Dos PESOs - the Arkansas Travler
First up is a lesson that if you can't get a fast enough shutter speed to hand hold it, GO BACK TO THE CAR AND GET THE DAMN TRIPOD. There's just too much noise. FWIW, it looks great on the back of the camera. I'm extremely disappointed that I traveled almost 900 miles and blew the shot!: https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/49091101082 The second shot was taken with flash & I'm reasonably pleased with it: https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/49090897656 This was taken with a flaky Vivitar 285HV. All of my Pentax flashes appear to be dead now. And since all of them are OLD, none will be covered by warranty. Is there any place I can send them that will actually repair them? Or should I just trash them & replace? -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Am 19.11.19 um 18:04 schrieb John: I'm extremely disappointed that I traveled almost 900 miles and blew the shot!: Methinks the crowd barrier is far more annoying than the noise. But what a beautiful machine. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> On 19 Nov 2019, at 18:59, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > >> Am 19.11.19 um 18:04 schrieb John: >> >> I'm extremely disappointed that I traveled almost 900 miles and blew the >> shot!: > > Methinks the crowd barrier is far more annoying than the noise. But what > a beautiful machine. > Ditto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ditto, ditto. -Original Message- >From: Bob Pdml >Subject: Re: Dos PESOs - the Arkansas Travler > > >> On 19 Nov 2019, at 18:59, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: >> >>> Am 19.11.19 um 18:04 schrieb John: >>> >>> I'm extremely disappointed that I traveled almost 900 miles and blew the >>> shot!: >> >> Methinks the crowd barrier is far more annoying than the noise. But what >> a beautiful machine. >> > >Ditto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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They wouldn't have let me move the crowd barrier (or go past it). Probably would have gotten locked up and then I wouldn't have gotten ANY photos. Technically, I wasn't supposed to be there after dark, but I talked to the security guy and told him I'd driven 20 hours to get there & he let me wander around and take photos. Couldn't do anything about the security barrier, but the noise I could have avoided if I hadn't been to lazy (tired) to go back to the car and get the tripod. On 11/19/2019 17:05:07, Ken Waller wrote: Ditto, ditto. -Original Message----- From: Bob Pdml Subject: Re: Dos PESOs - the Arkansas Travler On 19 Nov 2019, at 18:59, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: Am 19.11.19 um 18:04 schrieb John: I'm extremely disappointed that I traveled almost 900 miles and blew the shot!: Methinks the crowd barrier is far more annoying than the noise. But what a beautiful machine. Ditto -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> On 19 November 2019 at 17:04 John wrote: > This was taken with a flaky Vivitar 285HV. All of my Pentax flashes appear to > be > dead now. And since all of them are OLD, none will be covered by warranty. > > Is there any place I can send them that will actually repair them? Or should > I > just trash them & replace? Unusual for them all to be completely dead. You can recondition capacitors by setting to manual, then charging and discharging repeatedly. Might take some time to charge the first few cycles. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 11/20/2019 01:54:22, mike wilson wrote: On 19 November 2019 at 17:04 John wrote: This was taken with a flaky Vivitar 285HV. All of my Pentax flashes appear to be dead now. And since all of them are OLD, none will be covered by warranty. Is there any place I can send them that will actually repair them? Or should I just trash them & replace? Unusual for them all to be completely dead. You can recondition capacitors by setting to manual, then charging and discharging repeatedly. Might take some time to charge the first few cycles. I killed one of them by leaving batteries in it too long & they leaked. The other two were stored without batteries. When I put batteries in them they won't turn on at all. I'm sure I did something wrong with them as well. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> On 20 November 2019 at 14:21 John wrote: > > > On 11/20/2019 01:54:22, mike wilson wrote: > >> On 19 November 2019 at 17:04 John wrote: > > > >> This was taken with a flaky Vivitar 285HV. All of my Pentax flashes appear > >> to be dead now. And since all of them are OLD, none will be covered by > >> warranty. > >> > >> Is there any place I can send them that will actually repair them? Or > >> should I just trash them & replace? > > > > Unusual for them all to be completely dead. You can recondition capacitors > > by setting to manual, then charging and discharging repeatedly. Might take > > some time to charge the first few cycles. > > > > I killed one of them by leaving batteries in it too long & they leaked. > > The other two were stored without batteries. When I put batteries in them > they > won't turn on at all. I'm sure I did something wrong with them as well. Do they whine at all? Still might be worth leaving them switched on for 15-30 minutes. Battery corrosion can be dealt with, unless it has actually dissolved parts. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Am 20.11.19 um 15:21 schrieb John: The other two were stored without batteries. When I put batteries in them they won't turn on at all. I'm sure I did something wrong with them as well. No need to do anything wrong there. They can very well take care of killing themselves. Electronic flashes contain electrolytic capacitors - as reservoirs for the flash energy and as parts of the oscillator to generate the high voltage for the flash tube - which lose their capacity if they're left without voltage applied to them for longer periods of time. Some of this loss is reversible by applying voltage to them. Give them fresh batteries, switch them on and wait a few hours. Then switch them off and on again and with a bit of luck the odcillator will start with its usual whining sound. If it doesn't you've probably lost since the repair cost might well be higher than buying a new flash. In an earlier life, I've spent parts of my summer school holidays at the Multiblitz factory, selecting pairs of electrolytic capacitors so that they had the desired capacity. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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John, what ISO and exposure were you using? Rick > On Nov 19, 2019, at 12:04 PM, John wrote: > > First up is a lesson that if you can't get a fast enough shutter speed to > hand hold it, GO BACK TO THE CAR AND GET THE DAMN TRIPOD. There's just too > much noise. FWIW, it looks great on the back of the camera. > > I'm extremely disappointed that I traveled almost 900 miles and blew the > shot!: > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/49091101082 > > The second shot was taken with flash & I'm reasonably pleased with it: > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/49090897656 > > This was taken with a flaky Vivitar 285HV. All of my Pentax flashes appear to > be dead now. And since all of them are OLD, none will be covered by warranty. > > Is there any place I can send them that will actually repair them? Or should > I just trash them & replace? > > -- > Science - Questions we may never find answers for. > Religion - Answers we must never question. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 11/20/2019 09:28:33, mike wilson wrote: On 20 November 2019 at 14:21 John wrote: On 11/20/2019 01:54:22, mike wilson wrote: On 19 November 2019 at 17:04 John wrote: This was taken with a flaky Vivitar 285HV. All of my Pentax flashes appear to be dead now. And since all of them are OLD, none will be covered by warranty. Is there any place I can send them that will actually repair them? Or should I just trash them & replace? Unusual for them all to be completely dead. You can recondition capacitors by setting to manual, then charging and discharging repeatedly. Might take some time to charge the first few cycles. I killed one of them by leaving batteries in it too long & they leaked. The other two were stored without batteries. When I put batteries in them they won't turn on at all. I'm sure I did something wrong with them as well. Do they whine at all? Still might be worth leaving them switched on for 15-30 minutes. Battery corrosion can be dealt with, unless it has actually dissolved parts. I didn't have time to clean the battery leakage when I found it; just removed the batteries & brushed out the surface gunk so it wouldn't get any worse. That's what prompted me to check the other two. No batteries inside, so I put fresh ones in to check them. They don't do anything when I turn them on, no charging whine, no nothing. Tried with a different set of batteries from a different pack. Still no response. I'll give the "turn it on & let it sit for 30 minutes" later today & see if that works, but I'm pretty sure I've effed them up beyond my ability to fix them. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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"First Impression" is 1/125th second at F/8, ISO 800, Vivitar 285HV flash set to yellow. "Big_Boy_OWL" is 1/60th second at f/11, ISO 102400. I want to cry every time I look at it. I should have gone back to the car and got my tripod. For those who are not familiar, "OWL" is O. Winston Link, one of the true gods of night rail photography. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O._Winston_Link https://www.moma.org/collection/works/49823 Note that this image was made with flash BULBS. Vivitar 285HV: https://www.thephoblographer.com/2012/06/14/quick-review-vivitar-285hv-manual-flash/ On 11/20/2019 21:23:35, Rick Womer wrote: John, what ISO and exposure were you using? Rick On Nov 19, 2019, at 12:04 PM, John wrote: First up is a lesson that if you can't get a fast enough shutter speed to hand hold it, GO BACK TO THE CAR AND GET THE DAMN TRIPOD. There's just too much noise. FWIW, it looks great on the back of the camera. I'm extremely disappointed that I traveled almost 900 miles and blew the shot!: https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/49091101082 The second shot was taken with flash & I'm reasonably pleased with it: https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/49090897656 This was taken with a flaky Vivitar 285HV. All of my Pentax flashes appear to be dead now. And since all of them are OLD, none will be covered by warranty. Is there any place I can send them that will actually repair them? Or should I just trash them & replace? -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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They aren't worth repair, unfortunately, unless you're willing and able to do the work yourself. Last time I priced a used 280T it was something like 20 dollars. The minimum repair cost of a more modern flash is about 300 and right now KEH.com has a AF540FGZ for about $140.00. Repair simply isn't worth the money. On 11/20/2019 1:54 AM, mike wilson wrote: On 19 November 2019 at 17:04 John wrote: This was taken with a flaky Vivitar 285HV. All of my Pentax flashes appear to be dead now. And since all of them are OLD, none will be covered by warranty. Is there any place I can send them that will actually repair them? Or should I just trash them & replace? Unusual for them all to be completely dead. You can recondition capacitors by setting to manual, then charging and discharging repeatedly. Might take some time to charge the first few cycles. -- Any idiot can shoot with a Canon, Nikon, or Sony, it takes a special kind of idiot to use a Pentax. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Get an old fashioned pencil with an eraser. Clean the battery contacts by rubbing them with the eraser. Then try a nice fresh set of batteries. That might work. On 11/21/2019 10:44 AM, John wrote: On 11/20/2019 09:28:33, mike wilson wrote: On 20 November 2019 at 14:21 John wrote: On 11/20/2019 01:54:22, mike wilson wrote: On 19 November 2019 at 17:04 John wrote: This was taken with a flaky Vivitar 285HV. All of my Pentax flashes appear to be dead now. And since all of them are OLD, none will be covered by warranty. Is there any place I can send them that will actually repair them? Or should I just trash them & replace? Unusual for them all to be completely dead. You can recondition capacitors by setting to manual, then charging and discharging repeatedly. Might take some time to charge the first few cycles. I killed one of them by leaving batteries in it too long & they leaked. The other two were stored without batteries. When I put batteries in them they won't turn on at all. I'm sure I did something wrong with them as well. Do they whine at all? Still might be worth leaving them switched on for 15-30 minutes. Battery corrosion can be dealt with, unless it has actually dissolved parts. I didn't have time to clean the battery leakage when I found it; just removed the batteries & brushed out the surface gunk so it wouldn't get any worse. That's what prompted me to check the other two. No batteries inside, so I put fresh ones in to check them. They don't do anything when I turn them on, no charging whine, no nothing. Tried with a different set of batteries from a different pack. Still no response. I'll give the "turn it on & let it sit for 30 minutes" later today & see if that works, but I'm pretty sure I've effed them up beyond my ability to fix them. -- Any idiot can shoot with a Canon, Nikon, or Sony, it takes a special kind of idiot to use a Pentax. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
