Re: FA77 - going out of production?
Defenitely very sad we can't have K-serie lens with those little contacts making them act like A-serie. A pity ! 2007/2/12, Peter Lacus [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Thibouille, Unsharp indeed but is very usable on my KX with BW like TriX if stopped down a bit. Even wide open it has provided quite nice pics. I didn't have time to test extensively on my D and even less so on my K10D. I will if possible. sharpness is rather subjective quality and personally I will gladly sacrifice some sharpness for better overall rendering. For example my A50/1.4 delivers sharper images (at least at wider apertures) than my M50/1.4 yet I much prefer M50/1.4 for its rendering (and partially also for the better focusing feel and build quality). Basically what most people perceive as sharpness is IMHO just higher local contrast. And since everything comes at a price, increasing the sharpness you effectively lose smooth tonal gradations. The utility of this lens is that on a K-line body it gives exactly in the viewfinder the same image as your eyes so it is very easy to use: one eye in the viewfinder, the other one checking what's happening around. the same apply to a combination of a MX and M50/1.4 and needless to say, I enjoy it immensely. Cheers, Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA77 - going out of production?
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007, Peter Lacus wrote: It is not typical of the era, I am afraid. may I ask you why? It has nice overall rendition, but is fairly unsharp in wide apertures. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA77 - going out of production?
Unsharp indeed but is very usable on my KX with BW like TriX if stopped down a bit. Even wide open it has provided quite nice pics. I didn't have time to test extensively on my D and even less so on my K10D. I will if possible. The utility of this lens is that on a K-line body it gives exactly in the viewfinder the same image as your eyes so it is very easy to use: one eye in the viewfinder, the other one checking what's happening around. 2007/2/12, Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, 11 Feb 2007, Peter Lacus wrote: It is not typical of the era, I am afraid. may I ask you why? It has nice overall rendition, but is fairly unsharp in wide apertures. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA77 - going out of production?
Hi Thibouille, Unsharp indeed but is very usable on my KX with BW like TriX if stopped down a bit. Even wide open it has provided quite nice pics. I didn't have time to test extensively on my D and even less so on my K10D. I will if possible. sharpness is rather subjective quality and personally I will gladly sacrifice some sharpness for better overall rendering. For example my A50/1.4 delivers sharper images (at least at wider apertures) than my M50/1.4 yet I much prefer M50/1.4 for its rendering (and partially also for the better focusing feel and build quality). Basically what most people perceive as sharpness is IMHO just higher local contrast. And since everything comes at a price, increasing the sharpness you effectively lose smooth tonal gradations. The utility of this lens is that on a K-line body it gives exactly in the viewfinder the same image as your eyes so it is very easy to use: one eye in the viewfinder, the other one checking what's happening around. the same apply to a combination of a MX and M50/1.4 and needless to say, I enjoy it immensely. Cheers, Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA77 - going out of production?
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007, Peter Lacus wrote: yep, when I bought my istDs last month I acquired also one of those. It's my first lens from the legendary K-series. Since my istDs familiarization phase is over now, it's a good time to give it a try... It is not typical of the era, I am afraid. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA77 - going out of production?
Kostas, yep, when I bought my istDs last month I acquired also one of those. It's my first lens from the legendary K-series. Since my istDs familiarization phase is over now, it's a good time to give it a try... It is not typical of the era, I am afraid. may I ask you why? Cheers, Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA77 - going out of production?
Hi Kostas, I've heard less credible rumors on the DA55, but here's hoping it's an f/2 or faster too! That should be extremely straightforward: http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/lenses/primes/normal/K55f1.8.html yep, when I bought my istDs last month I acquired also one of those. It's my first lens from the legendary K-series. Since my istDs familiarization phase is over now, it's a good time to give it a try... Cheers, Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA77 - going out of production?
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I've heard less credible rumors on the DA55, but here's hoping it's an f/2 or faster too! That should be extremely straightforward: http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/lenses/primes/normal/K55f1.8.html Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA77 - going out of production?
On 2/7/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's time Pentax balanced out their lineup and released a DFA* 200mm f4 Macro, to replace the FA* version they boneheadedly discontinued before I could afford it :-) I know there aren't a lot of Sigma fans on this list, but Sigma just released a 150mm macro. Don't know if it's avaiable for Pentax though. Amita -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 2/8/07, Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/7/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's time Pentax balanced out their lineup and released a DFA* 200mm f4 Macro, to replace the FA* version they boneheadedly discontinued before I could afford it :-) I know there aren't a lot of Sigma fans on this list, but Sigma just released a 150mm macro. Don't know if it's avaiable for Pentax though. I just checked Canon, Nikon, Sigma 4/3 (coming soon) mount only. Cheers, Dave (Sigma anti-fan :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA77 - going out of production?
Humm. Clitch at my end and part of my reply did not take. I also got the feeling that it would take longer than 2 weeks, from the tone of the email. Henrys had several other orders, so i added my order to those, thinking it might help speed things up, if there were a few people wanting the lens. Its been two months, maybe i'll call and see whats going on. Maybe i'll look at the DA 70 as an alternative, but i'll hold out for the 77 ab bit longer. Dave On 2/7/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mike. I checked with Joe Todd of Camera Canada a while back, and receieved a reply that one would have to be ordered and it would take two weeks. That was back in November. I placed my order with Henrys here just after that conversation On 2/7/07, Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I've put both of my FA Limiteds (77 and 43) on the auction block. I figure I can make some money on at least the 77 (especially since it's black... those seem to be popular), and probably make a bit on the 43. I'm finally deciding that I'm not shooting film often enough (I've got a roll in each of my film bodies that's been there for months), and the likelihood of that increasing is quite slim. I don't think I've ever actually used my FA77 on my film bodies!! :) So I was checking Canadian online shops for price of DA primes (70, mostly), and I see on the Camera Canada website that Pentax Canada only has 1 FA77 left in stock. I haven't heard any word about the lens going out of production, but I know that Dave Brooks has been waiting (impatiently?) for his to arrive for months now... http://www.cameracanada.com/eNet-cart/product.asp?pid=27970 Immediately, i feel reservations about selling my FA77 - but as I've been watching GDG's musings about equipment, I'm aware that it's only equipment. I just wonder if it's not wiser to hold onto the lens and sell it later! :) -- Cheers, [EMAIL PROTECTED] MichaelHamilton.ca -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com Ontario Canada -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA77 - going out of production?
Hi Mike. I checked with Joe Todd of Camera Canada a while back, and receieved a reply that one would have to be ordered and it would take two weeks. That was back in November. I placed my order with Henrys here just after that conversation On 2/7/07, Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I've put both of my FA Limiteds (77 and 43) on the auction block. I figure I can make some money on at least the 77 (especially since it's black... those seem to be popular), and probably make a bit on the 43. I'm finally deciding that I'm not shooting film often enough (I've got a roll in each of my film bodies that's been there for months), and the likelihood of that increasing is quite slim. I don't think I've ever actually used my FA77 on my film bodies!! :) So I was checking Canadian online shops for price of DA primes (70, mostly), and I see on the Camera Canada website that Pentax Canada only has 1 FA77 left in stock. I haven't heard any word about the lens going out of production, but I know that Dave Brooks has been waiting (impatiently?) for his to arrive for months now... http://www.cameracanada.com/eNet-cart/product.asp?pid=27970 Immediately, i feel reservations about selling my FA77 - but as I've been watching GDG's musings about equipment, I'm aware that it's only equipment. I just wonder if it's not wiser to hold onto the lens and sell it later! :) -- Cheers, [EMAIL PROTECTED] MichaelHamilton.ca -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA77 - going out of production?
On 2/07/07 8:10 AM, David J Brooks, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also got the feeling that it would take longer than 2 weeks, from the tone of the email. Not to scare anybody, but there have been some reports of clouding of this lens (perhaps I saw it here too), and Pentax said that they would look into it. That was about one to one and a half months ago or so IIRC. That might be the reason for the delay, but nothing more than a speculation. If they would be reviewing anything, I would suppose that the production might have been interrupted temporarily. 35mm Limited lenses have been selling very well despite of their price, and I do not believe Pentax would discontinue them. If anything, while they are switching their lens line to non-lead and DA's, these 3 Limited sisters should be helping their lens sales. Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA77 - going out of production?
Mike, The Camera Canada site has been saying that (only one 77) for a couple of months now. I'd take it with a grain of salt. dk On 2/7/07, Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I've put both of my FA Limiteds (77 and 43) on the auction block. I figure I can make some money on at least the 77 (especially since it's black... those seem to be popular), and probably make a bit on the 43. I'm finally deciding that I'm not shooting film often enough (I've got a roll in each of my film bodies that's been there for months), and the likelihood of that increasing is quite slim. I don't think I've ever actually used my FA77 on my film bodies!! :) So I was checking Canadian online shops for price of DA primes (70, mostly), and I see on the Camera Canada website that Pentax Canada only has 1 FA77 left in stock. I haven't heard any word about the lens going out of production, but I know that Dave Brooks has been waiting (impatiently?) for his to arrive for months now... http://www.cameracanada.com/eNet-cart/product.asp?pid=27970 Immediately, i feel reservations about selling my FA77 - but as I've been watching GDG's musings about equipment, I'm aware that it's only equipment. I just wonder if it's not wiser to hold onto the lens and sell it later! :) -- Cheers, [EMAIL PROTECTED] MichaelHamilton.ca -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA77 - going out of production?
They also have been listing an istD for about 2 years. When i inquired about it, the reply was they would need to contact suppliers, but should be able to get one. Dave On 2/7/07, Dave Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike, The Camera Canada site has been saying that (only one 77) for a couple of months now. I'd take it with a grain of salt. dk On 2/7/07, Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I've put both of my FA Limiteds (77 and 43) on the auction block. I figure I can make some money on at least the 77 (especially since it's black... those seem to be popular), and probably make a bit on the 43. I'm finally deciding that I'm not shooting film often enough (I've got a roll in each of my film bodies that's been there for months), and the likelihood of that increasing is quite slim. I don't think I've ever actually used my FA77 on my film bodies!! :) So I was checking Canadian online shops for price of DA primes (70, mostly), and I see on the Camera Canada website that Pentax Canada only has 1 FA77 left in stock. I haven't heard any word about the lens going out of production, but I know that Dave Brooks has been waiting (impatiently?) for his to arrive for months now... http://www.cameracanada.com/eNet-cart/product.asp?pid=27970 Immediately, i feel reservations about selling my FA77 - but as I've been watching GDG's musings about equipment, I'm aware that it's only equipment. I just wonder if it's not wiser to hold onto the lens and sell it later! :) -- Cheers, [EMAIL PROTECTED] MichaelHamilton.ca -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA77 - going out of production?
I don't understand the fascination with the FA77. They're good lenses, but if you're going to be using a DSLR I feel the DA70 is a better choice. Having worked with both, I prefer the DA70. The FA43 has no direct equivalent yet for the DSLRs, closest thing for the DSLR format is the FA28/2.8 AL. I wish they'd make a DA28/2 Limited. I was tempted by the FA43 for a bit as I like the size and finish of the lens, but the 40-43mm focal length just seems a bit too 'in between'. It's a little too long for a normal and a little too short for a portrait tele. I was happy to find an FA28 ... it proves a better choice and left money in the budget for a DA50-200. In the end, it's all just equipment. I'm extremely happy with the Pentax kit I've assembled: everything I'm now using suits my needs very well and performs more than satisfactorily. My goal now is to exploit what it can do to best advantage. To which end I really need to be cracking today and tomorrow as I have submission deadlines to meet... G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA77 - going out of production?
- Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: Re: FA77 - going out of production? I don't understand the fascination with the FA77. They're good lenses, but if you're going to be using a DSLR I feel the DA70 is a better choice. Having worked with both, I prefer the DA70. The 77 is a terrific lens, and is well known. The DA70 is still an unknown quantity for most, I think. I expect I will end up with a 70 at some point, but I don't think I'll be letting my 77 go anytime soon either. The FA43 has no direct equivalent yet for the DSLRs, closest thing for the DSLR format is the FA28/2.8 AL. I wish they'd make a DA28/2 Limited. You and the DA28/2 is starting to sound like JCO and the aperture simulator. G Except you sound like an educated person. The DA40/2.8 is a nice little lens, though it is really too slow and too small. They should really have gone for an f/2ish aperture instead. It would have made the lens more functional. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA77 - going out of production?
On 2/7/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The DA40/2.8 is a nice little lens, though it is really too slow and too small. They should really have gone for an f/2ish aperture instead. It would have made the lens more functional. There's a 35mm DA on the lens road map. Perhaps this is our fast normal? There's also a DA 55. I'm hoping these are replacements for the FA50 and FA85. I've smoked crack before, though. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA77 - going out of production?
I had asked BH to alert me when they had a black FA 77 in stock, but I'm now leaning toward the DA 70 as well. Your experience is quite convincing. I had been planning to sell my K 85/1.8 to finance this lens, but now I'm torn. The FOV difference between the 70 and the 85 may warrant keeping the latter, which is a very fine lens. Paul -- Original message -- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't understand the fascination with the FA77. They're good lenses, but if you're going to be using a DSLR I feel the DA70 is a better choice. Having worked with both, I prefer the DA70. The FA43 has no direct equivalent yet for the DSLRs, closest thing for the DSLR format is the FA28/2.8 AL. I wish they'd make a DA28/2 Limited. I was tempted by the FA43 for a bit as I like the size and finish of the lens, but the 40-43mm focal length just seems a bit too 'in between'. It's a little too long for a normal and a little too short for a portrait tele. I was happy to find an FA28 ... it proves a better choice and left money in the budget for a DA50-200. In the end, it's all just equipment. I'm extremely happy with the Pentax kit I've assembled: everything I'm now using suits my needs very well and performs more than satisfactorily. My goal now is to exploit what it can do to best advantage. To which end I really need to be cracking today and tomorrow as I have submission deadlines to meet... G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA77 - going out of production?
On Feb 7, 2007, at 8:10 AM, William Robb wrote: You and the DA28/2 is starting to sound like J C O and the aperture simulator. G Except you sound like an educated person. LOL ... Well, there is *some* hope that Pentax will address making a DA28/2 Limited in the future. ;-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA77 - going out of production?
On Feb 7, 2007, at 8:24 AM, Scott Loveless wrote: The DA40/2.8 is a nice little lens, though it is really too slow and too small. They should really have gone for an f/2ish aperture instead. It would have made the lens more functional. There's a 35mm DA on the lens road map. Perhaps this is our fast normal? There's also a DA 55. I'm hoping these are replacements for the FA50 and FA85. I've smoked crack before, though. Rumor from a fairly credible source has it that the DA35 will be an f/ 2 lens; I would be happy if they just took the FA35/2 AL optics and updated the lens mount. Faster than that probably gets too bulky for my taste. I've heard less credible rumors on the DA55, but here's hoping it's an f/2 or faster too! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA77 - going out of production?
I haven't owned either of the two, but the fact that the FA77 is faster then the DA70 has been a big argument for me. One of the reasons I am considering buying an FA77 or one of the 85's is that in addition to being a nice portrait lens on digital, it can be used as a FAST short-tele. DA70, on the other hand, has the advantage of quick-shift focus. In the ideal world (tm), where all physics law are still present, thus, defining physical sizes of the lenses, I would want to have the following lenses for a 1.5x-crop DSLR (all with quick shift focus): 12-50mm - f/~2.8-3.2|4 18|20-60|80mm - f/2.8 50mm - f/1.4 (I'd keep the FA but would add the quick-shift focus) 100mm - f/1.7-2.0 (+ 1:1 macro) 50|70|100-300mm f/4 or f/2.8-4 200 or 300 f/2.8 maybe something like 10-17, which I still haven't tried, - for fun. (unlike majority on this list, I don't do as much wide-angle, so I prefer a zoom on the wide-angle side.. Well, maybe 12|14 f/2.8 would be hand as well.) Igor From: Godfrey DiGiorgi I don't understand the fascination with the FA77. They're good lenses, but if you're going to be using a DSLR I feel the DA70 is a better choice. Having worked with both, I prefer the DA70. The FA43 has no direct equivalent yet for the DSLRs, closest thing for the DSLR format is the FA28/2.8 AL. I wish they'd make a DA28/2 Limited. I was tempted by the FA43 for a bit as I like the size and finish of the lens, but the 40-43mm focal length just seems a bit too 'in between'. It's a little too long for a normal and a little too short for a portrait tele. I was happy to find an FA28 ... it proves a better choice and left money in the budget for a DA50-200. In the end, it's all just equipment. I'm extremely happy with the Pentax kit I've assembled: everything I'm now using suits my needs very well and performs more than satisfactorily. My goal now is to exploit what it can do to best advantage. To which end I really need to be cracking today and tomorrow as I have submission deadlines to meet... G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA77 - going out of production?
On Feb 7, 2007, at 1:30 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: I haven't owned either of the two, but the fact that the FA77 is faster then the DA70 has been a big argument for me. One of the reasons I am considering buying an FA77 or one of the 85's is that in addition to being a nice portrait lens on digital, it can be used as a FAST short-tele. DA70, on the other hand, has the advantage of quick-shift focus. ... The difference in maximum aperture between the two lenses is about two-thirds of a stop. At maximum aperture, and including the focal length difference, that amounts to a total of 2.5 inches difference in acceptably sharp focus zone wide open at 10 foot distance. Quickshift is worth much more to me than those small differences. It's a judgement call, certainly, but I am generally exposing at f/4 at least anyway, even for portraits, to obtain enough DoF. :-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA77 - going out of production?
Igor Roshchin wrote: I haven't owned either of the two, but the fact that the FA77 is faster then the DA70 has been a big argument for me. One of the reasons I am considering buying an FA77 or one of the 85's is that in addition to being a nice portrait lens on digital, it can be used as a FAST short-tele. DA70, on the other hand, has the advantage of quick-shift focus. I'm with you. I like the quick-shift focus, but I like speed better :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA77 - going out of production?
At 02:22 AM 8/02/2007, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Feb 7, 2007, at 8:10 AM, William Robb wrote: You and the DA28/2 is starting to sound like J C O and the aperture simulator. G Except you sound like an educated person. LOL ... Well, there is *some* hope that Pentax will address making a DA28/2 Limited in the future. ;-) You wide angle shooters have had enough new toys :-) It's time Pentax balanced out their lineup and released a DFA* 200mm f4 Macro, to replace the FA* version they boneheadedly discontinued before I could afford it :-) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
FA77 - going out of production?
Well, I've put both of my FA Limiteds (77 and 43) on the auction block. I figure I can make some money on at least the 77 (especially since it's black... those seem to be popular), and probably make a bit on the 43. I'm finally deciding that I'm not shooting film often enough (I've got a roll in each of my film bodies that's been there for months), and the likelihood of that increasing is quite slim. I don't think I've ever actually used my FA77 on my film bodies!! :) So I was checking Canadian online shops for price of DA primes (70, mostly), and I see on the Camera Canada website that Pentax Canada only has 1 FA77 left in stock. I haven't heard any word about the lens going out of production, but I know that Dave Brooks has been waiting (impatiently?) for his to arrive for months now... http://www.cameracanada.com/eNet-cart/product.asp?pid=27970 Immediately, i feel reservations about selling my FA77 - but as I've been watching GDG's musings about equipment, I'm aware that it's only equipment. I just wonder if it's not wiser to hold onto the lens and sell it later! :) -- Cheers, [EMAIL PROTECTED] MichaelHamilton.ca -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
