Re: Encouraging the bubbahood

2002-04-07 Thread Mike Ignatiev

> Difficulty in getting convenient processing is one reason. Many years
> ago, when my Rolleiflex TLR was the only camera I had, I could drop film
> off at a drug store or whatever and get back machine prints of snaps and
> travel photos. Can't do that today. Maybe there are some 1-hour places
> or the like that do 120 film, but I do not know of any. When I use the
> Rollei now -- rarely -- I have to either go to a pro lab or find a
> darkroom to work in myself.

In downtown Boston there are at least two "a few hours" places that do MF
chromes, I drop the film off on my way to work and pick it up at lunch. The
price is $6 for a roll of 120 film, which I think is quite reasonable. None
of them does enlargements though. OTOH, I doubt that the drug stores used to
make 16x20 prints even "many years ago", and for contact sheets, scanning on
a cheap flat bad is good enough (and hard to beat the price!) The only real
hassle, in my view, is lack of availability of 120 film -- there's no Kodak
Supra/Royal Gold  analog as far as I know, and of course, the only places
you can buy it are pro stores, so if you run out of film, say, in Bryce
Canyon -- tough luck.

> But you do not need high end SLRs for casual use anyway; It is easy to
> do what most folks do, use a 35mm P&S (or even drag out the PZ1-p) or LX
> for snaps.

What I seem to be ending up with is P&S for snapshots (Olympus Stylus
Epic -- wonderful little camera, albeit with its limitations), LX for
special needs, like macro, available light/darkness, very wide angle or long
tele, and MF for pretty much anything else -- P6x7, or 'cord for hikes.
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Re: Encouraging the bubbahood

2002-04-06 Thread Robert Harris

Mike Ignatiev wrote:

>...i got myself a rolleicord tlr for well under $200...for sheer
> image quality per buck it's hard to beat. for non-professional use i find it
> difficult to understand why people are paying kilo$ for high end 35mm slr
> systems.


Difficulty in getting convenient processing is one reason. Many years 
ago, when my Rolleiflex TLR was the only camera I had, I could drop film 
off at a drug store or whatever and get back machine prints of snaps and 
travel photos. Can't do that today. Maybe there are some 1-hour places 
or the like that do 120 film, but I do not know of any. When I use the 
Rollei now -- rarely -- I have to either go to a pro lab or find a 
darkroom to work in myself.

But you do not need high end SLRs for casual use anyway; It is easy to 
do what most folks do, use a 35mm P&S (or even drag out the PZ1-p) or LX 
for snaps.

Bob
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Re: Encouraging the bubbahood

2002-04-06 Thread Nitin Garg

> ...although there's one cool thing i'd love to have in digital: uploading
> pics on my home server via cellular uplink. if someone come up with this
> setup, i may reconsider.

This will happen too. Hopefully soon :)
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Re: Encouraging the bubbahood

2002-04-06 Thread Mike Ignatiev

actually, i was amazed at how good a reasonably priced MF rig can be. now,
besides a p6x7, i got myself a rolleicord tlr for well under $200, as a
rugged inexpensive travel camera giving me kick-ass pictures. for sheer
image quality per buck it's hard to beat. for non-professional use i find it
difficult to understand why people are paying kilo$ for high end 35mm slr
systems.

as a side effect of my plunge into MF, all of a sudden i found i no longer
care about who will come up with which digital camera anymore.
...although there's one cool thing i'd love to have in digital: uploading
pics on my home server via cellular uplink. if someone come up with this
setup, i may reconsider.

> see http://medfmt.8k.com/mf/budget.html for budget buy ideas,
> mf/value.html on best buys etc
>
> at the pro end, an article by Keppler in pop photo was surprised to find
> that the pentax 67 SLR kit was the cheapest street price rig among pro
> kits (nikon F5, Canon EOS, Hasselblad, Rolleiflex...). I chalk this up to
> pricing pro kits to what the market will bear ;-)
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Encouraging the bubbahood

2002-04-06 Thread Collin Brendemuehl

Subject: Re: Medium Format
Date: 6 Apr 2002 18:11:32 -0600
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Monaghan)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.35mm

thanks for kudos, y'all ;-)

see http://medfmt.8k.com/mf/budget.html for budget buy ideas,
mf/value.html on best buys etc

at the pro end, an article by Keppler in pop photo was surprised to find
that the pentax 67 SLR kit was the cheapest street price rig among pro
kits (nikon F5, Canon EOS, Hasselblad, Rolleiflex...). I chalk this up to
pricing pro kits to what the market will bear ;-)

see http://chucklau.freewebsites.com/KievPriceList.html for sample prices
on Kiev 60 6x6cm SLR kits ranging from under $200 up with dealer warranty,
new in box, including lens, filters, lens hood... ;-)

regards! bobm


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