Re: Digital & BW Photography

2001-11-15 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Thursday, November 15, 2001, at 05:21  AM, Bob Rapp wrote:

> I'm particularly interested in the responses. I personally think that
> digital is a long way from replacing B&W. I doubt that there are many
> printers available at any cost that can do justice to the full grey 
> scale of
> a B&W print.

I'm interested, too, but I'll tell you what the kicker is here: bigger 
prints.

I am perfectly happy with the results I get on the Epson 7500 using 
black ink only printing a 35mm Delta 3200 neg at 8x10.  On the other 
hand, an APX 25 neg printed 5x7 looks grainy and the tonal range seems 
compressed.  This is because rather than using different shades of gray, 
as the quad tone inksets do, the printer just uses one ink: dark black.  
This leads to patterning resembling grain in smooth mid-tones.  However, 
if the image is not smooth, and the scan reveals detail in the film's 
grain, the resulting print can be quite excellent (though not equivalent 
to a fibre based print).  I would imagine that a 4000dpi scan from Tri-X 
could make a nice 11x14.

The b&w hockey prints on the wall at the store were done this way.

I keep considering moving to quad tone on my old Epson 1200, but I still 
haven't seen a result that I've been wowed by.  And if I'm going to 
spend $500 on a conversion kit, I want to be wowed.

I do find that quite often duotones printed with the full colour inkset 
look fabulous.

-Aaron
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RE: Digital & BW Photography

2001-11-15 Thread Mike Johnston

Bob R. wrote:

> I'm particularly interested in the responses. I personally think that
> digital is a long way from replacing B&W. I doubt that there are many
> printers available at any cost that can do justice to the full grey scale of
> a B&W print.

You haven't seen enough Piezography prints yet!!

--Mike
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Digital & BW Photography

2001-11-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff

Color - that's pretty much what everyone is discussing when discussing
digital cameras. Seems that the cameras only photograph in color but, in
order to make B&W pictures, the image has to be desaturated.  Is that
correct?  When I've seen  desaturated color the tones don't seem to be
the same as with true B&W photos.  So, the digital dunce asks, how close
to true B&W film photography is desaturated digital color imaging? 
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Shel Belinkoff
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