction later on the 
Mac.

What say you? Feedback from the intelligentsia is welcomed, gas-baggy or not, 
whoopee cushion or not, and I won't criticize your reading ability. My only 
other long telephoto choices are 70-200 2.8 Sigma (10 years old), or a 50-200 
Zuiko that I got with my E-1 (but I can use it on my more recent Panasonic.

Jeffery Smith
About to photography Bat Boy, like my reputation depends on it.



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