Re: Extension Tubes for Closeup Photography

2001-11-28 Thread Brent Hutto

Thanks to everyone who enlightened me on their approaches to 
extention tube aperture calculations (both via the list and by private 
E-mail). There are a lot of ways to look at the question but they all 
converge to about the same answer -- in my case the f/2 lens 
becomes somewhere around f/4 with the extension tubes that take 
me close to 1:1 ratio.

I shot a few frames on Elite Chrome 200 slide film so we'll see how 
the calculation match up to reality in this particular case.
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Extension Tubes for Closeup Photography

2001-11-27 Thread Brent Hutto

I just got my Pentax Extension Tube Set B from KEH and have been 
playing around with them on my 50mm f/2 SMC-A and 135mm f/3.5 
SMC-M lenses. I can get to around 1/2 life size with the 135mm lens 
and have over a foot of working room between the front of the lens 
and the subject. I can get 1:1 life size by stacking the 26mm and 
19mm tubes on the 50mm lens. That gives me 3 inches between 
front element and subject which is about the minimum I'm 
comfortable with without worrying about nicking the lens. Of course, 
I can put the 12mm tube on there too and to about 1.2:1 as my 
absolute maximum magnification.

These tubes don't couple the aperture information into the camera. 
In fact, the camera can't stop them down so you just adjust the 
aperture ring like a purely manual setup. I want to use my (manual) 
flash bouncing off a white board to light my closeup subject. Is it 
pretty accurate to figure the effect f-stop as follows:

Original focal length: 50mm
Original f-ratio: 2.0
Original aperture: 50 / 2.0 = 25mm

Focal length with tubes: 50 + 25 + 19 = 94mm
F-ratio with tubes: 94 / 25 = f/3.8

and just round off to f/4 for figuring the amount of light I need?
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RE: Extension Tubes for Closeup Photography

2001-11-27 Thread J. C. O'Connell

using a camera with ttl flash is the easiest way to get good results
JCO

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 I just got my Pentax Extension Tube Set B from KEH and have been 
 playing around with them on my 50mm f/2 SMC-A and 135mm f/3.5 
 SMC-M lenses. I can get to around 1/2 life size with the 135mm lens 
 and have over a foot of working room between the front of the lens 
 and the subject. I can get 1:1 life size by stacking the 26mm and 
 19mm tubes on the 50mm lens. That gives me 3 inches between 
 front element and subject which is about the minimum I'm 
 comfortable with without worrying about nicking the lens. Of course, 
 I can put the 12mm tube on there too and to about 1.2:1 as my 
 absolute maximum magnification.
 
 These tubes don't couple the aperture information into the camera. 
 In fact, the camera can't stop them down so you just adjust the 
 aperture ring like a purely manual setup. I want to use my (manual) 
 flash bouncing off a white board to light my closeup subject. Is it 
 pretty accurate to figure the effect f-stop as follows:
 
 Original focal length: 50mm
 Original f-ratio: 2.0
 Original aperture: 50 / 2.0 = 25mm
 
 Focal length with tubes: 50 + 25 + 19 = 94mm
 F-ratio with tubes: 94 / 25 = f/3.8
 
 and just round off to f/4 for figuring the amount of light I need?
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Re: Extension Tubes for Closeup Photography

2001-11-27 Thread William Robb

I didn't follow your math too closely, but I will give you the
correct formulae for figuring the extension factor as applied to
LF cameras.
First, compute the image magnification (M) by dividing the lens
to subject distance into the lens to film distance, measuring
from the lens aperture position (I use the front of the aperture
ring).
The bellows (exposure factor) can then be calculated with the
following formula:
(M+1)²= the exposure factor.

You will find that you need to do the math once and keep a chart
of exposure factors with the lens/ extension tube combinations
you have on hand that you use.
In the field, I carry a small collapsible ruler and a calculator
for figuring bellows extension.
William Robb
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Subject: Extension Tubes for Closeup Photography


 I just got my Pentax Extension Tube Set B from KEH and have
been
 playing around with them on my 50mm f/2 SMC-A and 135mm f/3.5
 SMC-M lenses. I can get to around 1/2 life size with the 135mm
lens
 and have over a foot of working room between the front of the
lens
 and the subject. I can get 1:1 life size by stacking the 26mm
and
 19mm tubes on the 50mm lens. That gives me 3 inches between
 front element and subject which is about the minimum I'm
 comfortable with without worrying about nicking the lens. Of
course,
 I can put the 12mm tube on there too and to about 1.2:1 as my
 absolute maximum magnification.

 These tubes don't couple the aperture information into the
camera.
 In fact, the camera can't stop them down so you just adjust
the
 aperture ring like a purely manual setup. I want to use my
(manual)
 flash bouncing off a white board to light my closeup subject.
Is it
 pretty accurate to figure the effect f-stop as follows:

 Original focal length: 50mm
 Original f-ratio: 2.0
 Original aperture: 50 / 2.0 = 25mm

 Focal length with tubes: 50 + 25 + 19 = 94mm
 F-ratio with tubes: 94 / 25 = f/3.8

 and just round off to f/4 for figuring the amount of light I
need?
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